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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882
    Solat13 wrote:
    Crazy episode. I guess we know why Richard was at Locke's birth now and the whole reason behind the test he gave Locke when he was a little kid.

    On a side note, it was nice seeing the Filipino flag and seeing that Charlie was born in my mom's homeland. ;)
    Yeah, some nice answers tonight.
    And I wondered at the begining if Desmond had named the baby after anyone on the island, should have guessed Charlie straight away.

    As for the woman in bed being the Annie Oakley woman on the island, not sure yet, its possible since Farraday said she looked familiar, but the age doesn't line up unless she does the Richard non aging thing, but Widmore doesn't so I don't know if that makes sense.
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  • CG275693
    CG275693 Posts: 61
    CHANGEinWAVES wrote:
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    Widmore? Are your serious? This show kills me.
    yeah... weird... not enough time for all the answers!
    Well, we knew he was on the island at some point in his life. The question now is how and why did he leave. Usually when the Others leave they have a reason and the means to get back but he's been trying for years just find the island again.
  • CG275693
    CG275693 Posts: 61
    Poncier wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    As for the woman in bed being the Annie Oakley woman on the island, not sure yet, its possible since Farraday said she looked familiar, but the age doesn't line up unless she does the Richard non aging thing, but Widmore doesn't so I don't know if that makes sense.
    Maybe she time travels like Daniel. He doesn't age either because of that. But it doesn't seem like they'd be the same person since the woman in Oxford has a sister who would know all about her history and whether or not it included growing up on a mysterious island. :roll: I'm not sure what the connection is yet.

    I see Charlotte was getting pretty sick at the end of the episode. They cannot off her soon enough for me. She does nothing to advance the story anyway.
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Poncier wrote:
    If she was whisked off island as an infant and adopted by Pak, maybe not.

    Good point. Also, I'm wondering if that lady conceived on the island...and didn't die? So maybe it was possible that women USED to be able to have babies on the island? (Was that redundant enough?)

    Also, did anyone notice at the end when the Scottish soldiers, I'm guessing from the 1940s? claimed the island as theirs? That ties in nicely with Widmore being Scottish...I'm even wondering if perhaps he was the 'lead' soldier dude who told them to chop off her hand?

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  • tvismyfriend
    tvismyfriend Posts: 2,118
    CG275693 wrote:
    CHANGEinWAVES wrote:
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    Widmore? Are your serious? This show kills me.
    yeah... weird... not enough time for all the answers!
    Well, we knew he was on the island at some point in his life. The question now is how and why did he leave. Usually when the Others leave they have a reason and the means to get back but he's been trying for years just find the island again.
    From what I could tell there was some tension between Widmore and Richard in the episode when Locke went to the camp. Maybe Widmore tried some sort of mutany later on and was banished from the Island. If he was banished from the island, it would be a good reason as to why he wouldn't have a way back.
  • so-much-clearer
    so-much-clearer Posts: 303
    CG275693 wrote:
    Poncier wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    As for the woman in bed being the Annie Oakley woman on the island, not sure yet, its possible since Farraday said she looked familiar, but the age doesn't line up unless she does the Richard non aging thing, but Widmore doesn't so I don't know if that makes sense.
    Maybe she time travels like Daniel. He doesn't age either because of that. But it doesn't seem like they'd be the same person since the woman in Oxford has a sister who would know all about her history and whether or not it included growing up on a mysterious island. :roll: I'm not sure what the connection is yet.
    I see Charlotte was getting pretty sick at the end of the episode. They cannot off her soon enough for me. She does nothing to advance the story anyway.
    I too thought she was the same woman, and it's entirely possible. Remember that the guy at Oxford said Daniel was trying to send rats' BRAINS through time, not whole bodies. My guess is that she was subject to his testing and got stuck in the past, maybe as one of her ancestors. Desmond time travels this way too, in that he doesn't leave his present body but just sort of blacks out for a while. Her vegetative state is this "blackout". She might realize who/where she is if Daniel tells her, like Desmond did when Mrs. Hawking brought it to his attention.
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    One thing with Charlotte is she may need a "constatnt" like desomnd and Farrady did when they got sick last season, but she is not having the flashbacks like they did. I have a feleling that Bomb is going to come into play again though.
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  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    agreed that they can't kill off charlotte fast enough.

    i like that we found out why richard was visiting baby locke.

    also cool that desmond named the baby charlie (unless it was for charlie widmore :shock: )

    all of these connections and possibilities of people being younger/older versions of their character are really starting to confuse me!
  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    I love this thread because I come on here the day after to check if Im understanding what is going on..lol
    I thought i knew but last night i got confused. Who was that sick lady desmond visited..was that Daniel's lady?...I feel stupid! :P
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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    libragirl wrote:
    I love this thread because I come on here the day after to check if Im understanding what is going on..lol
    I thought i knew but last night i got confused. Who was that sick lady desmond visited..was that Daniel's lady?...I feel stupid! :P

    She was the same chick that was marching Faraday out to the bomb...at least I think so. :?
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  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    AmentsChick wrote:
    libragirl wrote:
    I love this thread because I come on here the day after to check if Im understanding what is going on..lol
    I thought i knew but last night i got confused. Who was that sick lady desmond visited..was that Daniel's lady?...I feel stupid! :P

    She was the same chick that was marching Faraday out to the bomb...at least I think so. :?

    ah, well that's what i was thinking..cuz he told her she looked familiar but i wasn't sure. alright, i might not be too screwed up then :D

    thanks!
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    I didn't come up with this - one of my friends from my old job did. But she thinks that the woman with the gun in the Others camp who took Farraday to the bomb was Daniel's mother which explains why he kept looking at her weird and recognized her. Plus the fact that we got Mrs. Hawkins name to be Eloise and the fact that one of the people in the camp called her Ellie. Also, Daniel's rat that he demonstrated time travel to Desmond with was named Eloise.

    Also, I wonder if it was the island that kept Locke from shooting Widmore.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
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    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    AmentsChick wrote:
    libragirl wrote:
    I love this thread because I come on here the day after to check if Im understanding what is going on..lol
    I thought i knew but last night i got confused. Who was that sick lady desmond visited..was that Daniel's lady?...I feel stupid! :P

    She was the same chick that was marching Faraday out to the bomb...at least I think so. :?

    I also read tha the girl with the gun may be Penny's mother.
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  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    Looking more and more like Mrs Hawkins is Daniel's mother.... especially since she is in LA at the same time (it seems) as Ben.
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  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    AmentsChick wrote:
    libragirl wrote:
    I love this thread because I come on here the day after to check if Im understanding what is going on..lol
    I thought i knew but last night i got confused. Who was that sick lady desmond visited..was that Daniel's lady?...I feel stupid! :P

    She was the same chick that was marching Faraday out to the bomb...at least I think so. :?

    I also read tha the girl with the gun may be Penny's mother.

    really? :?
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    nfanel wrote:
    also cool that desmond named the baby charlie (unless it was for charlie widmore :shock: )

    I think Desmond and Penny named their son Charlie after your Charlie. If it wasn't for Charlie on the radio with Penny before he sacrificed himself she never would have found the island.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
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    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    AmentsChick wrote:
    libragirl wrote:
    I love this thread because I come on here the day after to check if Im understanding what is going on..lol
    I thought i knew but last night i got confused. Who was that sick lady desmond visited..was that Daniel's lady?...I feel stupid! :P

    She was the same chick that was marching Faraday out to the bomb...at least I think so. :?

    I also read tha the girl with the gun may be Penny's mother.
    What if it was Faraday's mom???
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    tybird wrote:
    What if it was Faraday's mom???

    I really think that the woman with the gun, Ellie, is Daniel's mom which is why he stared at her funny. Ellie is also short for Heloise which is Mrs. Hawkins first name.

    Now we just have to figure out why Farrady and Mrs. Hawkins have different last names.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Solat13 wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    What if it was Faraday's mom???

    I really think that the woman with the gun, Ellie, is Daniel's mom which is why he stared at her funny. Ellie is also short for Heloise which is Mrs. Hawkins first name.

    Now we just have to figure out why Farrady and Mrs. Hawkins have different last names.
    The others have lied about their names before, eh?
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  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    Solat13 wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    What if it was Faraday's mom???

    I really think that the woman with the gun, Ellie, is Daniel's mom which is why he stared at her funny. Ellie is also short for Heloise which is Mrs. Hawkins first name.

    Now we just have to figure out why Farrady and Mrs. Hawkins have different last names.

    That can explained away as easily as her keeping her madien name and Farraday taking his birth father's last name.
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