***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,527
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    Don't be surprised if Vladimir Guerrero, Magglio Ordonez, Xavier Nady, or Manny Ramirez wind up with the Phillies. The Phillies really want to add a righthanded hitter who can pinch hit and occasionally play the outfield. However, they’re extremely close to luxury tax territory.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,967
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    Don't be surprised if Vladimir Guerrero, Magglio Ordonez, Xavier Nady, or Manny Ramirez wind up with the Phillies. The Phillies really want to add a righthanded hitter who can pinch hit and occasionally play the outfield. However, they’re extremely close to luxury tax territory.

    I wouldn't mind any of these moves because of the fact that with Spring Training around the corner, and these guys without jobs, they'll end up being a decent bargain.

    I think they'll be able to make room.

    Also, with the Montgomery comments, I think the Phils are looking to do what the Red Sox did with A-Gon in regards of an extension for Hamels.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,723
    The only one in that group that isn't completely worthless is vlad. I'm hoping for Damon. Vlad is begging for the yanks it sounds but they want a lefty to platoon with jones.

    Minor league contracts are zero risk but none of those other three will give any team anything.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,723
    You fuckers hear blue horizon may be reopening?
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,967
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    You fuckers hear blue horizon may be reopening?

    Eh, I don't mind Ordonez against lefties. But just thinking about it, I don't see where they would fit any of them.

    And, yeah, I heard something about the Blue Horizon opening back up but that it'll still be a hotel with a boxing venue. I just don't know if they're keeping the original venue. Which would suck.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,723
    I don't think ordonez is anywhere close to being ready to play. I could be wrong but I thought he was looking at midseason. I could see a minor league deal with an invite but I don't think they need it.

    Yeah, that's what I read, I would hope they would leave the venue alone.
  • Needless to say I want no part of Manny PED.

    Interesting look at what the Phils might be getting for their next TV contract - it's going to be a fucking bonanza...

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20120214_Inside_the_Phillies__TV_rights_windfall_looms_in_Phillies_future.html
    Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; WF Center 10/21/13; WF Center 10/22/13; Baltimore 10/27/13;
    WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
    Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,527
    Needless to say I want no part of Manny PED.

    Interesting look at what the Phils might be getting for their next TV contract - it's going to be a fucking bonanza...

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20120214_Inside_the_Phillies__TV_rights_windfall_looms_in_Phillies_future.html

    love it. it's amazing how far this franchise has come in just a few years. kids these days are so spoiled:


    The Phillies may not have to wait until 2016 to cash in. Comcast, in a show of good faith, could rip up the final few seasons of the existing 15-year contract. That would deter any other possible bidders and eliminate the outside chance of the Phillies creating their own network.

    Or the Phillies could simply decide it's worth waiting and budget with the knowledge the money will eventually come. Let the Dodgers negotiate a new market-setting deal that the Phillies can surpass in 2016.

    Regardless, despite a possible deal being four years away, that sort of money can drive decision-making now. And while it's nearly impossible for Phillies fans to criticize the once-frugal team's meteoric rise in payroll spending, the overwhelming public sentiment will side with Cole Hamels in upcoming contract negotiations.
    :mrgreen:
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,428
    Needless to say I want no part of Manny PED.

    Interesting look at what the Phils might be getting for their next TV contract - it's going to be a fucking bonanza...

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20120214_Inside_the_Phillies__TV_rights_windfall_looms_in_Phillies_future.html

    love it. it's amazing how far this franchise has come in just a few years. kids these days are so spoiled:


    The Phillies may not have to wait until 2016 to cash in. Comcast, in a show of good faith, could rip up the final few seasons of the existing 15-year contract. That would deter any other possible bidders and eliminate the outside chance of the Phillies creating their own network.

    Or the Phillies could simply decide it's worth waiting and budget with the knowledge the money will eventually come. Let the Dodgers negotiate a new market-setting deal that the Phillies can surpass in 2016.

    Regardless, despite a possible deal being four years away, that sort of money can drive decision-making now. And while it's nearly impossible for Phillies fans to criticize the once-frugal team's meteoric rise in payroll spending, the overwhelming public sentiment will side with Cole Hamels in upcoming contract negotiations.
    :mrgreen:


    read that this morning. if those teams with shitty ratings are getting those astronomical dollars for tv rights how much can the phils command? Some of those numbers are mind boggling especially for teams like the Astros. crazy where this franchise has been taken since the new stadium.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,723
    pjhawks wrote:
    Needless to say I want no part of Manny PED.

    Interesting look at what the Phils might be getting for their next TV contract - it's going to be a fucking bonanza...

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20120214_Inside_the_Phillies__TV_rights_windfall_looms_in_Phillies_future.html

    love it. it's amazing how far this franchise has come in just a few years. kids these days are so spoiled:


    The Phillies may not have to wait until 2016 to cash in. Comcast, in a show of good faith, could rip up the final few seasons of the existing 15-year contract. That would deter any other possible bidders and eliminate the outside chance of the Phillies creating their own network.

    Or the Phillies could simply decide it's worth waiting and budget with the knowledge the money will eventually come. Let the Dodgers negotiate a new market-setting deal that the Phillies can surpass in 2016.

    Regardless, despite a possible deal being four years away, that sort of money can drive decision-making now. And while it's nearly impossible for Phillies fans to criticize the once-frugal team's meteoric rise in payroll spending, the overwhelming public sentiment will side with Cole Hamels in upcoming contract negotiations.
    :mrgreen:


    read that this morning. if those teams with shitty ratings are getting those astronomical dollars for tv rights how much can the phils command? Some of those numbers are mind boggling especially for teams like the Astros. crazy where this franchise has been taken since the new stadium.

    Am sure it has to do with the raw size of the market for Houston and some of the others. The Dodgers obviously makes sense. Historic franchise in the second biggest market with fans all over the country (fading a bit now, I'm sure, but still). Phillies will get paid. I wouldn't have guessed it wouldn't rival the Dodgers contract, but if Boras says it, I'll believe it.

    Will be really interesting to see what happens over the next few years with all these teams getting these TV contracts. I would have to imagine the Rangers are sitting on a fucking goldmine and are going to blow up. 2 world series appearances in a row, a brand new TV contract and a payroll of right around $100 mil.
  • I believe Phila is still 4th biggest metro area. The area of the cities of Houston & LA is several times that of Phila, thus making the population figures distorted. Phila's area has been fixed for over 100 years.

    I am sure they are currently raking it in with the ad revenue; the new TV contract would have to surpass that unknown (to us) amount.

    I think the DVR argument is funny - I DVR sports all the time. :lol:
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    WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
    Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,527
    I believe Phila is still 4th biggest metro area. The area of the cities of Houston & LA is several times that of Phila, thus making the population figures distorted. Phila's area has been fixed for over 100 years.

    I am sure they are currently raking it in with the ad revenue; the new TV contract would have to surpass that unknown (to us) amount.

    I think the DVR argument is funny - I DVR sports all the time. :lol:

    i can't dvr sports. never works with people texting and updates on phones etc....sometimes i'll dvr a sixers game and i'll just watch the 4th quarter or something.


    btw--i think phoenix passed philly a while back. i think we're the 5th largest market now.

    i'm so ready for baseball to start...
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  • JK_LivinJK_Livin Posts: 7,365
    Thread title must be updated.
    Alright, alright, alright!
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  • btw--i think phoenix passed philly a while back. i think we're the 5th largest market now.

    Don't think it happened. They were supposed to pass us in city population, and that didn't happen either. We'd have dropped to 6th in that category, but we stayed 5th.
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    WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
    Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • JK_Livin wrote:
    Thread title must be updated.

    Here we go again...
    Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; WF Center 10/21/13; WF Center 10/22/13; Baltimore 10/27/13;
    WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
    Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,723
    btw--i think phoenix passed philly a while back. i think we're the 5th largest market now.

    Don't think it happened. They were supposed to pass us in city population, and that didn't happen either. We'd have dropped to 6th in that category, but we stayed 5th.

    5th in population, 4th in DMA TV housholds according to Neilsen.
  • JK_LivinJK_Livin Posts: 7,365
    JK_Livin wrote:
    Thread title must be updated.

    Here we go again...

    What?
    Alright, alright, alright!
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    "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
    -The Writer
  • JK_Livin wrote:
    JK_Livin wrote:
    Thread title must be updated.

    Here we go again...

    What?

    Somebody has to track down petrocs to change the thread title. This issue went on for about a month last year. :lol:
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    WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
    Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • JK_LivinJK_Livin Posts: 7,365
    Gotcha. New year, new thread?
    Alright, alright, alright!
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  • JK_Livin wrote:
    Gotcha. New year, new thread?

    Uh oh. Wait 'til Jeags replies.
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    WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
    Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,723
    JK_Livin wrote:
    Gotcha. New year, new thread?

    Uh oh. Wait 'til Jeags replies.

    JP will have no parts of that, none.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,967
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    BLASPHEMY. I WILL HAVE NONE OF IT.
  • cowboypjfancowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    So, I'm going to be in Clearwater and have a free day March 11th. Why the hell do the Phils play 2 different games? Which one would you recommend seeing? Tigers or Yanks?
  • petrocspetrocs Posts: 4,342
    UPDATED.....We taking this bitch this year!
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,967
    petrocs wrote:
    UPDATED.....We taking this bitch this year!

    Attaway, guy.
    :thumbup: :thumbup:
  • crazypjfan wrote:
    So, I'm going to be in Clearwater and have a free day March 11th. Why the hell do the Phils play 2 different games? Which one would you recommend seeing? Tigers or Yanks?

    Prince & the Tiggers.
    Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; WF Center 10/21/13; WF Center 10/22/13; Baltimore 10/27/13;
    WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
    Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • petrocs wrote:
    UPDATED.....We taking this bitch this year!

    Attaway, guy.
    :thumbup: :thumbup:

    Now we're ready for the season! :lol:
    Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; WF Center 10/21/13; WF Center 10/22/13; Baltimore 10/27/13;
    WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
    Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,967
    petrocs wrote:
    UPDATED.....We taking this bitch this year!

    Attaway, guy.
    :thumbup: :thumbup:

    Now we're ready for the season! :lol:

    You better believe it.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,928
    I was watching "House Crashers" yesterday.....I've never seen any kind of drama or harsh words on this show.....until yesterday when they went to PHILLY and had to deal with a couple of carpenters wearing flat brim phillies caps :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • imalive wrote:
    I was watching "House Crashers" yesterday.....I've never seen any kind of drama or harsh words on this show.....until yesterday when they went to PHILLY and had to deal with a couple of carpenters wearing flat brim phillies caps :lol:

    All the winners wear flat-brim caps. :roll:
    Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; WF Center 10/21/13; WF Center 10/22/13; Baltimore 10/27/13;
    WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
    Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24

    Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
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