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  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    God just called, we were discussing gays and he just wouldnt stop laughing about how they walk funny...

    To be honest tho i have trouble listening to his stupid overly masculine voice....
    :p
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    El_Kabong wrote:
    no doubt, you're a big bear man, w/ big teeth and fuckin claws!!!!!

    no, but im not going to demean my contributions to the cycle of life as nothing more than fluid contributor to the glorious wonderful amazing creators that are women. the counterpart to white guilt is male guilt. and i dont feel guilty.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    ForestBrain wrote:
    ^ :: claps ::
    Good answer!

    However, the only thing I would like to add is that people who believe in God aren't supposed to shove things down peoples' throats, however, if the question arises, it needs to be answered.
    To a Christian (a real one anyway), it's a kind warning out of care for somebody (yes, that is what it is, even though other people view it as being self-righteous). I personally keep it to myself, and I only asked this question because this is a message board made for discussing things. Everybody chooses their own path, and as long as it does not harm anybody else, I don't care what they do. I think it's offensive some of the stuff that is said about God, but like fury said, just because retribution isn't immediate, doesn't mean it's not going to happen.
    So, some people don't believe in God, fine, that's their choice, but it doesn't give them the right to say blasphemous things about him, just like me thinking homosexuality is a sin doesn't give me the right to say nasty things about them. And I haven't.

    how would the people who don't believe in god know what is blasphemous? if you don't believe in god, isnt simply speaking that out loud blasphemous to you?
  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    vmfury wrote:
    There are people who have chosen to live a gay lifestyle, HOWEVER, I strongly feel they were born with those tendencies. They didn't choose to be gay, they chose to be true to themselves and not hide who they are. This I respect very much. I certainly don't look at them as sinners and it isn't my place to do so.

    so what you're saying is they willingly chose to live a gay lifestyle to go against the word of God. whether YOU look at them as sinners or not, it is against God's word, therefore it is a sin because of God's word. if you're saying no, then you don't believe in God's word. God's word is already their judge. so YOU respect that very much, huh...someone who willingly goes against God's word.

    The bottom line is that people should mind their own business, stick to their own beliefs, worry about what their own agenda is, and stop preaching right and wrong as if they have the authority to do so.

    if Moses, David, Jesus, Peter, and Paul all minded their own business, stuck to their own beliefs, worried about their own agenda, and didn't preach right and wrong, we wouldn't have the Bible and Christianity spread around the world. many prophets and apostles were killed in the name of God for YOU to even have the knowledge you do about Him. i guess they should've just minded their own business.
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  • Dustin51
    Dustin51 Posts: 222
    In my opinion when it comes to comedy nothing is off limits.

    Now when it comes to society deeming what's acceptable and what's not I don't know.

    I will say this though we've had freedom of Religion for about oh...a little over 230 years now while Gays still fight for equality.
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  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    Is it ok to take the piss if someones got a little dick?
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    PJammin' wrote:
    if Moses, David, Jesus, Peter, and Paul all minded their own business, stuck to their own beliefs, worried about their own agenda, and didn't preach right and wrong, we wouldn't have the Bible and Christianity spread around the world. many prophets and apostles were killed in the name of God for YOU to even have the knowledge you do about Him. i guess they should've just minded their own business.

    man... that's a pleasant dream...

    the people in the heaven's gate cult died for their beliefs too. that mean their beliefs should be gospel?
  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    PJammin' wrote:
    so what you're saying is they willingly chose to live a gay lifestyle to go against the word of God. whether YOU look at them as sinners or not, it is against God's word, therefore it is a sin because of God's word. if you're saying no, then you don't believe in God's word. God's word is already their judge. so YOU respect that very much, huh...someone who willingly goes against God's word.




    if Moses, David, Jesus, Peter, and Paul all minded their own business, stuck to their own beliefs, worried about their own agenda, and didn't preach right and wrong, we wouldn't have the Bible and Christianity spread around the world. many prophets and apostles were killed in the name of God for YOU to even have the knowledge you do about Him. i guess they should've just minded their own business.

    Hehe. Your God is funny. I like Jobu better because Jesus Christ cannot hit a curveball. I agree about Peter and Paul not minding their own business -- if they would have we never would have had the hit "If I Had a Hammer"
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  • scw156
    scw156 Posts: 442
    PJammin' wrote:
    so what you're saying is they willingly chose to live a gay lifestyle to go against the word of God. whether YOU look at them as sinners or not, it is against God's word, therefore it is a sin because of God's word. if you're saying no, then you don't believe in God's word. God's word is already their judge. so YOU respect that very much, huh...someone who willingly goes against God's word.




    if Moses, David, Jesus, Peter, and Paul all minded their own business, stuck to their own beliefs, worried about their own agenda, and didn't preach right and wrong, we wouldn't have the Bible and Christianity spread around the world. many prophets and apostles were killed in the name of God for YOU to even have the knowledge you do about Him. i guess they should've just minded their own business.

    that's why I find certain Catholic people funny... the bible/their belief etc. doubles back on itself and contradicts itself alot. so when they start discussions it seems like they talk in circles or bring up points that only contradict a previous point that was made.


    pretty much the only thing i "like" about religions is to "be nice" to everyone...
    except most of them preach that and don't follow it anyway.
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  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    soulsinging wrote:
    the people in the heaven's gate cult died for their beliefs too. that mean their beliefs should be gospel?

    their beliefs were gospel to them, and maybe there are still people who believe in the heaven's gate. just like there is a gospel of buddha. just like the koran is gospel to the muslims. just like the bible is gospel to christians. there are many gospels, but only ONE TRUE gospel. souls are at stake so people best be confident in what they decide to follow.
    I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    PJammin' wrote:
    their beliefs were gospel to them, and maybe there are still people who believe in the heaven's gate. just like there is a gospel of buddha. just like the koran is gospel to the muslims. just like the bible is gospel to christians. there are many gospels, but only ONE TRUE gospel. souls are at stake so people best be confident in what they decide to follow.

    how do you know yours is the one true gospel? im guessing muslims would say the koran is the one true gospel. im guessing buddhists say the buddha's gospel is the one true gospel. if they're both wrong, isn't it possible you are too?
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    hippiemom wrote:
    I don't mock homosexuals because there's nothing terribly funny about homosexuality.

    I don't mock god because I don't believe he exists, at least not the personal god envisioned by most religions.

    I don't mock people of faith who mind their own business and aren't running around hypocritically telling everyone else how to live.

    I do occasionally mock human-created religious doctrine when I find it amusing, and I never pass up an opportunity to mock religious nut-jobs like Fred Phelps or Pat Robertson, or Osama, or pretty much any fundamentalist.
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  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    scw156 wrote:
    that's why I find certain Catholic people funny... the bible/their belief etc. doubles back on itself and contradicts itself alot. so when they start discussions it seems like they talk in circles or bring up points that only contradict a previous point that was made.


    pretty much the only thing i "like" about religions is to "be nice" to everyone...
    except most of them preach that and don't follow it anyway.

    there are man-made views and traditions which have NOTHING to do with God's word. it was going on during the time of Christ and it still goes on today.
    I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
  • rigneyclan
    rigneyclan Posts: 289
    ForestBrain wrote:
    Why is it okay for people to mock God and religion, but it's not okay to mock homosexuals?
    I just wondered because I see religion mocked constantly, yet somebody says something about a gay person, and people flip out.

    because people can't help being homosexual. it's not their decision.
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  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    soulsinging wrote:
    how do you know yours is the one true gospel? im guessing muslims would say the koran is the one true gospel. im guessing buddhists say the buddha's gospel is the one true gospel. if they're both wrong, isn't it possible you are too?

    sure, it's possible to other people that i could be wrong. i'm confident that i'm right. if you search for the truth you'll find it. also, i'm not the type of person who tries to disprove everything. if it makes sense, it makes sense. it makes sense to me that there are four different accounts of Jesus performing miracles and also rising from the dead. in the old testament there are prophecies of his coming and his crucifixion, down to the soldiers casting lots for his clothing. the apostle paul used to crucify jesus and the church, even witnessing the death of stephen for being a follower of Christ. why all of a sudden did he change his ways and start following Christ? paul became one of the most important apostles spreading the word of Christ to the gentiles. there must be an IMPORTANT reason why he changed his views and then ended up suffering persecution himself for it. i'm not here to shove ANYTHING down anyone's throat. each person has a choice to seek it out and decide for themselves. i'm just here to add to this discussion.
    I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    PJammin' wrote:
    sure, it's possible to other people that i could be wrong. i'm confident that i'm right. if you search for the truth you'll find it. also, i'm not the type of person who tries to disprove everything. if it makes sense, it makes sense. it makes sense to me that there are four different accounts of Jesus performing miracles and also rising from the dead. in the old testament there are prophecies of his coming and his crucifixion, down to the soldiers casting lots for his clothing. the apostle paul used to crucify jesus and the church, even witnessing the death of stephen for being a follower of Christ. why all of a sudden did he change his ways and start following Christ? paul became one of the most important apostles spreading the word of Christ to the gentiles. there must be an IMPORTANT reason why he changed his views and then ended up suffering persecution himself for it. i'm not here to shove ANYTHING down anyone's throat. each person has a choice to seek it out and decide for themselves. i'm just here to add to this discussion.

    who knows? why was i a drug addict and suddenly one day i just stopped? in any case, knock yourself out. weird things happen all the time in this world. the bible and jesus have no stranglehold on miracles. they just got theirs more widely published.
  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    soulsinging wrote:
    who knows? why was i a drug addict and suddenly one day i just stopped? in any case, knock yourself out. weird things happen all the time in this world. the bible and jesus have no stranglehold on miracles. they just got theirs more widely published.

    if that's how you feel, that's how you feel. anyway, glad you were able to kick your drug addiction.
    I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    PJammin' wrote:
    if Moses, David, Jesus, Peter, and Paul all minded their own business, stuck to their own beliefs, worried about their own agenda, and didn't preach right and wrong, we wouldn't have the Bible and Christianity spread around the world. many prophets and apostles were killed in the name of God for YOU to even have the knowledge you do about Him. i guess they should've just minded their own business.
    *sigh*

    if only
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJammin' wrote:
    sure, it's possible to other people that i could be wrong. i'm confident that i'm right. if you search for the truth you'll find it. also, i'm not the type of person who tries to disprove everything. if it makes sense, it makes sense. it makes sense to me that there are four different accounts of Jesus performing miracles and also rising from the dead. in the old testament there are prophecies of his coming and his crucifixion, down to the soldiers casting lots for his clothing. the apostle paul used to crucify jesus and the church, even witnessing the death of stephen for being a follower of Christ. why all of a sudden did he change his ways and start following Christ? paul became one of the most important apostles spreading the word of Christ to the gentiles. there must be an IMPORTANT reason why he changed his views and then ended up suffering persecution himself for it. i'm not here to shove ANYTHING down anyone's throat. each person has a choice to seek it out and decide for themselves. i'm just here to add to this discussion.

    truth is subjective. one person's truth is another person's fallacy. paul's conviction is just like your conviction which is possibly not like anyone else's. you believe with every fibre of your being that jesus is the son of God and that you shall be saved. me, i don't believe a word of the bible. though i do believe jesus was a real person. the premise that he was divine sways me not in the least. every day we see examples of sects where the members truly belive in what their 'messiah' is preaching. and they themselves will be saved. society finds these people blasphemous when they preach their doctrine, much like the jews found jesus. and yes you are correct, each person does have a choice to seek out for themselves their individual spirituality, whether or not that means finding it within organised religion is something i nor you can answer. nor should it be expected that they will find it within the confines of organised religion.
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  • boxwine_in_hell
    boxwine_in_hell Posts: 1,263
    ForestBrain wrote:
    Why is it okay for people to mock God and religion, but it's not okay to mock homosexuals?
    I just wondered because I see religion mocked constantly, yet somebody says something about a gay person, and people flip out.

    How about a religious homosexual?.....let the mocking begin.
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