This is a fun article. These teams didn't fare all that well - 2 won World Series in 7 dramatic games, 1 got swept in World Series, and 1 lost in NCLS.
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howard great once again vs the giants. he's already in playoff form. 1-12, 8 K's
RBI!!!
umm...he's a career .278 hitter with a .382 obp in the playoffs... :?
and lead the team in said categories against the giants last year. spot on fixer. spot on! :thumbup:
what's your point? the majority of that article centers around RBI numbers. The fact that someone can try to drive home a point with such ridiculous info is hysterical.
Then again, you are the one that liked polacno in the 5 hole
what's your point? the majority of that article centers around RBI numbers. The fact that someone can try to drive home a point with such ridiculous info is hysterical.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
So, anyway. After next Monday this team has 2 more off days the rest of the season. Is there any good reason they shouldn't go to a 6-man rotation? At least in September after callups.
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So, anyway. After next Monday this team has 2 more off days the rest of the season. Is there any good reason they shouldn't go to a 6-man rotation? At least in September after callups.
Nope. I don't see it happening though.
They should sign arthur rhodes tomorrow. He'd be perfect for this bullpen. They need a lefty specialist
Lige was brutal last night. Would be nice if he could give them another pen option in the playoffs. Unfortunately, it looks like I will be strapping on a diaper every time he comes in
So, anyway. After next Monday this team has 2 more off days the rest of the season. Is there any good reason they shouldn't go to a 6-man rotation? At least in September after callups.
Nope. I don't see it happening though.
They should sign arthur rhodes tomorrow. He'd be perfect for this bullpen. They need a lefty specialist
Lige was brutal last night. Would be nice if he could give them another pen option in the playoffs. Unfortunately, it looks like I will be strapping on a diaper every time he comes in
And it looks like you've been right about Stutes - he's getting tired.
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Ryan Garvey (steve's son) scheduled to be in philly for a workout this weekend. Signing deadline is the 15th. Would be huge for their draft class if they can get him on board (he wasn't picked until 15th round due to strong committment to USC).
So, anyway. After next Monday this team has 2 more off days the rest of the season. Is there any good reason they shouldn't go to a 6-man rotation? At least in September after callups.
Nope. I don't see it happening though.
They should sign arthur rhodes tomorrow. He'd be perfect for this bullpen. They need a lefty specialist
Lige was brutal last night. Would be nice if he could give them another pen option in the playoffs. Unfortunately, it looks like I will be strapping on a diaper every time he comes in
And it looks like you've been right about Stutes - he's getting tired.
That's what happens when you use him in the 9th inning of 9-2 games. Ridiculous
I think they are going to bring up schwimmer, defratus, and aumont on 9/1. Cant wait to see all 3 of them
•The Phillies have signed seventh-round pick Kenny Giles to a contract with a $250K bonus, reports Baseball America's Jim Callis (Twitter link). Giles, a high-schooler who had committed to the University of Arizona, "has touched 99 mph with his fastball."
•The Phillies have signed seventh-round pick Kenny Giles to a contract with a $250K bonus, reports Baseball America's Jim Callis (Twitter link). Giles, a high-schooler who had committed to the University of Arizona, "has touched 99 mph with his fastball."
Damn. In high school.
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umm...he's a career .278 hitter with a .382 obp in the playoffs... :?
and lead the team in said categories against the giants last year. spot on fixer. spot on! :thumbup:
what's your point? the majority of that article centers around RBI numbers. The fact that someone can try to drive home a point with such ridiculous info is hysterical.
Then again, you are the one that liked polacno in the 5 hole
you know the point, you just choose to ignore it. you said 1-12 with 8k's is an idicator that's not a clutch performer in the post season (at least that's what i inferred by you saying he's in "post season form"). as the numbers show below, he's actually been our most consistent playoff performer of the 4 core guys who've been here since 07:
one thing I have never ripped howard for is being 'unclutch' (not sure if that's a word, but whatever you want to call it)
howard's playoff stats are symmetrical with his regular season production...decreasing. he's struck out something like 30 of his last 60 playoff ABs (too lazy to add it up right now). so I guess you're right in a sense that he is indeed consistent...it's just not in a good way.
the guy is far from the player he was back in 06-08
one thing I have never ripped howard for is being 'unclutch' (not sure if that's a word, but whatever you want to call it.
howard's playoff stats are symmetrical with his regular season production...decreasing. he's struck out something like 30 of his last 60 playoff ABs (too lazy to add it up right now). so I guess, you're right in a sense that he is indeed consistent...it's just not in a good way.
the guy is far from the player he was back in 06-08
i don't what else to tell you but to just put the numbers down. howards post season numbers since 07:
one thing I have never ripped howard for is being 'unclutch' (not sure if that's a word, but whatever you want to call it.
howard's playoff stats are symmetrical with his regular season production...decreasing. he's struck out something like 30 of his last 60 playoff ABs (too lazy to add it up right now). so I guess, you're right in a sense that he is indeed consistent...it's just not in a good way.
the guy is far from the player he was back in 06-08
i don't what else to tell you but to just put the numbers down. howards post season numbers since 07:
higher average, higher obp, lower slugging, higher ops = not decreasing at all.
not to compare the two, but here's utley's numbers:
07 .182 .308 .182 .490
08 .220 .391 .460 .851
09 .296 .424 .648 1.072
10 .212 .325 .333 .658
all i ask is that people be rational when discussing this stuff.
so you think he was good in 09 and last year?
He KILLED the phils in the last two series that they have lost. As for utley. he wasnt' good vs sf either, but he can help the team in more ways than one...which howard cannot
one thing I have never ripped howard for is being 'unclutch' (not sure if that's a word, but whatever you want to call it.
howard's playoff stats are symmetrical with his regular season production...decreasing. he's struck out something like 30 of his last 60 playoff ABs (too lazy to add it up right now). so I guess, you're right in a sense that he is indeed consistent...it's just not in a good way.
the guy is far from the player he was back in 06-08
i don't what else to tell you but to just put the numbers down. howards post season numbers since 07:
higher average, higher obp, lower slugging, higher ops = not decreasing at all.
not to compare the two, but here's utley's numbers:
07 .182 .308 .182 .490
08 .220 .391 .460 .851
09 .296 .424 .648 1.072
10 .212 .325 .333 .658
all i ask is that people be rational when discussing this stuff.
so you think he was good in 09 and last year?
He KILLED the phils in the last two series that they have lost
he was the nlcs mvp in 2009. awful in the ws. incidentally, utley didnt do much at all in the nlcs that year but carried them in the ws.
r6 was literally the only phillie to get on base consistently against the giants. came up woefully small in the last at bat, obviously. but here are then numbers in that series again:
Shane Victorino: .208/.296/.250
Placido Polanco: .250/.360/.350
Chase Utley: .182/.333/.227
Ryan Howard: .318/.400/.500
Jayson Werth: .222/.375/.611
Jimmy Rollins: .261/.320/.304
Raul Ibanez: .211/.250/.263
Carlos Ruiz: .167/.318.333
so your notion that he was in mid season form this past weekend is just completely false. that's all i am trying to convey to you.
higher average, higher obp, lower slugging, higher ops = not decreasing at all.
not to compare the two, but here's utley's numbers:
07 .182 .308 .182 .490
08 .220 .391 .460 .851
09 .296 .424 .648 1.072
10 .212 .325 .333 .658
all i ask is that people be rational when discussing this stuff.
so you think he was good in 09 and last year?
He KILLED the phils in the last two series that they have lost
he was the nlcs mvp in 2009. awful in the ws. incidentally, utley didnt do much at all in the nlcs that year but carried them in the ws.
r6 was literally the only phillie to get on base consistently against the giants. came up woefully small in the last at bat, obviously. but here are then numbers in that series again:
Shane Victorino: .208/.296/.250
Placido Polanco: .250/.360/.350
Chase Utley: .182/.333/.227
Ryan Howard: .318/.400/.500
Jayson Werth: .222/.375/.611
Jimmy Rollins: .261/.320/.304
Raul Ibanez: .211/.250/.263
Carlos Ruiz: .167/.318.333
so your notion that he was in mid season form this past weekend is just completely false. that's all i am trying to convey to you.
utley can help a team in every facet of the game. howard is one dimensional (hits for power)...unless you want to count striking out as a part of the game.
I said he was 1-12 with 8 K's in the SF series. In the last three playoff series the phisl have played (I will even give him the benefit of the doubt an include cincy, he is 14-56 with 30 k's (including a k in all 15 games). so when he struck out 75% of the time vs Sf, yes he is in playoff form.
he's struck out 54% of the time in last 3 playoff series. His BABIP must be ridiculous.
Anyway, hopefully he and the rest of the lineup get their shit together this time around in the playoffs. Howard certainly wasnt the only reason they lost to SF. I do believe that if he gave them ANYTHING vs the yanks that the phils would have won that series though (games 2 and 3, both losses, he went 0-8 with 7 K's. Ouch)
He KILLED the phils in the last two series that they have lost
he was the nlcs mvp in 2009. awful in the ws. incidentally, utley didnt do much at all in the nlcs that year but carried them in the ws.
r6 was literally the only phillie to get on base consistently against the giants. came up woefully small in the last at bat, obviously. but here are then numbers in that series again:
Shane Victorino: .208/.296/.250
Placido Polanco: .250/.360/.350
Chase Utley: .182/.333/.227
Ryan Howard: .318/.400/.500
Jayson Werth: .222/.375/.611
Jimmy Rollins: .261/.320/.304
Raul Ibanez: .211/.250/.263
Carlos Ruiz: .167/.318.333
so your notion that he was in mid season form this past weekend is just completely false. that's all i am trying to convey to you.
utley can help a team in every facet of the game. howard is one dimensional (hits for power)...unless you want to count striking out as a part of the game.
I said he was 1-12 with 8 K's in the SF series. In the last three playoff series the phisl have played (I will even give him the benefit of the doubt an include cincy, he is 14-56 with 30 k's (including a k in all 15 games). so when he struck out 75% of the time vs Sf, yes he is in playoff form.
as the numbers i have posted have shown howard has done a lot more than hit for power in the post season. we all know he strikes out too much. but if the point of the game, according to you, is to get on base, he's been doing that consistently better than anyone on the team during these last few post seasons. if anything last night's performance (extremely small sample size :thumbup: ) was more indicative of his post season play.
he's struck out 54% of the time in last 3 playoff series. His BABIP must be ridiculous.
Anyway, hopefully he and the rest of the lineup get their shit together this time around in the playoffs. Howard certainly wasnt the only reason they lost to SF. I do believe that if he gave them ANYTHING vs the yanks that the phils would have won that series though (games 2 and 3, both losses, he went 0-8 with 7 K's. Ouch)
no he's really not even close to the main reason they lost to sf last year.
this is the reason they lost to sf:
Shane Victorino: .208/.296/.250
Placido Polanco: .250/.360/.350
Chase Utley: .182/.333/.227 :x
Ryan Howard: .318/.400/.500
Jayson Werth: .222/.375/.611
Jimmy Rollins: .261/.320/.304 :x
Raul Ibanez: .211/.250/.263 :x
Carlos Ruiz: .167/.318.333 :x
hopefully a different ending is in store for this team though, agreed.
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what's your point? the majority of that article centers around RBI numbers. The fact that someone can try to drive home a point with such ridiculous info is hysterical.
Then again, you are the one that liked polacno in the 5 hole
So, anyway. After next Monday this team has 2 more off days the rest of the season. Is there any good reason they shouldn't go to a 6-man rotation? At least in September after callups.
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Nope. I don't see it happening though.
They should sign arthur rhodes tomorrow. He'd be perfect for this bullpen. They need a lefty specialist
Lige was brutal last night. Would be nice if he could give them another pen option in the playoffs. Unfortunately, it looks like I will be strapping on a diaper every time he comes in
And it looks like you've been right about Stutes - he's getting tired.
WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
That's what happens when you use him in the 9th inning of 9-2 games. Ridiculous
I think they are going to bring up schwimmer, defratus, and aumont on 9/1. Cant wait to see all 3 of them
•The Phillies have signed seventh-round pick Kenny Giles to a contract with a $250K bonus, reports Baseball America's Jim Callis (Twitter link). Giles, a high-schooler who had committed to the University of Arizona, "has touched 99 mph with his fastball."
Damn. In high school.
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
you know the point, you just choose to ignore it. you said 1-12 with 8k's is an idicator that's not a clutch performer in the post season (at least that's what i inferred by you saying he's in "post season form"). as the numbers show below, he's actually been our most consistent playoff performer of the 4 core guys who've been here since 07:
avg.........obp.......... slg........ops
utley .243 .383 .480 .862
victorino .263 .341 .455 .796
rollins .226 .296 .339 .635
chooch .280 .412 .456 .868
r6 .278 .382 .517 .899
edit---those numbers seem to have got all jumbled when i hit submit. you get the point though.
howard's playoff stats are symmetrical with his regular season production...decreasing. he's struck out something like 30 of his last 60 playoff ABs (too lazy to add it up right now). so I guess you're right in a sense that he is indeed consistent...it's just not in a good way.
the guy is far from the player he was back in 06-08
i don't what else to tell you but to just put the numbers down. howards post season numbers since 07:
year.......avg.......obp.......slg........ops
07 .250 .308 .500 .808
08 .269 .397 .500 .897
09 .278 .375 .593 .968
10 .303 .395 .424 .819
higher average, higher obp, lower slugging, higher ops = not decreasing at all.
not to compare the two, but here's utley's numbers:
07 .182 .308 .182 .490
08 .220 .391 .460 .851
09 .296 .424 .648 1.072
10 .212 .325 .333 .658
all i ask is that people be rational when discussing this stuff.
so you think he was good in 09 and last year?
He KILLED the phils in the last two series that they have lost. As for utley. he wasnt' good vs sf either, but he can help the team in more ways than one...which howard cannot
the best team of all time 98 yanks ...won it all
you better do the same b4 you even think about making any type of comparisons
woogie woogie jinx
and yes iam betting them all plyoffs long
he hit a homerun in game 6 of the 09 series..what more you want??
Hook a brotha up with some good news
he was the nlcs mvp in 2009. awful in the ws. incidentally, utley didnt do much at all in the nlcs that year but carried them in the ws.
r6 was literally the only phillie to get on base consistently against the giants. came up woefully small in the last at bat, obviously. but here are then numbers in that series again:
Shane Victorino: .208/.296/.250
Placido Polanco: .250/.360/.350
Chase Utley: .182/.333/.227
Ryan Howard: .318/.400/.500
Jayson Werth: .222/.375/.611
Jimmy Rollins: .261/.320/.304
Raul Ibanez: .211/.250/.263
Carlos Ruiz: .167/.318.333
so your notion that he was in mid season form this past weekend is just completely false. that's all i am trying to convey to you.
please tell me its during the weekend...
i know nothing about that..just heard vedder was gonna be in nyc in october ..so i was hoping along those lines
which game will end quicker ...phils or giants???
what ya think?
phils with lee?
as far as i know chipper jones is the only comparing the phils to those old yankees teams. take it up with him.
neilly babes...all concerned about philly again. too funny
that would be cool too. I'd go see nickleback or DMB at MSG. Well, that's getting carried away, but that place is the fucking best
woogiw woogiw ...betting the phils every game
nah they had some espn article comparing the phils with the reds and mets and braves...just breaking chops
i think chipper said something like that too.
utley can help a team in every facet of the game. howard is one dimensional (hits for power)...unless you want to count striking out as a part of the game.
I said he was 1-12 with 8 K's in the SF series. In the last three playoff series the phisl have played (I will even give him the benefit of the doubt an include cincy, he is 14-56 with 30 k's (including a k in all 15 games). so when he struck out 75% of the time vs Sf, yes he is in playoff form.
Anyway, hopefully he and the rest of the lineup get their shit together this time around in the playoffs. Howard certainly wasnt the only reason they lost to SF. I do believe that if he gave them ANYTHING vs the yanks that the phils would have won that series though (games 2 and 3, both losses, he went 0-8 with 7 K's. Ouch)
as the numbers i have posted have shown howard has done a lot more than hit for power in the post season. we all know he strikes out too much. but if the point of the game, according to you, is to get on base, he's been doing that consistently better than anyone on the team during these last few post seasons. if anything last night's performance (extremely small sample size :thumbup: ) was more indicative of his post season play.
no he's really not even close to the main reason they lost to sf last year.
this is the reason they lost to sf:
Shane Victorino: .208/.296/.250
Placido Polanco: .250/.360/.350
Chase Utley: .182/.333/.227 :x
Ryan Howard: .318/.400/.500
Jayson Werth: .222/.375/.611
Jimmy Rollins: .261/.320/.304 :x
Raul Ibanez: .211/.250/.263 :x
Carlos Ruiz: .167/.318.333 :x
hopefully a different ending is in store for this team though, agreed.