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  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    audome25 wrote:
    what do you thnk an airplane is made out of? fucking concrete? its aluminium. I woudl love to see the picture of what you think the hole should look like.

    I would like to see debris around the Pentagon....that has always been my biggest question....
  • monkey spanker
    monkey spanker Posts: 283
    "I would like to see debris around the Pentagon....that has always been my biggest question...."

    fair question. but wouldn't the debris go INTO the pentagon?
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    audome25 wrote:
    what do you thnk an airplane is made out of? fucking concrete? its aluminium. I woudl love to see the picture of what you think the hole should look like.

    Aside from the BS of the Pentagon being made of some unknown substance to mankind. Looked like the entire (wings and all) plane was seen entering one of the towers. You know................what an airplane looks like. Big body with really big wings and very, very, heavy engines that would make a very, very, big impact. Of course those engines are made of aluminum to go with the plane made of balsa wood.
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  • monkey spanker
    monkey spanker Posts: 283
    i am not saying this link is verifible evidence, but it is interesting. i just found it with a google search.

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    monkey spanker wrote:
    "I would like to see debris around the Pentagon....that has always been my biggest question...."

    fair question. but wouldn't the debris go INTO the pentagon?

    it may but couldn't an explosion force debris all over including away from the blast??
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  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    monkey spanker wrote:
    "I would like to see debris around the Pentagon....that has always been my biggest question...."

    fair question. but wouldn't the debris go INTO the pentagon?

    I dunno...lol...however for the plane to hit the Pentagon that low...and there is no dispute on where the hole is located; that the plane would have undoubtly hit the ground before hand...correct?

    Therefore I think there should be some debris....
  • monkey spanker
    monkey spanker Posts: 283
    check out the link, there is debris.
  • audome25
    audome25 Posts: 163
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    I dunno...lol...however for the plane to hit the Pentagon that low...and there is no dispute on where the hole is located; that the plane would have undoubtly hit the ground before hand...correct?

    Therefore I think there should be some debris....

    yes, it should have and did hit the ground, and like the post above citing the structural enginners that were there, there wa wreckage.
  • audome25
    audome25 Posts: 163
    even flow? wrote:
    Aside from the BS of the Pentagon being made of some unknown substance to mankind. Looked like the entire (wings and all) plane was seen entering one of the towers. You know................what an airplane looks like. Big body with really big wings and very, very, heavy engines that would make a very, very, big impact. Of course those engines are made of aluminum to go with the plane made of balsa wood.


    so aluminum hitting concrete would make an airplane shaped hole? As opposed to:

    hy wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."

    almost the entire wing is full of fuel also.
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    audome25 wrote:
    yes, it should have and did hit the ground, and like the post above citing the structural enginners that were there, there wa wreckage.

    I have not seen any pictures showing wreckage...is there a pciture that shows plane debris that I can see please....
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    even flow? wrote:
    Aside from the BS of the Pentagon being made of some unknown substance to mankind. Looked like the entire (wings and all) plane was seen entering one of the towers. You know................what an airplane looks like. Big body with really big wings and very, very, heavy engines that would make a very, very, big impact. Of course those engines are made of aluminum to go with the plane made of balsa wood.

    Have you ever seen what the impact from a bird does to a plane?
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    audome25 wrote:
    so aluminum hitting concrete would make an airplane shaped hole? As opposed to:

    hy wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."

    almost the entire wing is full of fuel also.

    So where are they??? Didn't touch the ground? Didn't go through the building? Nary nicked a power poll? Sorry, I don't but the American story!
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  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Some say the U.S. government died with Kennedy.

    this is really interesting. can you please explain. :)
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    zstillings wrote:
    Have you ever seen what the impact from a bird does to a plane?


    Which has what to do with a huge plane hitting a building at forty of so feet off of the ground?
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    even flow? wrote:
    Which has what to do with a huge plane hitting a building at forty of so feet off of the ground?

    You made the comment about the balsa wood plane. It helps to explain the impact of the building on the plane and the reason that there was not a cartoon cutout of an airplane left in the side of the building like Wile E. Coyote used to leave in the mountain.
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Please people...biggest event in my life and still no links to pictures that show plane debris on the lawn......still waiting any pics would appreciated....
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    zstillings wrote:
    You made the comment about the balsa wood plane. It helps to explain the impact of the building on the plane and the reason that there was not a cartoon cutout of an airplane left in the side of the building like Wile E. Coyote used to leave in the mountain.

    Like anyone expected a cartoon cut out. There should have been something larger than the hole that was there, especially considering how the planes went into the towers leaving huge gaping holes.
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  • audome25
    audome25 Posts: 163
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Like anyone expected a cartoon cut out. There should have been something larger than the hole that was there, especially considering how the planes went into the towers leaving huge gaping holes.


    the pentagon and the twin towers exteriors were not made out of the same substance. the twin towers planes were also going faster.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    Please people...biggest event in my life and still no links to pictures that show plane debris on the lawn......still waiting any pics would appreciated....

    There was one up the thread a little bit.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Like anyone expected a cartoon cut out. There should have been something larger than the hole that was there, especially considering how the planes went into the towers leaving huge gaping holes.

    This is easily explained. If you throw a baseball at a glass window it's going to leave a bigger hole than if you throw it at a wall.

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