Woman kicked off plane for breast-feeding baby

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edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
With all the worries of terrorists a woman gets kicked off a plane for breast feeding? How ridiculous.

Woman kicked off plane for breast-feeding baby
Files complaint saying she was being discreet, airline disagrees


BURLINGTON, Vt. - A woman who claims she was kicked off an airplane because she was breast-feeding her baby has filed a complaint against two airlines, her attorney said.
Emily Gillette, 27, of Santa Fe, N.M., filed the complaint with the Vermont Human Rights Commission late last week against Delta Air Lines and Freedom Airlines, said her attorney, Elizabeth Boepple. Freedom was operating the Delta flight between Burlington and New York City.
Gillette said she was discreetly breast-feeding her 22-month-old daughter on Oct. 13 as their flight prepared to leave Burlington International Airport. She said she was seated by the window in the next-to-last row, her husband was seated between her and the aisle and no part of her breast was showing.
A flight attendant tried to hand her a blanket and told her to cover up, Gillette said. She declined, telling the flight attendant she had a legal right to breast-feed her baby.
Moments later, a Delta ticket agent approached and said the flight attendant had asked that the family be removed from the flight, Gillette said. She said she didn’t want to make a scene and complied.
“It embarrassed me. That was my first reaction, which is a weird reaction for doing something so good for a child,” Gillette said Monday.
A Freedom spokesman said Gillette was asked to leave the flight after she declined the blanket.
“A breast-feeding mother is perfectly acceptable on an aircraft, providing she is feeding the child in a discreet way,” that doesn’t bother others, said Paul Skellon, spokesman for Phoenix-based Freedom. “She was asked to use a blanket just to provide a little more discretion, she was given a blanket, and she refused to use it, and that’s all I know.”
A complaint against two airlines was filed with the Vermont Human Rights Commission, although Executive Director Robert Appel said he was barred by state law from confirming the complaint. He said state law allows a mother to breast-feed in public.
The Vermont Human Rights Commission investigates complaints and determines whether discrimination may have occurred. The parties to a complaint are given six months to reach a settlement. If none is reached, the commission then decides whether to go to court. A complainant can file a separate suit in state court at any time.
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  • Why the need for a blanket? She was feeding her baby, is that seen to be sexual in New England or something?
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Why the need for a blanket? She was feeding her baby, is that seen to be sexual in New England or something?

    What's weird is that seeing breasts in a sexual context is okay, but seeing them in the context for which they were made is not okay. If you look around you, sex and breasts are used to sell most things and you see them in sexual contexts in movies, on tv, (think about how much more 'normal' it is to see breasts than a penis on tv and in a movie) etc.

    It really pisses me off when people get all worked up over breastfeeding. It's so amazingly stupid.
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  • V VV V Posts: 5,191
    VictoryGin wrote:
    What's weird is that seeing breasts in a sexual context is okay, but seeing them in the context for which they were made is not okay. If you look around you, sex and breasts are used to sell most things and you see them in sexual contexts in movies, on tv, (think about how much more 'normal' it is to see breasts than a penis on tv and in a movie) etc.

    It really pisses me off when people get all worked up over breastfeeding. It's so amazingly stupid.


    i agree totaly , would they give a blanket to a woman whos top was extermly low cut ???

    this kinda thing makes me so mad !
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  • Puck78Puck78 Posts: 737
    A complaint against two airlines was filed with the Vermont Human Rights Commission, although Executive Director Robert Appel said he was barred by state law from confirming the complaint. He said state law allows a mother to breast-feed in public.
    which are the basis for such a state law???? This is really sick... and then people in this board talk a lot about Iran...
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  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    Sounds like the flight attendant was a royal bitch. That is beyond ridiculous.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    VictoryGin wrote:
    What's weird is that seeing breasts in a sexual context is okay, but seeing them in the context for which they were made is not okay. If you look around you, sex and breasts are used to sell most things and you see them in sexual contexts in movies, on tv, (think about how much more 'normal' it is to see breasts than a penis on tv and in a movie) etc.

    It really pisses me off when people get all worked up over breastfeeding. It's so amazingly stupid.


    I don't want to see it.

    It makes me uncomfortable...especially if the woman was sitting next to or even near me.

    That being said, I realize it is natural and me being uncomfortable is really my problem...not her's or her baby's.

    So lopng as she wasn't trying to fly the plane while breast feeding...I don't see a problem.
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    That's just fucking ridiculous
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  • I don't want to see it.

    It makes me uncomfortable...especially if the woman was sitting next to or even near me.

    That being said, I realize it is natural and me being uncomfortable is really my problem...not her's or her baby's.

    So lopng as she wasn't trying to fly the plane while breast feeding...I don't see a problem.
    same here... I'd be a little uncomfortable too... but I don't have to look and I realise it's something natural and that HAS to be done... but I'd never even consider complaining or the fact that I have anything to complain about. Fucking stuck up prude.
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  • V VV V Posts: 5,191
    it doesnt seem like an other passengers were upset or complaining about it , she was probably only awhere it was happening as she was standing ! what a silly tart , I hope something is done about her crap ignorate attitude !
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    I don't want to see it.

    It makes me uncomfortable...especially if the woman was sitting next to or even near me.

    That being said, I realize it is natural and me being uncomfortable is really my problem...not her's or her baby's.

    So lopng as she wasn't trying to fly the plane while breast feeding...I don't see a problem.

    I agree.
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  • Puck78Puck78 Posts: 737
    gabers wrote:
    Sounds like the flight attendant was a royal bitch. That is beyond ridiculous.
    it is not only a flight attendant problem, it's also a state law problem:
    A complaint against two airlines was filed with the Vermont Human Rights Commission, although Executive Director Robert Appel said he was barred by state law from confirming the complaint. He said state law allows a mother to breast-feed in public.
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  • V VV V Posts: 5,191
    Puck78 wrote:
    it is not only a flight attendant problem, it's also a state law problem:


    I dont understand what ur saying about the law ??
    if it says it is legal to BF in public .

    tho. why there is a law on this is behond me , we shouldnt need one !
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    V V wrote:

    tho. why there is a law on this is behond me , we shouldnt need one !

    That's what I was thinking...
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  • Puck78Puck78 Posts: 737
    sorry! i misread, apologies!
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  • transplanttransplant Posts: 1,088
    Traveling with infants is stressful enough, I can't imagine this mother would simply walk off the plane, stick around the airport longer and wait for another flight. All for not simply covering up.

    Should she have too? of course not, though it doesn't take a genius to figure out it makes plenty of people uncomfortable, so why exactly would she not take that into consideration at least? If no blanket was available sure, but really, what is the big deal covering up anyway?

    The request to cover up is completely reasonable however once she declined, the drama should have stopped there.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    transplant wrote:
    Traveling with infants is stressful enough, I can't imagine this mother would simply walk off the plane, stick around the airport longer and wait for another flight. All for not simply covering up.

    Should she have too? of course not, though it doesn't take a genius to figure out it makes plenty of people uncomfortable, so why exactly would she not take that into consideration at least? If no blanket was available sure, but really, what is the big deal covering up anyway?

    The request to cover up is completely reasonable however once she declined, the drama should have stopped there.
    I agree. It does make some people uncomfortable so common courtesy would be to accept the blanket.
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    V V wrote:
    tho. why there is a law on this is behond me , we shouldnt need one !

    i agree that we shouldn't need one, but my guess is that they had to make one because this type of situation was happening too much (people getting upset over feeding in public). sad.
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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    cutback wrote:
    I agree. It does make some people uncomfortable so common courtesy would be to accept the blanket.

    how about you just not look if it makes you so upset? jesus. it's a natural process. the mother should not have to be shamed. hell, chances are you sucked on your mom's breast too.
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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    I don't want to see it.

    It makes me uncomfortable...especially if the woman was sitting next to or even near me.

    That being said, I realize it is natural and me being uncomfortable is really my problem...not her's or her baby's.

    So lopng as she wasn't trying to fly the plane while breast feeding...I don't see a problem.

    so i can understand this, what makes you so uncomfortable about that kind of situation?
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  • Puck78Puck78 Posts: 737
    transplant wrote:
    Traveling with infants is stressful enough, I can't imagine this mother would simply walk off the plane, stick around the airport longer and wait for another flight. All for not simply covering up.

    Should she have too? of course not, though it doesn't take a genius to figure out it makes plenty of people uncomfortable, so why exactly would she not take that into consideration at least? If no blanket was available sure, but really, what is the big deal covering up anyway?

    The request to cover up is completely reasonable however once she declined, the drama should have stopped there.
    what about turning your head if you feel uncomfortable?
    Also: there's nothing sexual in breastfeeding, why should you feel uncomfortable? Just turn your head...
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I think making laws against it is a little much but like cincy said, I really dont care to see it. women should be dicreet about when doing it. its simple common courtesy
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    The thing that is ridiculous is if a child is breastfeeding, you can't SEE much of the breast, as it is covered up by the kid's head. I can tell you this from experience. Also, I can tell you that a 22 month old child will NOT take kindly to having a blanket dumped over its head simply because it is EATING. A 22 month old probably has a few words including NO! If you have a kid at your breast, and the shirt above the kid's head, really, nothing basically is visible, because a kid that age is going to cover up most of your mid section as well as the breast. One's primary goal in traveling with a 22 month old is keeping it HAPPY and FED, otherwise its a pain for EVERYONE on the plane. Would they have rather sat with a screaming miserable baby the whole flight?
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Puck78 wrote:
    which are the basis for such a state law???? This is really sick... and then people in this board talk a lot about Iran...

    Except that most people on this board think this is stupid as well. So pull your head out.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    couldn't you just invest in a pump and feed the kid with a bottle on the plane??? yeah I know too much logic.
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    VictoryGin wrote:
    so i can understand this, what makes you so uncomfortable about that kind of situation?

    I would like to answer this, since I also feel uncomfortable around people breastfeeding, even when I understand it is a natural process and that my discomfort is my own issue.

    To me, it's pretty clear many of us are raised in this oppressive patriarchal society, where the natural purposes of breasts are to be hidden and shamed, while the sexualization of them for male gratification is capitalized on. Therefore, for me, at least, such conditioning runs deep. Feelings are arational. They represent our past brain wiring. So, while I may have irrational and rational concerns re: breastfeeding, which many times is unconscious. I do what I can by owning them, and by not projecting my own issues onto others. I use reasoning to redirect and grow from my own issues.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    chromiam wrote:
    couldn't you just invest in a pump and feed the kid with a bottle on the plane??? yeah I know too much logic.

    It isn't quite the same. For some kids, once they get the bottle they won't go back to the breast.
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  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,642
    when breastfeeding in public, discretion should always be a priority.
    it can be done. me, i would have had a blanket of my own and used it.

    better that she fed the infant than had a screaming, angry, hungry baby
    on a packed airplane. now thats something no wants to see.
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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    JaneNY wrote:
    The thing that is ridiculous is if a child is breastfeeding, you can't SEE much of the breast, as it is covered up by the kid's head. I can tell you this from experience. Also, I can tell you that a 22 month old child will NOT take kindly to having a blanket dumped over its head simply because it is EATING. A 22 month old probably has a few words including NO! If you have a kid at your breast, and the shirt above the kid's head, really, nothing basically is visible, because a kid that age is going to cover up most of your mid section as well as the breast. One's primary goal in traveling with a 22 month old is keeping it HAPPY and FED, otherwise its a pain for EVERYONE on the plane. Would they have rather sat with a screaming miserable baby the whole flight?

    ha, look at who you're talking to. a bunch of dudes who will never know what being in that situation is like. and i'd bet that at least some of these dudes have no problem seeing breasts in magazines or in movies.
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