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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,024
    Cliffy, the Yanks still had a significantly higher payroll than the Phillies so I don't see how you can "rub it in". :?

    Expectations, payroll or not. We didn't see it as a foregone conclusion that there would be a parade down the canyon of heroes all year.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,354
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Cliffy, the Yanks still had a significantly higher payroll than the Phillies so I don't see how you can "rub it in". :?

    Expectations, payroll or not. We didn't see it as a foregone conclusion that there would be a parade down the canyon of heroes all year.

    Whatever makes you feel better.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,024
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Cliffy, the Yanks still had a significantly higher payroll than the Phillies so I don't see how you can "rub it in". :?

    Expectations, payroll or not. We didn't see it as a foregone conclusion that there would be a parade down the canyon of heroes all year.

    Whatever makes you feel better.

    I'm over it. Enjoyed it for 24 hours or so. Enjoying the thread today though.
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I knew it would get good in here today.
    Besides Rollins,Utley and Doc the whole team sucked ass. It was a good season that ended way too early. If a fan of this team didn't enjoy the regular season then there not really a fan of that team. The ultimate goal wasn't reached and that can be blamed on the WHOLE TEAM. Oh and Vance worley sucking was another wrong statement.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    edited October 2011
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Expectations, payroll or not. We didn't see it as a foregone conclusion that there would be a parade down the canyon of heroes all year.

    Whatever makes you feel better.

    I'm over it. Enjoyed it for 24 hours or so. Enjoying the thread today though.

    just remember cliff, as long as the team does well in the regular season and makes the playoffs that's all that matters. most in this thread don't need to even watch the postseason since playoff success is gravy

    and expecting the team with the 2nd highest payroll in MLB, who is favored to win it all, to get to the WS is irrational and pompous...even if some here were talking shit about this team all season.
    Post edited by The Fixer on
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I knew it would get good in here today.
    Besides Rollins,Utley and Doc the whole team sucked ass. It was a good season that ended way too early. If a fan of this team didn't enjoy the regular season then there not really a fan of that team. The ultimate goal wasn't reached and that can be blamed on the WHOLE TEAM. Oh and Vance worley sucking was another wrong statement.

    ah look, it's mr ryan howard himsself. was wondering if you would appear back here again. you should be on probation in this thread until your boy's contract is up. see you in 5 years
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,024
    The Fixer wrote:

    just remember cliff, as long as the team does well in the regular season and makes the playoffs that's all that matters. most in this thread don't need to even watch the postseason since playoff success is gravy

    and expecting the team with the 2nd highest payroll in MLB, who is favored to win it all, to win the WS is irrational and pompous...even if some here were talking shit about this team all season.

    That was my point yesterday or whenever. I was under the impression it was a cake walk to lifting the trophy, now no one gives a shit.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    edited October 2011
    The Fixer wrote:
    just remember cliff, as long as the team does well in the regular season and makes the playoffs that's all that matters. most in this thread don't need to even watch the postseason since playoff success is gravy

    and expecting the team with the 2nd highest payroll in MLB, who is favored to win it all, to get to the WS is irrational and pompous...even if some here were talking shit about this team all season.

    dude should we have expected a world series title or did the team suck and you aren't surprised they lost? you've been jerking yourself because you predicted a flame out but now you say you expected a world series title? which is it???
    Post edited by pjhawks on
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    The Fixer wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I knew it would get good in here today.
    Besides Rollins,Utley and Doc the whole team sucked ass. It was a good season that ended way too early. If a fan of this team didn't enjoy the regular season then there not really a fan of that team. The ultimate goal wasn't reached and that can be blamed on the WHOLE TEAM. Oh and Vance worley sucking was another wrong statement.

    ah look, it's mr ryan howard himsself. was wondering if you would appear back here again. you should be on probation in this thread until your boy's contract is up. see you in 5 years
    As i've said before i like Howard even though he's over paid. I've never said he wasn't overpaid,i said that he's been extremely productive.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    just remember cliff, as long as the team does well in the regular season and makes the playoffs that's all that matters. most in this thread don't need to even watch the postseason since playoff success is gravy

    and expecting the team with the 2nd highest payroll in MLB, who is favored to win it all, to get to the WS is irrational and pompous...even if some here were talking shit about this team all season.

    dude should we have expected a world series title or did the team suck and you aren't surprised they lost? you've been jerking yourself because you predicted a flame out but now you say you expected a world series title? which is it???

    I expected them to get there. They were favored to win it all. In vegas they don't know how bad ryan howard is
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    Besides Rollins,Utley and Doc the whole team sucked ass. It was a good season that ended way too early. If a fan of this team didn't enjoy the regular season then there not really a fan of that team. The ultimate goal wasn't reached and that can be blamed on the WHOLE TEAM. Oh and Vance worley sucking was another wrong statement.

    ah look, it's mr ryan howard himsself. was wondering if you would appear back here again. you should be on probation in this thread until your boy's contract is up. see you in 5 years
    As i've said before i like Howard even though he's over paid. I've never said he wasn't overpaid,i said that he's been extremely productive.

    you need to start watching him in the playoffs. highest playoff strikeout rate EVER!!

    he sucks
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    The Fixer wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    just remember cliff, as long as the team does well in the regular season and makes the playoffs that's all that matters. most in this thread don't need to even watch the postseason since playoff success is gravy

    and expecting the team with the 2nd highest payroll in MLB, who is favored to win it all, to get to the WS is irrational and pompous...even if some here were talking shit about this team all season.

    dude should we have expected a world series title or did the team suck and you aren't surprised they lost? you've been jerking yourself because you predicted a flame out but now you say you expected a world series title? which is it???

    I expected them to get there. They were favored to win it all. In vegas they don't know how bad ryan howard is

    your logic just does not make any sense.

    on one hand: they suck! they suck! worst offense ever! horrendous bullpen! idiot manager! etc etc etc
    on the other: you expected them to be in the world series and are shocked they didn't end up there. :?

    you're bipoloar, right? :lol:
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    Shouldn't we be upating the thread title?
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    your logic just does not make any sense.

    on one hand: they suck! they suck! worst offense ever! horrendous bullpen! idiot manager! etc etc etc
    on the other: you expected them to be in the world series and are shocked they didn't end up there. :?

    you're bipoloar, right? :lol:

    my logic??? you're the guy that consistently said how great this team was. even up to the day before game 5 when you wondered what everyone was freaking out about :roll: . then they lose and you say it's no big deal...that shit happens. so yeah, my logic doesn't make sense...oK dude whatever

    you are overly optimisic brother. about all the philly teams (except the flyers since you don't like all sports)

    I'm a realist. I said the phils were the best team in the NL all season. Everyone expected them to make the playofss and get to the world series (me included). the difference is tha I didn't think it would be as easy as you guys becasue I recognized a flawed team, not 'the best team ever' that everyone else saw.

    hate me for being right. it's alright, I can handle it. I wish you would stop focusing on what I say and talk baseball more often. You still haven't expressed what you would do with the roster for next season. You just sit back and wait for me to say shit, then wait to pick me apart if I'm wrong (which doesn't happen often)
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    ]

    ah look, it's mr ryan howard himsself. was wondering if you would appear back here again. you should be on probation in this thread until your boy's contract is up. see you in 5 years[/quote]
    As i've said before i like Howard even though he's over paid. I've never said he wasn't overpaid,i said that he's been extremely productive.[/quote]

    you need to start watching him in the playoffs. highest playoff strikeout rate EVER!!

    he sucks[/quote]

    Maybe i should start with my 2008 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP DVD!!!!
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    ]

    ah look, it's mr ryan howard himsself. was wondering if you would appear back here again. you should be on probation in this thread until your boy's contract is up. see you in 5 years
    As i've said before i like Howard even though he's over paid. I've never said he wasn't overpaid,i said that he's been extremely productive.[/quote]

    you need to start watching him in the playoffs. highest playoff strikeout rate EVER!!

    he sucks[/quote]

    Maybe i should start with my 2008 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP DVD!!!![/quote]

    yeah, I liked him a lot better when he didn't suck. post-08 howard is no bueno.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    The Fixer wrote:
    your logic just does not make any sense.

    on one hand: they suck! they suck! worst offense ever! horrendous bullpen! idiot manager! etc etc etc
    on the other: you expected them to be in the world series and are shocked they didn't end up there. :?

    you're bipoloar, right? :lol:

    my logic??? you're the guy that consistently said how great this team was. even up to the day before game 5 when you wondered what everyone was freaking out about :roll: . then they lose and you say it's no big deal...that shit happens. so yeah, my logic doesn't make sense...oK dude whatever

    you are overly optimisic brother. about all the philly teams (except the flyers since you don't like all sports)

    I'm a realist. I said the phils were the best team in the NL all season. Everyone expected them to make the playofss and get to the world series (me included). the difference is tha I didn't think it would be as easy as you guys becasue I recognized a flawed team, not 'the best team ever' that everyone else saw.

    hate me for being right. it's alright, I can handle it. I wish you would stop focusing on what I say and talk baseball more often. You still haven't expressed what you would do with the roster for next season. You just sit back and wait for me to say shit, then wait to pick me apart if I'm wrong (which doesn't happen often)

    don't you see the irony? you said they would be in the world series...which is literally exactly where everyone else predicted they would end up. yet you come on here and spend the last 3 days saying "i told you so" "i told you so" like a little kid. that shit's funny to me.

    and 102 wins was a great regular season. it ultimately came up short. shit actually does happen. what do you want me to say? :lol: the difference between you and me is that i can at least enjoy the baseball season. you've seemed miserable since youv'e started posting in here.

    can't win the world series ever year dude. all the more reason to at least try to enjoy the ride. ;)
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,254
    you guys have been arguing for like 10 pages and no one's winning :lol:

    fixer might be slightly ahead on points, tho.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    your logic just does not make any sense.

    on one hand: they suck! they suck! worst offense ever! horrendous bullpen! idiot manager! etc etc etc
    on the other: you expected them to be in the world series and are shocked they didn't end up there. :?

    you're bipoloar, right? :lol:

    my logic??? you're the guy that consistently said how great this team was. even up to the day before game 5 when you wondered what everyone was freaking out about :roll: . then they lose and you say it's no big deal...that shit happens. so yeah, my logic doesn't make sense...oK dude whatever

    you are overly optimisic brother. about all the philly teams (except the flyers since you don't like all sports)

    I'm a realist. I said the phils were the best team in the NL all season. Everyone expected them to make the playofss and get to the world series (me included). the difference is tha I didn't think it would be as easy as you guys becasue I recognized a flawed team, not 'the best team ever' that everyone else saw.

    hate me for being right. it's alright, I can handle it. I wish you would stop focusing on what I say and talk baseball more often. You still haven't expressed what you would do with the roster for next season. You just sit back and wait for me to say shit, then wait to pick me apart if I'm wrong (which doesn't happen often)

    don't you see the irony? you said they would be in the world series...which is literally exactly where everyone else predicted they would end up. yet you come on here and spend the last 3 days saying "i told you so" "i told you so" like a little kid. that shit's funny to me.

    and 102 wins was a great regular season. it ultimately came up short. shit actually does happen. what do you want me to say? :lol: the difference between you and me is that i can at least enjoy the baseball season. you've seemed miserable since youv'e started posting in here.

    can't win the world series ever year dude. all the more reason to at least try to enjoy the ride. ;)

    and i find it funny that you're OK with a team winning 102 games and choking in round 1 of the playoffs. especially after you talked so much shit about how great this team was ALL YEAR!!!

    it's pretty obvious you're not a baseball guy. the eagles lose in the playoffs and you demand changes. the phils pull off one of the biggest choke jobs in MLB history and it's no big deal. not to mention you still won't answer my question about what you'd do with the roster for next year. would be great to talk baseball with you for a change. for some reason you prefer to argue nonsense though

    just make sure you keep the pom poms in a safe place so you can bust them out again next april. apparently you care just as much about the early season games as the playoff games ('what's everyone freaking out about? it's only a game 5 elimination game' classic).

    makes no sense to me. then again I find most posts in this thread mind boggling
  • Alright so who does everyone want to see win the World Series? I'm gong with the Rangers cause they never won it before. And actually the Brewers never won it either. And both teams have been around since the 60's. Makes the "2-Time World Champion Florida Marlins" sound all the stranger.
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