just because you don't know anyone who has doesn't mean it hasn't happened. yeah, the chances are probably relatively small. however, you never know how something is going to effect your individual body. for example, you could have a pre-existing heart condition that you didn't even know about and *one* dose of cocaine could kill you.
My point was, it is nothing like heroin. I don't know anyone that has taken heroin and it has worked out fine for them. With cocaine I have. Giving false information helps no one. I'm not saying no one has ever OD'd first time on coke, I'm saying that it is NOT the norm.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
The only downside in the short-term, as far as I can tell, as long as you know what you are doing, is that it makes you a complete dickhead. Take a regular cunt, stick a line or two of bolivia's finest up his nose and watch him become a super-cunt.
Yerp. Just visit yer local friendly brickies' boozer on a Friday night, and see the result.
Well... the guy in Trainspotting said take your best orgasm of all time... multiply it by a thousand and you still don't even come close to heroin
great movie!
and sure...hearing/reading that DOES give one pause, like....hmmmmm.....WOW. and yet, none the less, i would NEVEr touch the stuff. it may feel like that when you take it, and thu all the MORE reason NOT to EVEr do so. who WOULDN'T want to feel like that all the time? seems like a VERY GOOD reason NOT to touch the stuff. if one could feel like that, i know i'd want to as much as possible.
that said, i'll just take my orgasms as is. good enough for me.
add in a little wine now and again...and i'm all good. :d
My point was, it is nothing like heroin. I don't know anyone that has taken heroin and it has worked out fine for them. With cocaine I have. Giving false information helps no one. I'm not saying no one has ever OD'd first time on coke, I'm saying that it is NOT the norm.
When you start playing roulette with getting high, you have a problem.
Like I said, I know someone, a fantastic high school and college athlete in super shape who had a heart attack trying coke the first time. they didnt die, but their heart is now messed up.
Back to the original topic....heroin will fuck you days up big time for a long time. I say dont try it, not even once.
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My point was, it is nothing like heroin. I don't know anyone that has taken heroin and it has worked out fine for them. With cocaine I have. Giving false information helps no one. I'm not saying no one has ever OD'd first time on coke, I'm saying that it is NOT the norm.
it's probably not the norm to OD first time on heroin either... but it happens.
Also, as with any drug... unless you make the shit from scratch, you have NO idea what the fuck you're putting up your nose... we all know that no street cocaine is pure (as that in itself would kill you anyway) so therefore you're putting your TRUST in a DRUG DEALER (several probably) to ensure they're mixing it with stuff that's SAFE to shove up your nose (what a contradiction in terms eh? ) and even if it's only some kinda harmful medication, you could be allergic.
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I dont get what is funny about this drug. It is the leading killer in our country, and they hide this and do not do shit about it. Tons of children are dying from this drug, it is the furthes thing from recreational. How people can sit here and suggest its okay to use it is just plain disrespect for mankind. Now obvuiously not everyone here is, but lets try this question.
How many people are you aware of in your personal life that have died from it.?
Friends of friends, local people in the city area. people from your schools, other family memebers in the community.
Honestly.
I know more people in my area over ten years that have died from this drug than any other.
Not just friends people that I knew maybee the equivilant to someone I was aware of from work or local sports.
I know 2 differant girls I coach sports for that had people in their fmilies die. There were 4 kids in the local high school that have died in the last 2 years.
I live in new jersey, the population is high, but I dont live in a ghetto either, I live in a community, so its everywhere.
I dont get what is funny about this drug. It is the leading killer in our country
I believe heart disease is actually. Then cancer. By a long way.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Pearl Jam wouldn't exist if weren't for herion. Don't do it, not worth it. If alcohol and pot don't get you fucked up enough something is wrong with you.
You can take Heroin only once...but chances are against you. Addictive personality, social setting, age of first time experience, financial situation, and lifestyle all have a part in whether or not you get "addicted" to heroin or if you try it more than once.
To answer your question, I have done heroin "only" one time. I have a friend who used it for a period of a year and a half and is now successfully clean...I have another friend who used it for over 7 years, and it was hell getting him to come off of it...he is currently successful, but there is no telling if he will be able to stay "clean" Additionally I knew a beautiful human being who used heroin for roughly 12 years...before succumbing to an overdose.
I realize that you were asking for information (from a merely curious standpoint) therefore I am not going to give you a "cautionary tale" I don't believe that humans should be considered as such for each other. Everyone has unique drives and experiences...it would be presumptuous of me to assume that you would get addicted, or would not get addicted from a single dose...I hope that you are not considering "trying" the drug - mostly because, the IF involved is huge and greasy...
if you DO try it - remember, you are still a human being - it changes nothing.
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I believe heart disease is actually. Then cancer. By a long way.
Ohh just joke I am the only person in the whole world concerned, I apologize for over stepping my bounds.
I guess your point is that it is a good thing, becasue you obviously dont agree with me. there are 2 sides to everything.
2 ways too look at my comment
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the numbers drop steadily when you include heart disease and cancer, or maybee I just meant drug deaths.
Either way it fucking tasteless that you would choose to break my balls in here on this issue.
Ohh just joke I am the only person in the whole world concerned, I apologize for over stepping my bounds.
I guess your point is that it is a good thing, becasue you obviously dont agree with me. there are 2 sides to everything.
2 ways too look at my comment
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the numbers drop steadily when you include heart disease and cancer, or maybee I just meant drug deaths.
Either way it fucking tasteless that you would choose to break my balls in here on this issue.
Get over yourself. I wasn't being flippant, I was telling the truth. As far as I'm concerned it's a very fucking serious issue. You know jack shit about me. I have very strong feelings on certain drugs for my own personal reasons that you know nothing about and heroin is one of them. Who are you to say that my point is heroin is a good thing? Please find the post in which I said that because I don't remember it. I DO have a problem with people mouthing off like they know something when they are just giving false information. Who the hell does that help? The starter of this thread wanted opinions, experiences, information. Not some people who haven't got a clue spouting rubbish which is only bound to cause people to be uninformed. That's the real fucking danger here, not me. Heroin is nowhere near the number one killer in America. heart disease is. That's a fact. Since when did wanting to get the facts right mean you're making light of the situation? I'm sorry, let's just erase threads like these where we have DEBATE and keep all the people who are intrigued by skag purely informed by Trainspotting shall we? Jesus christ...
And do I sound pissed off? You're damn right I do. I have my reasons. I don't think any of this is funny so get your facts straight before you start telling me I'm just breaking your balls and being tasteless. Nothing about this subject is a fucking joke to me so quit putting words into my mouth. Thanks.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
A very good friend of mine snorts herion every now and then. He never wants to shoot up though (that always comes up if it's the topic). I'd say he's got it under control. He never buys it, only takes it if it's given to him or he finds some (yes he has found some more than once at work of all places).
I should add that he enjoys beer and weed frequently. So that may be what helps him stay away from it. He is a good person. He holds a job and pays the bills in his household. He's also a great mechanic.
Don't try it. Shit it scary. Every time he gets it (not all that often) he'll ask if I want some and I tell him no and that's the end of it.
A very good friend of mine snorts herion every now and then. He never wants to shoot up though (that always comes up if it's the topic). I'd say he's got it under control. He never buys it, only takes it if it's given to him or he finds some (yes he has found some more than once at work of all places).
I should add that he enjoys beer and weed frequently. So that may be what helps him stay away from it. He is a good person. He holds a job and pays the bills in his household. He's also a great mechanic.
Don't try it. Shit it scary. Every time he gets it (not all that often) he'll ask if I want some and I tell him no and that's the end of it.
I have a very similar friend. Never shoots up, never steals to get cash, has a grip on his life. For now anyways.
He does buy though, when he can.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Get over yourself. I wasn't being flippant, I was telling the truth. As far as I'm concerned it's a very fucking serious issue. You know jack shit about me. I have very strong feelings on certain drugs for my own personal reasons that you know nothing about and heroin is one of them. Who are you to say that my point is heroin is a good thing? Please find the post in which I said that because I don't remember it. I DO have a problem with people mouthing off like they know something when they are just giving false information. Who the hell does that help? The starter of this thread wanted opinions, experiences, information. Not some people who haven't got a clue spouting rubbish which is only bound to cause people to be uninformed. That's the real fucking danger here, not me. Heroin is nowhere near the number one killer in America. heart disease is. That's a fact. Since when did wanting to get the facts right mean you're making light of the situation? I'm sorry, let's just erase threads like these where we have DEBATE and keep all the people who are intrigued by skag purely informed by Trainspotting shall we? Jesus christ...
And do I sound pissed off? You're damn right I do. I have my reasons. I don't think any of this is funny so get your facts straight before you start telling me I'm just breaking your balls and being tasteless. Nothing about this subject is a fucking joke to me so quit putting words into my mouth. Thanks.
bullcrap, there are people joking around in here and I pointed that out, so my opinion of you is going to be one of your reply to me, I meant number 1 killer with drugs, you said no more no less.
you stated I was wrong.
you new my point.
and you guys sit here and yuk it up like its something that can be controlled when you know its not.
sorry but go back and read it.
I believe heart disease is actually. Then cancer. By a long way.
You're right most likely, but that doesn't make heroin something you or anyone should dick around with.......life's too precious to play with a loaded gun like that drug.
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You're right most likely, but that doesn't make heroin something you or anyone should dick around with.......life's too precious to play with a loaded gun like that drug.
exactly my point,
I guess my remarks about the jokes werent directly from jeremey, but cmon my point was made. this shit is deadly.
Its deadly, maybee some of you guys are younger than me, and its all recreational at this point, but cmon, this is the equivilant to playin russian roulette. And besides what drug isnt addicitng. They all are, and this one happens to be hands down the worst one on the planet.
Sorry but it is a fucking killer.
It be the same as hanging around and going to bars with a serial killer.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
bullcrap, there are people joking around in here and I pointed that out, so my opinion of you is going to be one of your reply to me, I meant number 1 killer with drugs, you said no more no less.
you stated I was wrong.
you new my point.
and you guys sit here and yuk it up like its something that can be controlled when you know its not.
sorry but go back and read it.
Actually, Alcohol and nicotine are drugs. Booze and cigarettes kill more people than crack, cocaine, heroin, meth, weed, acid, mushrooms, peyote, etc. combined.
“Hello, babies. Welcome to Earth. It’s hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It’s round and wet and crowded. At the outside, babies, you’ve got about a hundred years here. There’s only one rule that I know of, babies — ‘God damn it, you’ve got to be kind.’” - Kurt Vonnegut
I guess my remarks about the jokes werent directly from jeremey, but cmon my point was made. this shit is deadly.
Its deadly, maybee some of you guys are younger than me, and its all recreational at this point, but cmon, this is the equivilant to playin russian roulette. And besides what drug isnt addicitng. They all are, and this one happens to be hands down the worst one on the planet.
Sorry but it is a fucking killer.
It be the same as hanging around and going to bars with a serial killer.
And not all drugs are addicting. Go smoke some salvia and tell me you want to do that again.
“Hello, babies. Welcome to Earth. It’s hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It’s round and wet and crowded. At the outside, babies, you’ve got about a hundred years here. There’s only one rule that I know of, babies — ‘God damn it, you’ve got to be kind.’” - Kurt Vonnegut
And not all drugs are addicting. Go smoke some salvia and tell me you want to do that again.
again recreational drugs, and your point is just to disagree with me, becasue drugs are fucked up, pills, speed, heroin,crack, cocaine
it ruins peoples lives
Actually, Alcohol and nicotine are drugs. Booze and cigarettes kill more people than crack, cocaine, heroin, meth, weed, acid, mushrooms, peyote, etc. combined.
but heroin is so much more harsh, wouldnt you agree.
again recreational drugs, and your point is just to disagree with me, becasue drugs are fucked up, pills, speed, heroin,crack, cocaine
it ruins peoples lives
You said that all drugs are addicting. They aren't. Doing any drug is not the same as playing Russian Roulette.
“Hello, babies. Welcome to Earth. It’s hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It’s round and wet and crowded. At the outside, babies, you’ve got about a hundred years here. There’s only one rule that I know of, babies — ‘God damn it, you’ve got to be kind.’” - Kurt Vonnegut
but heroin is so much more harsh, wouldnt you agree.
No, I wouldn't, because I have no experience with heroin. I've never even seen someone do heroin. The two most harmful drugs I have seen are cigs and alcohol.
“Hello, babies. Welcome to Earth. It’s hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It’s round and wet and crowded. At the outside, babies, you’ve got about a hundred years here. There’s only one rule that I know of, babies — ‘God damn it, you’ve got to be kind.’” - Kurt Vonnegut
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Actually, my dealer slipping some into my blow order is what -finally- made me quit coke.
HUGS! NOT DRUGS!
Yerp. Just visit yer local friendly brickies' boozer on a Friday night, and see the result.
great movie!
and sure...hearing/reading that DOES give one pause, like....hmmmmm.....WOW. and yet, none the less, i would NEVEr touch the stuff. it may feel like that when you take it, and thu all the MORE reason NOT to EVEr do so. who WOULDN'T want to feel like that all the time? seems like a VERY GOOD reason NOT to touch the stuff. if one could feel like that, i know i'd want to as much as possible.
that said, i'll just take my orgasms as is. good enough for me.
add in a little wine now and again...and i'm all good. :d
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Like I said, I know someone, a fantastic high school and college athlete in super shape who had a heart attack trying coke the first time. they didnt die, but their heart is now messed up.
Back to the original topic....heroin will fuck you days up big time for a long time. I say dont try it, not even once.
Also, as with any drug... unless you make the shit from scratch, you have NO idea what the fuck you're putting up your nose... we all know that no street cocaine is pure (as that in itself would kill you anyway) so therefore you're putting your TRUST in a DRUG DEALER (several probably) to ensure they're mixing it with stuff that's SAFE to shove up your nose (what a contradiction in terms eh?
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
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What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
i'm past my drug curiosity stage though to even think about heroin. but i'm still young enough to party.
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I dont get what is funny about this drug. It is the leading killer in our country, and they hide this and do not do shit about it. Tons of children are dying from this drug, it is the furthes thing from recreational. How people can sit here and suggest its okay to use it is just plain disrespect for mankind. Now obvuiously not everyone here is, but lets try this question.
How many people are you aware of in your personal life that have died from it.?
Friends of friends, local people in the city area. people from your schools, other family memebers in the community.
Honestly.
I know more people in my area over ten years that have died from this drug than any other.
Not just friends people that I knew maybee the equivilant to someone I was aware of from work or local sports.
I know 2 differant girls I coach sports for that had people in their fmilies die. There were 4 kids in the local high school that have died in the last 2 years.
I live in new jersey, the population is high, but I dont live in a ghetto either, I live in a community, so its everywhere.
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To answer your question, I have done heroin "only" one time. I have a friend who used it for a period of a year and a half and is now successfully clean...I have another friend who used it for over 7 years, and it was hell getting him to come off of it...he is currently successful, but there is no telling if he will be able to stay "clean" Additionally I knew a beautiful human being who used heroin for roughly 12 years...before succumbing to an overdose.
I realize that you were asking for information (from a merely curious standpoint) therefore I am not going to give you a "cautionary tale" I don't believe that humans should be considered as such for each other. Everyone has unique drives and experiences...it would be presumptuous of me to assume that you would get addicted, or would not get addicted from a single dose...I hope that you are not considering "trying" the drug - mostly because, the IF involved is huge and greasy...
if you DO try it - remember, you are still a human being - it changes nothing.
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I guess your point is that it is a good thing, becasue you obviously dont agree with me. there are 2 sides to everything.
2 ways too look at my comment
children
the numbers drop steadily when you include heart disease and cancer, or maybee I just meant drug deaths.
Either way it fucking tasteless that you would choose to break my balls in here on this issue.
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And do I sound pissed off? You're damn right I do. I have my reasons. I don't think any of this is funny so get your facts straight before you start telling me I'm just breaking your balls and being tasteless. Nothing about this subject is a fucking joke to me so quit putting words into my mouth. Thanks.
crazy...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I should add that he enjoys beer and weed frequently. So that may be what helps him stay away from it. He is a good person. He holds a job and pays the bills in his household. He's also a great mechanic.
Don't try it. Shit it scary. Every time he gets it (not all that often) he'll ask if I want some and I tell him no and that's the end of it.
He does buy though, when he can.
Again OP, I wouldn't recommend trying it. The risk is of addiction is far too great in my book.
bullcrap, there are people joking around in here and I pointed that out, so my opinion of you is going to be one of your reply to me, I meant number 1 killer with drugs, you said no more no less.
you stated I was wrong.
you new my point.
and you guys sit here and yuk it up like its something that can be controlled when you know its not.
sorry but go back and read it.
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You're right most likely, but that doesn't make heroin something you or anyone should dick around with.......life's too precious to play with a loaded gun like that drug.
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exactly my point,
I guess my remarks about the jokes werent directly from jeremey, but cmon my point was made. this shit is deadly.
Its deadly, maybee some of you guys are younger than me, and its all recreational at this point, but cmon, this is the equivilant to playin russian roulette. And besides what drug isnt addicitng. They all are, and this one happens to be hands down the worst one on the planet.
Sorry but it is a fucking killer.
It be the same as hanging around and going to bars with a serial killer.
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Actually, Alcohol and nicotine are drugs. Booze and cigarettes kill more people than crack, cocaine, heroin, meth, weed, acid, mushrooms, peyote, etc. combined.
And not all drugs are addicting. Go smoke some salvia and tell me you want to do that again.
again recreational drugs, and your point is just to disagree with me, becasue drugs are fucked up, pills, speed, heroin,crack, cocaine
it ruins peoples lives
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but heroin is so much more harsh, wouldnt you agree.
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You said that all drugs are addicting. They aren't. Doing any drug is not the same as playing Russian Roulette.
No, I wouldn't, because I have no experience with heroin. I've never even seen someone do heroin. The two most harmful drugs I have seen are cigs and alcohol.