Woman kicked off plane for breast-feeding baby

SPEEDY MCCREADY

breasticles...............

Puck78

transplant wrote:

Traveling with infants is stressful enough, I can't imagine this mother would simply walk off the plane, stick around the airport longer and wait for another flight. All for not simply covering up.

Should she have too? of course not, though it doesn't take a genius to figure out it makes plenty of people uncomfortable, so why exactly would she not take that into consideration at least? If no blanket was available sure, but really, what is the big deal covering up anyway?

The request to cover up is completely reasonable however once she declined, the drama should have stopped there.

what about turning your head if you feel uncomfortable?
Also: there's nothing sexual in breastfeeding, why should you feel uncomfortable? Just turn your head...

jlew24asu

I think making laws against it is a little much but like cincy said, I really dont care to see it. women should be dicreet about when doing it. its simple common courtesy

JaneNY

The thing that is ridiculous is if a child is breastfeeding, you can't SEE much of the breast, as it is covered up by the kid's head. I can tell you this from experience. Also, I can tell you that a 22 month old child will NOT take kindly to having a blanket dumped over its head simply because it is EATING. A 22 month old probably has a few words including NO! If you have a kid at your breast, and the shirt above the kid's head, really, nothing basically is visible, because a kid that age is going to cover up most of your mid section as well as the breast. One's primary goal in traveling with a 22 month old is keeping it HAPPY and FED, otherwise its a pain for EVERYONE on the plane. Would they have rather sat with a screaming miserable baby the whole flight?

jeffbr

Puck78 wrote:

which are the basis for such a state law???? This is really sick... and then people in this board talk a lot about Iran...

Except that most people on this board think this is stupid as well. So pull your head out.

chromiam

couldn't you just invest in a pump and feed the kid with a bottle on the plane??? yeah I know too much logic.

angelica

VictoryGin wrote:

so i can understand this, what makes you so uncomfortable about that kind of situation?

I would like to answer this, since I also feel uncomfortable around people breastfeeding, even when I understand it is a natural process and that my discomfort is my own issue.

To me, it's pretty clear many of us are raised in this oppressive patriarchal society, where the natural purposes of breasts are to be hidden and shamed, while the sexualization of them for male gratification is capitalized on. Therefore, for me, at least, such conditioning runs deep. Feelings are arational. They represent our past brain wiring. So, while I may have irrational and rational concerns re: breastfeeding, which many times is unconscious. I do what I can by owning them, and by not projecting my own issues onto others. I use reasoning to redirect and grow from my own issues.

jeffbr

chromiam wrote:

couldn't you just invest in a pump and feed the kid with a bottle on the plane??? yeah I know too much logic.

It isn't quite the same. For some kids, once they get the bottle they won't go back to the breast.

QuarterToTen

when breastfeeding in public, discretion should always be a priority.
it can be done. me, i would have had a blanket of my own and used it.

better that she fed the infant than had a screaming, angry, hungry baby
on a packed airplane. now thats something no wants to see.

VictoryGin

JaneNY wrote:

The thing that is ridiculous is if a child is breastfeeding, you can't SEE much of the breast, as it is covered up by the kid's head. I can tell you this from experience. Also, I can tell you that a 22 month old child will NOT take kindly to having a blanket dumped over its head simply because it is EATING. A 22 month old probably has a few words including NO! If you have a kid at your breast, and the shirt above the kid's head, really, nothing basically is visible, because a kid that age is going to cover up most of your mid section as well as the breast. One's primary goal in traveling with a 22 month old is keeping it HAPPY and FED, otherwise its a pain for EVERYONE on the plane. Would they have rather sat with a screaming miserable baby the whole flight?

ha, look at who you're talking to. a bunch of dudes who will never know what being in that situation is like. and i'd bet that at least some of these dudes have no problem seeing breasts in magazines or in movies.

angelica

cutback wrote:

I agree. It does make some people uncomfortable so common courtesy would be to accept the blanket.

One of the most important aspects of breastfeeding, and one that contributes to the overall health of the baby is the eye contact and deep emotional bonding between mother and baby. Imagine that you were to sit down to eat dinner with your loved ones, and it was considered socially acceptable for someone to come drop a blanket over your head for the duration of the meal. How would you feel being cut off from your loved ones, and your surroundings while "enjoying" your meal? Besides the emotional disconnection, would you enjoy eating your meal with a blanket covering you? Babies are very aware intelligent beings who are being conditioned, and who are developing their emotional wiring in every single moment of their lives. Do you condone sacrificing such an important aspect of family development because others choose grandstanding rather than awareness, owning their own baggage, and turning from looking?

VictoryGin

angelica wrote:

I would like to answer this, since I also feel uncomfortable around people breastfeeding, even when I understand it is a natural process and that my discomfort is my own issue.

To me, it's pretty clear many of us are raised in this oppressive patriarchal society, where the natural purposes of breasts are to be hidden and shamed, while the sexualization of them for male gratification is capitalized on. Therefore, for me, at least, such conditioning runs deep. Feelings are arational. They represent our past brain wiring. So, while I may have irrational and rational concerns re: breastfeeding, which many times is unconscious. I do what I can by owning them, and by not projecting my own issues onto others. I use reasoning to redirect and grow from my own issues.

thanks for expanding on that. i can totally see what you're saying. it's just frustrating when all others can say is 'cover it up' without talking about why. i have an idea on why, ha.

angelica

VictoryGin wrote:

thanks for expanding on that. i can totally see what you're saying. it's just frustrating when all others can say is 'cover it up' without talking about why. i have an idea on why, ha.

You're welcome. I understand what you are saying! I definitely do not support egotistic ignorance of the actual issues! And I don't accept sacrificing the well-being of the baby for self-centered, unaware adults! I admire the women who are willing to do what is right, even when everyone else is caught up in their own opinions and feelings, oblivious to the facts.

chromiam

Just a thought here: Did anyone think that maybe the flight attentent was uncomfortable with it and that's why the blanket was offered?? I mean people are all up in arms about workers rights in regards to smoking and other things, is this something that a worker should be subjected to while on the job?? just a thought

angelica

chromiam wrote:

Just a thought here: Did anyone think that maybe the flight attentent was uncomfortable with it and that's why the blanket was offered?? I mean people are all up in arms about workers rights in regards to smoking and other things, is this something that a worker should be subjected to while on the job?? just a thought

smoking is literally a danger to all surrounding the smoker.

VictoryGin

chromiam wrote:

Just a thought here: Did anyone think that maybe the flight attentent was uncomfortable with it and that's why the blanket was offered?? I mean people are all up in arms about workers rights in regards to smoking and other things, is this something that a worker should be subjected to while on the job?? just a thought

let's see. a case can me made that second hand smoke harms workers' health. how is it exactly that seeing someone feed their kid harmful to workers' health?

my god. and i'm a smoker and can see this.

Byrnzie

Maybe the baby smelled?

angelica

Byrnzie wrote:

Maybe the baby smelled?

What planet are you from?? Everyone knows babies smell like angels and of heaven!

transplant

Puck78 wrote:

what about turning your head if you feel uncomfortable?
Also: there's nothing sexual in breastfeeding, why should you feel uncomfortable? Just turn your head...

I think that is what people do when they feel uncomfortable, they turn their head. I kind of liken it to walking into a public bathroom and seeing some guy on the toilet. I realize that taking a dump is a natural process however I don't care to see it. So what do I do? I turn my head. It would be great if I didn't have to see it in the first place.

Sexual has NOTHING to do with it. I once saw an ad with Jenny McCarthy on the crapper. Her pants were down and I still didn't want to see it. that doesn't mean in the proper context I wouldn't like to see her with her pants down.

You can't really help what makes you uncomfortable. It is painfully obvious that many feel it, so again, just common courtesy tells me that if a blanket is available, just use it.

If there is a reason why (like JaneNY said, some kids get freaked out being covered up) say that. My wife breastfed both our kids and always covered up. So yeah, I still don't see the big deal covering up?

norm

VictoryGin wrote:

how about you just not look if it makes you so upset? jesus. it's a natural process. the mother should not have to be shamed. hell, chances are you sucked on your mom's breast too.

Um, I'm not sure when I said it made me uncomfortable. I said some people.
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