Woman kicked off plane for breast-feeding baby

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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    I cant believe how much discussion has come about a baby suckin of some ta ta's.

    I know isn't that bullshit? When I try suckin on some juggs on a plane, an air marshall always appears and tazers my ass.
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  • puremagic
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    I know isn't that bullshit? When I try suckin on some juggs on a plane, an air marshall always appears and tazers my ass.


    Probably cause you weren't curled up in her lap in a fetal position.
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  • JaneNY
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    puremagic wrote:
    Being that the child is nearly two, it is not dependent solely on breast feeding. I have no doubt, barring any medical or disability issues, she drinks juice and water from either a cup or bottle.

    If the mother was full of attitude and rude, I'm right there with ya. But a baby who needs to nurse and is asking this of the mother may not be easily denied, if it was fussy and tired. Its going to make noise and annoy everyone. And drinking from a cup isn't the same thing. Besides, carrying your own liquid beverages onto a plane is rather iffy these days, and people are at the mercy of what and when the flight attendents bring, so the mother may well have not had access to any other liquid at the time to provide to the baby.

    I do stand by my assertion that people who have not breastfed, or at least been around a family who has breastfed, can't fully understand the needs of a mother and breastfed child, and this is evidenced by the responses I'm reading on this thread.

    There are just so many extenuating circumstances though that we can't really speak for either the mother or the flight attendent, or the other passengers, and we don't know the whole story.
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  • puremagic wrote:
    Probably cause you weren't curled up in her lap in a fetal position.

    Oh I most certainly was.
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  • prism
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    puremagic wrote:
    Being that the child is nearly two, it is not dependent solely on breast feeding. I have no doubt, barring any medical or disability issues, she drinks juice and water from either a cup or bottle. So, for all the reasons you have stated, the mother could have just as easily provided the same simulated nursing relief from flight pressure utilizing a bottle of breast milk, juice or water as they knew that would be flying. The emotional factor of being near the mother was not an issue. As the mother indicated that there were three occupied seats, she had already been holding the child.

    The flight attendant offered her a blanket for privacy, not to stop the breast feeding process. If the blanket was unacceptable, why didn't the parents simply use something they had packed. The parents knew that they nursed this child, they knew they were taking a flight, why didn't they have a towel handy that could have been used? They could have used their jacket or sweater. I don't see where her rights were violated. I would speculate that the reason she was removed from the plane was because she became argumentative and disruptive with her "my legal rights" because I am mother and your not, you know nothing and, see, its just a breast speech and attitude while flashing it as a titty. [Its a titty when there's no baby attached, it doesn't make a difference what it was used for 5 minutes beforehand.]

    Making the point that only parents can understand and appreciate the nursing process is absurd. Everyone can appreciate the need of a nursing mother. At the same time, nursing parents need to appreciate the fact that a request for discretion is not an insult to motherhood but simply a request due to the environment. It was the flight attendant's job to ensure that all passengers were comfortable.

    you must've lost the memo that says that you can't bring drinkable liquids onto an airplane. (if this a small airport there may not be any vendors selling bottled water for $5 a piece beyond the security checkpoint) do you honestly think that security would have let them board with a sippy cup full of juice from home?

    many breastfed babies refuse to drink from a bottle no matter what it contains.

    perhaps she didn't take the offered blanket because it was one of those thick, itchy airline blankets that would be impossible for the child to BREATHE through? I know that i've been on flights that were insanely hot with those individual vent thingies not working either as well might have been the case in this situation
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  • I think it's sad that breasts have been sexualized so much by our society that people are offended to see them used for their *intended* purpose!

    Sorry to disappoint you guys, but they're for babies, not men. :-P
  • V V
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    JaneNY wrote:
    If the mother was full of attitude and rude, I'm right there with ya. But a baby who needs to nurse and is asking this of the mother may not be easily denied, if it was fussy and tired. Its going to make noise and annoy everyone. And drinking from a cup isn't the same thing. Besides, carrying your own liquid beverages onto a plane is rather iffy these days, and people are at the mercy of what and when the flight attendents bring, so the mother may well have not had access to any other liquid at the time to provide to the baby.

    I do stand by my assertion that people who have not breastfed, or at least been around a family who has breastfed, can't fully understand the needs of a mother and breastfed child, and this is evidenced by the responses I'm reading on this thread.

    There are just so many extenuating circumstances though that we can't really speak for either the mother or the flight attendent, or the other passengers, and we don't know the whole story.


    yes exactly and we wont ever really know unless someone was there with a camera , but i will state again that no mother wishes to expose her breasts in public so i am sure it was done as discrately as possible !
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  • i've seen hundreds of moms breastfeed in public, even in public utility vehicles... i guess it's probably how people are used to seeing moms breastfeed in public, because here it's pretty normal
  • I would have refused, even if it holds up the flight. I am not an aggressive person but I just would have refused point blank to uproot me and my family just for discreet breast feeding. The woman was stupid to have yielded to that stupid flight attendant. Think Rosa Parks in this situation!
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  • she should have been fired......
    actually im wrong.....

    2 tasers and a weeks pay..........

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Kat wrote:


    not neccessary to kick her off the damn plane. I mean she was in the second to last row, window seat, next to her husband. leave her alone.

    although agreeing to use a small blanket to cover up is not too much to ask. (but not worthy of being booted) I think its common courtesy to at least be discreet about it.
  • mookie9999
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    mookie9999 wrote:
    But as I stated in an earlier post could it possibly be the fault of both sides? We are only hearing one side of the story. I would venture to guess that the flight attendant was displaying their typical arrogance (wanted to add both male and female flight attendants are included in this description) but without hearing his/her side of the story we are not sure what exactly occured and I would be basing my conclusions on a stereotype.

    Flight Attendant:"Ma'am would you mind placing this towel over your chest while you breast feed?"

    Passenger: "No"

    (Flight Attendant walks away momentarily)

    Flight Attendant: "Ma'am you have to leave the plane now"

    Passenger: "O.K."

    End Scene


    I stand corrected, sort of. It looks as though my dialogue wasn't so far fetched. Three cheers for the mom, and a couple of tasers for the stewardess (she doesn't deserve the designation of Flight Attendant!)
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  • JaneNY wrote:
    The thing that is ridiculous is if a child is breastfeeding, you can't SEE much of the breast, as it is covered up by the kid's head. I can tell you this from experience. Also, I can tell you that a 22 month old child will NOT take kindly to having a blanket dumped over its head simply because it is EATING. A 22 month old probably has a few words including NO! If you have a kid at your breast, and the shirt above the kid's head, really, nothing basically is visible, because a kid that age is going to cover up most of your mid section as well as the breast. One's primary goal in traveling with a 22 month old is keeping it HAPPY and FED, otherwise its a pain for EVERYONE on the plane. Would they have rather sat with a screaming miserable baby the whole flight?


    That's exactly what I was thinking about Jane when I was reading some comments about common courtesy and accepting the blanket.
    I breastfed my last son for 2 years and believe me the last thing he wanted thrown on his head was a blanket! :S

    A 22 month old, you guys realize that this child was almost 2 years old, a 2 year old's head is pretty big, there is no way half of her boob was out, this was the flight attendant being a total bitch and it was outrageous to be thrown out of the plane for breastfeeding and had it been me oh man! I would have totally made a scene! lol
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  • callen
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    I breastfed my last son for 2 years and believe me the last thing he wanted thrown on his head was a blanket! :S
    and it was a nasty airline blanket.
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  • callen
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    puremagic wrote:
    The child is almost two years old, the parents knew they were taking a flight of less than 1 hr.1/2 could she not have prepared a bottle of breast milk, juice or water? No! there is nothing wrong with breast feeding. At 22 months, however, parents do have some control and options.

    What puzzles me is why she did this at the boarding stage of the flight? The mother's location would not have prevented her from being exposed to passengers looking for their seats or placing their carryon bags. Again, why pick the boarding stage when a child is likely to be distracted by the activity on the plane or outside of the window?

    If her "legal right" outweighed her indiscretion, why didn't she feed the child in the terminal while waiting for the flight? Why did she feel the need to wait until they were on the plane to immediately start breast feeding?

    with breast feeding...she shouldn't have to worry about indescretion....do it where ever the hell she pleases to do it. If people are in any way bothered by this they need to look at themselves. Like maybe don't go in public if such a vile thing in any way offends or bothers you.
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  • soulsinging
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    Kat wrote:

    lo and behold... who was offended here? not a guy who couldn't stop staring at her tit... the female flight attendant. another notch in my theory that women are doing far more to hold each other down than men are.
  • redrock
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    This just seems to be such an american thing (and please.. I'm not starting a 'hate america and americans' debate). They still seem to have such puritanical attitudes to the naked body (just as a reminder.. the furor Janet Jackson caused when her boob was 'exposed', though still with the nipple covered!). In Europe, it is quite common for women to breastfeed in public, without anyone batting an eyelid. There is no way a nursing mother would 'expose' herself. Nursing is always a discreet affair....
  • callen
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    redrock wrote:
    This just seems to be such an american thing (and please.. I'm not starting a 'hate america and americans' debate). They still seem to have such puritanical attitudes to the naked body (just as a reminder.. the furor Janet Jackson caused when her boob was 'exposed', though still with the nipple covered!). In Europe, it is quite common for women to breastfeed in public, without anyone batting an eyelid. There is no way a nursing mother would 'expose' herself. Nursing is always a discreet affair....

    a large percentage of Americans see through the hypocracy on nudity. The rest...well they voted for Bush. (-:
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