Palestinian kindergarten graduation ceremony

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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    wow

    Isreal does have a history of posing as arabs.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • ChrisD
    ChrisD Posts: 48
    OneLove wrote:
    That was disturbing. I feel it is important to point out that this was a HAMAS kindergarten graudation though... not a PALESTINIAN one. That is a crucial distinction.

    HAMAS is a primarily palestinian organization. That does not mean that palestinian = hamas.

    exactly, let me point that out again. this is not representative for all palestinian kindergartens.
    "Ransom paid the Devil, he whispers pleasing words.
    Triumphant are the angels if they can get there first."
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Kann wrote:
    Why is our only reflex towards them criticism?
    because they are children
    . not old enough to think or make their own desicions
    Kann wrote:
    Do you have solutions?
    1967 borders? zero dependence (in america) on foreign oil ?

    if those bring peace. i'm for it.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    spiral out wrote:
    Even when facts are put before him he just says there rubbish.
    give me one fucking example. I didnt think so.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ChrisD wrote:
    exactly, let me point that out again. this is not representative for all palestinian kindergartens.
    All? no. but how much? I think that is a very relevant statistic.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    gue_barium wrote:
    Your blind faith is showing. When are you going to come to reason?
    blind faith it what? Israel? no not exactly. I just like to even the playing field in what has become the hate Israel and Big Bad America moving train.
  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    jlew24asu wrote:
    because they are children
    . not old enough to think or make their own desicions
    that question had more sense when attached to the rest of my post. I understand your disgust, but try to realize that compared to your average palestinian you have virtually everything while they do not. Does that give you the right to judge?
    1967 borders? zero dependence (in america) on foreign oil ?
    if those bring peace. i'm for it.
    Chances are both of these would help (if zero dependance is for everyone)
  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It is disgusting that children of such a young age are made to dress up to look like suicide bombers. I suspect this is merely a way of sending out a message to Israel that Palestinian children, when old enough, will carry on the fight for freedom when their elders have been killed off. I think it's terrible that Palestinians have been forced into such desperation and anger. But then I suspect that anyone else would behave the same way if subjected to the same daily oppression and terror.

    LOL, I love it!!! History has been filled with the Ghandi's and MLK Jr's that show how to deal with oppression and create positive change. They are held as some of the greatest people to ever live. Maybe we could learn something by their example?

    It just kills me how you want so bad to think you are objective, yet you sympathize with people who teach their children to be suicide bombers. This HAS to be one of the most disgusting things I have heard in a long time - exploiting children for their parent's selfish agenda's and broken pride. You suspect this is how "anybody" would react huh? Are you fucking kidding me??? You are such a joke man. I would be just fine with that view if you applied it to everybody.

    America got hit on 9/11, and so we try to introduce pluralistic politics to the Middle East in an attempt to open societies and offer higher standards of living, equality among the sexes and sexual orientations, freedom of religion and above all HOPE so that desperation does not turn into another massive suicide attack in which thousands are killed. Does that not make sense to you???? You may disagree with the plan or think that it won't work all you want, but does it at least not make sense? Does that not at least have SOME nobility to it???

    It's like turning a 5-year-old into a suicide bomber is reasonable, yet trying to offer the Middle East nearly 800 years of Western enlightenment stretching all the way back to the Magna Carta is horrific????? How do you justify that to yourself, I would LOVE to know???
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    blind faith it what? Israel? no not exactly. I just like to even the playing field in what has become the hate Israel and Big Bad America moving train.

    I don't think people hate either isreal or america, they just don't agree with the actions taken by the goverments of either country.

    Is that not allowed or must we follow blindly what leaders say?

    Stop taking it all so personally. Just because you choose to believe it, does not mean we can not have differing opinons.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    jlew24asu wrote:

    seems like this has now turned into the loser of a poker game asking for his money back.


    Seems like this is the story of how the country of Israel was born. I want the land, we've been hard done by. Mine, mine, mine.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    give me one fucking example. I didnt think so.

    Jlew the video posted about the oil Rob Newman - The History Of Oil you said it was utter rubbish, did you even watch it?

    Do you think the guy just made stuff up or did thorough reserch before making his video?
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    even flow? wrote:
    Seems like this is the story of how the country of Israel was born. I want the land, we've been hard done by. Mine, mine, mine.

    Only you forget the fact that millions of Jews already lived there before 1948, and in fact had roots in the region stretching all the way back to the times of King David over 2,000 years ago. Oh year, and the Jews just didn't create Isreal and then started pushing Arabs off their land, knocking down their houses or stealing their property.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    spiral out wrote:
    I don't think people hate either isreal or america, they just don't agree with the actions taken by the goverments of either country.

    Is that not allowed or must we follow blindly what leaders say?
    yes its allowed. and I applaud people for doing so.
  • Medicated-Genius
    Medicated-Genius Posts: 359
    NCfan wrote:
    Only you forget the fact that millions of Jews already lived there before 1948, and in fact had roots in the region stretching all the way back to the times of King David over 2,000 years ago. Oh year, and the Jews just didn't create Isreal and then started pushing Arabs off their land, knocking down their houses or stealing their property.


    The thing that strikes me about this whole mess is this. Jews come from all over the world. Many, many countries in the world have a percentage of Jewish population. Being Jewish is a religion, not a nationality. Being Arab however, denotes that a person comes from a certain region. Ya know, kinda like being African means your from Africa, not that you practice African as a religion. Judaism, Jews, Jewish..... it's a religion.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    NCfan wrote:
    LOL, I love it!!! History has been filled with the Ghandi's and MLK Jr's that show how to deal with oppression and create positive change. They are held as some of the greatest people to ever live. Maybe we could learn something by their example?
    very good point
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    NCfan wrote:
    Only you forget the fact that millions of Jews already lived there before 1948

    It's not a fact at all. It's another fantasy.

    http://www.mideastweb.org/palpop.htm

    Population of Palestine 1870-1946

    1946

    Arabs - 1,237,000


    Jews - 608,000
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    NCfan wrote:
    LOL, I love it!!! History has been filled with the Ghandi's and MLK Jr's that show how to deal with oppression and create positive change. They are held as some of the greatest people to ever live. Maybe we could learn something by their example?

    It just kills me how you want so bad to think you are objective, yet you sympathize with people who teach their children to be suicide bombers. This HAS to be one of the most disgusting things I have heard in a long time - exploiting children for their parent's selfish agenda's and broken pride. You suspect this is how "anybody" would react huh? Are you fucking kidding me???

    Of course only Palestinians would dress their children up as suicide bombers for the cameras in order to convey a message to their oppressors. This is because they are inherently evil, and uncivilized, and because they are lacking the wisdom and morals supplied by 800 years of Western enlightenment stretching all the way back to the Magna Carta.
    If only these ignorant savages would wake up and realise that we are merely trying to help them when we steal their land, bulldoze their houses, shoot missiles into their crowded streets, and snipe their women and children. If only they would take a cue from MLK or Gandhi and just lay down and allow us to roll our bulldozers of compassion over them.
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    NCfan wrote:
    America got hit on 9/11, and so we try to introduce pluralistic politics to the Middle East in an attempt to open societies and offer higher standards of living, equality among the sexes and sexual orientations, freedom of religion and above all HOPE so that desperation does not turn into another massive suicide attack in which thousands are killed. Does that not make sense to you???? You may disagree with the plan or think that it won't work all you want, but does it at least not make sense? Does that not at least have SOME nobility to it???

    OMG you actually believe that rubbish?
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It's not a fact at all. It's another fantasy.

    http://www.mideastweb.org/palpop.htm

    Population of Palestine 1870-1946

    1946

    Arabs - 1,237,000


    Jews - 608,000


    Are you sure? ;)

    When the wall is finally complete will they still worry about bombers getting in? To live a life of feeling that everybody is out to get you all the time just helps sensational stories and videos that are supposed to make our hearts bleed just seem like the daily news.

    The lady beside me here at work who is Jewish yet has only visited the homeland and wasn't born there, has a hard-on for the Arabs and she hasn't a relation, of a relation, of a blood line that has ever been hard done by by an Arab. Go figure? But the race is so accepting and I am supposed to be shocked by a video that was on page one. Or disbelieve that a Jew can't hate just as much as everybody else.

    My first question to everybody I hear say there "home" is better then Canada is, "why are you here?". Please just go back and spare yourself the hardship of living here. ie: Israel
    You've changed your place in this world!

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