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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    The Fixer wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    ryan is a career .272 hitter and has a higher career average, slugging and ops than the greatest phillie of all time michael jack schmidt.

    this is fucking hilarious. first you compare him to ted williams and now mike schmidt

    well i didn't make that shit up, those are FACTS. i know it's hard for you to see with such blind hatred for the man.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    ryan is a career .272 hitter and has a higher career average, slugging and ops than the greatest phillie of all time michael jack schmidt.

    this is fucking hilarious. first you compare him to ted williams and now mike schmidt

    well i didn't make that shit up, those are FACTS. i know it's hard for you to see with such blind hatred for the man.

    as his downtrend continues on this path he will be luckily to finish his career with an avg above 240

    read the link I posted above
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Ended up at the Valley Forge Casino on Thursday. I had never even heard of the place.

    Not bad. They have $15 blackjack. I had the best BJ night of my life as I walked away with $600. I love me some blackjack.

    This came up at our table multiple times throughout our session...when the dealer shows an ace, 2, or 3 and you have a 12-14 do you take a card or stay?? things got heated towards the end of the night.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    edited September 2012
    The Fixer wrote:
    as his downtrend continues on this path he will be luckily to finish his career with an avg above 240

    read the link I posted above


    well let's bring some facts into your ridiculous assertion.

    ryan currently has 1099 hits in 4043 at-bats for a .272 career average.

    if the plays 5 more years and averages 400 at bats (below his average but lets take some at bats away for age and injury) for 2000 more at bats to get down to a .240 average he could only get 352 hits in those 2000 at bats since 1451/6043 gives you a .240 career average/ so ryan would have to have an average over 5 years of .176. to lower his career average to .240. virutally zero chance of that happenning.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    The Fixer wrote:
    Ended up at the Valley Forge Casino on Thursday. I had never even heard of the place.

    Not bad. They have $15 blackjack. I had the best BJ night of my life as I walked away with $600. I love me some blackjack.

    This came up at our table multiple times throughout our session...when the dealer shows an ace, 2, or 3 and you have a 12-14 do you take a card or stay?? things got heated towards the end of the night.

    dealer ace - always take a hit. for a dealer to bust with a starting ace they need to have an ace to six under and turn over 2 cards 7 or above to bust. beating a dealer ace is one of the lowest percentages in blackjack so you have to make a really good hand to beat it.

    dealer 2s and 3s are some of the most difficult decisions in blackjack.

    - hit 12 against a 2 (i do and it never fucking works but supposedly you are supposed to).
    - supposedly you are to hit 13 against a 2 but i never do.
    - you should hit a 12 against a 3 as well but it's not something i do all the time. that is one i play more by feel and what the other people at the table are like.
    - never hit a 14 against a 2 or 3.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    as his downtrend continues on this path he will be luckily to finish his career with an avg above 240

    read the link I posted above


    well let's bring some facts into your ridiculous assertion.

    ryan currently has 1099 hits in 4043 at-bats for a .272 career average.

    if the plays 5 more years and averages 400 at bats (below his average but lets take some at bats away for age and injury) for 2000 more at bats to get down to a .240 average he could only get 352 hits in those 2000 at bats since 1451/6043 gives you a .240 career average/ so ryan would have to have an average over 5 years of .176. to lower his career average to .240. virutally zero chance of that happenning.

    it was an exaggeration dude. after your ridiculous post I felt like it was appropriate
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Ended up at the Valley Forge Casino on Thursday. I had never even heard of the place.

    Not bad. They have $15 blackjack. I had the best BJ night of my life as I walked away with $600. I love me some blackjack.

    This came up at our table multiple times throughout our session...when the dealer shows an ace, 2, or 3 and you have a 12-14 do you take a card or stay?? things got heated towards the end of the night.

    dealer ace - always take a hit. for a dealer to bust with a starting ace they need to have an ace to six under and turn over 2 cards 7 or above to bust. beating a dealer ace is one of the lowest percentages in blackjack so you have to make a really good hand to beat it.

    dealer 2s and 3s are some of the most difficult decisions in blackjack.

    - hit 12 against a 2 (i do and it never fucking works but supposedly you are supposed to).
    - supposedly you are to hit 13 against a 2 but i never do.
    - you should hit a 12 against a 3 as well but it's not something i do all the time. that is one i play more by feel and what the other people at the table are like.
    - never hit a 14 against a 2 or 3.

    I kept hitting my 12's and 13's and these dipshits that passed thru our table around 2 AM were giving me all kinds of shit. I was drunk by that point and I just didn't want to listen to them. I asked them how they were doing tonight and they all said shitty. then I showed them my stacks of chips and told them to lick my balls. they stopped serving beer at 2, so this is right around the time we left.

    nothing worse than when the dealer shows an ace. I was busting them up on 12's and 13's though. one of my friends was calling me a retarded genius

    I don''t really like casinos, but I do enjoy blackjack.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    another thing I was doing that I took shit for was doubling down every time the dealer had a six showing and I had anything less than 12. I could have a two and three and I'm doubling against her six (if not splitting that type of hand...I'm not even sure if you can split two diff card numbers like a 2 and 3)
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,354
    Yeah, hit a 12 against a 2 or 3, stay on 13. These are borderline cases though. Playing on feel wouldn't be a horrible thing to do. Gotta hit on anything up to 16 against an ace. $15 blackjack sounds good. I hate dipshits who think they know all the "rules" when they really don't. I sit there and say "I'm an actuary, and you don't even understand what that is and you certainly don't understand what's going on here at this table."


    Team gets to 3 games back Friday night (still a long shot). I pay for my playoff tixx Saturday morning. Team tanks rest of the weekend. Ain't life a bitch. :mrgreen:
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,354
    The Fixer wrote:
    another thing I was doing that I took shit for was doubling down every time the dealer had a six showing and I had anything less than 12. I could have a two and three and I'm doubling against her six (if not splitting that type of hand...I'm not even sure if you can split two diff card numbers like a 2 and 3)

    Can only split two of the same card.

    Never split 10's (or 5's I'm pretty sure). Always split aces & 8's. Split 7's against 2 through 7. Split 2's & 3's against 4, 5 & 6 I think - starts to get confusing. Split 9's against something weird like 7 & 9, maybe. I have no idea when you might want to split 4's.

    You're allowed to bring a cheat sheet to the blackjack table, and you can use it to shut up the morons who don't know what they're doing.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Yeah, hit a 12 against a 2 or 3, stay on 13. These are borderline cases though. Playing on feel wouldn't be a horrible thing to do. Gotta hit on anything up to 16 against an ace. $15 blackjack sounds good. I hate dipshits who think they know all the "rules" when they really don't. I sit there and say "I'm an actuary, and you don't even understand what that is and you certainly don't understand what's going on here at this table."


    Team gets to 3 games back Friday night (still a long shot). I pay for my playoff tixx Saturday morning. Team tanks rest of the weekend. Ain't life a bitch. :mrgreen:

    I guess that's the kind of crowd you get at $15 tables. It actually helped though. I always have a tough time walking away from a table...especially when I'm drunk.

    As for playoff tix...I laughed when I got that email. I wasn't sending a dime. The less of a FA budget amaro has, the better off this team will be
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    The Fixer wrote:
    another thing I was doing that I took shit for was doubling down every time the dealer had a six showing and I had anything less than 12. I could have a two and three and I'm doubling against her six (if not splitting that type of hand...I'm not even sure if you can split two diff card numbers like a 2 and 3)

    that's the right play against a dealer 6. doubles and splits are how you make money at blackjack. most blackjack sittings positive or negative comes down to those hands. if you win a high percentage of doubles and splits you will make money every time. the regular house advantage in blackjack i think is only 52-48 so getting and hitting doubles and splits moves the percentages nearer to even. against a dealer 6 im begging for a split and then two cards to double so i have up to 4 hands going.

    the key to blackjack to me is sitting and sustaining during average to lousy shoes and having the patience to wait for a good one. then once you get a shoe that turns your way to hit it and hit it hard. i'll play $10-$15 tables but when you get on a run i've gone up to $100 a hand. it's how to make money.

    other advice i'd give is if you get on a full table where everyone knows what they are doing hang at the table as long as possible because when the cards are played the correct way at least 1 or 2 people at the table will make money.

    sitting at a fun blackjack table, either full of friends or full of good people to hang with is such a great time.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    another thing I was doing that I took shit for was doubling down every time the dealer had a six showing and I had anything less than 12. I could have a two and three and I'm doubling against her six (if not splitting that type of hand...I'm not even sure if you can split two diff card numbers like a 2 and 3)

    Can only split two of the same card.

    Never split 10's (or 5's I'm pretty sure). Always split aces & 8's. Split 7's against 2 through 7. Split 2's & 3's against 4, 5 & 6 I think - starts to get confusing. Split 9's against something weird like 7 & 9, maybe. I have no idea when you might want to split 4's.

    You're allowed to bring a cheat sheet to the blackjack table, and you can use it to shut up the morons who don't know what they're doing.

    I hate the always split 8's rule. If dealer shows a ten I always lose. I'd rather just take a card on my 16. Should be a law that you can't stay on 16 vs a ten...ever.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,354
    pjhawks wrote:
    other advice i'd give is if you get on a full table where everyone knows what they are doing hang at the table as long as possible because when the cards are played the correct way at least 1 or 2 people at the table will make money.

    Statistically speaking, the way everyone else at the table plays should not affect how much money any individual makes. Even if it seems otherwise at times.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,354
    The Fixer wrote:
    I hate the always split 8's rule. If dealer shows a ten I always lose. I'd rather just take a card on my 16. Should be a law that you can't stay on 16 vs a ten...ever.

    Just take your medicine and split 'em. You're trying to just break even on the hand.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    another thing I was doing that I took shit for was doubling down every time the dealer had a six showing and I had anything less than 12. I could have a two and three and I'm doubling against her six (if not splitting that type of hand...I'm not even sure if you can split two diff card numbers like a 2 and 3)

    that's the right play against a dealer 6. doubles and splits are how you make money at blackjack. most blackjack sittings positive or negative comes down to those hands. if you win a high percentage of doubles and splits you will make money every time. the regular house advantage in blackjack i think is only 52-48 so getting and hitting doubles and splits moves the percentages nearer to even. against a dealer 6 im begging for a split and then two cards to double so i have up to 4 hands going.

    the key to blackjack to me is sitting and sustaining during average to lousy shoes and having the patience to wait for a good one. then once you get a shoe that turns your way to hit it and hit it hard. i'll play $10-$15 tables but when you get on a run i've gone up to $100 a hand. it's how to make money.

    other advice i'd give is if you get on a full table where everyone knows what they are doing hang at the table as long as possible because when the cards are played the correct way at least 1 or 2 people at the table will make money.

    sitting at a fun blackjack table, either full of friends or full of good people to hang with is such a great time.

    this is the best post you have ever had. esp your first paragraph, which sounds exactly like me

    you have to press when you're on a hot streak.

    I tend to be an aggressive player (esp on a $15 table). some people get mad. I don't really give a shit. I feel like I know what I'm doing 90% of the time
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    I hate the always split 8's rule. If dealer shows a ten I always lose. I'd rather just take a card on my 16. Should be a law that you can't stay on 16 vs a ten...ever.

    Just take your medicine and split 'em. You're trying to just break even on the hand.

    exactly. isn't trying to break even a losing strategy? I don't like giving hands away.

    I follow the rule, but I don't agree with it (I know this doesn't make sense)
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    I hate the always split 8's rule. If dealer shows a ten I always lose. I'd rather just take a card on my 16. Should be a law that you can't stay on 16 vs a ten...ever.

    Just take your medicine and split 'em. You're trying to just break even on the hand.

    I follow the rule, but I don't agree with it (I know this doesn't make sense)

    i do the same. i do it but i don't really think you should.

    and i also think you should split 10s against a dealer 6 but i've never done it. i know they say to never split 10s but it really does make sense to do it against a 6.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,246
    ^^^^ an entire page of blackjack strategy :lol:

    I guess you guys have waved the white flag
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,354
    imalive wrote:
    ^^^^ an entire page of blackjack strategy :lol:

    I guess you guys have waved the white flag

    Whatever. You know that more than half of this thread is on shit that has nothing to do with baseball. :lol:
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