So glad I can come back to doing nothing and see the idiots are running the asylum...
don't worry you won't have to deal with it. everytime that other assclown gets his ass shown to him he disappears for a week or two. ask him if he has been around the flyers or big 5 thread's recently.
All I know is I'm not dealing with this nonsense so I probably won't even talk Phils.
Speaking of which - Iron Hill usually sucks, but they've got a beer right now that they partenered up with Brasserie DuPont to make a beer Speciale Belge for Beer Week. Fan-fucking-tastic. I think it stops being served at the end of the month.
ALSO, has anyone seriously considered the VIP tix for this PJ fest on Labor Day? I know it's usually crazy to pay that price, but somehow I think this one is worth the buy - don't have to deal with all the nuts and fighting to get to the front, is mostly my reason for buying them.
Good to see ur not long enough brake resulted in still being an ass.
Okay, Kettle.
It's 'break'.
Ill tell my spell check next time.
Idiot running the asylum? Talking to his spell check. Check.
Knowing who the ass is around here? Someone who tries to call someone an ass while circuitously doing far better at exceeding at attaining the title themself? Yep, check.
ALSO, has anyone seriously considered the VIP tix for this PJ fest on Labor Day? I know it's usually crazy to pay that price, but somehow I think this one is worth the buy - don't have to deal with all the nuts and fighting to get to the front, is mostly my reason for buying them.
I would but I think I have too big of a group. Think this is a concert where I don't think I am going to be terribly concerned with how close I am.
ALSO, has anyone seriously considered the VIP tix for this PJ fest on Labor Day? I know it's usually crazy to pay that price, but somehow I think this one is worth the buy - don't have to deal with all the nuts and fighting to get to the front, is mostly my reason for buying them.
I would but I think I have too big of a group. Think this is a concert where I don't think I am going to be terribly concerned with how close I am.
Word. Yeah, I think you're right, I'm probably going to do the same. We might actually end up in that same group.
Yeah, I might be possibly moving back into the city the same weekend. Should be all kinds of a shit show.
ALSO, has anyone seriously considered the VIP tix for this PJ fest on Labor Day? I know it's usually crazy to pay that price, but somehow I think this one is worth the buy - don't have to deal with all the nuts and fighting to get to the front, is mostly my reason for buying them.
I would but I think I have too big of a group. Think this is a concert where I don't think I am going to be terribly concerned with how close I am.
Word. Yeah, I think you're right, I'm probably going to do the same. We might actually end up in that same group.
Yeah, I might be possibly moving back into the city the same weekend. Should be all kinds of a shit show.
Ha, yeah, I'm sure. Everyone from Alpine Valley definitely has to grab at least a few beers. Plus many others, I'm sure. Now we just have to get the Canadians.
Yeah, man. That's sweet. That is going to be a rough weekend. Deck, festival, deck, festival, with probably a little Bishops Collar thrown in there.
I would but I think I have too big of a group. Think this is a concert where I don't think I am going to be terribly concerned with how close I am.
Word. Yeah, I think you're right, I'm probably going to do the same. We might actually end up in that same group.
Yeah, I might be possibly moving back into the city the same weekend. Should be all kinds of a shit show.
Ha, yeah, I'm sure. Everyone from Alpine Valley definitely has to grab at least a few beers. Plus many others, I'm sure. Now we just have to get the Canadians.
Yeah, man. That's sweet. That is going to be a rough weekend. Deck, festival, deck, festival, with probably a little Bishops Collar thrown in there.
I'm jealous of your deck. (insert someone's edit of 'deck' with an 'i' instead of an 'e')
So glad I can come back to doing nothing and see the idiots are running the asylum...
Good to see ur not long enough brake resulted in still being an ass.
Okay, Kettle.
It's 'break'.
I really had absolutely no idea what he was talking about. With the mixed up homonym and all.
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Now it's Carlos Ruiz who is hurt for the Phillies, joining Roy Halladay and Chase Utley and Ryan Howard and seemingly the rest of the ballplayers in the eastern half of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
After their loss Friday, the Phillies are now nine games out of first place in the National League East, and after losing just 60 games in the 2011 season, they have 35 losses already, and 31 victories. The Phillies had the easiest schedule in April, and now they are facing a brutal slate of games in July and August, including a West Coast trip right after the All-Star break and a bunch of games against the best teams in the NL Central.
Some rival executives have come to believe that unless the Phillies run off a string of victories over the next 46 days, they will seriously consider offers for left-hander Cole Hamels. Philadelphia has not made any progress in its contract talks for Hamels, who is now about 20 starts from free agency.
But as the Phillies approach those crossroads and seriously weigh the question of whether to keep the left-hander, the decision will be extremely difficult. One can imagine general manager Ruben Amaro sitting down in his office with a yellow legal pad, drawing a line down the middle and filling out two columns -- the pros, and cons.
Why the Phillies should keep Hamels: There are Phillies who can testify first-hand, from their experience of running down the Mets in 2007, that overcoming a huge deficit in a short period of time is possible. Utley will be back soon, in all likelihood, and Howard could follow shortly thereafter, and as the Nationals prepare to shut down Stephen Strasburg later in the summer, a two-week burst of success could draw the Phillies right back into the wild-card race, at the very least.
That cannot happen, though, unless the Phillies keep Hamels; if he and Cliff Lee and Vance Worley spearhead a comeback, and Halladay makes it back, Philadelphia could be dangerous again. A trade of Hamels would effectively end the competitive part of their season.
Keep in mind that the Phillies' fan base is now accustomed to winning, after year after year of division titles. They support the team well, fill the ballpark -- from the cheapest seats to the most expensive -- and some won't take kindly to a white flag being waved by the front office with a third of the season to happen.
Hamels would undoubtedly be the best pitcher available on the market if the Phillies dangled him, with more consistency than Matt Garza (who is being talked about a lot more in recent days, executives say) and better pure stuff than Ryan Dempster and less risk than Wandy Rodriguez. But it's possible that the Phillies won't get a game-changing prospect for Hamels, as the Mets did last summer, when they swapped Carlos Beltran for Zack Wheeler, who has been described by one evaluator as a "right-handed Matt Moore."
Remember, this is the first year in which a team that acquires a prospective free agent during the season won't be eligible for draft-pick compensation; according to an AL executive, a player would have had to have been traded by Opening Day for that to happen. In the past, a team could have traded for a free agent-to-be knowing that they probably wouldn't sign him, while feeling comfortable that at the end of the year, they would be in line for draft-pick compensation. That's what the Brewers did when they swapped for CC Sabathia.
So there is no value recoup on Hamels for a team that trades for him, and that figures to have an impact on what some teams will offer the Phillies.
Lastly: while there is reason for the Phillies to believe that Hamels is going to leave in the fall as a free agent, for a whopper contract -- their best chance to sign him was probably last fall, and that window of opportunity was missed -- trading him may effectively slam the door on his return to the Phillies.
Why the Phillies should trade Hamels: Amaro and the Philadelphia front office will take an honest assessment of the team, and right now, they don't look close to being a team that can win a division, let alone make a dent in October. Their staff ERA is 3.94, which ranks 14th in the majors, and Manuel has spoken about how the team just doesn't play with the same level of confidence; they are the hunted these days, rather than the hunters. The Phillies really have no idea what they'll get out of Utley or Howard, or Halladay; they cannot speak with confidence that any of those players can get back to being difference-makers this summer. An honest appraisal is that the outlook for the rest of this season is bleak.
The Phillies have traded for high-end talent in recent years in an effort to augment the team's chances to win in October, making deals for Lee and Halladay and Hunter Pence and others, and now the credit card bill has come due. Rival executives say that the Phillies' farm system is very thin, and while Amaro may not get an A-plus prospect for Hamels -- someone like a Dylan Bundy of the Orioles -- he would get badly needed young talent in return for Hamels.
And if the Phillies were going to sign Hamels, they would have done it by now, because they are fully aware that the price on him is only increasing. An $80 million offer last fall probably wasn't good enough, and Hamels' market price shot up to at least $112.5 million after Matt Cain signed, and when multiple teams are bidding on him in the fall, he'll be in position to get a Johan Santana or Lee type of deal.
The Phillies, already pushed against the luxury tax ceiling by other contracts, are boxed in. If they know internally they aren't going to sign Hamels, it frees them up to decide to take draft-pick compensation for him in the fall -- or for players closer to the big leagues, in a deal this summer.
Philadelphia fans will continue to support the Phillies so long as they win, and trading Hamels for prospects will arguably put them closer to winning in 2013.
rookie of the year, mvp, NLCS MVP, fastest ever to 200 career home runs...other than Schmidt no one else comes close to having that type of collection. or at least no one else in about 70 years.
ROY...
This is almost as great as the time you used fast pitch softball and street hockey to justify how great of an athlete you are.
hilarious. thanks for the laugh. it's been too long (like a week) since you said something stupid enough for me to laugh at.
read above ahole, i guess you missed the part where we were talking about the 2nd most decorated HITTER in franchise history. :roll: :roll: :roll: now go disappear and say nothing for a week or so like you always do when you are wrong.
So glad I can come back to doing nothing and see the idiots are running the asylum...
don't worry you won't have to deal with it. everytime that other assclown gets his ass shown to him he disappears for a week or two. ask him if he has been around the flyers or big 5 thread's recently.
flyers? what are you talking about
remember when you said the flyers wouldn't be able to score any goals this year? how'd that work out? I think they were third in NHL in goals
we know you don't have spell check. it's blantantly obvious since you consistently fail to master 2nd grade grammar
I would pay money to watch you read USA Today out loud in person
I think we should grab a beer at the philly show.
highly doubtful
to answer JP's question, I would definitely consider VIP tix. I think it would be cool to be close to the stage at an event like this. Especially not having any concept of how bad the 'bad' areas to stand will be
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don't worry you won't have to deal with it. everytime that other assclown gets his ass shown to him he disappears for a week or two. ask him if he has been around the flyers or big 5 thread's recently.
Speaking of which - Iron Hill usually sucks, but they've got a beer right now that they partenered up with Brasserie DuPont to make a beer Speciale Belge for Beer Week. Fan-fucking-tastic. I think it stops being served at the end of the month.
Okay, Kettle.
It's 'break'.
Idiot running the asylum? Talking to his spell check. Check.
Knowing who the ass is around here? Someone who tries to call someone an ass while circuitously doing far better at exceeding at attaining the title themself? Yep, check.
I would but I think I have too big of a group. Think this is a concert where I don't think I am going to be terribly concerned with how close I am.
Agreed.
Find this Speciale Belge beer near you.
Word. Yeah, I think you're right, I'm probably going to do the same. We might actually end up in that same group.
Yeah, I might be possibly moving back into the city the same weekend. Should be all kinds of a shit show.
Bunch of good spots have it.
http://phillytapfinder.com/#beer-dupont-speciale-belge
Will have to get to Devils Den early next week. Hopefully they'll still have it. Some of these places should still have it.
Dude, you have been this entire time. It's just too much fun in a weird way - like watching a car crash.
Okay, Kettle.
It's 'break'.[/quote]
Will u block me already PLEASE[/quote]
Dude, you have been this entire time. It's just too much fun in a weird way - like watching a car crash.[/quote]
guess u got permission to use the computer again. Good to see the fixers got his girl friend Pam back.
Ha, yeah, I'm sure. Everyone from Alpine Valley definitely has to grab at least a few beers. Plus many others, I'm sure. Now we just have to get the Canadians.
Yeah, man. That's sweet. That is going to be a rough weekend. Deck, festival, deck, festival, with probably a little Bishops Collar thrown in there.
I'm jealous of your deck. (insert someone's edit of 'deck' with an 'i' instead of an 'e')
Yeah, I literally just laughed out loud.
We definitely plan to have a little something up there soon. I'll let you know.
I really had absolutely no idea what he was talking about. With the mixed up homonym and all.
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Me fail English? That be unpossible.
Fale.
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Nice.
Okay, Kettle.
It's 'break.[/quote]
I really had absolutely no idea what he was talking about. With the mixed up homonym and all.[/quote]
I type properly inproper.
Now it's Carlos Ruiz who is hurt for the Phillies, joining Roy Halladay and Chase Utley and Ryan Howard and seemingly the rest of the ballplayers in the eastern half of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
After their loss Friday, the Phillies are now nine games out of first place in the National League East, and after losing just 60 games in the 2011 season, they have 35 losses already, and 31 victories. The Phillies had the easiest schedule in April, and now they are facing a brutal slate of games in July and August, including a West Coast trip right after the All-Star break and a bunch of games against the best teams in the NL Central.
Some rival executives have come to believe that unless the Phillies run off a string of victories over the next 46 days, they will seriously consider offers for left-hander Cole Hamels. Philadelphia has not made any progress in its contract talks for Hamels, who is now about 20 starts from free agency.
But as the Phillies approach those crossroads and seriously weigh the question of whether to keep the left-hander, the decision will be extremely difficult. One can imagine general manager Ruben Amaro sitting down in his office with a yellow legal pad, drawing a line down the middle and filling out two columns -- the pros, and cons.
Why the Phillies should keep Hamels: There are Phillies who can testify first-hand, from their experience of running down the Mets in 2007, that overcoming a huge deficit in a short period of time is possible. Utley will be back soon, in all likelihood, and Howard could follow shortly thereafter, and as the Nationals prepare to shut down Stephen Strasburg later in the summer, a two-week burst of success could draw the Phillies right back into the wild-card race, at the very least.
That cannot happen, though, unless the Phillies keep Hamels; if he and Cliff Lee and Vance Worley spearhead a comeback, and Halladay makes it back, Philadelphia could be dangerous again. A trade of Hamels would effectively end the competitive part of their season.
Keep in mind that the Phillies' fan base is now accustomed to winning, after year after year of division titles. They support the team well, fill the ballpark -- from the cheapest seats to the most expensive -- and some won't take kindly to a white flag being waved by the front office with a third of the season to happen.
Hamels would undoubtedly be the best pitcher available on the market if the Phillies dangled him, with more consistency than Matt Garza (who is being talked about a lot more in recent days, executives say) and better pure stuff than Ryan Dempster and less risk than Wandy Rodriguez. But it's possible that the Phillies won't get a game-changing prospect for Hamels, as the Mets did last summer, when they swapped Carlos Beltran for Zack Wheeler, who has been described by one evaluator as a "right-handed Matt Moore."
Remember, this is the first year in which a team that acquires a prospective free agent during the season won't be eligible for draft-pick compensation; according to an AL executive, a player would have had to have been traded by Opening Day for that to happen. In the past, a team could have traded for a free agent-to-be knowing that they probably wouldn't sign him, while feeling comfortable that at the end of the year, they would be in line for draft-pick compensation. That's what the Brewers did when they swapped for CC Sabathia.
So there is no value recoup on Hamels for a team that trades for him, and that figures to have an impact on what some teams will offer the Phillies.
Lastly: while there is reason for the Phillies to believe that Hamels is going to leave in the fall as a free agent, for a whopper contract -- their best chance to sign him was probably last fall, and that window of opportunity was missed -- trading him may effectively slam the door on his return to the Phillies.
Why the Phillies should trade Hamels: Amaro and the Philadelphia front office will take an honest assessment of the team, and right now, they don't look close to being a team that can win a division, let alone make a dent in October. Their staff ERA is 3.94, which ranks 14th in the majors, and Manuel has spoken about how the team just doesn't play with the same level of confidence; they are the hunted these days, rather than the hunters. The Phillies really have no idea what they'll get out of Utley or Howard, or Halladay; they cannot speak with confidence that any of those players can get back to being difference-makers this summer. An honest appraisal is that the outlook for the rest of this season is bleak.
The Phillies have traded for high-end talent in recent years in an effort to augment the team's chances to win in October, making deals for Lee and Halladay and Hunter Pence and others, and now the credit card bill has come due. Rival executives say that the Phillies' farm system is very thin, and while Amaro may not get an A-plus prospect for Hamels -- someone like a Dylan Bundy of the Orioles -- he would get badly needed young talent in return for Hamels.
And if the Phillies were going to sign Hamels, they would have done it by now, because they are fully aware that the price on him is only increasing. An $80 million offer last fall probably wasn't good enough, and Hamels' market price shot up to at least $112.5 million after Matt Cain signed, and when multiple teams are bidding on him in the fall, he'll be in position to get a Johan Santana or Lee type of deal.
The Phillies, already pushed against the luxury tax ceiling by other contracts, are boxed in. If they know internally they aren't going to sign Hamels, it frees them up to decide to take draft-pick compensation for him in the fall -- or for players closer to the big leagues, in a deal this summer.
Philadelphia fans will continue to support the Phillies so long as they win, and trading Hamels for prospects will arguably put them closer to winning in 2013.
It won't be an easy decision for Amaro.
when I'm debating with you I am never wrong
you used ROY to defend your stance. good job
flyers? what are you talking about
remember when you said the flyers wouldn't be able to score any goals this year? how'd that work out? I think they were third in NHL in goals
you are clueless man. CLUE-LESS
we know you don't have spell check. it's blantantly obvious since you consistently fail to master 2nd grade grammar
I would pay money to watch you read USA Today out loud in person
highly doubtful
to answer JP's question, I would definitely consider VIP tix. I think it would be cool to be close to the stage at an event like this. Especially not having any concept of how bad the 'bad' areas to stand will be