Chris Cornell - Long Gone

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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I'll say this much: the slower songs are a LOT more tolerable than the fast songs. I don't know why, maybe they fit his voice better. Or maybe it's the lack of yelping in the background. I just don't know. :D
    his voice can fit anything... it sounds great on all these tracks... thats the saddest part... ok maybe not "great"... it seems like hes holding back alot... i know hes got more power

    the black guy speaking break down part in "scream" is almost as stupid as "is this mic on?"

    i cant get over how generic these drum beats are! and when they try to mix it up at all it just sounds like the record is skipping... its nothing different
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    facepollution wrote:
    I agree, I would even go to the point of saying that I rather like Scream, the music isn't spectacular, but the vocals are damn good. Watch Out still irritates the living shit out of me.
    I wouldn't go so far as to say I particularly like any of them. Maybe some of them will work better live, with better instrumentation - but I can see with near certainty that I won't like Watch Out or Ground Zero. Ever.
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    facepollution wrote:
    I agree, I would even go to the point of saying that I rather like Scream, the music isn't spectacular, but the vocals are damn good. Watch Out still irritates the living shit out of me.
    "silence is golden" actually applies quite well to my feelings about this album
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I wouldn't go so far as to say I particularly like any of them. Maybe some of them will work better live, with better instrumentation - but I can see with near certainty that I won't like Watch Out or Ground Zero. Ever.

    I don't think Ground Zero is awful, again the music is a bit shit, but I kind of don't mind the melody, and I totally agree with the subject matter he's singing about (how Bush and co. used 911 as an excuse to do a lot of fucked up shit).
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    sgossard3 wrote:
    his voice can fit anything... it sounds great on all these tracks... thats the saddest part... ok maybe not "great"... it seems like hes holding back alot... i know hes got more power

    the black guy speaking break down part in "scream" is almost as stupid as "is this mic on?"

    i cant get over how generic these drum beats are! and when they try to mix it up at all it just sounds like the record is skipping... its nothing different
    It really is just "Cornell does pop", which is disappointing, cos it's not even very good pop. I was hoping he'd really let loose now that he's got his voice back in great shape - give us something approaching the power of Say Hello 2 Heaven or Let Me Drown, even if the music is completely different. But as much talent as the man inarguably has, it looks like it's mostly wasted on this album - or at least these 5 tracks.

    And yeah, the break down made me cry a little on the inside.
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    facepollution wrote:
    I don't think Ground Zero is awful, again the music is a bit shit, but I kind of don't mind the melody, and I totally agree with the subject matter he's singing about (how Bush and co. used 911 as an excuse to do a lot of fucked up shit).
    hes not with the rage boyz anymore... he doesnt have to pretend to care about politics or anything outside his lil comfort bubble... it always struck me as insincere with audioslave and its no different here
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  • muppet
    muppet Posts: 980
    SO CHRIS, SING THAT SECOND VERSE!

    Jesus H Christ
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    What's most infuriating about this is the fact that this record is blatantly going to sell a shit load, which means there may be more to come......
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    facepollution wrote:
    What's most infuriating about this is the fact that this record is blatantly going to sell a shit load, which means there may be more to come......
    Yeah, then we'll see how set Cornell is on never making the same album twice, and making sure he's in control of all the decisions in his music. It might be hard to pass up making another million sales on solo records with lyrics written by hired goons. ;)
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    muppet wrote:
    SO CHRIS, SING THAT SECOND VERSE!

    Jesus H Christ

    I missed that part when I first listened to it, for fuck sake - that sounds ridiculous! And now it's going to ruin possibly the only song I really like on the album :(
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    facepollution wrote:
    What's most infuriating about this is the fact that this record is blatantly going to sell a shit load, which means there may be more to come......
    you really think so? we should atleast start a sharing community here on the pit to assure no one BUYS it... one person can d/l it and then make it available via mediafire for those with a morbid interest

    i dont think people that simply like timbalands past work will just run out and buy this though... especially if they take the time to look at cornells past work... hopefully thatll turn off casual fans
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Yeah, then we'll see how set Cornell is on never making the same album twice, and making sure he's in control of all the decisions in his music. It might be hard to pass up making another million sales on solo records with lyrics written by hired goons. ;)

    I think it's the fame he craves, I don't think money really comes into it since he already has boat loads of it! I remeber reading an interview back when he was with Audioslave and he said something about how he still felt the need to be up there (on stage) with people watching him, kind of an attention thing.
  • Marie Curie
    Marie Curie Posts: 1,250
    facepollution wrote:
    What's most infuriating about this is the fact that this record is blatantly going to sell a shit load, which means there may be more to come......

    I still have faith that this will not happen. When you start making this type of music, you are not only selling music, but also selling an image. An image that Chris does not have. To the kids who buy this type of music, he's just a 44 year old guy that they never heard of before, that's not cool, it's creepy. he's no Justin Timberlake

    Also, did you listen to the interview? The comparisons to Pink Floyd are getting ridiculous. Does he really think this is a modern day DSOTM? He's out of his mind! Pink Floyd should reunite with Roger Waters to go kick his ass for saying shit like that.
    “Life is life everywhere. Life is in ourselves and not outside us. There will be men beside me, and the important thing is to be a man among men and to remain a man always, whatever the misfortunes, not to despair and not to fall - that is the aim of life, that is its purpose.”
    Fyodor Dostoyevsky
  • Edved82
    Edved82 Ireland Posts: 1,279
    After listening to those 5 songs, I think a part of me died a little. Horrible.
    "...though my problems are meaningless....that don't make them go away...."
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    sgossard3 wrote:
    you really think so? we should atleast start a sharing community here on the pit to assure no one BUYS it... one person can d/l it and then make it available via mediafire for those with a morbid interest

    i dont think people that simply like timbalands past work will just run out and buy this though... especially if they take the time to look at cornells past work... hopefully thatll turn off casual fans

    Oh totally, it ticks all the boxes for Timbaland fans, and let's not forget, that guy is fucking hugely famous. You only have to look at how he took a boy band gimp like Timberlake and a folky-pop singer like Nelly Furtado and turned them into these 'cutting edge' pop stars.
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    facepollution wrote:
    I think it's the fame he craves, I don't think money really comes into it since he already has boat loads of it! I remeber reading an interview back when he was with Audioslave and he said something about how he still felt the need to be up there (on stage) with people watching him, kind of an attention thing.
    Which is still an absolutely absurd reason to go in this direction - did he think the millions of fans he played to on his last tour would just give up on him if he made another rock record? I know some this is just bitterness on my part cos of the sucky music, but it's like he's trading the proper, enduring fame he had with his loyal fans for the fickle, flavour-of-the-month fame that Timbaland might give him. :(
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  • OffHeGoes132
    OffHeGoes132 Posts: 594
    facepollution wrote:
    What's most infuriating about this is the fact that this record is blatantly going to sell a shit load, which means there may be more to come......

    This is precisely what I'm worried about as well. But like Marie Curie said, I'm also holding out hope that the whole image thing will prevent further monstrosities such as this collaboration. I'm sure though that this will be his best selling solo album, sadly.

    I must admit that the vocals are really good, but you can hardly tell with the shit effects and the even shittier music. And yes the Timbo talking after the first verse of Scream made me want to punch somebody for no reason.
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    OffHeGoes132 wrote:
    This is precisely what I'm worried about as well. But like Marie Curie said, I'm also holding out hope that the whole image thing will prevent further monstrosities such as this collaboration. I'm sure though that this will be his best selling solo album, sadly.

    I must admit that the vocals are really good, but you can hardly tell with the shit effects and the even shittier music. And yes the Timbo talking after the first verse of Scream made me want to punch somebody for no reason.
    The stupidity of the whole damn thing is a good enough reason. Punches all round! :p
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Marie Curie wrote:
    I still have faith that this will not happen. When you start making this type of music, you are not only selling music, but also selling an image. An image that Chris does not have. To the kids who buy this type of music, he's just a 44 year old guy that they never heard of before, that's not cool, it's creepy. he's no Justin Timberlake

    Also, did you listen to the interview? The comparisons to Pink Floyd are getting ridiculous. Does he really think this is a modern day DSOTM? He's out of his mind! Pink Floyd should reunite with Roger Waters to go kick his ass for saying shit like that.

    Have you not seen the recent photo shots of him? Be fair to the guy, he's not exactly ugly and could pass for being a good few years younger than he is, you can see some of them here: http://chriscornell.org.uk/news.htm

    All it will take is for some cheesy video for Long Gone and I'm sure teenage girls the world over will be lapping it up!

    And yeah I absolutely agree about the Pink Floyd comparisons - fucking outrageous! It's like he's trying to placate the 'rock' fans by dropping that name, when in reality the similarities are tenuous to say the least!
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    facepollution wrote:
    Have you not seen the recent photo shots of him? Be fair to the guy, he's not exactly ugly and could pass for being a good few years younger than he is, you can see some of them here: http://chriscornell.org.uk/news.htm

    All it will take is for some cheesy video for Long Gone and I'm sure teenage girls the world over will be lapping it up!

    And yeah I absolutely agree about the Pink Floyd comparisons - fucking outrageous! It's like he's trying to placate the 'rock' fans by dropping that name, when in reality the similarities are tenuous to say the least!
    Exactly - my friend's first reaction was that Chris looked like Johnny Depp in that pic with the scarf. Plus, what Timbaland-loving teenage girl - the clear target demographic of this album - has even heard of Soundgarden? And even the ones who've heard of Audioslave won't associate the name Chris Cornell with them, most likely.

    And let's not forget the possibility of a Billie Jean duet with David Cook. :eek:
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