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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    [/quote]
    Probably because they are traveling from one point in time on the island to another point in time on the island, in other words they are being picked up by the timestream and transplanted to another point along the stream.[/quote]

    Still doesn't make sense to me.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • _Crazy_Mary__Crazy_Mary_ Posts: 1,299
    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, just tuning in to the discussion, but - it really bothers me that the 20 or so survivors are traveling through time on the island, but the rest of the people they come across aren't. WTF?!
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, just tuning in to the discussion, but - it really bothers me that the 20 or so survivors are traveling through time on the island, but the rest of the people they come across aren't. WTF?!

    My theory is that the Others are part of the island and the losties, frieghter folk and Juliet are not. Juliet used to be an Other until she was branded after killing Pickett and kicked out of their group. So when the wheel was spun and the island moved, they and anything with them would be the only things jumping and not the island itself.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    Solat13 wrote:
    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, just tuning in to the discussion, but - it really bothers me that the 20 or so survivors are traveling through time on the island, but the rest of the people they come across aren't. WTF?!

    My theory is that the Others are part of the island and the losties, frieghter folk and Juliet are not. Juliet used to be an Other until she was branded after killing Pickett and kicked out of their group. So when the wheel was spun and the island moved, they and anything with them would be the only things jumping and not the island itself.

    Thats what I think too. Since the others are a part of the Island, they are not affecte dby the time travel.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • tybird wrote:
    I'm also thinking that Richard pre-dates the "Black Rock"....the classical statue of the foot....the speaking in Latin does make one think of the era of the slave trader/pirate ship.
    Arr! Latin-speaking pirates! :lol:

    J/K that is good theory. I keep forgetting about the Black Rock and what it must mean to the island.
  • jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    tybird wrote:
    I'm also thinking that Richard pre-dates the "Black Rock"....the classical statue of the foot....the speaking in Latin does make one think of the era of the slave trader/pirate ship.

    I could see that, Richard being tied to the statue of the foot would be a cool connection.
    PJ:
    2003 Mansfield: July 2
    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
    2010 Boston: May 17
    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
    2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7

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  • nfanelnfanel Posts: 2,558
    Solat13 wrote:
    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, just tuning in to the discussion, but - it really bothers me that the 20 or so survivors are traveling through time on the island, but the rest of the people they come across aren't. WTF?!

    My theory is that the Others are part of the island and the losties, frieghter folk and Juliet are not. Juliet used to be an Other until she was branded after killing Pickett and kicked out of their group. So when the wheel was spun and the island moved, they and anything with them would be the only things jumping and not the island itself.
    but desmond didn't move as they showed him in the hatch last week.... and in the preview, sawyer said he saw kate running through the jungle or something like that. i don't know, time travel hurts my head.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    nfanel wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, just tuning in to the discussion, but - it really bothers me that the 20 or so survivors are traveling through time on the island, but the rest of the people they come across aren't. WTF?!

    My theory is that the Others are part of the island and the losties, frieghter folk and Juliet are not. Juliet used to be an Other until she was branded after killing Pickett and kicked out of their group. So when the wheel was spun and the island moved, they and anything with them would be the only things jumping and not the island itself.
    but desmond didn't move as they showed him in the hatch last week.... and in the preview, sawyer said he saw kate running through the jungle or something like that. i don't know, time travel hurts my head.
    Ahhhh....time travel....what great story telling potential. :twisted:
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    nfanel wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, just tuning in to the discussion, but - it really bothers me that the 20 or so survivors are traveling through time on the island, but the rest of the people they come across aren't. WTF?!

    My theory is that the Others are part of the island and the losties, frieghter folk and Juliet are not. Juliet used to be an Other until she was branded after killing Pickett and kicked out of their group. So when the wheel was spun and the island moved, they and anything with them would be the only things jumping and not the island itself.
    but desmond didn't move as they showed him in the hatch last week.... and in the preview, sawyer said he saw kate running through the jungle or something like that. i don't know, time travel hurts my head.

    Desmond wasn't with them when the island moved after the wheel was pushed. He was in the copter with the Oceanic 6 and Lapidus. And Farrady also said that Desmond was immune to the rules so we'll have to see how that gets explained.

    In the preview, it looked like the hatch light was also shown so it could be that they jumped to the time when they first entered the hatch. So the voice that Sawyer heard could be Kate in the past. It would be interesting to see how TPTB handle running into your past self.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • :idea: Hello fellow Lost fans! Not sure if it's been discussed, but as I watched last night's episode a thought came to me. WHO is MILES? Where did he come from? Yeah yeah I know he is "with" Charlotte and Faraday but.. Is he the baby in the beginning of last week's episode or whenever they showed The Dr. getting up to do his 'video' for The Dharma Initiative, then having to switchover to the site where Faraday found the radiation leak in the rock foundation. Just a thought. And he sees and feels 'the dead'!
    Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's Soul remains Unawakened.
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  • _Crazy_Mary__Crazy_Mary_ Posts: 1,299
    Basically, I just can't think too much about this show because it doesn't make any sense. I have to just watch and enjoy to keep from going insane :?
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,255
    tybird wrote:
    I'm also thinking that Richard pre-dates the "Black Rock"....the classical statue of the foot....the speaking in Latin does make one think of the era of the slave trader/pirate ship.
    Has anyone seen Richard barefoot?
    He may have 4 toes.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Poncier wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    I'm also thinking that Richard pre-dates the "Black Rock"....the classical statue of the foot....the speaking in Latin does make one think of the era of the slave trader/pirate ship.
    Has anyone seen Richard barefoot?
    He may have 4 toes.
    The possibility is there....
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • spatspat Posts: 644
    Poncier wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    I'm also thinking that Richard pre-dates the "Black Rock"....the classical statue of the foot....the speaking in Latin does make one think of the era of the slave trader/pirate ship.
    Has anyone seen Richard barefoot?
    He may have 4 toes.
    that could be said for ANYONE though. have we really payed attention to anyone's toes?
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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, just tuning in to the discussion, but - it really bothers me that the 20 or so survivors are traveling through time on the island, but the rest of the people they come across aren't. WTF?!

    I agree
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    On a complete side note, I was watching the first episode of Lost season 1 last night and it turns out that the pilot Jack/Kate/Charlie find alive in the plane is the guy who plays Matt Parkman in Heroes.
    PJ:
    2003 Mansfield: July 2
    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
    2010 Boston: May 17
    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
    2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7

    EV Solo: Boston 8/2/08, Boston 6/16/11
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    rrivers wrote:
    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, just tuning in to the discussion, but - it really bothers me that the 20 or so survivors are traveling through time on the island, but the rest of the people they come across aren't. WTF?!

    I agree
    The people who were on the island when the wheel was turned by Ben are the only ones traveling through time, the people that they are encountering are moving through the timestream in the normal fashion. It appears that the survivors are traveling through time, not the island itself.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    tybird wrote:
    rrivers wrote:
    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, just tuning in to the discussion, but - it really bothers me that the 20 or so survivors are traveling through time on the island, but the rest of the people they come across aren't. WTF?!

    I agree
    The people who were on the island when the wheel was turned by Ben are the only ones traveling through time, the people that they are encountering are moving through the timestream in the normal fashion. It appears that the survivors are traveling through time, not the island itself.


    Plus the people who were in the water and inside the circle (Daniel, Miles, etc.). My problem is that all the Others that are on the island should be traveling with them.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    I think the Others, Since they are a part of the Island, do not time travel. Or that is what they are getting at. Almost as if the Island does not want them to or something like that.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • jervin007 wrote:
    On a complete side note, I was watching the first episode of Lost season 1 last night and it turns out that the pilot Jack/Kate/Charlie find alive in the plane is the guy who plays Matt Parkman in Heroes.
    Yes that was cool. I saw it too on SPACE. The smoke monster sucked him out of the cockpit fast! The other thing I noticed was that bitch" Shannon"(I really disliked her character,yuck!)anyway, she is in that new movie with Liam Neesom called "TAKEN". Her stupid scream gave her away.
    Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's Soul remains Unawakened.
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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    Obsidian22 wrote:
    jervin007 wrote:
    On a complete side note, I was watching the first episode of Lost season 1 last night and it turns out that the pilot Jack/Kate/Charlie find alive in the plane is the guy who plays Matt Parkman in Heroes.
    Yes that was cool. I saw it too on SPACE. The smoke monster sucked him out of the cockpit fast! The other thing I noticed was that bitch" Shannon"(I really disliked her character,yuck!)anyway, she is in that new movie with Liam Neesom called "TAKEN". Her stupid scream gave her away.

    My wife and I saw "Taken" and it was driving us crazy trying to think about where she was from. Thank God for imdb!
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • rrivers wrote:
    Obsidian22 wrote:
    jervin007 wrote:
    On a complete side note, I was watching the first episode of Lost season 1 last night and it turns out that the pilot Jack/Kate/Charlie find alive in the plane is the guy who plays Matt Parkman in Heroes.
    Yes that was cool. I saw it too on SPACE. The smoke monster sucked him out of the cockpit fast! The other thing I noticed was that bitch" Shannon"(I really disliked her character,yuck!)anyway, she is in that new movie with Liam Neesom called "TAKEN". Her stupid scream gave her away.

    My wife and I saw "Taken" and it was driving us crazy trying to think about where she was from. Thank God for imdb!
    Soooo wa sit any good? I am a huge fan of Liam Neesom. I really want to see the scene where he "nails" the guy in the knee . That's about as bad as Locke putting the grenade in Miles's mouth in last season or the one before that. Shit I am confused!LOL
    Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's Soul remains Unawakened.
    Anatole France
  • Yeah, I saw the previews for Taken and thought "Shannon dyed her hair!" I didn't miss her when she left Lost. When she was on there I kept thinking "Sayid, I know your choices are limited but what are you doing with that bimbo?" :roll:
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    So I happened to rewatch "Lockdown" (I think from Season 2) last night. And, if you recall, Ben (when he was Henry Gale) had to enter The Numbers into the computer because Locke was trapped when the blast doors came down. Somehow something went wrong and everything went haywire and a blacklight came on.

    Now, with what we know now...Ben would've known that would happen, right?? Did he MEAN for Locke to see that map on the wall?? Also, Ben would've know there was a Dharma supply drop, right?
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    So I happened to rewatch "Lockdown" (I think from Season 2) last night. And, if you recall, Ben (when he was Henry Gale) had to enter The Numbers into the computer because Locke was trapped when the blast doors came down. Somehow something went wrong and everything went haywire and a blacklight came on.

    Now, with what we know now...Ben would've known that would happen, right?? Did he MEAN for Locke to see that map on the wall?? Also, Ben would've know there was a Dharma supply drop, right?

    I usually think Ben is in complete control of what is going on, but maybe he did not know about the map.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    So I happened to rewatch "Lockdown" (I think from Season 2) last night. And, if you recall, Ben (when he was Henry Gale) had to enter The Numbers into the computer because Locke was trapped when the blast doors came down. Somehow something went wrong and everything went haywire and a blacklight came on.

    Now, with what we know now...Ben would've known that would happen, right?? Did he MEAN for Locke to see that map on the wall?? Also, Ben would've know there was a Dharma supply drop, right?

    I usually think Ben is in complete control of what is going on, but maybe he did not know about the map.

    Ben HAD to know about the map. Remember, they were monitoring the Swan station.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    So I happened to rewatch "Lockdown" (I think from Season 2) last night. And, if you recall, Ben (when he was Henry Gale) had to enter The Numbers into the computer because Locke was trapped when the blast doors came down. Somehow something went wrong and everything went haywire and a blacklight came on.

    Now, with what we know now...Ben would've known that would happen, right?? Did he MEAN for Locke to see that map on the wall?? Also, Ben would've know there was a Dharma supply drop, right?

    I usually think Ben is in complete control of what is going on, but maybe he did not know about the map.

    Ben HAD to know about the map. Remember, they were monitoring the Swan station.
    May be he knew then that Locke was going to become the new leader so he was kind of setting him up to learn more about the Island.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Ben HAD to know about the map. Remember, they were monitoring the Swan station.
    May be he knew then that Locke was going to become the new leader so he was kind of setting him up to learn more about the Island.[/quote]

    As far as I remember, and I could be wrong here, but I think that as of that point Locke was on The List (of people to capture and become Others) and it wasn't until later...after Ben was released that Jacob told Ben that Locke was the leader. (wow, this is so whacked and confusing!)
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    Ben HAD to know about the map. Remember, they were monitoring the Swan station.
    May be he knew then that Locke was going to become the new leader so he was kind of setting him up to learn more about the Island.

    As far as I remember, and I could be wrong here, but I think that as of that point Locke was on The List (of people to capture and become Others) and it wasn't until later...after Ben was released that Jacob told Ben that Locke was the leader. (wow, this is so whacked and confusing!)[/quote]

    Whaked and confusing does sum it up. I really can't wait to see what happens tonight.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Sawyer's line just now literally had me laughing out loud. Some crazy little twists going on tonight again.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
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