Nothing against Jones. He will get better. But I hope they let Eli play the rest of the way. 7 games is enough to be ready for next year.
Just keep posting this every week until week 17, Eli isn't playing unless Jones gets hurt.
I can see them playing Eli in the last game of the season as a Goodbye Sendoff to IgotId
or this Monday night against the Eagles
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
This division might be won with a 7-9 record. And we gave up after the 2nd week. Pisses me off
Giants weren't getting to 7-9 with Eli or anyone else at QB. Take the top 5 draft pick and build the Daniel Jones era.
And the Cowboys and Eagles were supposed to have better records. You never know.
What exactly do you think the Giants record would be with Eli Manning playing all year?
Jones' numbers this year are actually comparable to Manning's career numbers in some key categories---qb rating is identical, as is completion percentage. He's only 3 td's behind Eli's total last year in 6 less games.
I think you're delusional if you think the Giants thought they'd win 9 or so games with Eli and instead tanked. They knew the team was bad with or without Eli at the helm. They actually made the correct decision for once and went with their future qb.
All that said, I am happy to see Eli tomorrow. His career started at the Linc. It should end there as well.
This division might be won with a 7-9 record. And we gave up after the 2nd week. Pisses me off
Giants weren't getting to 7-9 with Eli or anyone else at QB. Take the top 5 draft pick and build the Daniel Jones era.
And the Cowboys and Eagles were supposed to have better records. You never know.
What exactly do you think the Giants record would be with Eli Manning playing all year?
Jones' numbers this year are actually comparable to Manning's career numbers in some key categories---qb rating is identical, as is completion percentage. He's only 3 td's behind Eli's total last year in 6 less games.
I think you're delusional if you think the Giants thought they'd win 9 or so games with Eli and instead tanked. They knew the team was bad with or without Eli at the helm. They actually made the correct decision for once and went with their future qb.
All that said, I am happy to see Eli tomorrow. His career started at the Linc. It should end there as well.
I am SO happy to see him play again. It's bittersweet. But im going to enjoy this game no matter what happens.
Solder sucks. Defense can't make a big stop if their life depended on it. Had 2 interceptions that could have ended the game. Eli did well considering he had no protection
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Solder sucks. Defense can't make a big stop if their life depended on it. Had 2 interceptions that could have ended the game. Eli did well considering he had no protection
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You win two SB MVP's, it shouldn't even be a debate...
Exactly
...but the reason there is some debate is that he's been average for most of his career outside of those two runs. His career has long interested me. It's unlike most in NFL history:
As we’ve detailed before, the youngest Manning brother has been a very average quarterback over the course of his NFL career. In fact, according to Pro-Football-Reference.com’s advanced passing index, he is one of the most average QBs ever, checking in with a lifetime adjusted net yards per attempt (ANY/A) index of 101 (where 100 is dead-average for the era). Manning’s durability has managed to keep him in the lineup longer than most other passers — more on that later — but on a rate basis, there hasn’t been much special about Manning’s career passing efficiency numbers.
The way Eli got to average, however, was anything but. Among qualified QBs since the merger, Manning is the only one to grade out as average or better by ANY/A while simultaneously rating below average in completion percentage, yards per attempt and interception percentage. He pulled off that feat by being better than average at throwing for touchdowns — and he’s had plenty of memorable TD strikes over the years — while ranking as one of the best in history at avoiding sacks (something else that shows up in his signature moments). Unlike his brother Peyton, who became an all-time legend by excelling in basically the same categories as other great QBs did, Eli did it his own way, as always.
And then there are the epic highs and ignoble lows of Manning’s tenure in New York. Although his yearly efficiency marks have — somewhat surprisingly — not bounced around too much more than those of his peers, Manning has compounded his regular-season performances with playoff numbers that have been all over the place. When he was leading the Giants to a pair of Super Bowl victories after the 2007 and 2011 seasons, Manning went a perfect (by definition) 8-0 with a passer rating (100.1) nearly 7 points higher than he ever had in any single regular season of his career. In all of his other postseason appearances combined, he went 0-4 with a rating (61.8) about 8 poin
For such an average quarterback, Manning became a much more extreme version of himself in the playoffs — which worked wonders twice and failed badly on four other occasions. Now, you might expect most Super Bowl-winning QBs to have such a split; after all, the team is also much more likely to win when its starting QB plays better. But even relative to other multi-time Super Bowl winners, Manning stands out. None of them were worse by quarterback rating in their non-Super Bowl winning playoff runs, and only Troy Aikman had a bigger split in QB ratings between years when he won the Super Bowl and years when he didn’t.
He's played with really bad offensive lines for most of his career. Even had bad defenses and special teams that cost them games. He was able to win a Super Bowl with a 31st ranked defense. But that's hardly the case. I mean he lost 3 games to 60+ yard field goals. Lost a game to a punt return td. . That's after getting back the lead. Those are just a few examples. Unfortunately the qb gets the wins/losses. If he was with the Steelers. He would have a better record.
But if this is the end. He will be in the top 10 in TDs and Yards. 2 Super Bowls. If Plaxico didn't shoot himself a very good chance for 3.
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or this Monday night against the Eagles
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
if I was a nerd, maybe I’d understand this....
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
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Take the top 5 draft pick and build the Daniel Jones era.
Also wasn't expecting to be benched so early
https://www.giants.com/video/player-spotlight-eli-manning-preps-for-starting-role-on-monday-night-football?fbclid=IwAR1rhflXZiR3hd9l49qjP4PVFD-y6gwV0MpZ-VkV4ESUI7B9WSDF7bOvq5g
Jones' numbers this year are actually comparable to Manning's career numbers in some key categories---qb rating is identical, as is completion percentage. He's only 3 td's behind Eli's total last year in 6 less games.
I think you're delusional if you think the Giants thought they'd win 9 or so games with Eli and instead tanked. They knew the team was bad with or without Eli at the helm. They actually made the correct decision for once and went with their future qb.
All that said, I am happy to see Eli tomorrow. His career started at the Linc. It should end there as well.
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/eli-manning-was-an-all-time-average-qb/
Eli Manning Was An All-Time Average QB
As we’ve detailed before, the youngest Manning brother has been a very average quarterback over the course of his NFL career. In fact, according to Pro-Football-Reference.com’s advanced passing index, he is one of the most average QBs ever, checking in with a lifetime adjusted net yards per attempt (ANY/A) index of 101 (where 100 is dead-average for the era). Manning’s durability has managed to keep him in the lineup longer than most other passers — more on that later — but on a rate basis, there hasn’t been much special about Manning’s career passing efficiency numbers.
The way Eli got to average, however, was anything but. Among qualified QBs since the merger, Manning is the only one to grade out as average or better by ANY/A while simultaneously rating below average in completion percentage, yards per attempt and interception percentage. He pulled off that feat by being better than average at throwing for touchdowns — and he’s had plenty of memorable TD strikes over the years — while ranking as one of the best in history at avoiding sacks (something else that shows up in his signature moments). Unlike his brother Peyton, who became an all-time legend by excelling in basically the same categories as other great QBs did, Eli did it his own way, as always.
And then there are the epic highs and ignoble lows of Manning’s tenure in New York. Although his yearly efficiency marks have — somewhat surprisingly — not bounced around too much more than those of his peers, Manning has compounded his regular-season performances with playoff numbers that have been all over the place. When he was leading the Giants to a pair of Super Bowl victories after the 2007 and 2011 seasons, Manning went a perfect (by definition) 8-0 with a passer rating (100.1) nearly 7 points higher than he ever had in any single regular season of his career. In all of his other postseason appearances combined, he went 0-4 with a rating (61.8) about 8 poin
For such an average quarterback, Manning became a much more extreme version of himself in the playoffs — which worked wonders twice and failed badly on four other occasions. Now, you might expect most Super Bowl-winning QBs to have such a split; after all, the team is also much more likely to win when its starting QB plays better. But even relative to other multi-time Super Bowl winners, Manning stands out. None of them were worse by quarterback rating in their non-Super Bowl winning playoff runs, and only Troy Aikman had a bigger split in QB ratings between years when he won the Super Bowl and years when he didn’t.
But if this is the end. He will be in the top 10 in TDs and Yards. 2 Super Bowls. If Plaxico didn't shoot himself a very good chance for 3.