PLEASE NO SENIORITY FOR NEXT TOUR

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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,946
    ive changed my mind....

    make the first 40 rows lottery....................
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    seniority?????

    It is what it is.....and to me it seems the best way to hand out the tickets....

    I would love for every 17-21 year old kid who has just discovered the band, to be able to sit within the first 10 rows. But its just not going to happen.

    I myself would have no problem if they made the first 20 rows part of a lottery system. But then you would have a bunch of fans screaming and yelling, because they have been in the 10club for 15 years and they are "entitled" to their front row seats. Limiting the amount of shows one could attend using 10club tickets would also be an option. But then again, you would have a bunch of fans who have been 10club members for 15 years, whining and crying, because they feel they are "entitled" to their front row seats.

    Well, its not just having discovered them through guitar hero, its having listened to them for 5/6 years and gone to a different continent to see them, i wouldn't be supportive of young people who just know even flow and alive to get in the first 10 rows!
  • PJ_Lukin
    PJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    I think they should strengthen the seniority rules for PJ shows. Let's make it if you have not been in the 10c for more than 5 years, you are not eligible for 10c tix at all. Then after 5 years, like the Bloods,Crips, Latin Kings and Hells Angels, you have to go through an initiation and prove your loyalty. ;)
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  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    It's also anoying that here are people with kick ass numbers but just waste them as they dont like pj as much anymore.
  • funnygirl
    funnygirl Posts: 529
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    I think they should strengthen the seniority rules for PJ shows. Let's make it if you have not been in the 10c for more than 5 years, you are not eligible for 10c tix at all. Then after 5 years, like the Bloods,Crips, Latin Kings and Hells Angels, you have to go through an initiation and prove your loyalty. ;)

    I agree....an initiation! I'd be happy to take a whipping for PJ any day! :D
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,853
    funnygirl wrote:
    I'd be happy to take a whipping for PJ any day! :D

    Whoa mama! :shock:
  • smak
    smak Posts: 241
    How about if you're less than 150,000 you get 2 seats up front for the price of one, so you can stretch a little, and if you're 300,000+ you have to buy everybody below 150,000 two beers to just be able to walk in the venue.
  • funnygirl
    funnygirl Posts: 529
    smak wrote:
    How about if you're less than 150,000 you get 2 seats up front for the price of one, so you can stretch a little, and if you're 300,000+ you have to buy everybody below 150,000 two beers to just be able to walk in the venue.

    :lol:
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    smak wrote:
    How about if you're less than 150,000 you get 2 seats up front for the price of one, so you can stretch a little, and if you're 300,000+ you have to buy everybody below 150,000 two beers to just be able to walk in the venue.

    I like it. Those latecomers should be grateful we even let them into the venue to see our band.
  • the Chad
    the Chad Posts: 65
    I just want another tour!!

    As far as seniority goes, I think it is good right now the lottery up front and rows 9 + 10, I think it shakes it up
    a bit. I would like to see the band/10 club do whatever they want, and I will show up and rock out!

    One comment, my best seats ever were 2nd row in San Diego in 2006, the folks up there barely had a pulse, no kidding. It was like trees with no wind. Maybe it should be a bit more random?
  • JM27548
    JM27548 Posts: 43
    ...this argument again :roll:
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,814
    member # 27xxx here most of you know how i feel about seniority :mrgreen:
    that being said this low number does shit for me unless i can score tickets example i was shut out for both MSG shows here in my home state ,i did end up with scoring tickets to Hartford & Mansfield with this # and was rewarded great seats ....i don't mind the lottery system .
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    I think they should strengthen the seniority rules for PJ shows. Let's make it if you have not been in the 10c for more than 5 years, you are not eligible for 10c tix at all. Then after 5 years, like the Bloods,Crips, Latin Kings and Hells Angels, you have to go through an initiation and prove your loyalty. ;)

    I just watched part of a show about LA gangs on national geographic last night- I am curious what the initiation would be.

    One of the saddest and funniest things I have ever seen by the way.
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  • PJ_Lukin
    PJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    funnygirl wrote:
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    I think they should strengthen the seniority rules for PJ shows. Let's make it if you have not been in the 10c for more than 5 years, you are not eligible for 10c tix at all. Then after 5 years, like the Bloods,Crips, Latin Kings and Hells Angels, you have to go through an initiation and prove your loyalty. ;)

    I agree....an initiation! I'd be happy to take a whipping for PJ any day! :D
    I am starting to worry about you....... :shock:
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  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    They did what I recommended they do for years. Random few rows up front. It's been working great!

    If you're one of the lucky couple hundred who are in those hundreds of seats, great! Why punish those who have been the most loyal, and paying them dues CONSISTENTLY? They have a staff they have to pay for, and they pay them with our dues and other revenue.

    Some fans hop on the "membership" bandwagon when they hear a tour is eminent. That's fine for them, but I say reward those who are consistently paying up. They've already done the lottery, and I think that's enough. Lottery winners cut all the way to the front, and it's a fair system.

    I wouldn't mind if they went back to having tickets given out based on when they received your money order in the mail, but those days are over.
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  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    why do people care so much about being up close!
    be greatful that you are in the arena, and be thankful that you didn't have to fight with ticketbastard to get tickets!
    i have a shit number, but who cares, it got be decent seats at msg last year!

    i am all for GA like europe, i guess i just like rocking out up front with a mad crowd, and the all day line ups!
    you rock out with all your friends, not just 1 ;):lol:

    senior members have had all the chance in the last 18 years to see them up front, let other members down there! the band sure likes a change of faces!
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    NoelMichael wrote:
    2 reasons: First, think of the new fans to the band that'll jump onboard with the rerelease-- every new fan has very little chance of seeing the band up close. If I was a new fan, I'd be disappointed. That being said, I've loved the band since year 1, but my number is in the upper 300K. I only joined the club a few years ago because my ex-gf had a low number. After seeing Ed play solo at NJPAC last year, it was absolutely breathtaking to see my favorite singer only 13 rows back. It sucks that I will probably never see them so close again. No seniority worked well for the Ed solo shows, let's do it again for the whole band.
    ...
    All I have to say is this...
    If you have been a fan since 1991 and have been sponging off of your Ex's Memebership... well, I don't have a lot of sympathy for you. you have had more than ample time to get your own membership... or marry the gal... but, you didn't. Why should anyone with a 299,999 and below be pushed back due to your poor decision.. or indecision?
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  • TouringFan2000
    TouringFan2000 Posts: 305
    Gotta lodge my vote FOR SENIORITY. It's one of the reasons I joined the 10C all those years ago.
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  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    You're joking, right? No offense to any potential "new fans" but, and to quote Ed Vedder, "fuck 'em." :)

    I didn't get to go to any shows last tour, but I think the current system with rows 1, 2, 9, and 10 (is that right) as random jackpot rows is awesome. People used to complain about the same old people constantly being in front row, so this puts that to rest, and keeps the people who should be close up, still close up. Friend of mine has a number in the ten-thousands and got 3rd row last tour. That means under the old system he would have been in 1st row, but he said seeing the reaction of the lottery winners when they sat down in the first row was worth it to be two rows back. I've been front row, and it's great. But my number is in the low one hundred thousands, so the chance that I might get in the front 1 or 2 rows is appealing. I got mostly single digits in '03 (hovered around 6th row for quite a few shows), '06 I was further back and it was all general in San Francisco. The next show I get to attend should be pretty great seats, and you have the chance of being super close.

    Some punk teenager who happened to get into Pearl Jam cause they were on Rock Band or whatever... making everyone who's paid their $20 (or $15 or $10 or $5 a year since the 90s) for 10+ years equal with the "new fans"...I don't think so. There would literally be a revolt at the shows. :lol: They are lucky to get as good of a chance at tickets as they will. And hey, they have a chance at front row too... but not equal, and "no seniority." No offense, but horrible idea.
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  • PJ Fan est. 1990
    PJ Fan est. 1990 Posts: 1,788
    my school (i'm in highschool) is having the same problem with parking...there are only X number amount of spots and they are all taken...now only seniors can park on campus...there are students who turn 17 (the age in NY when a kid can get his/her liscence) later in the year can't get a parking spot...

    the solution we've come up with but still working out the bugs before it's implemented is that there will be a lottery held 4 times (once for each marking period) so that every student gets a chance.)

    i'm not suggesting PJ do that...but only having a membership since december i fall on both sides of 2 similar situations (i have a parking spot)...so what i do suggest is at smaller venues seniority remains the status quo (if i spelled that right) and for the larger venues like arenas, i.e. MSG, it's all first come first serve so a high # can sit next to a low # in the front row sharing the same and fair experience

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