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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    And apparently he looked worse in left. I'd actually try him out in center - just for my own crazy reasonings.
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,971
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    And apparently he looked worse in left. I'd actually try him out in center - just for my own crazy reasonings.

    Something about his lefthandedness looked really weird in RF. I don't know.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,654
    what's this I hear about pence being sub-par defensively? :shock: :fp:
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,971
    imalive wrote:
    what's this I hear about pence being sub-par defensively? :shock: :fp:

    Enjoy the show. It's something like "A Nightmare in Right Field". :lol:

    One comment I read said that it was 12 years too late for Hunter Pence to play outfield in Candlestick Park. :lol:

    Other thing I read said Pence is a marginal offensive upgrade for the Giants, offset by his poorer defense. Think the Dodgers will be more helped by the Victorino acquisition.

    Enjoy! :mrgreen:
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,654
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

    Other thing I read said Pence is a marginal offensive upgrade for the Giants, offset by his poorer defense. Think the Dodgers will be more helped by the Victorino acquisition.

    Enjoy! :mrgreen:

    I have no doubt pence's so-called "power" will disappear at at&t park. it ain't a bandbox like cbp or enron.

    that said, I don't see the addition of victorino as much to worry about.

    your shitty season may turn out to be a blessing in disguise....get some prospects, play some young guys, etc.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,971
    imalive wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

    Other thing I read said Pence is a marginal offensive upgrade for the Giants, offset by his poorer defense. Think the Dodgers will be more helped by the Victorino acquisition.

    Enjoy! :mrgreen:

    I have no doubt pence's so-called "power" will disappear at at&t park. it ain't a bandbox like cbp or enron.

    that said, I don't see the addition of victorino as much to worry about.

    your shitty season may turn out to be a blessing in disguise....get some prospects, play some young guys, etc.

    Hey, this Shierholtz guy sure can catch the ball. :P
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    I have no doubt pence's so-called "power" will disappear at at&t park. it ain't a bandbox like cbp or enron.

    that said, I don't see the addition of victorino as much to worry about.

    your shitty season may turn out to be a blessing in disguise....get some prospects, play some young guys, etc.

    Hey, this Shierholtz guy sure can catch the ball. :P

    I immediately texted like 10 people last night saying, "Pence doesn't make that catch."
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,654
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

    Hey, this Shierholtz guy sure can catch the ball. :P

    EXCELLENT defensively. I already have remorse. :?
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,971
    imalive wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

    Hey, this Shierholtz guy sure can catch the ball. :P

    EXCELLENT defensively. I already have remorse. :?

    He did not have friendly words for Bochy.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    imalive wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

    Hey, this Shierholtz guy sure can catch the ball. :P

    EXCELLENT defensively. I already have remorse. :?

    wait until pence misreads a routine fly ball in the playoffs. inevitability can be fun. unless is the realization is that certain contracts suck (funny here) and your GM is completely inept (not funny here). wait, neither scenario is funny.

    good times!!

    where are the pom pom wavers that popped up after the sweep of penco tech of the blind?? shit, those wins didn't mean anything??

    like I said when trade went down...big schierholtz fan. solid all around player. best case - jayson werth ...worst case - jim eisenreich. good and good.

    now trade the big pear. he is so fat and so shitty. and so overpaid
  • JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    So in the 3rd or 4th when the Nats scored their 2nd and 3rd runs did anyone see the errors by Chase and Jimmy that the official scorers called hits? But the ball Wiggy hit to Zim was an error, wtf?
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    JK_Livin wrote:
    So in the 3rd or 4th when the Nats scored their 2nd and 3rd runs did anyone see the errors by Chase and Jimmy that the official scorers called hits? But the ball Wiggy hit to Zim was an error, wtf?

    Homefield advantage.

    And, by the way, people in this town really are idiots. Apparently they've never heard of a trade waiver before, let alone know how one works.
  • JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    JK_Livin wrote:
    So in the 3rd or 4th when the Nats scored their 2nd and 3rd runs did anyone see the errors by Chase and Jimmy that the official scorers called hits? But the ball Wiggy hit to Zim was an error, wtf?

    Homefield advantage.

    And, by the way, people in this town really are idiots. Apparently they've never heard of a trade waiver before, let alone know how one works.

    I know, it was funny following twitter when that happened. My wife freaked out. I said relax, your boyfriend isn't going anywhere. :lol:
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  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    what is it? and why did the phillies do it ?
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    what is it? and why did the phillies do it ?

    Because 100% of the teams in the league put about 90% of their MLB roster on trade waivers. If for no other reason but to keep those player available to see what kind of interest said players garner in a possible trade, even though the regular trade deadline has passed. You can bet that probably all 25 players for the Yanks were places on trade waivers too - the thing is, usually, that info doesn't get out.

    The way it works is you place a player - say Cliff Lee - on trade waivers.(Now forgive me, I might be slightly wrong on some of the details) Lee then becomes available on trade waivers, meaning anyone - starting with worst record in the NL and then in the AL - have a chance to claim Lee, therefore picking up his salary too. But, Philly can pull him off waivers at any point. If no one claims Lee, then the Phils can trade him to who ever. I'm probably slightly off on my explanation.
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    what is it? and why did the phillies do it ?

    Because 100% of the teams in the league put about 90% of their MLB roster on trade waivers. If for no other reason but to keep those player available to see what kind of interest said players garner in a possible trade, even though the regular trade deadline has passed. You can bet that probably all 25 players for the Yanks were places on trade waivers too - the thing is, usually, that info doesn't get out.

    The way it works is you place a player - say Cliff Lee - on trade waivers.(Now forgive me, I might be slightly wrong on some of the details) Lee then becomes available on trade waivers, meaning anyone - starting with worst record in the NL and then in the AL - have a chance to claim Lee, therefore picking up his salary too. But, Philly can pull him off waivers at any point. If no one claims Lee, then the Phils can trade him to who ever. I'm probably slightly off on my explanation.


    yea but then the phils took a chance at losing him if thats the case? i think
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    what is it? and why did the phillies do it ?

    Because 100% of the teams in the league put about 90% of their MLB roster on trade waivers. If for no other reason but to keep those player available to see what kind of interest said players garner in a possible trade, even though the regular trade deadline has passed. You can bet that probably all 25 players for the Yanks were places on trade waivers too - the thing is, usually, that info doesn't get out.

    The way it works is you place a player - say Cliff Lee - on trade waivers.(Now forgive me, I might be slightly wrong on some of the details) Lee then becomes available on trade waivers, meaning anyone - starting with worst record in the NL and then in the AL - have a chance to claim Lee, therefore picking up his salary too. But, Philly can pull him off waivers at any point. If no one claims Lee, then the Phils can trade him to who ever. I'm probably slightly off on my explanation.


    yea but then the phils took a chance at losing him if thats the case? i think

    Nah, if a team claims him, they(Phils) can always pull him back off waivers. Only way they let him go is if they want to just shed his salary by letting him go. But they won't do that. But then again, I don't doubt Amaro's lack of intellect.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,654
    The Fixer wrote:

    wait until pence misreads a routine fly ball in the playoffs.

    I'm afraid the only way he misreads a ball in the playoffs is from his couch. :x

    probably just another sabean deadline deal that doesn't work out and mortgages our future.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,971
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    what is it? and why did the phillies do it ?

    Because 100% of the teams in the league put about 90% of their MLB roster on trade waivers. If for no other reason but to keep those player available to see what kind of interest said players garner in a possible trade, even though the regular trade deadline has passed. You can bet that probably all 25 players for the Yanks were places on trade waivers too - the thing is, usually, that info doesn't get out.

    The way it works is you place a player - say Cliff Lee - on trade waivers.(Now forgive me, I might be slightly wrong on some of the details) Lee then becomes available on trade waivers, meaning anyone - starting with worst record in the NL and then in the AL - have a chance to claim Lee, therefore picking up his salary too. But, Philly can pull him off waivers at any point. If no one claims Lee, then the Phils can trade him to who ever. I'm probably slightly off on my explanation.

    That's pretty much my understanding.

    If a team claims him, the Phillies can 1- pull him back from waivers, 2- negotiate a trade with that team, or 3- let that team have him and his full salary. Sometimes teams claim players just to keep another team above them in the standings from getting the player. It's really just a technical thing that teams do. If they wanted to trade him they probably would've done so by July 31.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    Blanton clears waivers and is traded to the Dodgers. Actually think he'll be decent in that ballpark.
  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Blanton clears waivers and is traded to the Dodgers. Actually think he'll be decent in that ballpark.
    For a player to be named and cash. Were under the Luxury tax already, so i hope we get someone with upside.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Blanton clears waivers and is traded to the Dodgers. Actually think he'll be decent in that ballpark.
    For a player to be named and cash. Were under the Luxury tax already, so i hope we get someone with upside.

    Even if we get cash I'm alright with that. Roseberg is up; I'd rather see Cloyd pitch.

    MLBTR has Cliff Lee claimed on waivers. But it's missing two more words and an elipsis: "...no shit."
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    imalive wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    wait until pence misreads a routine fly ball in the playoffs.

    I'm afraid the only way he misreads a ball in the playoffs is from his couch. :x

    probably just another sabean deadline deal that doesn't work out and mortgages our future.

    thank you for wheeler :P
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    gotta love amaro holding out on moving blanton so he could get nothing in return.

    god I hate him
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Heard a radio ad for the Labor Day Festival this afternoon. Not one mention of Pearl Jam. Named a bunch of hip hop acts though.

    Looks like we should be prepared for a bunch of turds in saggy jean shorts and wifebeaters at this thing.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    The Fixer wrote:
    Heard a radio ad for the Labor Day Festival this afternoon. Not one mention of Pearl Jam. Named a bunch of hip hop acts though.

    Looks like we should be prepared for a bunch of turds in saggy jean shorts and wifebeaters at this thing.

    I'm thinkin' I should've went with the VIP tix....
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,954
    Fuck all the Made In America hate. Pearl Jam at what I would imagine is going to be a sweet outdoor venue in front of the Art Museum steps on Labor Day weekend in Philly, FUCK AND YES. Jay Z Saturday night, boom...Pearl Jam Sunday night, boom.....Bruce Monday night....Boom.

    Rooftop, festival, out and about in the city, rooftop, perhaps Bishops Collar or some other awesome bar in the city, festival, out and about in the city, tailgate all day, citizens bank park, sleep and recover all day Tuesday....Oh.Fuck.Yes!

    I could give two shits about what the crowd is like, I'm going to have a fucking great time. And either way, the crowd won't be that bad when the Rick Ross crew is the most hardcore hip hop act there.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Heard a radio ad for the Labor Day Festival this afternoon. Not one mention of Pearl Jam. Named a bunch of hip hop acts though.

    Looks like we should be prepared for a bunch of turds in saggy jean shorts and wifebeaters at this thing.

    I'm thinkin' I should've went with the VIP tix....

    I saw the prices. I can't see myself paying that much for an abbreviated PJ set. If they come down in price I will reconsider, but I am leaning towards GA. Then lots and lots of beers
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Fuck all the Made In America hate. Pearl Jam at what I would imagine is going to be a sweet outdoor venue in front of the Art Museum steps on Labor Day weekend in Philly, FUCK AND YES. Jay Z Saturday night, boom...Pearl Jam Sunday night, boom.....Bruce Monday night....Boom.

    Rooftop, festival, out and about in the city, rooftop, perhaps Bishops Collar or some other awesome bar in the city, festival, out and about in the city, tailgate all day, citizens bank park, sleep and recover all day Tuesday....Oh.Fuck.Yes!

    I could give two shits about what the crowd is like, I'm going to have a fucking great time. And either way, the crowd won't be that bad when the Rick Ross crew is the most hardcore hip hop act there.

    Yeah, I am definitely not as excited as you. I'm sure it will be cool, but my expectations for this thing are pretty low.

    Bishops Collar is awesome.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Fuck all the Made In America hate. Pearl Jam at what I would imagine is going to be a sweet outdoor venue in front of the Art Museum steps on Labor Day weekend in Philly, FUCK AND YES. Jay Z Saturday night, boom...Pearl Jam Sunday night, boom.....Bruce Monday night....Boom.

    Rooftop, festival, out and about in the city, rooftop, perhaps Bishops Collar or some other awesome bar in the city, festival, out and about in the city, tailgate all day, citizens bank park, sleep and recover all day Tuesday....Oh.Fuck.Yes!

    I could give two shits about what the crowd is like, I'm going to have a fucking great time. And either way, the crowd won't be that bad when the Rick Ross crew is the most hardcore hip hop act there.

    Well, hello. Aaaaand where have you been? Getting all engaged and what-have-you?
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