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  • kenshuntkenshunt Posts: 2,863
    Oh and did Mats push a linesman at the end of the game in ur opinion hehe.
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  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    kenshunt wrote:
    Oh and did Mats push a linesman at the end of the game in ur opinion hehe.
    TSN said he did but I was looking in the wrong spot when they showed the replay...
  • kenshuntkenshunt Posts: 2,863
    He did, but it was gentle, it was at the end of the game as he was skating off the ice, the linesman kinda got in his way and he gently shoved him, i don't even know if Mats knew it was a linesman.
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  • I am a Leafs fan and for that reason I hope they lose every game for the rest of this season and all of next season.

    Stamkos and Tavres would be a great rebuilding model
  • smarcheesmarchee Posts: 14,539
    Stamkos and Tavres would be a great rebuilding model

    that kind of radical, prudent long-term planning has evaded this franchise from before I was born
    1998 ~ Barrie
    2003 ~ Toronto
    2005 ~ London, Toronto
    2006 ~ Toronto
    2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
    2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
    2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
    2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014 - Detroit
    2019 - Chicago X 2
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    :eek:, :eek:, :eek:....................What a roadtrip! I hoped they worked on their tans and their golf!
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    even flow? wrote:
    :eek:, :eek:, :eek:....................What a roadtrip! I hoped they worked on their tans and their golf!
    Well you have to get something out of it, right?
  • kenshuntkenshunt Posts: 2,863
    Rygar wrote:
    Well you have to get something out of it, right?
    I was hoping a coach and gm being fired.
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  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    kenshunt wrote:
    I was hoping a coach and gm being fired.
    Stay tuned!
  • kenshuntkenshunt Posts: 2,863
    Well do it already, i've waited to long for this
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    I am a Leafs fan and for that reason I hope they lose every game for the rest of this season and all of next season.

    Stamkos and Tavres would be a great rebuilding model

    The only problem is the NHL has a lottery now the worst team isn't guaranteed the top pick

    The Flyers were the worst team by far last year and didnt get it, Chicago did
    My drinking team has a hockey problem

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  • kenshuntkenshunt Posts: 2,863
    Leafs ask Fletcher about interim GM job


    Bob McKenzie

    1/14/2008 9:16:38 PM

    The beleaguered Toronto Maple Leafs are taking steps to try to replace general manager John Ferguson Jr.

    Sources tell TSN that the Leafs have contacted a number of hockey management types to gauge their interest in the job, which is currently held by Ferguson, and, in fact, have asked former Leaf GM Cliff Fletcher if he is interested in taking over as interim GM of the NHL club.

    Cliff Fletcher could not be reached for comment. Fletcher remains under contract to the Phoenix Coyotes even though he is no longer working for the organization.

    When asked to comment on TSN's report that Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment (MLSE) has contacted Cliff Fletcher to see if he has interest in the role of interim gm, MLSE president and CEO Richard Peddie responded, "As I have said to everyone I am not talking about management changes. If and when they happen I will talk to the media then."



    http://www.tsn.ca/tsn_talent/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=227313

    It's not 92-93 anymore, leave the past in the past lol
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  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    Crisis averted!!
    Back on track to the cup!

    I liked the interference call on Toskola. Did he touch the guy at all?
  • kenshuntkenshunt Posts: 2,863
    far from back on track, but a 5-4 win over carolina is a good starting point.
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  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    kenshunt wrote:
    far from back on track, but a 5-4 win over carolina is a good starting point.
    JFJ for life!
    2008 Stanley Cup champs!


    I bet there's headlines like those in Toronto somewhere :p
  • kenshuntkenshunt Posts: 2,863
    Rygar wrote:
    JFJ for life!
    2008 Stanley Cup champs!


    I bet there's headlines like those in Toronto somewhere :p
    Id hope that they are sarcastic if true.
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  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    kenshunt wrote:
    Id hope that they are sarcastic if true.
    haha, I'm just teasin' ya

    Maurice used the word 'buffoonery' last night referring to the press, good stuff
  • kenshuntkenshunt Posts: 2,863
    Rygar wrote:
    haha, I'm just teasin' ya

    Maurice used the word 'buffoonery' last night referring to the press, good stuff
    Yeah well he use to be part of that media, when he worked for Rogers Sportsnet hehe.
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  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    kenshunt wrote:
    Yeah well he use to be part of that media, when he worked for Rogers Sportsnet hehe.
    I didn't know he was a reporter. His smilin' days are done.
  • kenshuntkenshunt Posts: 2,863
    Rygar wrote:
    I didn't know he was a reporter. His smilin' days are done.
    Yeah he was like an in studio type, like Mike Milbury is like on TSN.
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  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    kenshunt wrote:
    Yeah he was like an in studio type, like Mike Milbury is like on TSN.
    The vulture!
  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    And done is done. Ferguson the horrible (like the rest of the assmonkeys running the show - horrible, that is) is said to be canned.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=227906&hubname=

    I hope the Laffs go winless for the rest of the year, just for spite (and personal enjoyment).
  • kenshuntkenshunt Posts: 2,863
    hehe, fuck they streched it longer than it needed to be, we knew 2 weeks ago Fletcher was going to be the GM for the rest of the season.
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  • kenshuntkenshunt Posts: 2,863
    August 29, 2003 - After a prolonged search, and with training camp just weeks away, the Maple Leafs introduce John Ferguson Jr. as the 12th general manager in Maple Leafs history. His selection is immediately questioned by some members of the Toronto media who say he is too inexperienced for the job. Adding to the intrigue is the fact the previous GM - Pat Quinn - remains as the team's coach.

    Sept. 10, 2003 - Ferguson's first significant move is to sign free-agent Joe Nieuwendyk to a one year contract. Nieuwendyk would contribute 22 goals and 50 points in 64 games that season.

    March 3, 2004 - With the team gearing up for the playoffs, Ferguson trades for New York Rangers defenceman Brian Leetch. In exchange, the Leafs up Maxim Kondratiev and Jarkko Immonen as well as a first-round pick (Kris Chucko) in the 2004 draft and a second-round pick (Michael Sauer) in the 2005 draft. Leetch plays well but is not re-signed in the summer and instead signs with Boston.

    March 9, 2004 - Ferguson claims a struggling Chad Kilger off waivers from Montreal. Kilger responds with some high-energy play and the following season scores a career-high 17 goals.

    March 9, 2004 - Ferguson picks up some more experience when he trades for Ron Francis from the Carolina Hurricanes, giving up a fourth-round pick (Jared Boll) in the 2005 draft. Francis' contributions are minimal, however, and following the season-long lockout the future Hall of Famer retires.

    April 4, 2004 - The Leafs set a team record for points with 103, compiling a record of 45-24-10-3 and finishing second in the Northeast Division. After a spirited seven-game win over Ottawa in the opening round, the Leafs are defeated in six games by the Philadelphia Flyers.

    June 30, 2004 - With the league on the verge of a lockout, Ferguson re-signs 39-year-old goaltender Ed Belfour to a three-year deal. Belfour, though, undergoes back surgery prior to the lockout and his injury status requires the team to pay his salary for the duration of the work stoppage.

    July 30, 2005 - Coming out of the lockout, a cautious Ferguson waits to gauge the new market before jumping into the free-agent pool. But after most of the top talent is quickly secured by other teams, Ferguson finally does a deal, acquiring Jeff O'Neill from Carolina for a conditional fourth-round pick (Reto Berra) in the 2006 draft.

    August 5, 2005 - Ferguson re-signs fan favourite Tie Domi, though it is widely speculated that the GM was told to by MLSE chairman Larry Tanenbaum, a friend of domi's. The impression that Ferguson doesn't have full control of hockey decisions begins to erode his credibility in Toronto.

    Also that day, Ferguson takes a gamble in signing free agent Jason Allison, who hadn't played in two years because of back trouble and the lockout. Though he earns 60 points in 66 games that season, the lumbering centreman proves too one-dimensional in the "new" NHL and a hand injury ends both his season and tenure as a Leaf.

    August 11, 2005 - Ferguson again gambles, signing free agent Eric Lindros to a one-year deal. The much-ballyhooed return of the oft-injured Lindros to his hometown is short-lived, however. Despite some early season heroics, Lindros' history repeats itself and injuries limit him to just 33 games.

    February 11, 2006 - With both Tomas Kaberle and Bryan McCabe approaching free agency, a pro-active Ferguson re-signs Kaberle to a five-year deal worth $21.25 million. The yearly average of just more than $4 million would prove to be a good deal.

    April 16, 2006 - The Leafs miss the playoffs, finishing the regular season with a record of 41-33-8, good for 90 points and fourth in the Northeast Division.

    April 20, 2006 - Shedding the perceived millstone around his neck, Ferguson fires Quinn after the team fails to make the playoffs. Ferguson eventually replaces him with Paul Maurice, who had coached the team's AHL affiliate Marlies that season.

    June 24, 2006 - In one of the most controversial deals of his tenure, Ferguson acquires goaltender Andrew Raycroft from Boston in exchange for Tuukka Rask, a young goalie many consider a future star. Though Raycroft would set a team record for wins (37) in a season in 2006-07, he fails to become the dominant No.1 goalie the team needs, forcing Ferguson to trade for Vesa Toskala the following year.

    June 28, 2006 - Ferguson rewards defenceman Bryan McCabe with a five-year, $28.75 million deal. While McCabe scored 68 points that season, the deal raises eyebrows because it is $7 million more than Kaberle, considered the better player. Both McCabe and Kaberle are also given no-movement clauses.

    June 30, 2006 - Ferguson corrects a couple of mistakes by buying out Domi and declining the option on Belfour's contract.

    July 1, 2006 - Ferguson makes his biggest splash, signing free agent defencemen Hal Gill and Pavel Kubina to multi-year, multi-million dollar contracts. While Gill is given a relatively modest $6.3 million over three years, Kubina gets $20 million over four years; a deal many consider to be over-valued.

    October 7, 2006 - In a minor deal, Ferguson signs free agent Boyd Devereaux, who begins the season playing in the AHL for the Marlies. After 30 games he is promoted to the Leafs, where he records 19 points in 33 games. A former Stanley Cup champion with the 2002 Detroit Red Wings, Devereaux becomes a steady contributor to the Leafs.

    February 27, 2007 - With the Leafs in danger of missing the playoffs, Ferguson acquires Yanic Perreault from Phoenix in exchange for Brendan Bell and a second-round pick in the 2008 draft. A faceoff specialist, Perreault contributes just five points in 17 games.

    April 8, 2007 - Though the team improves its points total to 91, the Leafs miss the playoffs for the second consecutive year. Their record of 40-31-11 leaves them third in their division.

    May, 2007 - The MLSE board decides to recruit a mentor to help Ferguson. Those considered for the job include Scotty Bowman and John Muckler, but in August, the team decides not to enact the plan.

    June, 2007 - After being promised an extension to his contract, the MLSE board opts not to grant one, leaving Ferguson with just one year on his deal.

    June 22, 2007 - Tacitly acknowledging that Raycroft might not be up to the job, Ferguson trades a first-round pick (Lars Eller) and a fourth-round pick to San Jose for Toskala and forward Mark Bell. While Toskala emerges as the team's top goalie, Bell must first serve a 15-game suspension for violating the NHL's substance abuse policy and faces a six-month jail term once the season ends.

    July 1, 2007 - In what is hailed as a good move, Ferguson signs free agent forward Jason Blake to a five-year, $20 million deal. Blake had scored 40 goals the previous season with the New York Islanders, but shortly before the season is to begin he announces he has been diagnosed with a treatable form of leukemia. To his credit, Blake continues to play but his goal output drops significantly and by mid-season he has just nine goals.

    November 27, 2007 - With the team struggling and the fans clamouring for change, Leafs president Richard Peddie is quoted on the front page of a Toronto newspaper admitting that hiring Ferguson was "a mistake." Though publicly humiliated by his boss, Ferguson downplays the drama, calling it "background" noise.

    January 14, 2008 - After a disastrous road trip through California in which the Leafs lose all three games, reports emerge that the Leafs are talking with Cliff Fletcher as a possible replacement for Ferguson. Fletcher previously was GM of the Leafs in the 1990s.

    January 22, 2008 - Ferguson is fired and replaced by Fletcher.
    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/01/22/ferguson_timeline/
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  • smarcheesmarchee Posts: 14,539
    this only works if he makes some good trades between now and the trade deadline.

    The only players overachieving this year, and thus, could either be traded or should not be traded, depending on which way you look at them are

    Sundin
    Antropov
    Toskala
    Gill
    1998 ~ Barrie
    2003 ~ Toronto
    2005 ~ London, Toronto
    2006 ~ Toronto
    2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
    2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
    2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
    2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014 - Detroit
    2019 - Chicago X 2
  • Well the biggest problem is still there...PEDDIE!!!

    I heard something today tho that said the next GM is also gonna be the pres...that Peddie would have a role of CEO....hopefully meaning he'll stay the fuck out of the hockey side. (kinda like what they did with him on the Raptors side)
    "Rock and roll is something that can't be quantified, sometimes it's not even something you hear, but FEEL!" - Bob Lefsetz
  • smarcheesmarchee Posts: 14,539
    Well the biggest problem is still there...PEDDIE!!!

    I heard something today tho that said the next GM is also gonna be the pres...that Peddie would have a role of CEO....hopefully meaning he'll stay the fuck out of the hockey side. (kinda like what they did with him on the Raptors side)

    I'll believe it when I see it. Peddie's ego is HUUUUUUUUUUGE.
    1998 ~ Barrie
    2003 ~ Toronto
    2005 ~ London, Toronto
    2006 ~ Toronto
    2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
    2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
    2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
    2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014 - Detroit
    2019 - Chicago X 2
  • smarchee wrote:
    I'll believe it when I see it. Peddie's ego is HUUUUUUUUUUGE.


    haha I know I work for them remember??? I've met Peddie many many times...and sad but true...he has the board of directors in his back pocket. Thats the only reason he keeps his job.
    "Rock and roll is something that can't be quantified, sometimes it's not even something you hear, but FEEL!" - Bob Lefsetz
  • smarcheesmarchee Posts: 14,539
    haha I know I work for them remember??

    you know, I was not aware of that.

    now I know why you go to Raptors games..........:p

    what do you do exactly ?
    1998 ~ Barrie
    2003 ~ Toronto
    2005 ~ London, Toronto
    2006 ~ Toronto
    2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
    2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
    2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
    2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014 - Detroit
    2019 - Chicago X 2
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