this is a woman, all on her own, deciding she wants and must have as many children as she desires, knowing full weell the consequences.
From a number of articles she seems to be compensating for some 'lack' she had as a child (so she says, though that is disputed from extensive medical data from when she injured herself at work). The IVF doctor should have made her seek psychiatric help for that instead of feeding her deficiencies/needs with one baby after the other, probably knowing damn well this was not ethical (especially the last lot!). But hey... how can a doctor refuse a request from a patient (or rather the money that goes with this request)?
agreed! on all counts!
seriously, how can anyone fully acknowledge they are having all these children to fulfill their OWN needs, and then say it's because 'they love children'.....b/c to me, if you truly love them, you'd want them to have a good,full, loving life. now, that may be her intention, but most would realize....without WILLING support, and LOTs of it...it's just not possible. so why not be happy with your 6! my gawd! i think of just how many people want children, love children, do all they can to have children...IVF or adoption if they can't on their own...AND they foot the bill for it all....and limit themselves to the amount of children they can adequately support. as i've said, if she could do all this...i'd be more than happy for her and those children! altho IVF babies and multiples, in general, have higher incidence of special needs of al forms...so why not adopt would always be my thought...and/or have 1-2 of your 'own' thru IVF if need be. it's just.....selfishness. and hey, i can a very selfish person at times - but i don't involve others in my selfishness, nor expect anyone else to cover/pay for my selfishness.
And SHE is gonna counsel people????!!! :shock: I cannot imagine the advice she is going to give because as MOST of us agree–she does not think clearly.
So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
And SHE is gonna counsel people????!!! :shock: I cannot imagine the advice she is going to give because as MOST of us agree–she does not think clearly.
now, now...don;t be so judgemental.
seriously, when i read she wants to get her masters in counseling..... :shock:
perhaps she should've studied that BEFORE she went on her IVF binges...and perhaps she would've learned a few things, better coping mechanisms, taking personal responsibility, etc, etc.....and that might've helped her enormously, personally. counseling is such a noble profession, and she definitely could use some counseling!
seriously, how can anyone fully acknowledge they are having all these children to fulfill their OWN needs, and then say it's because 'they love children'.....b/c to me, if you truly love them, you'd want them to have a good,full, loving life. now, that may be her intention, but most would realize....without WILLING support, and LOTs of it...it's just not possible. so why not be happy with your 6!
Because she doesn't love children, she loves babies and being pregnant. Once they're a few months old she has no interest in them. Her lack of attention toward the first six proves that.
I just donated $103.04 from the money the government gives me from the good taxpayers
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
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What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Because she doesn't love children, she loves babies and being pregnant. Once they're a few months old she has no interest in them. Her lack of attention toward the first six proves that.
quite possible. personally, i think she simply loves HERself far more than any one else....her family - her children, her parents....b/c this is all about HER, and her wants and needs imo.
I just donated $103.04 from the money the government gives me from the good taxpayers
That's really nice of you!
My husband and I give every paycheck!!
yeh, I'm thinking of setting up a standing order
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
excuse me?? no longer be disabled?? how exactly is that gonna happen??
oh and i saw her picture
i'm now convinced...at some point in the future it will come out that she thinks she's angelina jolie
I dunno... I'm thinking more like Janeanne Garafolo (sp?), she's the image of HER.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I watched the Dateline interview with Ann Curry. I am thoroughly convinced she had plastic surgery...she looks NOTHING like she did when she started the birthing bonanza. She didn't even look like the same person. And, I truly think it will be 'discovered' that she has an obsession with 'being' Angelina Jolie.
This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper
I watched the Dateline interview with Ann Curry. I am thoroughly convinced she had plastic surgery...she looks NOTHING like she did when she started the birthing bonanza. She didn't even look like the same person. And, I truly think it will be 'discovered' that she has an obsession with 'being' Angelina Jolie.
Absolutely she looks like 2 different people !
Off topic....did you see your favorite show and the wedding ?? Waiting until Marriage to kiss !! WOW
My drinking team has a hockey problem
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
if the octuplet mom announced that her favorite band was pearl jam....
the people on this board would....
start a Charity in her name.....
raise money in her honor....
send 8 of those pearl jam onesies(that one piece baby outfit in the goods section)
send 50 pairs of pearl jam socks....
you would have a t-shirt designed for her.....
and you would have brad klausen design a poster in her honor......
then you would all say what a remarkable outstanding loving caring passionate woman she is.......
right????
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
if the octuplet mom announced that her favorite band was pearl jam....
the people on this board would....
start a Charity in her name.....
raise money in her honor....
send 8 of those pearl jam onesies(that one piece baby outfit in the goods section)
send 50 pairs of pearl jam socks....
you would have a t-shirt designed for her.....
and you would have brad klausen design a poster in her honor......
then you would all say what a remarkable outstanding loving caring passionate woman she is.......
right????
nope!
you really have such a high opinion of all the people you converse with on this board daily, eh?
i will still think her the utterly crazy and selfish fuck that i think she is right now. however, i also have met some pearl jam fans i don't really care for either. being a pearl jam fan, or anything else really, is not a free pass in my mind.
i WILL say, if some random woman, thru natural means...found herself pregnant with octuplets and needed help, it would be an entirly different story in my mind. the main issue for me is this woman went out of her way to purposely get pregnant with numerous embryos, when she already had 6 kids at home she could care for! that is.....fucked.
if the octuplet mom announced that her favorite band was pearl jam....
the people on this board would....
start a Charity in her name.....
raise money in her honor....
send 8 of those pearl jam onesies(that one piece baby outfit in the goods section)
send 50 pairs of pearl jam socks....
you would have a t-shirt designed for her.....
and you would have brad klausen design a poster in her honor......
then you would all say what a remarkable outstanding loving caring passionate woman she is.......
right????
and you people wouldnt hesitate to throw your hard earned money at this woman and her children......
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
if the octuplet mom announced that her favorite band was pearl jam....
the people on this board would....
start a Charity in her name.....
raise money in her honor....
send 8 of those pearl jam onesies(that one piece baby outfit in the goods section)
send 50 pairs of pearl jam socks....
you would have a t-shirt designed for her.....
and you would have brad klausen design a poster in her honor......
then you would all say what a remarkable outstanding loving caring passionate woman she is.......
right????
and you people wouldnt hesitate to throw your hard earned money at this woman and her children......
The only people I throw my hard earned money at are STRIPPERS !! :P
Hehehehehehehehe
My drinking team has a hockey problem
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
if the octuplet mom announced that her favorite band was pearl jam....
the people on this board would....
start a Charity in her name.....
raise money in her honor....
send 8 of those pearl jam onesies(that one piece baby outfit in the goods section)
send 50 pairs of pearl jam socks....
you would have a t-shirt designed for her.....
and you would have brad klausen design a poster in her honor......
then you would all say what a remarkable outstanding loving caring passionate woman she is.......
if the octuplet mom announced that her favorite band was pearl jam....
the people on this board would....
start a Charity in her name.....
raise money in her honor....
send 8 of those pearl jam onesies(that one piece baby outfit in the goods section)
send 50 pairs of pearl jam socks....
you would have a t-shirt designed for her.....
and you would have brad klausen design a poster in her honor......
then you would all say what a remarkable outstanding loving caring passionate woman she is.......
right????
nope!
you really have such a high opinion of all the people you converse with on this board daily, eh?
i will still think her the utterly crazy and selfish fuck that i think she is right now. however, i also have met some pearl jam fans i don't really care for either. being a pearl jam fan, or anything else really, is not a free pass in my mind.
i WILL say, if some random woman, thru natural means...found herself pregnant with octuplets and needed help, it would be an entirly different story in my mind. the main issue for me is this woman went out of her way to purposely get pregnant with numerous embryos, when she already had 6 kids at home she could care for! that is.....fucked.
you think she is an utterly crazy and selfish fuck???
thats fine....
and did i just read in another thread where you stated that the adoption process for these kids should already be going on???? you believe these 8 children should be taken away from their mother????
because this lady cant PROVE that she can support her children????
is that what you just said???? or am i missing something?????
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
i think those are too harsh of words. nobody is a waste of space or skin or life.
I'd disagree, but I might be a little harsh
These are few of the people on my waste of space/skin/life list:
Adolf Hitler
Osama Bin Laden
Jeffrey Dahmer
dont forget lupe fiasco...............
There's a lot of wacky stuff on this thread, but that literally made me spit out my coffee. I'll never forget your face while he was performing at Lolla ... hehehe
if the octuplet mom announced that her favorite band was pearl jam....
the people on this board would....
start a Charity in her name.....
raise money in her honor....
send 8 of those pearl jam onesies(that one piece baby outfit in the goods section)
send 50 pairs of pearl jam socks....
you would have a t-shirt designed for her.....
and you would have brad klausen design a poster in her honor......
then you would all say what a remarkable outstanding loving caring passionate woman she is.......
right????
nope!
you really have such a high opinion of all the people you converse with on this board daily, eh?
i will still think her the utterly crazy and selfish fuck that i think she is right now. however, i also have met some pearl jam fans i don't really care for either. being a pearl jam fan, or anything else really, is not a free pass in my mind.
i WILL say, if some random woman, thru natural means...found herself pregnant with octuplets and needed help, it would be an entirly different story in my mind. the main issue for me is this woman went out of her way to purposely get pregnant with numerous embryos, when she already had 6 kids at home she could care for! that is.....fucked.
you think she is an utterly crazy and selfish fuck???
thats fine....
and did i just read in another thread where you stated that the adoption process for these kids should already be going on???? you believe these 8 children should be taken away from their mother????
because this lady cant PROVE that she can support her children????
is that what you just said???? or am i missing something?????
yes, i think she is a crazy and selfish fuck.
no, i did not say her children should be tken away from her. i said that undergoing IVF should require the same stringent guidelines that must be followed when one wants to adopt. so yes, you definitely 'missed something' there.
you really have such a high opinion of all the people you converse with on this board daily, eh?
i will still think her the utterly crazy and selfish fuck that i think she is right now. however, i also have met some pearl jam fans i don't really care for either. being a pearl jam fan, or anything else really, is not a free pass in my mind.
i WILL say, if some random woman, thru natural means...found herself pregnant with octuplets and needed help, it would be an entirly different story in my mind. the main issue for me is this woman went out of her way to purposely get pregnant with numerous embryos, when she already had 6 kids at home she could care for! that is.....fucked.
you think she is an utterly crazy and selfish fuck???
thats fine....
and did i just read in another thread where you stated that the adoption process for these kids should already be going on???? you believe these 8 children should be taken away from their mother????
because this lady cant PROVE that she can support her children????
is that what you just said???? or am i missing something?????
yes, i think she is a crazy and selfish fuck.
and yet you've never met her :? WOW!
This lady does NOT have to answer to the public about how she's planning on supporting the kids or looking after them. I'm sure social services will be on top of it though and neighbours and everybody will want her to fuck up cos she's now high profile and everyone hates her. So if she puts a step wrong, it WILL be taken care of. Why don't ya just give her a chance.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
and one more thing, if you think she's 'crazy', how can she be 'selfish'? Either it's a mental disorder OR she's selfish... which is it? If a retarded person took a pencil from a kid... would you call them a selfish fuck?
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Comments
agreed! on all counts!
seriously, how can anyone fully acknowledge they are having all these children to fulfill their OWN needs, and then say it's because 'they love children'.....b/c to me, if you truly love them, you'd want them to have a good,full, loving life. now, that may be her intention, but most would realize....without WILLING support, and LOTs of it...it's just not possible. so why not be happy with your 6! my gawd! i think of just how many people want children, love children, do all they can to have children...IVF or adoption if they can't on their own...AND they foot the bill for it all....and limit themselves to the amount of children they can adequately support. as i've said, if she could do all this...i'd be more than happy for her and those children! altho IVF babies and multiples, in general, have higher incidence of special needs of al forms...so why not adopt would always be my thought...and/or have 1-2 of your 'own' thru IVF if need be. it's just.....selfishness. and hey, i can a very selfish person at times - but i don't involve others in my selfishness, nor expect anyone else to cover/pay for my selfishness.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
now, now...don;t be so judgemental.
seriously, when i read she wants to get her masters in counseling..... :shock:
perhaps she should've studied that BEFORE she went on her IVF binges...and perhaps she would've learned a few things, better coping mechanisms, taking personal responsibility, etc, etc.....and that might've helped her enormously, personally. counseling is such a noble profession, and she definitely could use some counseling!
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I just donated $103.04 from the money the government gives me from the good taxpayers
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
cool.
the more people give of their own free will, the less need there will be.
besides, it's from UK taxpayer's so we don't care. :P
quite possible. personally, i think she simply loves HERself far more than any one else....her family - her children, her parents....b/c this is all about HER, and her wants and needs imo.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
That's really nice of you!
My husband and I give every paycheck!!
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
That was the problem...
The baby was supposed to be covered under the Mom's insurance but the employer was fighting it :twisted:
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printeditio ... 5691.story
excuse me?? no longer be disabled?? how exactly is that gonna happen??
oh and i saw her picture
i'm now convinced...at some point in the future it will come out that she thinks she's angelina jolie
Yep...
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I'd disagree, but I might be a little harsh
These are few of the people on my waste of space/skin/life list:
Adolf Hitler
Osama Bin Laden
Jeffrey Dahmer
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Absolutely she looks like 2 different people !
Off topic....did you see your favorite show and the wedding ?? Waiting until Marriage to kiss !! WOW
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
the people on this board would....
start a Charity in her name.....
raise money in her honor....
send 8 of those pearl jam onesies(that one piece baby outfit in the goods section)
send 50 pairs of pearl jam socks....
you would have a t-shirt designed for her.....
and you would have brad klausen design a poster in her honor......
then you would all say what a remarkable outstanding loving caring passionate woman she is.......
right????
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
nope!
you really have such a high opinion of all the people you converse with on this board daily, eh?
i will still think her the utterly crazy and selfish fuck that i think she is right now. however, i also have met some pearl jam fans i don't really care for either. being a pearl jam fan, or anything else really, is not a free pass in my mind.
i WILL say, if some random woman, thru natural means...found herself pregnant with octuplets and needed help, it would be an entirly different story in my mind. the main issue for me is this woman went out of her way to purposely get pregnant with numerous embryos, when she already had 6 kids at home she could care for! that is.....fucked.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
The only people I throw my hard earned money at are STRIPPERS !! :P
Hehehehehehehehe
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
only if ed ranted about her
thats fine....
and did i just read in another thread where you stated that the adoption process for these kids should already be going on???? you believe these 8 children should be taken away from their mother????
because this lady cant PROVE that she can support her children????
is that what you just said???? or am i missing something?????
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
There's a lot of wacky stuff on this thread, but that literally made me spit out my coffee. I'll never forget your face while he was performing at Lolla ... hehehe
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yes, i think she is a crazy and selfish fuck.
no, i did not say her children should be tken away from her. i said that undergoing IVF should require the same stringent guidelines that must be followed when one wants to adopt. so yes, you definitely 'missed something' there.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
This lady does NOT have to answer to the public about how she's planning on supporting the kids or looking after them. I'm sure social services will be on top of it though and neighbours and everybody will want her to fuck up cos she's now high profile and everyone hates her. So if she puts a step wrong, it WILL be taken care of. Why don't ya just give her a chance.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you