OMG...I Just Filled My Tank & It Cost Me $85.01

Cosmo

pearljamjen wrote:

Unfortunately, not everyone can walk 2 blocks to the grocery store. I would LOVE to live near work so I could walk. But that isn't the reality right now. I am hoping to move back to Europe next year or back to a city that has a metro system or to a place where I can walk to work again (and sometimes I was walking up to an hour and really enjoyed it--it was refreshing). But that isn't a possibility now.

Not everyone is being "wasteful." Some of us just don't have options other than to drive to work. So no need to be so condescending to everybody.

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Driving to work is not wasteful. It is necessary.
Wasteful is sitting in your SUV with the motor running and the A/C going full bore for 15 minutes in a drive thru line at McDonalds.
Wasteful is driving... just for the sake of driving.
Wasteful is driving 2 blocks to sit in a drive thru line at McDonalds for 15 minutes.
America is the land of the drive thru... you can drive thru banks, dry cleaners, Starbucks, pharmacies... they even want Drive Thru voting!!!
That is waste.

Jason P

Cost me $96 to fill up my 25 gallon, 13.5 mpg efficient Chevy truck.

Tis what it is.

pearljamjen

Cosmo wrote:

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Driving to work is not wasteful. It is necessary.
Wasteful is sitting in your SUV with the motor running and the A/C going full bore for 15 minutes in a drive thru line at McDonalds.
Wasteful is driving... just for the sake of driving.
Wasteful is driving 2 blocks to sit in a drive thru line at McDonalds for 15 minutes.
America is the land of the drive thru... you can drive thru banks, dry cleaners, Starbucks, pharmacies... they even want Drive Thru voting!!!
That is waste.

Oh okay. I don't do any of that. I thought you meant all driving. I hate driving. Which is why I miss living in a place where I don't have to drive! Too many idiots on the rode anyway

Cosmo

There is an upside...
I have noticed that the traffic is lighter these days.

Cosmo

pearljamjen wrote:

Oh okay. I don't do any of that. I thought you meant all driving. I hate driving. Which is why I miss living in a place where I don't have to drive! Too many idiots on the rode anyway

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We just have to face reality... the oil companies will charge what people are willing to pay. Why give us a break when they can sell that same gallon to someone in China willing to pay 5 bucks? You, me some guy in China... we are all the same to the oil company exec. They have no loyalty to us.. just themselves.

stickfig13

pearljamjen wrote:

Unfortunately, not everyone can walk 2 blocks to the grocery store. I would LOVE to live near work so I could walk. But that isn't the reality right now. I am hoping to move back to Europe next year or back to a city that has a metro system or to a place where I can walk to work again (and sometimes I was walking up to an hour and really enjoyed it--it was refreshing). But that isn't a possibility now.

Not everyone is being "wasteful." Some of us just don't have options other than to drive to work. So no need to be so condescending to everybody.

Exactly!

I'm not being wasteful. It's is a necessary tool that I need in my current living situation. It's not possible for me to bike 150 miles a week to work.

If it's possible for me to walk or bike I do it....

stickfig13

BTW....

"going green" is a bunch of shit!

Companies are making money hand over fist to produce new consumer products that are "green".

Do you really think Toyota gives a shit about the US environment? They can sell a million Prius cars and next year come out with something more "green".

Something backwards about saving the planet and making a huge profit. All these companies are "saving the planet" because they can make a huge profit.

Cosmo

stickfig13 wrote:

Exactly!

I'm not being wasteful. It's is a necessary tool that I need in my current living situation. It's not possible for me to bike 150 miles a week to work.

If it's possible for me to walk or bike I do it....

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Why are people taking wasteful so personally? Are you making unnecessary drives? Do you waste gas idling for 20 minutes? That is waste... and a lot of Americans waste gasoline.
Case in point... my neighbor.
When gas first hit 3 bucks... she was complaining. I told her I noticed her making several trips out of our neighborhood in one day. She said, "Yeah... i'm running my errands".
She would run to the Target to get something and come home. Then, she would run over to the mall for something and return home... then, to the grocery store... or the bank... or the subway... or the gas station.
I told he she needed to plan her trips... since the Target and the supermarket were between home and the mall. Go to the mall... get what she needs... stop at the Target... then, to the supermarket... then, home.
I also checked her tires (which were under inflated) and changed her air cleaner and PCV valve and gave her my coupon for the oil change at the Jiffy Lube on the corner.
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I still see here driving in and out.. but, not half as much as she used to.

Cosmo

stickfig13 wrote:

BTW....

"going green" is a bunch of shit!

Companies are making money hand over fist to produce new consumer products that are "green".

Do you really think Toyota gives a shit about the US environment? They can sell a million Prius cars and next year come out with something more "green".

Something backwards about saving the planet and making a huge profit. All these companies are "saving the planet" because they can make a huge profit.

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Still... the Prius gets 48 MPG. I know a couple of people with them... 48 MPG. Fill up once a month.
What's the downside of that?

HushBull

Grow some wings.

stickfig13

Cosmo wrote:

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Still... the Prius gets 48 MPG. I know a couple of people with them... 48 MPG. Fill up once a month.
What's the downside of that?

There is no downside...

All I'm saying is that companies see an opportunity to make more money and pretend to save the planet at the same time. Kinda slimy if you ask me.

stickfig13

Cosmo wrote:

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Why are people taking wasteful so personally? Are you making unnecessary drives? Do you waste gas idling for 20 minutes? That is waste... and a lot of Americans waste gasoline.
Case in point... my neighbor.
When gas first hit 3 bucks... she was complaining. I told he I noticed her making several trips out of our neighborhood in one day. She said, "Yeah... i'm running my errands".
She would run to the Target to get something cnad come home. Then, she would run ouver the the mall for something and return home... then, the the grocery store... or the bank... or the subway... or the gas station.
I told he she needed to plan her trips... since the Target and the supermarket were between home and the mall. Go to the mall... get what she needs... stop at the Target... then, to the supermarket... then, home.
I also checked her tires (which were under inflated) and changed her air cleaner and PCV valve and gave her my coupon for the oil change at the Jiffy Lube on the corner.
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I still see here driving in and out.. but, not half as much as she used to.

I don't take it personally, but you should get off your high horse! People can do what they want. If they want to pay to make 10 trips to the store....Let em!

For you to chastize them and say they are "wasteful oil addicts" is a bit judgemental.

The beauty of this situation is that many of these people have made overconsumption a lifestyle. They will now learn the hard way!

JOEJOEJOE

I usually fill-up when my tank is on 3/4. Much cheaper then filling it up when its near empty.






(Yes, its a joke!)

Cosmo

stickfig13 wrote:

There is no downside...

All I'm saying is that companies see an opportunity to make more money and pretend to save the planet at the same time. Kinda slimy if you ask me.

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I don't know about the marketing side... all I know is that the people I know bought a Prius because of the gas. One is a musician and plays a lot of gigs around L.A. and another has a pretty good daily commute.
I think it's a plus that these cars are less polluting... the downside would be great gas milage/heavy pollution. The Prius is clean running/great gas mileage.

Cosmo

stickfig13 wrote:

I don't take it personally, but you should get off your high horse! People can do what they want. If they want to pay to make 10 trips to the store....Let em!

For you to chastize them and say they are "wasteful oil addicts" is a bit judgemental.

The beauty of this situation is that many of these people have made overconsumption a lifestyle. They will now learn the hard way!

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What? You DON'T think America is an OIL JUNKIE? Okay. You and I see things completely different.
If you think it's normal to run a car engine all day running their errands... then, complain about how much gas they use... fine. I feel, if you are going to waste gas... you shouldn't bitch about how much it costs.
My neighbor told me she IS NOT having to fill up as much. So, I guess my 'chastising' actually helped her save gas.
If you believe our drive thru society is not wasting gas... that's on you. I just know that you are getting 0 MPG when you are idling.

stickfig13

Cosmo wrote:

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What? You DON'T think America is an OIL JUNKIE? Okay. You and I see things completely different.
If you think it's normal to run a car engine all day running their errands... then, complain about how much gas they use... fine. I feel, if you are going to waste gas... you shouldn't bitch about how much it costs.
My neighbor told me she IS not having to fill up as much. So, I guess my 'chastising' actually helped her save gas.
If you believe our drive thru society is not wasting gas... that's on you. I just know that you are getting 0 MPG when you are idling.

I fully understand what you are saying, but why is it your mission to tell people how "addicted" they are to oil?

If she wastes gas then that's on her.....Not everyone is practicing the waste she is. However, you seem to think that everyone is that wasteful.

In other words, I realize there is a "oil addiction", but who are you to say that other people shouldn't use what they need fo their lifestyle.

People can make their own decision without people like you breathing down their necks telling them how terrible they are. Its the exact reason why most some people hate environmentlist. Delivery....

Cosmo

stickfig13 wrote:

I fully understand what you are saying, but why is it your mission to tell people how "addicted" they are to oil?

If she wastes gas then that's on her.....Not everyone is practicing the waste she is. However, you seem to think that everyone is that wasteful.

In other words, I realize there is a "oil addiction", but who are you to say that other people shouldn't use what they need fo their lifestyle.

People can make their own decision without people like you breathing down their necks telling them how terrible they are. Its the exact reason why most some people hate environmentlist. Delivery....

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My neighbor was complaining about how much her gas bill was. I gave her tips on how to cut her gas bill... which actually worked and lead to fewer trips to the gas station... and you make me out like some kind of dick.
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I'm saying... if you are BITCHING about how much it costs to run your 10 MPG Ford 250 Crew Cab... then, maybe you should re-think your decision to purchase a fucking car that gets 10 MPG or QUIT BITCHING about the damn gas.
The economy of gasoline supply and demand should NOT revolve around your habits... your habits should adjust to ever changing environments.

duggro

go and sit in the corner both of you!

time to cool off

_Crazy_Mary_

My family just went on our tri-annual Disneyland trip and for the 1st time, we spent more on gas than we did on our motel! :eek: and we stayed 3 nights!!!

Cosmo

duggro wrote:

go and sit in the corner both of you!

time to cool off

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No need to cool off. I just think the message is not getting through.
Basically... if you are going to waste... don't complain.