I Was Unfairly Fired Today

soulsinging

Music For Rhinos wrote:

The former boss is a huge criminal. He has been evading taxes for DECADES. He has screwed the goverment out of tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars. This doesn't seem to be registering with anybody. He has been REPEATEDLY screwing the HELL out of the government and American citizens/taxpayers for a LONG time. The IRS frankly would be ALL OVER him in the event of an audit. Yet no one here seems to care and would rather defend him in regards to firing me.

By comparison, I worked there for TWO months and made LESS than 600 dollars. I legitimately filed my taxes for my other, legal job from 08. There is nothing to claim for the car wash job because I didn't make enough to claim. You don't claim income for a legal job and add under the table income to that.

You really are one of a kind Still trying to defend and rationalize the clearly indefensive and irrational eh? Sorry dude, you owe taxes on that money. Yes, he's a douchebag and yes he's a bigger criminal. That doesn't make you not a criminal, just less of a criminal.

Music For Rhinos wrote:

I know what proper job behavior is. I made one very tiny lapse in judgment for a brief moment. That does not dispel my professionalism. My comment was not directed AT ANYONE personally. It was a general remark, the foreign co-worker MISUNDERSTOOD IT AND WRONGFULLY OVERREACTED.

No, it doesn't dispel your professionalism. What DOES dispel your professionalism is that fact that after the admitted lapse of judgment, you refuse to apologize and instead blame a foreign coworker for not having perfect grasp of English. That's rude and childish. If you were a man, you would say you were sorry and did not mean to offend anyone and that it won't happen again... not rant and whine about what a bullshit reason it is for firing you.

Music For Rhinos wrote:

Soulsinging - I was not serious about the IRS. I have said this about 5 times now. For someone who is supposed to be a lawyer, you sure have a very poor eye for detail. I was simply ranting/upset over the firing the DAY IT OCCURED.

I couldn't care less whether you're actually going to contact the IRS or not. My point was only that you didn't pay your taxes either. You don't have to be a lawyer to know that. The only person that doesn't get it is you. Even the people defending you seem to acknowledge that you're way off on that way.

soulsinging

Music For Rhinos wrote:

Do any of you arguing with me have any idea how ridiculous you sound?

"Yeah guys, let's stick up for Mr. Rich Guy Tax Fraud Asshole Carwash Owner, the FELONY TAX EVADER who treats his employees like total shit who used Music For Rhinos for working the bitterly cold months of December and January then picked a bullshit thing to fire him for as soon as it started getting warmer and busier and let's pick on the guy (who just so happens to be a fellow PJ fan) who barely worked there and made jack SHIT and was fired for an absolutely absurd reason."

I'm not sticking up for him. What he did was wrong. But the fact that he's a bigger asshole doesn't mean you are excused for your role in it all.

soulsinging

Music For Rhinos wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

So the op thinks since he earned less than the taxable limit at the carwash, he doesn't have to report that. He should be adding it to the rest of the taxable income, though. And, the fact that the employer didn't pay taxes has no bearing on whether or not you have to pay.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I REALIZE THAT! You guys are bringing up the same points over and over and over and over and over. Read what I have said!!!

I'll be damned. If I'd read that about 50 posts ago this thread would be 2 pages. Nevermind then.

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Music For Rhinos wrote:

Do any of you arguing with me have any idea how ridiculous you sound?

"Yeah guys, let's stick up for Mr. Rich Guy Tax Fraud Asshole Carwash Owner, the FELONY TAX EVADER who treats his employees like total shit who used Music For Rhinos for working the bitterly cold months of December and January then picked a bullshit thing to fire him for as soon as it started getting warmer and busier and let's pick on the guy (who just so happens to be a fellow PJ fan) who barely worked there and made jack SHIT and was fired for an absolutely absurd reason."

I think people were just hoping you would learn something from this experience but, since that would require owning up to your share of the wrongdoings and all you've been is defensive, it doesn't seem like you have.

Music For Rhinos

scb wrote:

I think people were just hoping you would learn something from this experience but, since that would require owning up to your share of the wrongdoings and all you've been is defensive, it doesn't seem like you have.

I have in fact learned a lot from this experience.

I think getting fired is owning up enough to my share of the wrongdoings. It's not like I flat-out denied what I said. I admitted it.

If I'm being defensive, then you're being unnecessarily and incorrectly offensive.

I will be filing an amendment on my taxes and claiming what very little I made for the sole month of January of 09 at this time next year when it comes time to do taxes again.

Heatherj43

Don't take him to small claims. You will find yourself paying all those taxes you didn't. Even if he didn't take taxes, you are respsonsible for paying them.
The rest is BS! Get another job and move on. I think the guy sounds like a control freak, with little control of hius own life, so takes it out on employess. To say "thats his call to make" is what makes me think this.

Music For Rhinos

Heatherj43 wrote:

Don't take him to small claims. You will find yourself paying all those taxes you didn't. Even if he didn't take taxes, you are respsonsible for paying them.
The rest is BS! Get another job and move on. I think the guy sounds like a control freak, with little control of hius own life, so takes it out on employess. To say "thats his call to make" is what makes me think this.

thanks but no need to say that. this has been said about 50 times.

just let it go.

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Music For Rhinos wrote:

scb wrote:

I think people were just hoping you would learn something from this experience but, since that would require owning up to your share of the wrongdoings and all you've been is defensive, it doesn't seem like you have.

I have in fact learned a lot from this experience.

I think getting fired is owning up enough to my share of the wrongdoings. It's not like I flat-out denied what I said. I admitted it.

If I'm being defensive, then you're being unnecessarily and incorrectly offensive.

I will be filing an amendment on my taxes and claiming what very little I made for the sole month of January of 09 at this time next year when it comes time to do taxes again.

Getting fired is not owning up to your share of the wrongdoings because you have no control over that. And admitting you said it is not the same as admitting it was wrong to say it. Owning up would be to admit that what you said was wrong, apologize for it, understand why your boss would fire you for it (even if you still think it was a harsh decision on his part), and decide to be more professional in the future. Owning up to your wrongdoings with regard to the tax evasion would mean admitting that, by not claiming the income on your taxes, you are an accomplice in the illegal activity. (Kudos for saying you'll claim it, but you still haven't admitted that not claiming it would be wrong.)

SPEEDY MCCREADY

hey music???

if you pm kat or sea....

i am sure they will be more than happy to delete this thread for you....

just a thought.........

Heatherj43

Music For Rhinos wrote:

Heatherj43 wrote:

Don't take him to small claims. You will find yourself paying all those taxes you didn't. Even if he didn't take taxes, you are respsonsible for paying them.
The rest is BS! Get another job and move on. I think the guy sounds like a control freak, with little control of hius own life, so takes it out on employess. To say "thats his call to make" is what makes me think this.

thanks but no need to say that. this has been said about 50 times.

just let it go.

ah sorry. It was one of those threads I didn't read all the responses to.

Music For Rhinos

scb wrote:

Getting fired is not owning up to your share of the wrongdoings because you have no control over that. And admitting you said it is not the same as admitting it was wrong to say it. Owning up would be to admit that what you said was wrong, apologize for it, understand why your boss would fire you for it (even if you still think it was a harsh decision on his part), and decide to be more professional in the future. Owning up to your wrongdoings with regard to the tax evasion would mean admitting that, by not claiming the income on your taxes, you are an accomplice in the illegal activity. (Kudos for saying you'll claim it, but you still haven't admitted that not claiming it would be wrong.)

you know what? just leave it alone. i am at my wits' end here. i'm not about to continue debating you or anyone else for that matter. you're not in my shoes, just be quiet.

soulsinging

scb wrote:

Getting fired is not owning up to your share of the wrongdoings because you have no control over that. And admitting you said it is not the same as admitting it was wrong to say it. Owning up would be to admit that what you said was wrong, apologize for it, understand why your boss would fire you for it (even if you still think it was a harsh decision on his part), and decide to be more professional in the future. Owning up to your wrongdoings with regard to the tax evasion would mean admitting that, by not claiming the income on your taxes, you are an accomplice in the illegal activity. (Kudos for saying you'll claim it, but you still haven't admitted that not claiming it would be wrong.)

What she said.

Music For Rhinos

soulsinging wrote:

scb wrote:

Getting fired is not owning up to your share of the wrongdoings because you have no control over that. And admitting you said it is not the same as admitting it was wrong to say it. Owning up would be to admit that what you said was wrong, apologize for it, understand why your boss would fire you for it (even if you still think it was a harsh decision on his part), and decide to be more professional in the future. Owning up to your wrongdoings with regard to the tax evasion would mean admitting that, by not claiming the income on your taxes, you are an accomplice in the illegal activity. (Kudos for saying you'll claim it, but you still haven't admitted that not claiming it would be wrong.)

What she said.

you know what? just leave it alone. i am at my wits' end here. i'm not about to continue debating you or anyone else for that matter. you're not in my shoes, just be quiet.

redrock

Music For Rhinos wrote:

It didn't register with me that he was a felon while I was working there. .

This and the rest of the thread beggars belief!

You were fired, apparently for being out of line with a worker - foreign or not, grasp of english good or not, working in a carwash or not (I work with truck drivers - they get disciplined for use of bad language/sexual references. Even if it is well known truck drivers are rude).

Furthermore, you had a go with your employer on the phone. Not trying to sort things out, but having a go at him.

You didn't know he was a 'felon'? You were accepting being paid 'under the table', therefore you knew it was illegal (therefore you knew he was a 'felon'). I'm sure this did not bother you and would not have bothered you should you have continued with the job.

Learn from this. Declare the money earned (which I see you will be doing) and for your next job, make sure you get a 'proper' paycheck, with deductions, etc. (unless you are self employed, obviously).

Oh... and don't keep on trying to shift blame (ie the employer being a felon/jerk, the foreign guy not understanding your 'joke', etc.). Take responsibility and good luck in your next job.