yeah so what are you going to do about it complain here on a message board guess what the honchos who are in control don't post here and they really don't give a fuck how much the prices go up, you know why because we can't do with out the fuel we will pay and keep on paying the prices they put on the gas .........we americans are sheep we just follow along bahhhhh bahhhhhhhh bahhhh ...
Yeah, the only way to get it to stop on an even dollar is to, maybe, stop about a dime short and give it that quick little pump. Even then, you'll probably shoot right past.
Not really complaining, just the shock that I could give an attendant a $100 bill and only get $15 back. Many years ago I made that in a day.
I work in Palm Beach for a wealthy family and live with my lady during the winter down there. Then we vacation in Key West. I've been missing the winters though I grew up in Boston.
I was trying to do just that but my hands were trembling as the total started to to hit $80.
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I'm in no way trying to defend the gas/oil companies.....but if people are still paying for it, why shouldn't they be allowed to charge whatever they want?
I mean, if I want to sell my house, don't I want to get the most for it that I possibly can?
Basically, until we quit buying and start refusing to pay for these high gas prices, they will continue to rise.
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I'm in no way trying to defend the gas/oil companies.....but if people are still paying for it, why shouldn't they be allowed to charge whatever they want?
I mean, if I want to sell my house, don't I want to get the most for it that I possibly can?
Basically, until we quit buying and start refusing to pay for these high gas prices, they will continue to rise.
I hear ya, 4 years ago I quit buying gas from Exxon and haven't since. I hope I've made a dent in their profits.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I'm thinking we need to start asking for a return on our investment in Iraq....
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The world we live in today is flowing into a situation where only rich people and big companies can afford private transportation. Gas prices will not go down, there may be days when its few cents cheaper, but the main course is up.. up and up. Until no one can afford it and we have to find alternatives.
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I'm in no way trying to defend the gas/oil companies.....but if people are still paying for it, why shouldn't they be allowed to charge whatever they want?
I mean, if I want to sell my house, don't I want to get the most for it that I possibly can?
Basically, until we quit buying and start refusing to pay for these high gas prices, they will continue to rise.
because the companies are supposed to be competitive with each other. Not collude with each other. "Hey, let's all sell gas at $5 per gallon. Then we can make $50 billion every 3 months, and our CEO can retire with $1 billion packages, not just half a billion
I haven't filled up my new car's gas tank yet, but it holds over 15 gallons, so its really gonna hurt when I go and fill it up for the first time.
It's sad when you get excited because you found a gas station selling gas for 4.29..
Its SO expensive in Chicago. I've seen 4.89 for regular. ughhhhhh :(
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I was pissed today when I saw a gas station selling gas at $3.89, 3 cents less than when I started this thread. *mad face*
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
In a couple years i'll be ready for the tour de france because I'll be biking it more often than not. Time for a revolution.
I second this! Time to buy a bike to commute to work and other short distant destinations. Biking is popular in China, Southeast Asia and other poor parts of the world. We Americans should start doing it.
It's already over $5 a gallon where I get ripped off.
Insane...
A lot of companies are closing down various locations because it's totally fucking up the economy.
I'd like to list a nice long arrangement of swear words at this point...
Then I'd like to smash a few choice govt officials in the face with a hammer until they resemble porridge...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I;ve been saying for a few weeks now that a lot of businesses will be closing soon. Deli's, bagel places, etc... It's now $1 for a plain bagel with nothing on it. That's insane. I saw an ice cream truck today that had ice cream bars for $2.50.
wow, that's insane!!! how many gallons does your vehicle hold??? mine is only 10 gallons and the cheapest i can find is $3.69 in town. if only any of the mainstream candidates were pushing for alternative sources of energy.
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he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I was just thinking the same thing...costs me £54 to fill up my car which is equivalent to about $108...........we've been paying 'through the nose' for fuel for a long time here in the UK :(
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I'm in no way trying to defend the gas/oil companies.....but if people are still paying for it, why shouldn't they be allowed to charge whatever they want?
I mean, if I want to sell my house, don't I want to get the most for it that I possibly can?
Basically, until we quit buying and start refusing to pay for these high gas prices, they will continue to rise.
Not true. As long as the demand in China and India skyrocket, the price will remain high. What we don't buy here will be bought on the open market simply to go there.
Make your life a mission - not an intermission. - Arnold Gasglow
I was just thinking the same thing...costs me £54 to fill up my car which is equivalent to about $108...........we've been paying 'through the nose' for fuel for a long time here in the UK :(
Yeah but Europeans adjusted long ago, have a better public transit system, and don't have vast amount of spaces between cities like we do here in the US. Some of my friends in California have a two to three hour commute from LA to wherever they live. Imagine what they pay in gas.
Make your life a mission - not an intermission. - Arnold Gasglow
Yeah but Europeans adjusted long ago, have a better public transit system, and don't have vast amount of spaces between cities like we do here in the US. Some of my friends in California have a two to three hour commute from LA to wherever they live. Imagine what they pay in gas.
They didn't adjust....
The rails were already there. Plus its easy to ride a bike or walk everywhere if your country is the size of Los Angeles county.
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Time to wake up, America. The decades long free ride is over... time to pay the tab.
The rest of the world has been paying what we're now paying... but, they have been paying it for decades. We have been wasting it away idling our 8 MPG Escalades in the McDonalds Drive-Thrus the whole time.
And it's not partisan politics... so quit trying to blame the political party you view as your enemy and place blame where it lies... on the doorstep of the greed mongering oil companies.
Think about it... logically. Do you REALLY believe the oil companies are benovolent entities that care more about your sorry ass than their stock price? Why should they sell you their gas for 1.50 a gallon when there are a billion Chinese dudes that will pay 6 bucks for it? What makes you so privileged?
And when they get their hands on the Alaskan oil... so you can continue your wasteful bad habits... what makes you think they will sell it to you at bargain bin prices?
Time to quit crying and face up to reality. Quit being so wasteful... conserve... and walk that 2 blocks to the liquor store for that bag of Cheetos instead of firing up the family Suburban.
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Yeah but Europeans adjusted long ago, have a better public transit system, and don't have vast amount of spaces between cities like we do here in the US. Some of my friends in California have a two to three hour commute from LA to wherever they live. Imagine what they pay in gas.
*cough cough* bollocks
the folk from the USA cant complain that they have it worse than us
one could argue we have it as bad as each other, as the recent changes have been comparable for both countries
others could say the UK draws the short straw as we are still more than double you when it comes to petrol costs
There is a reason why it is called the STRATEGIC Reserve. You know why?
Because... our military runs on oil (gasonline, diesel). If there is an outbreak of war with a large conventional force, such as Russia or China, we will need oil to run our war machine. in the cureent scenario, this means we nust secure the oil of the Middle East. with the way things are over there right now... we would need to send a total force of about 500,000 of our troops. Who'll be left to man the homefront? Montana militias? Crips?
The Alaskan Reserve will allow us to fight a war without depending on the Middle East (who will probably side with Russia or China because of our past histories).
So... quit trying to tap the strategic reserves so you can continue your wasteful ways.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
the folk from the USA cant complain that they have it worse than us
one could argue we have it as bad as each other, as the recent changes have been comparable for both countries
others could say the UK draws the short straw as we are still more than double you when it comes to petrol costs
i think the latter is more accurate
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The reason why we have paid lower prices in the past was because we meddled in Middle Eastern domestic politics to get us a better deal. That thing backfired on us on September 11, 2001. Now, we are dealing with the consequences.
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Had we been more like Scotland and just bought the fucking oil and quit fucking with their politics... yeah... we'd already be used to high prices and probablty would have figured out economic alternatives to our wasteful ways.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
There is a reason why it is called the STRATEGIC Reserve. You know why?
Because... our military runs on oil (gasonline, diesel). If there is an outbreak of war with a large conventional force, such as Russia or China, we will need oil to run our war machine. in the cureent scenario, this means we nust secure the oil of the Middle East. with the way things are over there right now... we would need to send a total force of about 500,000 of our troops. Who'll be left to man the homefront? Montana militias? Crips?
The Alaskan Reserve will allow us to fight a war without depending on the Middle East (who will probably side with Russia or China because of our past histories).
So... quit trying to tap the strategic reserves so you can continue your wasteful ways.
I drive to work and walk as much as I can. It still costs me $65+ to fill up. A few months back it cost me $35. Why the drastic increase in a few months?
People are mad over the lack of explanation. Not everybody understands the oil market and has the forward thinking that you seem to think you have.
I'm sure you're guilty of the same usage that you're railing against.
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The reason why we have paid lower prices in the past was because we meddled in Middle Eastern domestic politics to get us a better deal. That thing backfired on us on September 11, 2001. Now, we are dealing with the consequences.
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Had we been more like Scotland and just bought the fucking oil and quit fucking with their politics... yeah... we'd already be used to high prices and probablty would have figured out economic alternatives to our wasteful ways.
i agree with your point entirely, except we technically have a huge amount of oil in the North Sea above Scotland. Hasn't done us much good though dammit
I drive to work and walk as much as I can. It still costs me $65+ to fill up. A few months back it cost me $35. Why the drastic increase in a few months?
People are mad over the lack of explanation. Not everybody understands the oil market and has the forward thinking that you seem to think you have.
I'm sure you're guilty of the same usage that you're railing against.
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No. That's why I have bicycles and skateboards. I steer clear of drive thrus because nothing gets accomplished by sitting in an idling vehicle. I have no problem walking or riding my bike or skateboard the 1/4 mile to eat at the taco stand. I drive when I have to... I plan my errands to make a circular trip... I have always been that way... probably due to my OCPD or anal retentiveness. And I admit... not so much to do with fuel economy.. more to do with air pollution.
And yes... the increases are drastic... but, we have seen them coming for the past... what... 30 or so years, now? what have we been doing to curb our addiction? Nothing.
Do I feel the pinch? Yes... I do. So... I adjust. I concentrate on my needs and prioritize my 'wants'. There's a lot of crap I might want... but, don't need.
I do feel that we should not rape our nation's natural beauty, so we can continue to be a wasteful oil junkie. Addiction is what we are accustomed to. Withdrawal is painful... but, we must go through it if we want to ween ourselves from this addiction.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Time to wake up, America. The decades long free ride is over... time to pay the tab.
The rest of the world has been paying what we're now paying... but, they have been paying it for decades. We have been wasting it away idling our 8 MPG Escalades in the McDonalds Drive-Thrus the whole time.
And it's not partisan politics... so quit trying to blame the political party you view as your enemy and place blame where it lies... on the doorstep of the greed mongering oil companies.
Think about it... logically. Do you REALLY believe the oil companies are benovolent entities that care more about your sorry ass than their stock price? Why should they sell you their gas for 1.50 a gallon when there are a billion Chinese dudes that will pay 6 bucks for it? What makes you so privileged?
And when they get their hands on the Alaskan oil... so you can continue your wasteful bad habits... what makes you think they will sell it to you at bargain bin prices?
Time to quit crying and face up to reality. Quit being so wasteful... conserve... and walk that 2 blocks to the liquor store for that bag of Cheetos instead of firing up the family Suburban.
Unfortunately, not everyone can walk 2 blocks to the grocery store. I would LOVE to live near work so I could walk. But that isn't the reality right now. I am hoping to move back to Europe next year or back to a city that has a metro system or to a place where I can walk to work again (and sometimes I was walking up to an hour and really enjoyed it--it was refreshing). But that isn't a possibility now.
Not everyone is being "wasteful." Some of us just don't have options other than to drive to work. So no need to be so condescending to everybody.
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Not really complaining, just the shock that I could give an attendant a $100 bill and only get $15 back. Many years ago I made that in a day.
I work in Palm Beach for a wealthy family and live with my lady during the winter down there. Then we vacation in Key West. I've been missing the winters though I grew up in Boston.
I was trying to do just that but my hands were trembling as the total started to to hit $80.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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I mean, if I want to sell my house, don't I want to get the most for it that I possibly can?
Basically, until we quit buying and start refusing to pay for these high gas prices, they will continue to rise.
I hear ya, 4 years ago I quit buying gas from Exxon and haven't since. I hope I've made a dent in their profits.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Won't let the darkness swallow me.
because the companies are supposed to be competitive with each other. Not collude with each other. "Hey, let's all sell gas at $5 per gallon. Then we can make $50 billion every 3 months, and our CEO can retire with $1 billion packages, not just half a billion
It's sad when you get excited because you found a gas station selling gas for 4.29..
Its SO expensive in Chicago. I've seen 4.89 for regular. ughhhhhh :(
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
Insane...
A lot of companies are closing down various locations because it's totally fucking up the economy.
I'd like to list a nice long arrangement of swear words at this point...
Then I'd like to smash a few choice govt officials in the face with a hammer until they resemble porridge...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I was just thinking the same thing...costs me £54 to fill up my car which is equivalent to about $108...........we've been paying 'through the nose' for fuel for a long time here in the UK :(
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Make your life a mission - not an intermission. - Arnold Gasglow
They didn't adjust....
The rails were already there. Plus its easy to ride a bike or walk everywhere if your country is the size of Los Angeles county.
The rest of the world has been paying what we're now paying... but, they have been paying it for decades. We have been wasting it away idling our 8 MPG Escalades in the McDonalds Drive-Thrus the whole time.
And it's not partisan politics... so quit trying to blame the political party you view as your enemy and place blame where it lies... on the doorstep of the greed mongering oil companies.
Think about it... logically. Do you REALLY believe the oil companies are benovolent entities that care more about your sorry ass than their stock price? Why should they sell you their gas for 1.50 a gallon when there are a billion Chinese dudes that will pay 6 bucks for it? What makes you so privileged?
And when they get their hands on the Alaskan oil... so you can continue your wasteful bad habits... what makes you think they will sell it to you at bargain bin prices?
Time to quit crying and face up to reality. Quit being so wasteful... conserve... and walk that 2 blocks to the liquor store for that bag of Cheetos instead of firing up the family Suburban.
Hail, Hail!!!
the folk from the USA cant complain that they have it worse than us
one could argue we have it as bad as each other, as the recent changes have been comparable for both countries
others could say the UK draws the short straw as we are still more than double you when it comes to petrol costs
i think the latter is more accurate
Because... our military runs on oil (gasonline, diesel). If there is an outbreak of war with a large conventional force, such as Russia or China, we will need oil to run our war machine. in the cureent scenario, this means we nust secure the oil of the Middle East. with the way things are over there right now... we would need to send a total force of about 500,000 of our troops. Who'll be left to man the homefront? Montana militias? Crips?
The Alaskan Reserve will allow us to fight a war without depending on the Middle East (who will probably side with Russia or China because of our past histories).
So... quit trying to tap the strategic reserves so you can continue your wasteful ways.
Hail, Hail!!!
The reason why we have paid lower prices in the past was because we meddled in Middle Eastern domestic politics to get us a better deal. That thing backfired on us on September 11, 2001. Now, we are dealing with the consequences.
...
Had we been more like Scotland and just bought the fucking oil and quit fucking with their politics... yeah... we'd already be used to high prices and probablty would have figured out economic alternatives to our wasteful ways.
Hail, Hail!!!
I drive to work and walk as much as I can. It still costs me $65+ to fill up. A few months back it cost me $35. Why the drastic increase in a few months?
People are mad over the lack of explanation. Not everybody understands the oil market and has the forward thinking that you seem to think you have.
I'm sure you're guilty of the same usage that you're railing against.
No. That's why I have bicycles and skateboards. I steer clear of drive thrus because nothing gets accomplished by sitting in an idling vehicle. I have no problem walking or riding my bike or skateboard the 1/4 mile to eat at the taco stand. I drive when I have to... I plan my errands to make a circular trip... I have always been that way... probably due to my OCPD or anal retentiveness. And I admit... not so much to do with fuel economy.. more to do with air pollution.
And yes... the increases are drastic... but, we have seen them coming for the past... what... 30 or so years, now? what have we been doing to curb our addiction? Nothing.
Do I feel the pinch? Yes... I do. So... I adjust. I concentrate on my needs and prioritize my 'wants'. There's a lot of crap I might want... but, don't need.
I do feel that we should not rape our nation's natural beauty, so we can continue to be a wasteful oil junkie. Addiction is what we are accustomed to. Withdrawal is painful... but, we must go through it if we want to ween ourselves from this addiction.
Hail, Hail!!!
Unfortunately, not everyone can walk 2 blocks to the grocery store. I would LOVE to live near work so I could walk. But that isn't the reality right now. I am hoping to move back to Europe next year or back to a city that has a metro system or to a place where I can walk to work again (and sometimes I was walking up to an hour and really enjoyed it--it was refreshing). But that isn't a possibility now.
Not everyone is being "wasteful." Some of us just don't have options other than to drive to work. So no need to be so condescending to everybody.