I'm not wrong that you are required to report what you made. Even if there is no record, you are required by law to report your income on your taxes. I play in a band. I don't make much and we usually take cash from the door. I claim it as income on my taxes, b/c I make more than a set amount every year.
The people that have "shown their true colors" are the ones are telling you how it really is. Sure, some of it is kinda harsh, but you kinda asked for it.
For the record, again, you are a hypocrite. Would you have reported him paying you under the table if you were never fired? It seems to me that you were planning on enjoying the benefits of not paying your taxes as much as him.
What you wanted was to post your big sob story and a bunch of people to come and feel sorry for you. Sure it sucks you lost your job, but there was a good enough reason. Go look somewhere else for sympathy, is the only thing I can tell ya.
Wrong, I legitimately filed my taxes for my legal job. There is nothing claim for the amount I earned in the TWO months I worked at the car wash. There are no taxes for me to pay on the car wash job! I didn't earn enough!
My former boss is a FELONY tax evader. He doesn't pay ANY taxes, PERIOD.
On what authority are you basing your belief that you do not have to report the carwash income?
this is nothing but 10 pages of flat out shit. its a fucking shit job why bother going on and on bout it, just let it go. my god the aet has sunk to a low.you wanted sympathy from people on here thats funny. had you gotten fired from a real job i think yea people woulda throw a bone but not some shit job like a car wash. go work for ups or fedex where there better paying jobs and dont do things illegally and are more unionized
If that's how you feel, then why did you post? You're dragging it out even more and contributing to not letting it go by posting about it.
So... if you knew he was a felon, why work for one? Your ranting up and down about how bad he was and he committing serious offenses- then why choose to work for someone you have no respect for?
And check irs.gov- it states that you have to file based on your GROSS income for the year. So the 600 is added to your gross income. therefore, you did not claim the money- so you are a tax evader too.
and a comment made after hours, but still on property is still cause for firing. If I said something sexual to a co-worker at the job, but it was after hours- I can still be brought up for sexual harassment. So comments said at work- no matter what time- can come back at you.
And no one is sticking up for your ex-boss- its more the fact that you don't see that YOU too are tax evading, and trying to seem like only one person is doing this.
It didn't register with me that he was a felon while I was working there. I spoke with a number of people upon being fired and realized he was one. Let's say I had not been fired...I'm not just gonna up and quit my job with nothing else lined up...respecting your boss or not, you need to work and you need money. Lots of people don't like their boss! It doesn't mean they decide not to work for him/her.
I am not the only person doing this. How can I claim what little I made when I ALREADY did my taxes? At tax time next year, I will claim the amount I made in January 09. So what we're talking about is ONE month...I started out real slow the first few weeks, doubt I made even 200 dollars. By comparison, my former boss has cheated the government and taxpayers out of presumably TENS or HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of dollars.
I know what you're saying about the after hours comment thing. If you read and understood my post fully, you would realize that I was referring to Norm's comment about losing customers. The point I was making was that there was no danger of us losing any customers because my comment was uttered after hours.
So the op thinks since he earned less than the taxable limit at the carwash, he doesn't have to report that. He should be adding it to the rest of the taxable income, though. And, the fact that the employer didn't pay taxes has no bearing on whether or not you have to pay.
So the op thinks since he earned less than the taxable limit at the carwash, he doesn't have to report that. He should be adding it to the rest of the taxable income, though. And, the fact that the employer didn't pay taxes has no bearing on whether or not you have to pay.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I REALIZE THAT! You guys are bringing up the same points over and over and over and over and over. Read what I have said!!!
I am not the only person doing this. How can I claim what little I made when I ALREADY did my taxes? At tax time next year, I will claim the amount I made in January 09. .
this it the first time you acknowledged that you will claim the money. This is the right step to understanding what we are trying to say. What you ex-boss does and what you do are 2 separate things
I am not the only person doing this. How can I claim what little I made when I ALREADY did my taxes? At tax time next year, I will claim the amount I made in January 09. .
this it the first time you acknowledged that you will claim the money. This is the right step to understanding what we are trying to say. What you ex-boss does and what you do are 2 separate things
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
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AND you can always file an amended return for tax year 2008.
So what's your choice to be?
Scumbag tax evader like your former boss
or
stand up good guy like you claim you are?
stand up good guy, mickey"rat"
Good for you , and by extention us. I sincerely hope you've learned a little something from this experience.
I still am interested to know what outcome you might have expected had you tried to take him to small claims court.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
The former boss is a huge criminal. He has been evading taxes for DECADES. He has screwed the goverment out of tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars. This doesn't seem to be registering with anybody. He has been REPEATEDLY screwing the HELL out of the government and American citizens/taxpayers for a LONG time. The IRS frankly would be ALL OVER him in the event of an audit. Yet no one here seems to care and would rather defend him in regards to firing me.
By comparison, I worked there for TWO months and made LESS than 600 dollars. I legitimately filed my taxes for my other, legal job from 08. There is nothing to claim for the car wash job because I didn't make enough to claim. You don't claim income for a legal job and add under the table income to that.
You really are one of a kind Still trying to defend and rationalize the clearly indefensive and irrational eh? Sorry dude, you owe taxes on that money. Yes, he's a douchebag and yes he's a bigger criminal. That doesn't make you not a criminal, just less of a criminal.
I know what proper job behavior is. I made one very tiny lapse in judgment for a brief moment. That does not dispel my professionalism. My comment was not directed AT ANYONE personally. It was a general remark, the foreign co-worker MISUNDERSTOOD IT AND WRONGFULLY OVERREACTED.
No, it doesn't dispel your professionalism. What DOES dispel your professionalism is that fact that after the admitted lapse of judgment, you refuse to apologize and instead blame a foreign coworker for not having perfect grasp of English. That's rude and childish. If you were a man, you would say you were sorry and did not mean to offend anyone and that it won't happen again... not rant and whine about what a bullshit reason it is for firing you.
Soulsinging - I was not serious about the IRS. I have said this about 5 times now. For someone who is supposed to be a lawyer, you sure have a very poor eye for detail. I was simply ranting/upset over the firing the DAY IT OCCURED.
I couldn't care less whether you're actually going to contact the IRS or not. My point was only that you didn't pay your taxes either. You don't have to be a lawyer to know that. The only person that doesn't get it is you. Even the people defending you seem to acknowledge that you're way off on that way.
Do any of you arguing with me have any idea how ridiculous you sound?
"Yeah guys, let's stick up for Mr. Rich Guy Tax Fraud Asshole Carwash Owner, the FELONY TAX EVADER who treats his employees like total shit who used Music For Rhinos for working the bitterly cold months of December and January then picked a bullshit thing to fire him for as soon as it started getting warmer and busier and let's pick on the guy (who just so happens to be a fellow PJ fan) who barely worked there and made jack SHIT and was fired for an absolutely absurd reason."
I'm not sticking up for him. What he did was wrong. But the fact that he's a bigger asshole doesn't mean you are excused for your role in it all.
So the op thinks since he earned less than the taxable limit at the carwash, he doesn't have to report that. He should be adding it to the rest of the taxable income, though. And, the fact that the employer didn't pay taxes has no bearing on whether or not you have to pay.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I REALIZE THAT! You guys are bringing up the same points over and over and over and over and over. Read what I have said!!!
I'll be damned. If I'd read that about 50 posts ago this thread would be 2 pages. Nevermind then.
Do any of you arguing with me have any idea how ridiculous you sound?
"Yeah guys, let's stick up for Mr. Rich Guy Tax Fraud Asshole Carwash Owner, the FELONY TAX EVADER who treats his employees like total shit who used Music For Rhinos for working the bitterly cold months of December and January then picked a bullshit thing to fire him for as soon as it started getting warmer and busier and let's pick on the guy (who just so happens to be a fellow PJ fan) who barely worked there and made jack SHIT and was fired for an absolutely absurd reason."
I think people were just hoping you would learn something from this experience but, since that would require owning up to your share of the wrongdoings and all you've been is defensive, it doesn't seem like you have. :(
I think people were just hoping you would learn something from this experience but, since that would require owning up to your share of the wrongdoings and all you've been is defensive, it doesn't seem like you have. :(
I have in fact learned a lot from this experience.
I think getting fired is owning up enough to my share of the wrongdoings. It's not like I flat-out denied what I said. I admitted it.
If I'm being defensive, then you're being unnecessarily and incorrectly offensive.
I will be filing an amendment on my taxes and claiming what very little I made for the sole month of January of 09 at this time next year when it comes time to do taxes again.
Don't take him to small claims. You will find yourself paying all those taxes you didn't. Even if he didn't take taxes, you are respsonsible for paying them.
The rest is BS! Get another job and move on. I think the guy sounds like a control freak, with little control of hius own life, so takes it out on employess. To say "thats his call to make" is what makes me think this.
Don't take him to small claims. You will find yourself paying all those taxes you didn't. Even if he didn't take taxes, you are respsonsible for paying them.
The rest is BS! Get another job and move on. I think the guy sounds like a control freak, with little control of hius own life, so takes it out on employess. To say "thats his call to make" is what makes me think this.
thanks but no need to say that. this has been said about 50 times.
I think people were just hoping you would learn something from this experience but, since that would require owning up to your share of the wrongdoings and all you've been is defensive, it doesn't seem like you have. :(
I have in fact learned a lot from this experience.
I think getting fired is owning up enough to my share of the wrongdoings. It's not like I flat-out denied what I said. I admitted it.
If I'm being defensive, then you're being unnecessarily and incorrectly offensive.
I will be filing an amendment on my taxes and claiming what very little I made for the sole month of January of 09 at this time next year when it comes time to do taxes again.
Getting fired is not owning up to your share of the wrongdoings because you have no control over that. And admitting you said it is not the same as admitting it was wrong to say it. Owning up would be to admit that what you said was wrong, apologize for it, understand why your boss would fire you for it (even if you still think it was a harsh decision on his part), and decide to be more professional in the future. Owning up to your wrongdoings with regard to the tax evasion would mean admitting that, by not claiming the income on your taxes, you are an accomplice in the illegal activity. (Kudos for saying you'll claim it, but you still haven't admitted that not claiming it would be wrong.)
Don't take him to small claims. You will find yourself paying all those taxes you didn't. Even if he didn't take taxes, you are respsonsible for paying them.
The rest is BS! Get another job and move on. I think the guy sounds like a control freak, with little control of hius own life, so takes it out on employess. To say "thats his call to make" is what makes me think this.
thanks but no need to say that. this has been said about 50 times.
just let it go.
ah sorry. It was one of those threads I didn't read all the responses to.
Getting fired is not owning up to your share of the wrongdoings because you have no control over that. And admitting you said it is not the same as admitting it was wrong to say it. Owning up would be to admit that what you said was wrong, apologize for it, understand why your boss would fire you for it (even if you still think it was a harsh decision on his part), and decide to be more professional in the future. Owning up to your wrongdoings with regard to the tax evasion would mean admitting that, by not claiming the income on your taxes, you are an accomplice in the illegal activity. (Kudos for saying you'll claim it, but you still haven't admitted that not claiming it would be wrong.)
you know what? just leave it alone. i am at my wits' end here. i'm not about to continue debating you or anyone else for that matter. you're not in my shoes, just be quiet.
Getting fired is not owning up to your share of the wrongdoings because you have no control over that. And admitting you said it is not the same as admitting it was wrong to say it. Owning up would be to admit that what you said was wrong, apologize for it, understand why your boss would fire you for it (even if you still think it was a harsh decision on his part), and decide to be more professional in the future. Owning up to your wrongdoings with regard to the tax evasion would mean admitting that, by not claiming the income on your taxes, you are an accomplice in the illegal activity. (Kudos for saying you'll claim it, but you still haven't admitted that not claiming it would be wrong.)
Getting fired is not owning up to your share of the wrongdoings because you have no control over that. And admitting you said it is not the same as admitting it was wrong to say it. Owning up would be to admit that what you said was wrong, apologize for it, understand why your boss would fire you for it (even if you still think it was a harsh decision on his part), and decide to be more professional in the future. Owning up to your wrongdoings with regard to the tax evasion would mean admitting that, by not claiming the income on your taxes, you are an accomplice in the illegal activity. (Kudos for saying you'll claim it, but you still haven't admitted that not claiming it would be wrong.)
What she said.
you know what? just leave it alone. i am at my wits' end here. i'm not about to continue debating you or anyone else for that matter. you're not in my shoes, just be quiet.
It didn't register with me that he was a felon while I was working there. .
This and the rest of the thread beggars belief!
You were fired, apparently for being out of line with a worker - foreign or not, grasp of english good or not, working in a carwash or not (I work with truck drivers - they get disciplined for use of bad language/sexual references. Even if it is well known truck drivers are rude).
Furthermore, you had a go with your employer on the phone. Not trying to sort things out, but having a go at him.
You didn't know he was a 'felon'? You were accepting being paid 'under the table', therefore you knew it was illegal (therefore you knew he was a 'felon'). I'm sure this did not bother you and would not have bothered you should you have continued with the job.
Learn from this. Declare the money earned (which I see you will be doing) and for your next job, make sure you get a 'proper' paycheck, with deductions, etc. (unless you are self employed, obviously).
Oh... and don't keep on trying to shift blame (ie the employer being a felon/jerk, the foreign guy not understanding your 'joke', etc.). Take responsibility and good luck in your next job.
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On what authority are you basing your belief that you do not have to report the carwash income?
ummm............ get over it and move on.
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If that's how you feel, then why did you post? You're dragging it out even more and contributing to not letting it go by posting about it.
It didn't register with me that he was a felon while I was working there. I spoke with a number of people upon being fired and realized he was one. Let's say I had not been fired...I'm not just gonna up and quit my job with nothing else lined up...respecting your boss or not, you need to work and you need money. Lots of people don't like their boss! It doesn't mean they decide not to work for him/her.
I am not the only person doing this. How can I claim what little I made when I ALREADY did my taxes? At tax time next year, I will claim the amount I made in January 09. So what we're talking about is ONE month...I started out real slow the first few weeks, doubt I made even 200 dollars. By comparison, my former boss has cheated the government and taxpayers out of presumably TENS or HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of dollars.
I know what you're saying about the after hours comment thing. If you read and understood my post fully, you would realize that I was referring to Norm's comment about losing customers. The point I was making was that there was no danger of us losing any customers because my comment was uttered after hours.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I REALIZE THAT! You guys are bringing up the same points over and over and over and over and over. Read what I have said!!!
Yes, I agree with that.
So what's your choice to be?
Scumbag tax evader like your former boss
or
stand up good guy like you claim you are?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
stand up good guy, mickey"rat"
I still am interested to know what outcome you might have expected had you tried to take him to small claims court.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
No, it doesn't dispel your professionalism. What DOES dispel your professionalism is that fact that after the admitted lapse of judgment, you refuse to apologize and instead blame a foreign coworker for not having perfect grasp of English. That's rude and childish. If you were a man, you would say you were sorry and did not mean to offend anyone and that it won't happen again... not rant and whine about what a bullshit reason it is for firing you.
I couldn't care less whether you're actually going to contact the IRS or not. My point was only that you didn't pay your taxes either. You don't have to be a lawyer to know that. The only person that doesn't get it is you. Even the people defending you seem to acknowledge that you're way off on that way.
I'm not sticking up for him. What he did was wrong. But the fact that he's a bigger asshole doesn't mean you are excused for your role in it all.
I'll be damned. If I'd read that about 50 posts ago this thread would be 2 pages. Nevermind then.
I think people were just hoping you would learn something from this experience but, since that would require owning up to your share of the wrongdoings and all you've been is defensive, it doesn't seem like you have. :(
I have in fact learned a lot from this experience.
I think getting fired is owning up enough to my share of the wrongdoings. It's not like I flat-out denied what I said. I admitted it.
If I'm being defensive, then you're being unnecessarily and incorrectly offensive.
I will be filing an amendment on my taxes and claiming what very little I made for the sole month of January of 09 at this time next year when it comes time to do taxes again.
The rest is BS! Get another job and move on. I think the guy sounds like a control freak, with little control of hius own life, so takes it out on employess. To say "thats his call to make" is what makes me think this.
thanks but no need to say that. this has been said about 50 times.
just let it go.
Getting fired is not owning up to your share of the wrongdoings because you have no control over that. And admitting you said it is not the same as admitting it was wrong to say it. Owning up would be to admit that what you said was wrong, apologize for it, understand why your boss would fire you for it (even if you still think it was a harsh decision on his part), and decide to be more professional in the future. Owning up to your wrongdoings with regard to the tax evasion would mean admitting that, by not claiming the income on your taxes, you are an accomplice in the illegal activity. (Kudos for saying you'll claim it, but you still haven't admitted that not claiming it would be wrong.)
if you pm kat or sea....
i am sure they will be more than happy to delete this thread for you....
just a thought.........
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
you know what? just leave it alone. i am at my wits' end here. i'm not about to continue debating you or anyone else for that matter. you're not in my shoes, just be quiet.
What she said.
you know what? just leave it alone. i am at my wits' end here. i'm not about to continue debating you or anyone else for that matter. you're not in my shoes, just be quiet.
This and the rest of the thread beggars belief!
You were fired, apparently for being out of line with a worker - foreign or not, grasp of english good or not, working in a carwash or not (I work with truck drivers - they get disciplined for use of bad language/sexual references. Even if it is well known truck drivers are rude).
Furthermore, you had a go with your employer on the phone. Not trying to sort things out, but having a go at him.
You didn't know he was a 'felon'? You were accepting being paid 'under the table', therefore you knew it was illegal (therefore you knew he was a 'felon'). I'm sure this did not bother you and would not have bothered you should you have continued with the job.
Learn from this. Declare the money earned (which I see you will be doing) and for your next job, make sure you get a 'proper' paycheck, with deductions, etc. (unless you are self employed, obviously).
Oh... and don't keep on trying to shift blame (ie the employer being a felon/jerk, the foreign guy not understanding your 'joke', etc.). Take responsibility and good luck in your next job.