Cobain was a wingeing prick!!

My abiding memory of Kurt was him moaning in interviews, and pretending he liked Shonen Knife, who were as horrible as Clive James in stockings and suspenders.

Then he died, and shops in Sunderland that usually sold poor quality posters of East 17 and Take That had a couple of Kurts in their window.

jamie uk wrote:

Bang on Fins. Shitty pictures all over matket stalls....RIP, all that shit. I even saw a t-shirt for sale in Spain recently with pics of Lennon,Hendrix , Marley...and Cobain!! "they all met in heaven" was the caption, I mean 3 icons, 3 sadly passed from chronic illness, addiction and murder..and then that moaning twat!!! Leave it out! Over rated, over blown, over opinionated, and over indulgent in the extreme!!!!!
Pearl Jam rocks.... They did then....and they do now.
juk

Um, I'm a HUGE Hendrix fan. He overdosed.

jamie uk wrote:

OK, I said it 'out loud'. But I remember it like this... I heard Nirvana in 1991, thought they were very special. I heard PJ early 1992, instantly I preffered what they did-more rock than punk, but every bit as special. I still loved Nirvana, but Cobain went on that anti-PJ thing for ages, and he got right up my fuckin nose. I didn't even buy a ticket for the gig sheduled at Cardiff in 1994, I'd seen them allready and wasn't feeling the need to see the whingeing fucker again. He dissed Ed so much in the press, I ended up really disliking the tosser. I still loved his records, still do -even tho' they aint as good as PJ's- yet I thought he became a right fanny. I know Ed forgave him, but I wouldn't have-and indeeed I haven't really. I still think of him as a great artist who offered so much, yet counteracted his vision with his 'blinkered and judgemental' views and opinions of others. I couldn't stand the sight of the prick and his PJ moans by the time he did what he did! Sorry to Ed, I know you accepted his apology-but I didn't, and I thought in 92 as I do now, that Pearl Jam are a finer band than Nirvana-and it's been proven I reckon, so screw him!!.
juk
wHAT YOU RECKON?
RSVP.

what do i reckon? i reckon it's not your place to 'forgive' cobain comments he directed at someone else.
and big woop that cobain dissed eddie and pj. hell, even i've done that and it's no big thing. the fact that he did it in the media is neither here nor there. if eddie had have been half the man you all take him to be, he would have fucked cobain up good for being a douche. instead he sat there and took it cause he knew deep down that cobain was right. oh sure you can say cobain's outburst should not have been dignified or legitimised with retorts from ed or anyone else pj related. but seriously, the hunger for success outweighed everything else including any residual integrity eddie possessed coming into seattle. you've all heard him whinge about shit he would have done differently. now we're all older(eddie too) it's all just irrelevant shit that has no real meaning to anything anymore. nor is it reflective(probably) of who eddie is as a person now. you're young, you say stupid shit, do dumbarse things. then you grow up and mature and look back and think what a dick you were. perhaps had cobain lived longer he would have come to the same conclusion. perhaps not.

Saturnal wrote:

My advice: Separate the art from the artist...you'll leave yourself open to a lot more that way.

Well said!

i opened this thread hoping to get some insight on what "wingeing " means.

catefrances wrote:

what do i reckon? i reckon it's not your place to 'forgive' cobain comments he directed at someone else.
and big woop that cobain dissed eddie and pj. hell, even i've done that and it's no big thing. the fact that he did it in the media is neither here nor there. if eddie had have been half the man you all take him to be, he would have fucked cobain up good for being a douche. instead he sat there and took it cause he knew deep down that cobain was right. oh sure you can say cobain's outburst should not have been dignified or legitimised with retorts from ed or anyone else pj related. but seriously, the hunger for success outweighed everything else including any residual integrity eddie possessed coming into seattle. you've all heard him whinge about shit he would have done differently. now we're all older(eddie too) it's all just irrelevant shit that has no real meaning to anything anymore. nor is it reflective(probably) of who eddie is as a person now. you're young, you say stupid shit, do dumbarse things. then you grow up and mature and look back and think what a dick you were. perhaps had cobain lived longer he would have come to the same conclusion. perhaps not.

Look. if Cobain was around now he would have regretted everything he said. He DID carry on like a an idiot. That's a FACT. But nobody remembers that because his death has overshadowed everything he had said...

Looking back at some of those old interviews, he was sooo cheesy, the typical big headed rock star. He was getting outsold and could'nt handle it. Ed and Pearl Jam did not say a public word about Nirvana or Kurt (or at least I did'nt hear anything, if they did i'd love hear it!) and I think at the time, at least from what I remember of it, people were beginning to see Kurt in negative light because of his comments. His death then superceded all of this. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

The rivalry between PJ and Nirvana began and ended with Kurt. Why he did this nobody will ever know for sure...Why he married Courtney, nobody will ever know for sure...my guess is he was a publicity whore who demanded to be the centre of attention, somebody who would do anything to be noticed, hell the guy killed himself...commited suicide...to quote ED, "the center of his own attention"!

elmer wrote:

ed was quoted spewing silliness back in the day too, especially after cobains death.

What silliness? Seriously, I like know what you mean by that!

elmer wrote:

its not like cobain was a happy soul & his final action confirmed that at least there was integrity to his whinging.

Personally, I think his actions prove that he was devoid of integrity!

walkthamile wrote:

What silliness? Seriously, I like know what you mean by that!

moaning about his fucked up childhood and just his general moaning.
after cobains death there was the interview where he said pj may not play for a long time and he complained about the pressure he was under yada yada, well at the time I thought it was hilarious but now I would cringe.

I don't have a problem with Nirvana, but anyone who kills themselves and leaves a child behind is a selfish, weak and pathetic example of a human being.