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dreamweaverdreamweaver New York Posts: 716
edited February 2009 in The Porch
we've all heard the one released earlier during the Lost Dogs time. from what I've heard doesn't sound like it's a new vocal track... if that's the case whats the big deal with this "new release thing" on the radio??
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Jones Beach NY 1 + 3 - '00
MSG 1 + 2 - '03
Boston Garden - '04
Montreal - '05
Boston Garden 1, Meadowlands 1 + 2 - '06
Mansfield 1 - '08
(EV solo) Boston 1 - '08
Chicago 1 - '09
MSG -'10
Brooklyn 1+2 - '13
Central Park - '15
MSG - '16
Fenway - '16
Wrigley - '16
(RRHOF) Brooklyn - '17
Fenway - '18
MSG - '22
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    red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    Well it's a marketing thing in one aspect and the opportunity allows pearl jam to have a new song (even though it's an old outake) on the radio airwaves in another aspect.
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    hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,877
    I would guess it is the older mix- remixed/mastered. They did several vocal takes as the versions from the demos/rare-unrealeased CD leak sounded differen than the rough mixes tape version.

    the LD version was an atrocity- but would have been awesome had we not heard the "real" version way before it. The vocal add such an awesome dimension.

    I hope the radios play the fuck out of it so the newbies can hear the aura in Ed and the group that has long since gone away. Ed just sounds different, younger, more energetic, more frantic.
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    dreamweaverdreamweaver New York Posts: 716
    def a polished up version.. but sounds great.. I love the sound of this song!
    Meadowlands, MSG 1, MSG 2 - '98
    Jones Beach NY 1 + 3 - '00
    MSG 1 + 2 - '03
    Boston Garden - '04
    Montreal - '05
    Boston Garden 1, Meadowlands 1 + 2 - '06
    Mansfield 1 - '08
    (EV solo) Boston 1 - '08
    Chicago 1 - '09
    MSG -'10
    Brooklyn 1+2 - '13
    Central Park - '15
    MSG - '16
    Fenway - '16
    Wrigley - '16
    (RRHOF) Brooklyn - '17
    Fenway - '18
    MSG - '22
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    Lee MLee M Posts: 142
    dreamweaver wrote:
    def a polished up version.. but sounds great.. I love the sound of this song!

    Agreed. I'm loving this song all over again.
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    veddermanvedderman Posts: 799
    are you people deaf? :shock:

    eddie recorded new vocals for this song, this vocals are present not from '91.
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    dreamweaverdreamweaver New York Posts: 716
    vedderman wrote:
    are you people deaf? :shock:

    eddie recorded new vocals for this song, this vocals are present not from '91.


    i dont think so dude, the vocals just sound spliced up and compressed.. but def not new recordings, I think your confused.
    Meadowlands, MSG 1, MSG 2 - '98
    Jones Beach NY 1 + 3 - '00
    MSG 1 + 2 - '03
    Boston Garden - '04
    Montreal - '05
    Boston Garden 1, Meadowlands 1 + 2 - '06
    Mansfield 1 - '08
    (EV solo) Boston 1 - '08
    Chicago 1 - '09
    MSG -'10
    Brooklyn 1+2 - '13
    Central Park - '15
    MSG - '16
    Fenway - '16
    Wrigley - '16
    (RRHOF) Brooklyn - '17
    Fenway - '18
    MSG - '22
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    Jammin2PearlJammin2Pearl Posts: 266
    vedderman wrote:
    are you people deaf? :shock:

    eddie recorded new vocals for this song, this vocals are present not from '91.

    these actual sound like the original demo version of the song, where he says 'sister' at times and not 'brother'
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    strummersstrummers Posts: 2,611
    Have to say - this version does rock - but I just love the instrumental version.
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    pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    WAAF in Boston is making a big deal out of this too, i dont get it...this isnt "new" and im finding this annoying for some odd reason maybe its the weather..haha
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    halszka123halszka123 Posts: 1,109
    vedderman wrote:
    are you people deaf? :shock:

    eddie recorded new vocals for this song, this vocals are present not from '91.
    For sure it's His current voice:)
    probably people are not deaf, only too excited;) to consider it
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    JedJed New York City Posts: 1,151
    it's on their myspace if you haven't heard it yet.
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    DD164485DD164485 Posts: 149
    halszka123 wrote:
    vedderman wrote:
    are you people deaf? :shock:

    eddie recorded new vocals for this song, this vocals are present not from '91.
    For sure it's His current voice:)
    probably people are not deaf, only too excited;) to consider it


    Eddie did NOT re-record the vocal.
    Brendon O'Brien has just mixed the ORIGINAL vocal track using modern equipment; which might be what you are hearing.

    Why in the hell would Eddie bother to come in and re-record his vocals to this song 20 years after the fact?
    That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense....considering he's out writing NEW SONGS for a NEW ALBUM
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,304
    halszka123 wrote:
    vedderman wrote:
    are you people deaf? :shock:

    eddie recorded new vocals for this song, this vocals are present not from '91.
    For sure it's His current voice:)
    probably people are not deaf, only too excited;) to consider it

    yep. re-recorded...just as i feared
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    arqarq Posts: 7,940
    I love this song, lyrics by eddie and music by stone?
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    arthurdentarthurdent Posts: 969
    DD164485 wrote:
    Why in the hell would Eddie bother to come in and re-record his vocals to this song 20 years after the fact?

    For exactly the same reason he had Mike butcher the song and turn it into an instrumental for LD. Apparently Ed HATES (or at the very least is extremely embarrassed by) the lyrics to this song.
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,304
    arthurdent wrote:
    DD164485 wrote:
    Why in the hell would Eddie bother to come in and re-record his vocals to this song 20 years after the fact?

    For exactly the same reason he had Mike butcher the song and turn it into an instrumental for LD. Apparently Ed HATES (or at the very least is extremely embarrassed by) the lyrics to this song.

    maybe he just hates his voice from back then, cause he re-recorded vocals on a number of tracks for lost dogs.
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,304
    Jed wrote:
    it's on their myspace if you haven't heard it yet.

    bunch of stuff from the super deluxe there too!!
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    arthurdentarthurdent Posts: 969
    NewJPage wrote:
    maybe he just hates his voice from back then, cause he re-recorded vocals on a number of tracks for lost dogs.

    This doesn't bode well for the other bonus tracks. Although, I will LMFAO if Ed re-recorded vocals for Goat :lol:
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    se7v7ense7v7en Philadelphia, PA Posts: 328
    NewJPage wrote:
    halszka123 wrote:
    vedderman wrote:
    are you people deaf? :shock:

    eddie recorded new vocals for this song, this vocals are present not from '91.
    For sure it's His current voice:)
    probably people are not deaf, only too excited;) to consider it

    yep. re-recorded...just as i feared


    What???? No!!! They even talked about about this on WMMY-Philly. They are the origional vocals. The song was only remixed, not rerecorded.
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,393
    could it possibly be another take from those sessions? it's not unusual at all to keep several takes when recording. just a thought...
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,304
    se7v7en wrote:
    NewJPage wrote:
    halszka123 wrote:
    For sure it's His current voice:)
    probably people are not deaf, only too excited;) to consider it

    yep. re-recorded...just as i feared


    What???? No!!! They even talked about about this on WMMY-Philly. They are the origional vocals. The song was only remixed, not rerecorded.[/quote]

    well, i'm about 90% sure that it is re-recorded. for one, it sounds nothing like ed did back then. second, it sounds completely like Ed sounds now. all of the bellowing baritone parts are gone, which was the trademark of the early ed voice.
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    arthurdentarthurdent Posts: 969
    se7v7en wrote:
    What???? No!!! They even talked about about this on WMMY-Philly. They are the origional vocals. The song was only remixed, not rerecorded.

    They most definitely aren't the original vocals from Rough Mixes or the Rarities leak. If that's Ed circa 1991, then they've used a very early take. But the way he completely butchers the lyrics reminds me of Alone from LD more than anything else.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,319
    Sounds like new Ed to me, but maybe it's from 91. Like the instrumental version more, maybe because I'm so
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    andrewbandrewb Posts: 487
    Ed sounds nothing like this anymore, its obviously an old take.
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    se7v7ense7v7en Philadelphia, PA Posts: 328
    well, i'm about 90% sure that it is re-recorded. for one, it sounds nothing like ed did back then. second, it sounds completely like Ed sounds now. all of the bellowing baritone parts are gone, which was the trademark of the early ed voice.[/quote]

    What about the high pitched sqeels that ed would throw in. There are a couple in there that sond kind of high for the current ed. Can even hit those notes now?
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    prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Pearl Jam released a bunch of different takes of Brother to radio stations. Some stations got new vocals, some got original, some got alternate takes, and some got the instrumental. They're trying to fuck with us because we obviously have nothing better to do than analyze what era Ed's vocals are from.
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    DD164485DD164485 Posts: 149
    I don't know how anyone can listen to this and think that this is a re-recorded track.

    I find it very doubtful that Eddie would re record his vocals.

    As if he even gives a shit about this song.

    Why on earth would he take a break from recording a NEW ALBUM so that he can come in the and fuck around with some outake from 20 years ago?

    Not only would this be totally LAME, but completly out of character.

    This is definately an early take of "Brother" re-mixed by Brendon O'Brien using modern 2009 technology.

    It's 1991 Eddie. with a brand new coat of paint....
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    pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    this is 100% remixed...NOT re-recorded
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    strummersstrummers Posts: 2,611
    arthurdent wrote:
    DD164485 wrote:
    Why in the hell would Eddie bother to come in and re-record his vocals to this song 20 years after the fact?

    For exactly the same reason he had Mike butcher the song and turn it into an instrumental for LD..

    :o

    Take that back! :evil:

    Mike doesn't butcher anything!
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    arthurdentarthurdent Posts: 969
    strummers wrote:
    :o

    Take that back! :evil:

    Mike doesn't butcher anything!

    It's OK. I don't hold it against him. Mike was just "following orders."
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