PLEASE NO SENIORITY FOR NEXT TOUR

Porters Dad

PJammer4life wrote:

As a long time fan 156XXX I have slowly moved up to be first 10-15 rows most shows. I never bitched that some were in the front..where is this coming from?? I'd rather go back to GA floor and fight for the front like in 1994/1995 than give up my seat cause you just discovered the band. I can accept a row 1/2 9/10 lotto..cause I might win or lose, but giving up senority is a bad idea.

My thoughts exactly. I'm kickin it at 182xxx and have been paying dues for 10 years...

This argument makes no sense...if I joined the Stones fanclub today, I would have to be an absolute donkey to think I should get better 'benefits' than a member thats been in the club longer than I've been alive...

You've got the lottery, I believe that was a great addition to the ticketing service.

Consider yourselves lucky that they've put the lottery into effect...

PJFAN_seattle

Ugh seniority makes me really wish my parents had stayed members - things were tough financially
Now we have high 400xxx
I think seniority is fair to the older people who are fans but being up close would be pretty cool

Ryan_WFC

If there was no seniority, a lot of scalpers would join the 10-C and have as good a shot at great seats as a 20-year fan. And, just as bad, there'd be nothing stopping actual fan club members selling great seats for big bucks.

The rules as they stand now ensure the most "real" fans in the good seats. If your number sucks, befriend someone with a better one, and scour the board the weeks/days leading up to the show(s).

3legged dog

NoelMichael wrote:

2 reasons: First, think of the new fans to the band that'll jump onboard with the rerelease-- every new fan has very little chance of seeing the band up close. If I was a new fan, I'd be disappointed. That being said, I've loved the band since year 1, but my number is in the upper 300K. I only joined the club a few years ago because my ex-gf had a low number. After seeing Ed play solo at NJPAC last year, it was absolutely breathtaking to see my favorite singer only 13 rows back. It sucks that I will probably never see them so close again. No seniority worked well for the Ed solo shows, let's do it again for the whole band.

Where the hell do you find a pearl jam lego's people? I like the avatar...lol

Thorns2010

surforia wrote:

PJammer4life wrote:

As a long time fan 156XXX I have slowly moved up to be first 10-15 rows most shows. I never bitched that some were in the front..where is this coming from?? I'd rather go back to GA floor and fight for the front like in 1994/1995 than give up my seat cause you just discovered the band. I can accept a row 1/2 9/10 lotto..cause I might win or lose, but giving up senority is a bad idea.

I'm a 106XXX, and I'd rather have GA again, as well... nothing like a pit to see who really belongs up front... problem is that lots of PJ fans don't understand the concept of GA... Fact is, when Lukin comes on, and some fans want to start a circle pit, you have some loser crying that "somebody is pushing me." STFU! If you don't like it, move back!

Remind me to never go to concert with you.

BeerBaron

100 Pacer wrote:

i support the current 10C seniority system, with the random lottery in place for rows 1-2 and 9-10,...

As do I.

It is pretty obvious that those who want to completely do away with seniority have bad 10C numbers and those who want to keep complete seniority without the lottery have very good numbers. I thought the lottery was a nice middle-ground between the two, but I guess some people just want it all.

ScottandPearlJam

soulsinging wrote:

EBowie wrote:

benjs wrote:

There's no easy solution here because everyone, myself included, wants what's best for them; and what's best for people like me with numbers in the 357xxx, is worse for people like you who signed up 13 years ago.

Which is exactly why it should stay the same

I've got a better argument for why it should change:

Grand Rapids '06

After a few interviews where the band mentions feeling a bit weirded out about seeing the exact same people up front at every show, the seating "mysteriously" is decided totally at random. The result? The band, amped by the energy of all those incredibly excited, energetic, and appreciative fans up front, plays the most electrifying show of the tour.

Ed, was drunk when he did that interview.....we can't take him seriously

Scott

surforia

Thorns2010 wrote:

surforia wrote:

PJammer4life wrote:

As a long time fan 156XXX I have slowly moved up to be first 10-15 rows most shows. I never bitched that some were in the front..where is this coming from?? I'd rather go back to GA floor and fight for the front like in 1994/1995 than give up my seat cause you just discovered the band. I can accept a row 1/2 9/10 lotto..cause I might win or lose, but giving up senority is a bad idea.

I'm a 106XXX, and I'd rather have GA again, as well... nothing like a pit to see who really belongs up front... problem is that lots of PJ fans don't understand the concept of GA... Fact is, when Lukin comes on, and some fans want to start a circle pit, you have some loser crying that "somebody is pushing me." STFU! If you don't like it, move back!

Remind me to never go to concert with you.

Gary Carter

DPrival78 wrote:

to hell with the new "fans". i've been paying my dues for 13 years, slowly creeping closer and closer to the stage. I haven't gotten to the promised land yet, and I sure as hell don't want to be sitting behind some noob who just heard even flow on cold case.

this post is why the band has seniority and will always continue to do so. if you wanna see the band up close go to europe or south america where its ga. even australia from what i hear is good if you have a higher #. i hope they bring back the lottery syste

Ryan_WFC

BeerBaron wrote:

I thought the lottery was a nice middle-ground between the two

It is, as most here with a good number have attested.

BeerBaron

Ryan_WFC wrote:

BeerBaron wrote:

I thought the lottery was a nice middle-ground between the two

It is, as most here with a good number have attested.

Some people are never happy though. And the seniority battle will go on forever.

soulsinging

surforia wrote:

PJammer4life wrote:

As a long time fan 156XXX I have slowly moved up to be first 10-15 rows most shows. I never bitched that some were in the front..where is this coming from?? I'd rather go back to GA floor and fight for the front like in 1994/1995 than give up my seat cause you just discovered the band. I can accept a row 1/2 9/10 lotto..cause I might win or lose, but giving up senority is a bad idea.

I'm a 106XXX, and I'd rather have GA again, as well... nothing like a pit to see who really belongs up front... problem is that lots of PJ fans don't understand the concept of GA... Fact is, when Lukin comes on, and some fans want to start a circle pit, you have some loser crying that "somebody is pushing me." STFU! If you don't like it, move back!

Amen to that. I'm all for GA. My biggest gripe about being on the floor is that every venue I've ever been to seems to have the smallest, most cramped seats possible set up on the floor. A normal sized guy could never sit in that chair... they're not meant to be placed the way they place them on the floor. I'm not a fan of having to hold my breath for an entire show for fear of knocking the guy next to me's beer all over us both.

That said, I'd probably hang by the back... I'm too old for a pit!

FrankieJ

Everyone with a good number is going to want to keep seniority and everyone with a bad # is gonna want to do a entire lottery.

I got 426,xxx Therefore i obviously want a lottery, but i doubt it will happen.

TheDecline13

Two Words: FUCK YOU!


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mfc2006

TheDecline13 wrote:

Two Words: FUCK YOU!
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beiting

Then what's the point of seniority if you're not going to be rewarded for it? I have a somewhat low number 123XXX - and I've been blessed to be front row center for Lexington 2003 -- and when I went to see them in Cincinnati in 2006 I had good seats, but they were also the worst ones I've ever gotten through the 10c -- not that I am bitching. I am happy I get to be closer than most.

I think what happened for me is that it use to be you got two tickets... period. You could get two to one show, or one ticket for two shows. This allowed people to be at the best possible spot for their shows... that kept people with really low numbers to be in the first two rows for each and every show. Personally I liked that. What I use to do was get three buddies and we'd each buy a show, then we would have the best seats we each could get for that show... it worked out great.

I am in full support of the lottery if it circulates people at each show, I just know that nowadays I don't have the time to go to 6 shows on a tour, much less money to spend on shows with mortgages, doggies, and being a grown up.

I'm just happy that after being in the 10c for 13 years I've gotten to see some great shows, I've had picks given to me from Mike, and have met Stone... Some of my favorite memories are from seeing the boys do their thing.

jecica

Please remember that not everyone is able to get 10C seats. It is possible for members with a low number to get shut out and the crowd could be made up of 300XXX and higher. Not likely, but with more new members trying, it's going to be harder to get them.

Gary Carter

jecica wrote:

Please remember that not everyone is able to get 10C seats. It is possible for members with a low number to get shut out and the crowd could be made up of 300XXX and higher. Not likely, but with more new members trying, it's going to be harder to get them.

it could be but then again i think they could do something as a way for that not to happen

BeerBaron

metsfan wrote:

jecica wrote:

Please remember that not everyone is able to get 10C seats. It is possible for members with a low number to get shut out and the crowd could be made up of 300XXX and higher. Not likely, but with more new members trying, it's going to be harder to get them.

it could be but then again i think they could do something as a way for that not to happen

And what would that be?

pjsteelerfan

BeerBaron wrote:

metsfan wrote:

jecica wrote:

Please remember that not everyone is able to get 10C seats. It is possible for members with a low number to get shut out and the crowd could be made up of 300XXX and higher. Not likely, but with more new members trying, it's going to be harder to get them.

it could be but then again i think they could do something as a way for that not to happen

And what would that be?

this will never happen, but let 10c members buy as many tickets as they want to a place for a certain amount of time- say 2 or 3 days, then after that, the rest of the seats go to the general public. You could still have the 1/2 and 9/10 row lottery and seniority. But Ticketmaster will never let this happen since it would kill their scalpers they make so much money off of. The new lottery system is the best thing they can do.