Palestinian kindergarten graduation ceremony

jlew24asu
jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
edited June 2007 in A Moving Train
does Israel teach their children the same way? i'm just curious


http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1468wmv&ak=null
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    can you check the link jlew. i couldnt get it to work. :)
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    catefrances wrote:
    can you check the link jlew. i couldnt get it to work. :)

    thanks care. it took a long time it to load for me. some say winamp works best. I dont know.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    well what do you know. its working now. perhaps a little patience is required. though admittedly before it wouldnt even connect to the site let alone take time to open anything. ta jlew. :)
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  • OneLove
    OneLove Posts: 563
    jlew24asu wrote:
    does Israel teach their children the same way? i'm just curious


    http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1468wmv&ak=null


    That was disturbing. I feel it is important to point out that this was a HAMAS kindergarten graudation though... not a PALESTINIAN one. That is a crucial distinction.

    HAMAS is a primarily palestinian organization. That does not mean that palestinian = hamas.
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,067
    disturbing? why? I think propaganda is funny.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    OneLove wrote:
    That was disturbing. I feel it is important to point out that this was a HAMAS kindergarten graudation though... not a PALESTINIAN one. That is a crucial distinction.

    HAMAS is a primarily palestinian organization. That does not mean that palestinian = hamas.
    hamas was/is the elected government. thats like saying democrats and republicans are not americans.
  • OneLove
    OneLove Posts: 563
    jlew24asu wrote:
    hamas was/is the elected government. thats like saying democrats and republicans are not americans.


    No, its more like saying not all americans are Republicans. Just because we happen to have a Republican in charge right now does not make all of us Republicans any more than it makes all Palestinians Hamas believers.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:
    hamas was/is the elected government. thats like saying democrats and republicans are not americans.
    ...
    No... he has it right.
    All Hamas is Palestinian... just as all Democrats and Republicans are Americans.
    Not all Palestinians are Hamas... just as not all Americans are Democrats... and not all americans are Republicans.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ok great. have we established that hamas is palestinian? great. how bout them schools huh? fuck Israel.
  • OneLove
    OneLove Posts: 563
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    No... he has it right.
    All Hamas is Palestinian... just as all Democrats and Republicans are Americans.
    Not all Palestinians are Hamas... just as not all Americans are Democrats... and not all americans are Republicans.

    I understand what you are saying...

    I just ment to point out that labeling something as Palestinian, when it does not represent all Palestinians, gives it a false pretense (Hamas has a slim majority in the gov't, from what I understand).

    That is how propaganda gets people worked up... it leaves the consumer presuming absolutes while pointing out extremes.

    Imagine someone in Palestine, since we are talking about it... watching one of the political ads (or worse) from last election time, and thinking that is how all Americans feel.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:
    ok great. have we established that hamas is palestinian? great. how bout them schools huh? fuck Israel.
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    Didn't see the video... work computer and firewalls and network sniffers and shit... but, i get the gist. Anti-Israel... Hate Israel... Kill Israel... right?
    That's typical of many Arab states... although, Kintergarten is pretty young to get them on the road to bomb vests. At least the Pakistanis wait til they are about 9 or 10... and the Saudis don't get them til they reach their teens.
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    And yes... I abhor it. Just as I abhor Israel's occupation. I think both the Palestinians and Israelis are shitheads who really don't care if their kids grow up to kill each other. It's like a fucking way of life for BOTH those assholes.
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  • not4u
    not4u Posts: 512
    i can see where the 'jesus camps' get thier influence from.
    we don't want war, but we still want more?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Didn't see the video... work computer and firewalls and network sniffers and shit... but, i get the gist. Anti-Israel... Hate Israel... Kill Israel... right?

    no no. absolutely not. Israel is not mentioned once in this video. it shows kindergartener's dressed in full military gear with fake machine guns marching around in a classroom doing military drills praising Allah and saying how they will die for him.
    That's typical of many Arab states... although, Kintergarten is pretty young to get them on the road to bomb vests. At least the Pakistanis wait til they are about 9 or 10... and the Saudis don't get them til they reach their teens.
    well its typical so I guess it makes it ok. after all its Israel who is the bad guy.
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    And yes... I abhor it. Just as I abhor Israel's occupation. I think both the Palestinians and Israelis are shitheads who really don't care if their kids grow up to kill each other. It's like a fucking way of life for BOTH those assholes.
    really? Israel does the same thing to its children? seriously?
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no no. absolutely not. Israel is not mentioned once in this video. it shows kindergartener's dressed in full military gear with fake machine guns marching around in a classroom doing military drills praising Allah and saying how they will die for him.

    well its typical so I guess it makes it ok. after all its Israel who is the bad guy.
    ...

    really? Israel does the same thing to its children? seriously?
    ...
    The only comment I'm going to make about this response is that you take each line out individually... and thus, out of context. Nothing worthwhile here for me to address.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Cosmo wrote:
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    The only comment I'm going to make about this response is that you take each line out individually... and thus, out of context. Nothing worthwhile here for me to address.
    how is this out of context? you didnt even watch the video. I was telling you whats on it. then you mention they both treat their children the same. which isnt true. Cosmo the great has nothing to say?


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  • OneLove
    OneLove Posts: 563
    jlew24asu wrote:
    how is this out of context? you didnt even watch the video. I was telling you whats on it. then you mention they both treat their children the same. which isnt true. Cosmo the great has nothing to say?


    ...

    Someone is just itching for a fight tonite, no? ;)

    Good luck baiting someone in to this fight.
    All of the sudden I feel the urge to find a dead horse and beat it. Perhaps I already did.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:
    how is this out of context? you didnt even watch the video. I was telling you whats on it. then you mention they both treat their children the same. which isnt true. Cosmo the great has nothing to say?


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    ...
    Yup. I have nothing to say if there is nothing worthwhile to address.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    OneLove wrote:
    Someone is just itching for a fight tonite, no? ;)

    Good luck baiting someone in to this fight.
    All of the sudden I feel the urge to find a dead horse and beat it. Perhaps I already did.
    I'd like to see the usual suspects come out but they wont.

    i'll just patiently wait for the "Israel killed another child thread" to appear
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Yup. I have nothing to say if there is nothing worthwhile to address.
    go jayhawks

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