Woman kicked off plane for breast-feeding baby

soulsinging

angelica wrote:

Just put it right out there! I'm laughing hysterically, by the way! But do you really see us is what I want to know? Or do you see the Playboy version, where we are airbrushed, hair blowing in the "wind", while sitting there nonchalantly spreadeagled?

ummm... i cant say ive ever seen a woman who was airbrushed with hair blowing in the wind or anything like that... in my imagination or otherwise. i dont even like that look in playboy. it's weird.

angelica

mookie9999 wrote:

I see where you are coming from and agree that a mother must do whatever action is necessary to protect their child. However wasn't the blanket a solution? She was not asked to stop breast feeding, but rather to cover up.

Apparently you don't see where I'm coming from.

soulsinging

VictoryGin wrote:

it would be fascinating to really get a good idea about crosscultural breastfeeding attitudes and see how socioeconomic status and other things play into each culture. i'd guess that many african cultures have absolutely no problem with breastfeeding in public and that would be a positive value. it wouldn't strike me that many mothers there would use formula, except for higher income women or those who moved from another country like the us. i'd also guess that saudi arabia frowns upon breastfeeding in public because of their female oppression. i'd love to hear about other cultures and their attitudes because it's so interesting. it would be great to see different religious influences too. i mean people here sometimes try to seem all pro-child, pro-life so you think it wouldn't be a big deal, or indecent, to catch a glimpse of what actually feeds the child.

have you seen national geographic? they go totally topless there! dumb question

there is a certain contradiction inherent in the pro-life crowd that is so focused on sexual sin and prudishness. but hey, what is religion for if not irrational hypocrisy?

VictoryGin

nick1977 wrote:

We see much more of a young woman's breast who is wearing a low cut top than we do of a mother's breast who is feeding a child. They don't ask women wearing low cut tops to cover up.

exactly

cincybearcat

VictoryGin wrote:

exactly

BUt when we have to see an innocent baby going to town on some funbags...it makes us feel creepy for the way we are made to feel about hooters.

VictoryGin

cincybearcat wrote:

BUt when we have to see an innocent baby going to town on some funbags...it makes us feel creepy for the way we are made to feel about hooters.

how about taking some personal responsibility and not be made to feel a certain way? see breasts for what purpose they serve (or what god made them for?).

maybe you could start by not calling them funbags. milk-givers, perhaps?

angelica

soulsinging wrote:

ummm... i cant say ive ever seen a woman who was airbrushed with hair blowing in the wind or anything like that... in my imagination or otherwise. i dont even like that look in playboy. it's weird.

Maybe I need to stop watching those trashy teen movies--you know the type where the guy has the fantasy about the "hot" girl, and it's a reworked scene out of a porno movie, essentially.

I'm never quite sure what men are thinking. I've heard numerous guys claim they love the reality of women. Many of the women I know don't buy it. As they (okay "we" ) continue to buy the products craftily marketed towards our feelings of inadequacy.

ThreeCrookedHearts

lol, if she didn't want to make a scene then why didn't she just take the blanket? Oh, right, cuz at that point she didn't have a law-suit. :rolleyes:

angelica

cincybearcat wrote:

BUt when we have to see an innocent baby going to town on some funbags...it makes us feel creepy for the way we are made to feel about hooters.

I personally am appreciating your sense of truthfulness, deftly wrapped in irony.

cincybearcat

VictoryGin wrote:

how about taking some personal responsibility and not be made to feel a certain way? see breasts for what purpose they serve (or what god made them for?).

maybe you could start by not calling them funbags. milk-givers, perhaps?

I already took that personal responsibility earlier in the thread. I was just having fun here talking about milk jugs....baby wanna milkshake....shake that milk maker!!!!!!!!!!!

Ms. Haiku

SuzannePjam wrote:

With all the worries of terrorists a woman gets kicked off a plane for breast feeding? How ridiculous.

Woman kicked off plane for breast-feeding baby
Files complaint saying she was being discreet, airline disagrees


BURLINGTON, Vt. - A woman who claims she was kicked off an airplane because she was breast-feeding her baby has filed a complaint against two airlines, her attorney said.
Emily Gillette, 27, of Santa Fe, N.M., filed the complaint with the Vermont Human Rights Commission late last week against Delta Air Lines and Freedom Airlines, said her attorney, Elizabeth Boepple. Freedom was operating the Delta flight between Burlington and New York City.
Gillette said she was discreetly breast-feeding her 22-month-old daughter on Oct. 13 as their flight prepared to leave Burlington International Airport. She said she was seated by the window in the next-to-last row, her husband was seated between her and the aisle and no part of her breast was showing.
A flight attendant tried to hand her a blanket and told her to cover up, Gillette said. She declined, telling the flight attendant she had a legal right to breast-feed her baby.
Moments later, a Delta ticket agent approached and said the flight attendant had asked that the family be removed from the flight, Gillette said. She said she didn’t want to make a scene and complied.
“It embarrassed me. That was my first reaction, which is a weird reaction for doing something so good for a child,” Gillette said Monday.
A Freedom spokesman said Gillette was asked to leave the flight after she declined the blanket.
“A breast-feeding mother is perfectly acceptable on an aircraft, providing she is feeding the child in a discreet way,” that doesn’t bother others, said Paul Skellon, spokesman for Phoenix-based Freedom. “She was asked to use a blanket just to provide a little more discretion, she was given a blanket, and she refused to use it, and that’s all I know.”
A complaint against two airlines was filed with the Vermont Human Rights Commission, although Executive Director Robert Appel said he was barred by state law from confirming the complaint. He said state law allows a mother to breast-feed in public.
The Vermont Human Rights Commission investigates complaints and determines whether discrimination may have occurred. The parties to a complaint are given six months to reach a settlement. If none is reached, the commission then decides whether to go to court. A complainant can file a separate suit in state court at any time.
© 2006 The Associated Press.

Is this new? I remember reading another thing like this in the past couple months. I think the airlines should pay the consequences. She did nothing wrong.

VictoryGin

cincybearcat wrote:

I already took that personal responsibility earlier in the thread. I was just having fun here talking about milk jugs....baby wanna milkshake....shake that milk maker!!!!!!!!!!!

did i not put enough emocons in my response?

cincybearcat

angelica wrote:

I personally am appreciating your sense of truthfulness, deftly wrapped in irony.

And I wish I was smart enough to understand you.

I guess it shows that we need to re-educate the public what breasts are really for, huh?

cincybearcat

VictoryGin wrote:

did i not put enough emocons in my response?

Nope, I messed up and thought someone else had responded to me..not you...Sorry Milklady.

soulsinging

cincybearcat wrote:

BUt when we have to see an innocent baby going to town on some funbags...it makes us feel creepy for the way we are made to feel about hooters.

both funny and probably true... those things are sexy, they're not supposed to be fnctional. it's like the fact that i am firmly convinced women do not use the bathroom, ever. those areas are not meant for such activities!

soulsinging

angelica wrote:

Maybe I need to stop watching those trashy teen movies--you know the type where the guy has the fantasy about the "hot" girl, and it's a reworked scene out of a porno movie, essentially.

I'm never quite sure what men are thinking. I've heard numerous guys claim they love the reality of women. Many of the women I know don't buy it. As they (okay "we" ) continue to buy the products craftily marketed towards our feelings of inadequacy.

id say so. most guys i know dont much care for that super put together look. it screams "fake" and high maintenance. i know ive never gone for it and most of my guy friends are the same way. in fact, i find super models more creepy than anything else. they give me the creeps.

VictoryGin

cincybearcat wrote:

Nope, I messed up and thought someone else had responded to me..not you...Sorry Milklady.

hey don't push it

angelica

soulsinging wrote:

id say so. most guys i know dont much care for that super put together look. it screams "fake" and high maintenance. i know ive never gone for it and most of my guy friends are the same way. in fact, i find super models more creepy than anything else. they give me the creeps.

Yeah, and I'd suspect it's a tad bit of a turn off when the woman is frighteningly hyper-self-conscious of her image and with being seen from her "best angles" at every waking minute. It would kinda show she's not paying much attention to you, or getting caught up in passion.

That's why we high maintenance types need to get so drunk in order to enjoy ourselves. Just kidding! (maybe )

cincybearcat

angelica wrote:

Yeah, and I'd suspect it's a tad bit of a turn off when the woman is frighteningly hyper-self-conscious of her image and with being seen from her "best angles" at every waking minute. It would kinda show she's not paying much attention to you, or getting caught up in passion.

That's why we high maintenance types need to get so drunk in order to enjoy ourselves. Just kidding! (maybe )

Speaking of this...and the fact that women just love to talk bad about other women and judge them in all aspects of their lives...

Who here thinks the flight attendant was a woman...and she had the lady kciked off the flight because she was jealous of her perfectly round, firm, supple breasts?

angelica

mookie9999 wrote:

I see where you are coming from and agree that a mother must do whatever action is necessary to protect their child. However wasn't the blanket a solution? She was not asked to stop breast feeding, but rather to cover up.

If you and I are at cross purposes-- say we adamantly disagree on an issue, let's say you come up with what you see as a solution. If that "solution" is unacceptable to me then it's not a solution. Solutions solve problems. When the problem continues and one party is not satisfied with an outcome the problem is not solved.

The basis of negotiation is that each person's base position is accepted. And concessions are made voluntarily. One cannot impose a solution on another because if it is opposed, it is not a solution but rather an imaginary solution.

In this case it sounds like you think that because to you the blanket would be a valid solution, then you expect that to work across the board, irregardless of the other person's obvious non-acceptance of it as a solution.