PLEASE NO SENIORITY FOR NEXT TOUR

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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,045
    shell bell wrote:
    I've now benn in the 10cc for 12 years and not one time have I been in the front. Some first time members have tho. So I would love to have the chance to be in the front couple of rows at least one time. The closest I've been 6th row center in Missouls,MT in 03.

    And my number is 131xxx
    you dont consider 6th row up front??????

    6th row wasnt close enough????
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,923
    With a 416XXX 10c number, I'm pretty happy with the current system. The fact that those with higher numbers get the chance to sit in row 1-2 and 9-10 is awesome. I wouldnt mind seeing the random lottery expanded to a few more rows like speedy mccready mentioned above. But that would lead to the usual shitstorm of complaints. I think the system they have now is as fair as it can be to everybody.

    Just wondering....I havent used 10c tickets for an actual PJ show yet. Only one of the EV solo shows and got hooked up pretty nice. What type of tickets would I be looking at with a number as high as mine???
    with your number.....you may be surprised....

    you may get "wing seats"....on the side of the venue.....

    that turn out to be kick ass seats!!!!

    i have had "wing seats" in the 1st row a couple of times.......both on mikes side.....

    even if you end up 10-20 rows up on the side......its still a great seat.............

    I've always wanted to have "wing seats". Especially on Mike's side. That would be great.

    But either way, I'll definitely be looking at seats in the lower level, right?
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    With a 416XXX 10c number, I'm pretty happy with the current system. The fact that those with higher numbers get the chance to sit in row 1-2 and 9-10 is awesome. I wouldnt mind seeing the random lottery expanded to a few more rows like speedy mccready mentioned above. But that would lead to the usual shitstorm of complaints. I think the system they have now is as fair as it can be to everybody.

    Just wondering....I havent used 10c tickets for an actual PJ show yet. Only one of the EV solo shows and got hooked up pretty nice. What type of tickets would I be looking at with a number as high as mine???
    with your number.....you may be surprised....

    you may get "wing seats"....on the side of the venue.....

    that turn out to be kick ass seats!!!!

    i have had "wing seats" in the 1st row a couple of times.......both on mikes side.....

    even if you end up 10-20 rows up on the side......its still a great seat.............

    I agree, wing seats are much better than being 30 or more rows back on the floor in an arena.
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    With a 416XXX 10c number, I'm pretty happy with the current system. The fact that those with higher numbers get the chance to sit in row 1-2 and 9-10 is awesome. I wouldnt mind seeing the random lottery expanded to a few more rows like speedy mccready mentioned above. But that would lead to the usual shitstorm of complaints. I think the system they have now is as fair as it can be to everybody.

    Just wondering....I havent used 10c tickets for an actual PJ show yet. Only one of the EV solo shows and got hooked up pretty nice. What type of tickets would I be looking at with a number as high as mine???
    with your number.....you may be surprised....

    you may get "wing seats"....on the side of the venue.....

    that turn out to be kick ass seats!!!!

    i have had "wing seats" in the 1st row a couple of times.......both on mikes side.....

    even if you end up 10-20 rows up on the side......its still a great seat.............

    I've always wanted to have "wing seats". Especially on Mike's side. That would be great.

    But either way, I'll definitely be looking at seats in the lower level, right?
    Pretty much yes in an arena
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  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    My .02, in case anyone cares.

    Keep the seniority, unless they want a mass exodus of paying 10c members because I bet that is the only reason why a lot of them stick around.

    I liked the lottery idea on the last tour. Even though I went to three 2008 shows and didn't win I knew people that did and they were very excited about it. I thought it was a neat way to mix it up.

    Another idea I have liked and hasn't happened yet is this: When they play a two night stand in one city, make the 1st show completey seniority based and the 2nd show completely lottery, and I mean all rows not just 1-2 and 9-10. Do that everywhere you play two shows.
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    edited March 2009
    Flagg wrote:
    My .02, in case anyone cares.

    Keep the seniority, unless they want a mass exodus of paying 10c members because I bet that is the only reason why a lot of them stick around.

    I liked the lottery idea on the last tour. Even though I went to three 2008 shows and didn't win I knew people that did and they were very excited about it. I thought it was a neat way to mix it up.

    Another idea I have liked and hasn't happened yet is this: When they play a two night stand in one city, make the 1st show completey seniority based and the 2nd show completely lottery, and I mean all rows not just 1-2 and 9-10. Do that everywhere you play two shows.

    Or even have one of the shows where 10c members can but as many seats as they can sell before the rest go to the public
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,045
    fuck me....

    i thought it would be MONTHS before i got myself involved in these threads.....hehehehehehe


    all i know is this time around......

    im gonna go to a few shows.....
    im gonna hang out with a certain few people....
    im gonna go do some sightseeing in whatever city im visiting....
    hopefully i will get together with some friends and have a barbeque or go out for a nice dinner....
    maybe meet some wives,husbands,kids,boyfriends and girlfriends of those friends.....

    Im not hanging out in a parking lot for 4 hours....
    im not watching people get drunk and pass out in the parking lot.....
    im not discussing 10club seats with anyone....
    if anyone asks me "where are you sitting???"....i may get violent!!!! hehehehehehehe
    if anyone asks me to donate to a charity.....i may get violent!!!! hehehehehehe
    Im not hanging out in any bar for 4 hours.....

    im just going to go visit a city and then spend 2-3 hours at a concert.....

    and then wake up the next morning and go on with my life.....hehehehehe


    or maybe ill just stay home...........
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  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Thanks Funny Girl! :)

    BTW, I forgot to put in my last post that I think they should keep seniorty and the lottery (since it gives those of us with shitty seats the chance to move up) but how about expanding the lottery a few more rows?
    You give an inch and they'll try to take a mile.

    I think the two rows of lottery is more than fair, along with seniority for the rest of the fan club seating.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Solat13 wrote:
    seniority?????

    It is what it is.....and to me it seems the best way to hand out the tickets....

    I would love for every 17-21 year old kid who has just discovered the band, to be able to sit within the first 10 rows. But its just not going to happen.

    I myself would have no problem if they made the first 20 rows part of a lottery system. But then you would have a bunch of fans screaming and yelling, because they have been in the 10club for 15 years and they are "entitled" to their front row seats. Limiting the amount of shows one could attend using 10club tickets would also be an option. But then again, you would have a bunch of fans who have been 10club members for 15 years, whining and crying, because they feel they are "entitled" to their front row seats.

    I like the idea of limiting. When I joined in 98 you got to pick 1-2 shows to get 10c tickets to... I don't know when we became "entitled" to have primo seats to every single show on the tour.

    The unlimited shows per membership concept came into practice in support of Fanch's fav album in 2003.

    Yet more evidence that Riot Act was the downfall of this band ;)
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Flagg wrote:
    With a 416XXX 10c number, I'm pretty happy with the current system. The fact that those with higher numbers get the chance to sit in row 1-2 and 9-10 is awesome. I wouldnt mind seeing the random lottery expanded to a few more rows like speedy mccready mentioned above. But that would lead to the usual shitstorm of complaints. I think the system they have now is as fair as it can be to everybody.

    Just wondering....I havent used 10c tickets for an actual PJ show yet. Only one of the EV solo shows and got hooked up pretty nice. What type of tickets would I be looking at with a number as high as mine???
    with your number.....you may be surprised....

    you may get "wing seats"....on the side of the venue.....

    that turn out to be kick ass seats!!!!

    i have had "wing seats" in the 1st row a couple of times.......both on mikes side.....

    even if you end up 10-20 rows up on the side......its still a great seat.............

    Can back this up. Had wing seats about 15 rows up in Montreal. Some of the best seats I have ever had at 262xxx. Maybe the best.

    My friend got wing seats at Ottawa during the Canadian tour and they were the coolest thing ever. They were in the penalty box just off the floor. The tickets actually said Row: Penalty Box. PJ needs to play more hockey arenas. ;)
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  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    shell bell wrote:
    I've now benn in the 10cc for 12 years and not one time have I been in the front. Some first time members have tho. So I would love to have the chance to be in the front couple of rows at least one time. The closest I've been 6th row center in Missouls,MT in 03.

    And my number is 131xxx
    you dont consider 6th row up front??????

    6th row wasnt close enough????
    If I could lock into and forever have the 6th row - I would do it in an instant.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    with your number.....you may be surprised....

    you may get "wing seats"....on the side of the venue.....

    that turn out to be kick ass seats!!!!

    i have had "wing seats" in the 1st row a couple of times.......both on mikes side.....

    even if you end up 10-20 rows up on the side......its still a great seat.............

    I agree, wing seats are much better than being 30 or more rows back on the floor in an arena.

    Definitely. It's part of why I may let my membership lapse. I'm at the point where I'm never going to be moving any closer, so I'd just as soon buy on the side with TM. I hate those folding seats on the floor.
  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 3,000
    i was quite content with the way they did things last year, with the random drawing for seats in certain rows. after being in the 10c since 2003 and never getting ridiculously close to the stage despite being a diehard fan, it was awesome to get tenth row dead center in mansfield. not to mention the ridiculously close seats for eddie vedder that were all random anyways. id like to see that system in place again for the next tour -- best of both worlds and seems to be the one system that appeases the masses for the most part.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    I really feel sorry for the "kids".

    The younger fans who have to realize their chances of ever seeing Pearl Jam within the first 10-15 rows are basically slim and none.

    I do not feel sorry for some fan, who has seen Pearl Jam 80 times, when he says........."the lottery system is punishing me"

    actually i cant say what i think of THAT fan....because i would soon be banned..........

    I completely disagree. Those people make me weep for the injustice being done to them. Imagine them having to sit on the side with the peasantry of the fanbase! Don't we all know the band NEEDS them up in the front row because once Ed looked down and smiled at them and it was the best version of Cropduster ever played so clearly the band draws its inspiration from them...
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,045
    i was quite content with the way they did things last year, with the random drawing for seats in certain rows. after being in the 10c since 2003 and never getting ridiculously close to the stage despite being a diehard fan, it was awesome to get tenth row dead center in mansfield. not to mention the ridiculously close seats for eddie vedder that were all random anyways. id like to see that system in place again for the next tour -- best of both worlds and seems to be the one system that appeases the masses for the most part.
    i say expand the lottery....

    make the 1st 10-15 rows random......

    that would give all the newer fans a better shot of getting up close.....
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    i say expand the lottery....

    make the 1st 10-15 rows random......

    that would give all the newer fans a better shot of getting up close.....

    i'd be ok with that. i really have never seen the harm w/ the lottery system.
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 3,000
    i was quite content with the way they did things last year, with the random drawing for seats in certain rows. after being in the 10c since 2003 and never getting ridiculously close to the stage despite being a diehard fan, it was awesome to get tenth row dead center in mansfield. not to mention the ridiculously close seats for eddie vedder that were all random anyways. id like to see that system in place again for the next tour -- best of both worlds and seems to be the one system that appeases the masses for the most part.
    i say expand the lottery....

    make the 1st 10-15 rows random......

    that would give all the newer fans a better shot of getting up close.....

    well you wouldnt see me complaining there :)
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,045
    and with a 10club membership....

    does it not say that the 10club will try their best to make the best seats available to the 10club members???

    it doesnt say that you will be guaranteed anything......right????

    so NOBODY .....and i dont care if you have been a member since day 1......nobody is "entitled" to anything!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!

    give the newer, younger fans a chance to get up front.......
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  • jervin007
    jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    I have no problem with the seniority thing, and my number is around 300k. Sure, my seats aren't up super close, but I have never been disappointed. I did like the lottery last tour (even though I didn't win) and thing the band should continue with that approach.
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  • funnygirl
    funnygirl Posts: 529
    Why is everybody going crazy over this??? It's not like every member is at every show....and it's not like the newer members deserve less than the older ones.... I could see if every member was at every show, and the newer members had little to no chance at all to get great seats! In my point of view it is always a lottery...because you have no idea where you will sit...

    2 tours ago I had 5th row....last summer I had 15th....so just because I have been a member for 15 years, doesn't give me the right to expect the first couple of rows....