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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    810wmb wrote:
    you have proof of that?

    prove otherwise


    you dont think these clowns wouldnt be mentioning something like that every 2 secodns if they stopped an attack with a dirty bomb?

    you guys will believe anything they tell you.

    un believable
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    it is flat out scary what some of my felow countrymen think and believe

    these things are not "liberal" issues. they are fucking HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES

    jesus h christ



    and to those saying "well torture maybe needed if a dirty bomb is in chicago". STOP WATCHING "24" AND THE REPUBLICAN DEBATES. this is not the reality of the situation. torture has been used on detainees posing ZERO fucking threat. i repeat, these toture methods have already been used on detainees that pose/posed NO THREAT


    I dont watch 24. but a dirty bomb is certainly a threat and I'd be all for using any means possible to thwart off any such attack by your friends.

    in any and all other instances anything close to resembling torture should not be used.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    810wmb wrote:
    you have proof of that?

    this is a right wing talking point?

    wow

    you are the one saying "i repeat..."

    so prove it
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    my2hands wrote:
    shit, 30% view his presidency as succesful right now. you know what. they are all fucking idiots. period. no nicer way to say that one.


    and yes, anyone that approves of the president and his job so far in office IS A FLAT OUT FUCKING IDIOT

    PERIOD
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    dude, seriously. you repeat word for word the right wing talking points. ask around, they will tell you the same.

    and yes, when it comes to some of these black and white clear cut isses such as the patriot act and torture, anyone that justifies them or doesnt see them as harmful are just flat out fucking idiots. period. sorry, thats just the way it is.

    I dont even know what right wing talking points are. I dont watch the news. and who am I going to ask? WTF???

    most of your posts are left wing talking points.

    does that make you right and me wrong? who the fuck are you?
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I dont watch 24. but a dirty bomb is certainly a threat and I'd be all for using any means possible to thwart off any such attack by your friends.

    in any and all other instances anything close to resembling torture should not be used.

    UM, NO MORE HYPOTHETICALS PLEASE

    the fact is that WE HAVE COMMITTED TOTURE, will you at least admit that? and that this torture was not a matter of grave national security.

    come on, you guys are smarter than this

    sometimes i just sit amazed
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:

    and yes, when it comes to some of these black and white clear cut isses such as the patriot act and torture, anyone that justifies them or doesnt see them as harmful are just flat out fucking idiots. period. sorry, thats just the way it is.

    this is how 12 year boys end arguments. maybe one day you will become an adult and realize people who you disagree with arent fucking idiots.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    UM, NO MORE HYPOTHETICALS PLEASE

    the fact is that WE HAVE COMMITTED TOTURE, will you at least admit that? and that this torture was not a matter of grave national security.

    come on, you guys are smarter than this

    sometimes i just sit amazed

    did you not read my post? there is only one instance where I would condone using any means possible.

    anything else, torture should not be used.

    get it now?
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    they waterboard our own G.I.'s

    if it's good enough for us..........

    and i won't admit anything
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I dont even know what right wing talking points are. I dont watch the news. and who am I going to ask? WTF???

    most of your posts are left wing talking points.

    does that make you right and me wrong? who the fuck are you?


    i am the guy that is telling it how it is. thats who i am. this country is full of fucking idiots and it is time to start calling them out. they are why we are in this mess with a presidentional decider/dictator... my country will not torture in my fucking name, maybe yours, but not mine
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    810wmb wrote:
    you have proof of that?
    810wmb wrote:
    this is a right wing talking point?

    wow

    you are the one saying "i repeat..."

    so prove it
    ...
    You know... you are arguing with yourself here... right?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    i am the guy that is telling it how it is. thats who i am. this country is full of fucking idiots and it is time to start calling them out. they are why we are in this mess with a presidentional decider/dictator... my country will not torture in my fucking name, maybe yours, but not mine

    actually you are a nobody. just tiny immature uneducated guy with an opinion.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    did you not read my post? there is only one instance where I would condone using any means possible.

    anything else, torture should not be used.

    get it now?

    ok, so it has been used. and not in your hypothetical situation. so where is the justification for toture? and why is torture all of the sudden a "left wing" thing to despise?

    seriously man. this shit isnt a game. we are fucking torturing people. and you are making excuses for it?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    ok, so it has been used. and not in your hypothetical situation. so where is the justification for toture? and why is torture all of the sudden a "left wing" thing to despise?

    seriously man. this shit isnt a game. we are fucking torturing people. and you are making excuses for it?

    it happened with kalid sheik mohammad. probably a few others but it has since stopped and is not happening anymore.

    get over it.

    amazing how you have such a bleeding heart for these scumbags who would cut your head off with a butter knife given the chance.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    actually you are a nobody. just tiny immature uneducated guy with an opinion.

    actually...

    i am not tiny

    i am educated

    i am mature


    i am sick and tired of assholes excusing some of the insanity this administartion has orchestrated.

    and i obviously pay more attention to the world around me then you do chief.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    my2hands wrote:
    i am the guy that is telling it how it is. thats who i am. this country is full of fucking idiots and it is time to start calling them out. they are why we are in this mess with a presidentional decider/dictator... my country will not torture in my fucking name, maybe yours, but not mine


    al gore lost a free election...the second term of st george was much bigger


    get into the real world
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    810wmb wrote:
    they waterboard our own G.I.'s

    if it's good enough for us..........

    and i won't admit anything


    and those people were prosecuted for war crimes in WWII my friend

    open a book
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    actually...

    i am not tiny

    i am educated

    i am mature


    i am sick and tired of assholes excusing some of the insanity this administartion has orchestrated.

    and i obviously pay more attention to the world around me then you do chief.


    like I said before, mature people dont call people they disagree with fucking idiots. and you are tiny. I can see your napoleon complex from here. get over yourself.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    jlew24asu wrote:
    amazing how you have such a bleeding heart for these scumbags who would cut your head off with a butter knife given the chance.

    no shit, that's what amazes me, everyone here taking up for these dudes would be dead within a week if they had their way.
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    810wmb wrote:
    al gore lost a free election...the second term of st george was much bigger


    get into the real world


    yup, 50 million fucking idiots voted for this fake cowboy


    i asked a friend of mine a few months ago why he voted for bush... he said "so we can fight them there and not here"... i couldnt fuckign believe it. he is 35 years old and sucking up bulshit like lemonade through a straw.

    then my roomate the other day says Iraq had was involved in 9/11???? i couldnt fuckign believe it. people still think this shit in 2007?

    no wonder my country is losing all of its integrity

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