I Was Unfairly Fired Today

Heineken Helen

soulsinging wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

[I just find it ironic the PEOPLE who are throwing accusations of immaturity and childishness actually not ironic... just plain funny!

No I'm not happy about that... but in this case I don't get the impression that the OP was undercutting a local person... I get the impression that he IS local. It's a different story but should have the same implications.

I don't doubt you find it funny/ironic. Meanwhile, I find it rather telling that the only person taking his side and saying he's being perfectly reasonable is unemployed and having enormous difficulty getting a job. By my count, there have been about 20 different people here who have said he is acting childish and is wrong about this, and a large number of them are gainfully employed and have been. Don't let your personal issues with 2 or 3 of them cloud your judgment or obscure the fact that they're all right.

What implications would those be? The bottom line is that what he's doing is illegal and he insists it is not. Are you saying he's right?

gainfully employed... I've been working for the past 12 years since i was 16... this is my first 'break in service' and it HAS been a break as much as anything. Oh and I've been working all those years while you were a slacker student you're not a lawyer YET, amn't I right?

Heineken Helen

soulsinging wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

Are you bringing MY personal situation into it??? Wow, that's low, even for you :roll: IT'S A RECESSION :roll: ah you'll find out soon enough

dunk also took his side and he's highly employed... ah I forgot you judge people only on what they do and how much money they make

2 Europeans to about 20 Americans, several of who have intimate knowledge of the tax code. I ask again, are you saying that he is right when he claims he hasn't broken any laws but his boss did?

when did I say he was right? NEVER! I also don't go around kicking people when they're down... which is WHY I joined this thread in the first place cos the way you're all jumping on the guy is disgusting. But hey, that's what you do, right?

soulsinging

Heineken Helen wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

Are you bringing MY personal situation into it??? Wow, that's low, even for you :roll: IT'S A RECESSION :roll: ah you'll find out soon enough

dunk also took his side and he's highly employed... ah I forgot you judge people only on what they do and how much money they make

2 Europeans to about 20 Americans, several of who have intimate knowledge of the tax code. I ask again, are you saying that he is right when he claims he hasn't broken any laws but his boss did?

when did I say he was right? NEVER! I also don't go around kicking people when they're down... which is WHY I joined this thread in the first place cos the way you're all jumping on the guy is disgusting. But hey, that's what you do, right?

I thought you were all about the tough/honest love? The fact is, he responded like a spoiled brat and was histrionically talking about taking action that could backfire on him tremendously. Yes, we all jumped on that and said "what are you an idiot!? DON'T call the IRS, they'll get you too!" Yet he continues to insist he's done nothing wrong. Better he learn that he's being foolishly naive and ignorant here and now than learn it when he's arrested.

Heineken Helen

soulsinging wrote:

I thought you were all about the tough/honest love? The fact is, he responded like a spoiled brat and was histrionically talking about taking action that could backfire on him tremendously. Yes, we all jumped on that and said "what are you an idiot!? DON'T call the IRS, they'll get you too!" Yet he continues to insist he's done nothing wrong. Better he learn that he's being foolishly naive and ignorant here and now than learn it when he's arrested.

that's not how it looked like from here. He DIDN'T respond like a spoiled brat... he got sacked for a bullshit reason from a bullshit job that many of us have had and he came here to rant like many of us do. A little empathy can go a long way.

norm

Heineken Helen wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

I thought you were all about the tough/honest love? The fact is, he responded like a spoiled brat and was histrionically talking about taking action that could backfire on him tremendously. Yes, we all jumped on that and said "what are you an idiot!? DON'T call the IRS, they'll get you too!" Yet he continues to insist he's done nothing wrong. Better he learn that he's being foolishly naive and ignorant here and now than learn it when he's arrested.

that's not how it looked like from here. He DIDN'T respond like a spoiled brat... he got sacked for a bullshit reason from a bullshit job that many of us have had and he came here to rant like many of us do. A little empathy can go a long way.

bullshit reason?? he was using foul language toward another employee possibly within earshot of customers...not exactly the kind of employee i would want at my business...

soulsinging

Heineken Helen wrote:

that's not how it looked like from here. He DIDN'T respond like a spoiled brat... he got sacked for a bullshit reason from a bullshit job that many of us have had and he came here to rant like many of us do. A little empathy can go a long way.

I don't know, he sounded pretty damn serious about the IRS idea. And he's been defending it ever since.

I also can't help but notice the parallel... he gets canned and rather than finding out why or trying to right things, he calls to tell the boss he's a jerk then claims he didn't do anything wrong and if he did he shouldn't be fired for it. Then he comes here talking about the IRS and rather than finding out if that's a good idea he complains about how we're all mean and that he didn't do anything illegal and if he did it's the employer's fault for making him do it. I see a pattern here of always playing the victim and never taking responsibility.

This is also the poster who made a thread whining about people unfairly parking in front of his building, despite the fact that it's a public street not a private lot. Once again... the world is being so unfair to him and he is never misinformed or unreasonable.

Of course, I can see how you would be totally on board with that sort of thinking

Heineken Helen

norm wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

I thought you were all about the tough/honest love? The fact is, he responded like a spoiled brat and was histrionically talking about taking action that could backfire on him tremendously. Yes, we all jumped on that and said "what are you an idiot!? DON'T call the IRS, they'll get you too!" Yet he continues to insist he's done nothing wrong. Better he learn that he's being foolishly naive and ignorant here and now than learn it when he's arrested.

that's not how it looked like from here. He DIDN'T respond like a spoiled brat... he got sacked for a bullshit reason from a bullshit job that many of us have had and he came here to rant like many of us do. A little empathy can go a long way.

bullshit reason?? he was using foul language toward another employee possibly within earshot of customers...not exactly the kind of employee i would want at my business...

AGAIN... since when is one expected to be PC and not use foul language when working at a car wash? It's not like he's working in a fucking law firm or something. He's employed illegally and paid shit money and he can't say ASS?????????????????????????????????? What IS the world coming to with this PC bullshit. :roll:

Heineken Helen

soulsinging wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

that's not how it looked like from here. He DIDN'T respond like a spoiled brat... he got sacked for a bullshit reason from a bullshit job that many of us have had and he came here to rant like many of us do. A little empathy can go a long way.

I don't know, he sounded pretty damn serious about the IRS idea. And he's been defending it ever since.

I also can't help but notice the parallel... he gets canned and rather than finding out why or trying to right things, he calls to tell the boss he's a jerk and he didn't do anything wrong. He comes here talking about the IRS and rather than finding out if that's a good idea he complains about how we're all mean and he didn't do anything illegal. I see a pattern here of always playing the victim and never taking responsibility.

This is also the poster who made a thread whining about people unfairly parking in front of his building, despite the fact that it's a public street not a private lot. Once again... the world is being so unfair to him and he is never misinformed or unreasonable.

Of course, I can see how you would be totally on board with that sort of thinking

:? whatever! You're obviously just here to go on about how wrong he is and you're obviously gonna continue even though you don't know the guy, never met him, never been to his employment :shock: it kinda defies belief really... but you're going to continue... so don't let me stop ya!

soulsinging

Heineken Helen wrote:

AGAIN... since when is one expected to be PC and not use foul language when working at a car wash? It's not like he's working in a fucking law firm or something. He's employed illegally and paid shit money and he can't say ASS?????????????????????????????????? What IS the world coming to with this PC bullshit. :roll:

Yeah, what is the world coming to with all this PC, hand-holding "I'm so sorry you lost your job because of that big meanie" bullshit?

soulsinging

Heineken Helen wrote:

:? whatever! You're obviously just here to go on about how wrong he is and you're obviously gonna continue even though you don't know the guy, never met him, never been to his employment :shock: it kinda defies belief really... but you're going to continue... so don't let me stop ya!

Nope. But you've never met me either and that doesn't stop you from forming opinions about my character based on my posting, does it?

Heineken Helen

soulsinging wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

:? whatever! You're obviously just here to go on about how wrong he is and you're obviously gonna continue even though you don't know the guy, never met him, never been to his employment :shock: it kinda defies belief really... but you're going to continue... so don't let me stop ya!

Nope. But you've never met me either and that doesn't stop you from forming opinions about my character based on my posting, does it?

well, you do get pretty opinionated and I can only go by what you post... so, if my judgement on you is wrong, you're obviously not being yourself online.

and he is a big meanie... it's people like his employer who have got us into this recession.

norm

Heineken Helen wrote:

AGAIN... since when is one expected to be PC and not use foul language when working at a car wash? It's not like he's working in a fucking law firm or something. He's employed illegally and paid shit money and he can't say ASS?????????????????????????????????? What IS the world coming to with this PC bullshit. :roll:

PC?? what the hell are you talking about?

my point is if i'm a business owner i do not want my employees to use foul language or do anything thing else that might jeopardize me losing customers...because if i lose customers i lose my business...

soulsinging

Heineken Helen wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

Nope. But you've never met me either and that doesn't stop you from forming opinions about my character based on my posting, does it?

well, you do get pretty opinionated and I can only go by what you post... so, if my judgement on you is wrong, you're obviously not being yourself online.

and he is a big meanie... it's people like his employer who have got us into this recession.

Ah, I see. So you can judge my personality by my posts, but I can't judge his personality by his posts? Have I got that right?

You may be partly right in that greedy and coercive employers played a big role in this recession, but the other part was played by people like the OP that took out loans they could never pay off and then later said "it wasn't my fault, they offered me the money and it wasn't MY responsibility to consider the ramifications of taking it!"

Heineken Helen

norm wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

AGAIN... since when is one expected to be PC and not use foul language when working at a car wash? It's not like he's working in a fucking law firm or something. He's employed illegally and paid shit money and he can't say ASS?????????????????????????????????? What IS the world coming to with this PC bullshit. :roll:

PC?? what the hell are you talking about?

my point is if i'm a business owner i do not want my employees to use foul language or do anything thing else that might jeopardize me losing customers...because if i lose customers i lose my business...

AGAIN... it's a car wash! If somebody takes offense cos somebody said ASS (not fuck, not cunt, not anything that SHOULD be taken offensive) well then that IS Political correctness gone completely lalalalala NUTS!

Seriously, sometimes I think it's a whole different WORLD over there :oops:

norm

Heineken Helen wrote:

norm wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

AGAIN... since when is one expected to be PC and not use foul language when working at a car wash? It's not like he's working in a fucking law firm or something. He's employed illegally and paid shit money and he can't say ASS?????????????????????????????????? What IS the world coming to with this PC bullshit. :roll:

PC?? what the hell are you talking about?

my point is if i'm a business owner i do not want my employees to use foul language or do anything thing else that might jeopardize me losing customers...because if i lose customers i lose my business...

AGAIN... it's a car wash! If somebody takes offense cos somebody said ASS (not fuck, not cunt, not anything that SHOULD be taken offensive) well then that IS Political correctness gone completely lalalalala NUTS!

Seriously, sometimes I think it's a whole different WORLD over there :oops:

ah forget it...much like the op you won't listen to reason

Heineken Helen

norm wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

norm wrote:

PC?? what the hell are you talking about?

my point is if i'm a business owner i do not want my employees to use foul language or do anything thing else that might jeopardize me losing customers...because if i lose customers i lose my business...

AGAIN... it's a car wash! If somebody takes offense cos somebody said ASS (not fuck, not cunt, not anything that SHOULD be taken offensive) well then that IS Political correctness gone completely lalalalala NUTS!

Seriously, sometimes I think it's a whole different WORLD over there :oops:

ah forget it...much like the op you won't listen to reason

The guy said ASS at a CAR WASH... and that's a sackable offense? And that's reason??? Well if that's reason, you're right, I won't listen to it

chromiam

Helen- you are missing the point: the employee does NOT need a reason to fire him. He can just say goodbye, I don't want you here.

DewieCox

Heineken Helen wrote:

my point is if i'm a business owner i do not want my employees to use foul language or do anything thing else that might jeopardize me losing customers...because if i lose customers i lose my business...

AGAIN... it's a car wash! If somebody takes offense cos somebody said ASS (not fuck, not cunt, not anything that SHOULD be taken offensive) well then that IS Political correctness gone completely lalalalala NUTS!

Seriously, sometimes I think it's a whole different WORLD over there :oops:[/quote]

ah forget it...much like the op you won't listen to reason[/quote]
The guy said ASS at a CAR WASH... and that's a sackable offense? And that's reason??? Well if that's reason, you're right, I won't listen to it [/quote]

Could be. You or I may not fire him, but it's a legit enough reason, esp in this day and age of pc-ness, not to mention the crummy economy.

The op has stated several times that tax evasion isn't illegal, which makes me think he's alot less mature than he thinks.

Maybe he's been misinformed, but I have had several cash paying jobs since I was about 14 years old and that money has always been claimed.

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So, OP - What exactly did your boss say about why you were fired? I mean, did the guy you made the comment to come and complain? Did a costomer or someone else overhear and complain? Was the guy you made the comment to pissed because you never told him where the tire shine was and gave him a hard time, regardless of whether or not you used the word ass? Could you give us some more specifics here?

Horos

One response to Helen's mouthfuls of crap.................he said "Up my ass!" not just ass. I believe there is a little difference just like between damn and goddamn.

The OP obviously was looking for sympathy but looked in the wrong place. He should have tried a High School. I employ about 20 aging from 18-30 and it seems to be a common attitude that nothing is their fault. Be it forgetting to switch off a light switch at night or getting arrested for fighting with the cops. He continually tells us throughout the posts that we are not listening when he apparently isn't paying much attention. I've read other whining posts by the OP and he's seems unable to realize that he's offsensive.

Sorry you lost your job dude but it's certainly not the end of the world and I believe you are equally culpable.