Good points have been made on both sides of the argument. I'd also like to add that from my personal experience speaking and knowing friends/acquaintances who have participated or have at least discussed these types of 'relationships' it seems it usually boils down to the old saying of having your cake and eating it too..people in general are selfish and create these circumstances and labels to mask a very basic desire..an excuse..but if both parties are happy with what is agreed upon, that's great..but I'd imagine it would be awfully hard to sustain..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
Good points have been made on both sides of the argument. I'd also like to add that from my personal experience speaking and knowing friends/acquaintances who have participated or have at least discussed these types of 'relationships' it seems it usually boils down to the old saying of having your cake and eating it too..people in general are selfish and create these circumstances and labels to mask a very basic desire..an excuse..but if both parties are happy with what is agreed upon, that's great..but I'd imagine it would be awfully hard to sustain..
agree with part i bolded.
*edited for complete clarity, better?
me, i am all about whatever a couple chooses for their own happiness. the pursuit of happiness is a selfish endeavor, period. i simply think the vast majority are uncomfortable with it, and thus have to label it.....like most things. c'est la vie.
and it's probably no more difficult to sustain than apparently monogamy is for many. so it at least has honesty on it's side.
hlf, d2d... could you two make a thread about open relationships be any more boring?
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Huh? Not that I care but that's exactly what I said, and you didn't like it. :rolleyes:
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Huh? Not that I care but that's exactly what I said, and you didn't like it. :rolleyes:
um.......i don't think so. your post was loaded with judgemental language and completely dismissive of the possibility of being in love and having an open relationship. my interpretation of champ's post, completely different.
also realize, you posted first....champ saw my response...so he more carefully crafted his remarks for my inevitable response.
in complete honesty, i agree with his overall thought...but his tone, especially about being selfish and an excuse....not quite right imo, however, didn't want to nitpik the small detail. overall, i agree with his points. he said if they are 100% agreed upon and happy, it's a-ok...so yea, i forgive his other, slanted rhetoric.
what i don't understand is, truly...even if you cannot imagine it for yourselves, you cannot imagine some couple being truly, fully in love......and yet enjoying the occasional roll in the hay with someone else, no strings, no emotions? people have mindless sex, fuck buddies aoften when single, during dry spells romantically, etc....so who's to say after finding that great love, if you both approve...you can't indulge in the occasional romp for the sheer newness/different factor? i mean, i don't really know of course...but i don't imagine many open relationships sustaining long-term sex relationships alongside...i always thought of it as one-night stands, no emotional involvement...just pure sex. and hey, who knows...details of that encounter shared with a partner could be even more of a sharing bond? i really don't know....just saying, i am certainly open to the possibility that there ARE couples who can and do....and are happy and completely in love.
*edit
actually, mongamous relationships *prove* this to be true all the time! the partner who cheats, says it meant nothing and the couple rebounds...only difference is, one is based in deceit, the other is open and honest. the numbers for unfaithful spouses is pretty damn staggering, so it sure seems like many manage to love, and then still want sex elsewhere too. not saying that is 'right'...just kinda makes the point that open relationships aren't so 'wrong'....
hmm. it wouldn't work for me, personally. i mean, love and sex can definitely be kept separate...but not when already involved and in love in a committed relationship.
just a question to anyone ...this or any thread...i never understand why opinions are asked for and then people fight over them. to each his own opinion, no?
um.......i don't think so. your post was loaded with judgemental language and completely dismissive of the possibility of being in love and having an open relationship. my interpretation of champ's post, completely different.
also realize, you posted first....champ saw my response...so he more carefully crafted his remarks for my inevitable response.
in complete honesty, i agree with his overall thought...but his tone, especially about being selfish and an excuse....not quite right imo, however, didn't want to nitpik the small detail. overall, i agree with his points. he said if they are 100% agreed upon and happy, it's a-ok...so yea, i forgive his other, slanted rhetoric. .
OK so we agreed about the 'have your cake and eat it' and 'it's an excuse for just getting more mindless fucking', but you prefer his comment because it ended with the P.C. liberal, overcompromising nice-ness of 'But everyone's got a right to a different style'?
I hope that everyone I know knows that I am the least judgmental person in the world, and hey, we are on a message board.. I wouldn't ever challenge someone in such a relationship.. Live and let live.
How far do you take that though? On a message board, is it not ok to fall on one side of the divide or does everything have to be 'OK.. as long as you're happy?'
By your reckoning I may as well say 'Well ya know, George Bush was a good president. I don't agree with his policies but he has the right to run the country in any way he sees fit.... who am I to judge?'
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
hmm. it wouldn't work for me, personally. i mean, love and sex can definitely be kept separate...but not when already involved and in love in a committed relationship.
just a question to anyone ...this or any thread...i never understand why opinions are asked for and then people fight over them. to each his own opinion, no?
who's fighting?
seriously?
i am as calm as anything. i consider it debate, not fighting. and it's not even the opinion i am debating per se, it's the reason behind the opinion, the thought process that i am personally interested in.
i find ALL subjects based on human nature, relationships, fascinating....and i especially enjoy discussions regarding issues that are considered outside the norm.
and i know i said i didn't want to debate ....but i simply can't help myself at times. certain topics ALWAYS intrigue me.
notice any of my posts in abortion debates, the recent prop 8 thread....and sure, open relationships or just about any topic of the human psyche.
Good points have been made on both sides of the argument. I'd also like to add that from my personal experience speaking and knowing friends/acquaintances who have participated or have at least discussed these types of 'relationships' it seems it usually boils down to the old saying of having your cake and eating it too..people in general are selfish and create these circumstances and labels to mask a very basic desire..an excuse..but if both parties are happy with what is agreed upon, that's great..but I'd imagine it would be awfully hard to sustain..
funny you should say this i think the guy i'm with is selfish by nature. sure he is not selfish when it comes to sex and pleasing me but that's only because as a man if he doesn't please a woman sexually then it means he failed as a man, that's why the fucker is trying really hard to get me to orgasm. ( sorry i know i'm being a bit too open in here ) it's not that he wants to please me, it's that he wants to know that he is great in bed for his own self-gratification.
OK so we agreed about the 'have your cake and eat it' and 'it's an excuse for just getting more mindless fucking', but you prefer his comment because it ended with the P.C. liberal, overcompromising nice-ness of 'But everyone's got a right to a different style'?
I hope that everyone I know knows that I am the least judgmental person in the world, and hey, we are on a message board.. I wouldn't ever challenge someone in such a relationship.. Live and let live.
How far do you take that though? On a message board, is it not ok to fall on one side of the divide or does everything have to be 'OK.. as long as you're happy?'
By your reckoning I may as well say 'Well ya know, George Bush was a good president. I don't agree with his policies but he has the right to run the country in any way he sees fit.... who am I to judge?'
you can say whatever you like...when did i say otherwise?
if i found your post judgemental and you say it isn't...tis my inference, no? did i ever say you were 'wrong'....i merely questioned you, or anyone, on it.
and i don't consider it PC, i personally consider it right. if people are in no way harming others, are making a mutually consentual decision and they say it makes them happy...you bet, i am for it and believe it.
again, just like your comparison of porn stars with open relationships....comparing this to george bush is a bad comparision imo. you of course can say whatever you want...but in such instances, since he is an elected official, was bound to the american people, and his actions dirrectly effect millions of people....not at all the same.
judge whatever you want....and all i said is i don't appreciate judgements in such instances of personal choice/relationships...but that in no way hinders your rights to say and do as you please.
btw - i also fully support, on a message board and in life...taking a stand for issues you believe in. and here or in real life, i will happily discuss said topics with like-minded and not-so-like-minded individuals.....it's interesting conversation to me.
open relationship - as described to me by that guy:
i have open relationships where i have the main girlfriend who i see more than the others, but i also have other say 4 or 5 or something girlfriends. and with everyone of them i'm involved emotionally......
OK so we agreed about the 'have your cake and eat it' and 'it's an excuse for just getting more mindless fucking', but you prefer his comment because it ended with the P.C. liberal, overcompromising nice-ness of 'But everyone's got a right to a different style'?
I was going to end with 'excuse' but I learn from my mistakes and decided the last line was necessary..this place is brutal man, you ought to know..you gotta pick your battles wisely ..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
funny you should say this i think the guy i'm with is selfish by nature. sure he is not selfish when it comes to sex and pleasing me but that's only because as a man if he doesn't please a woman sexually then it means he failed as a man, that's why the fucker is trying really hard to get me to orgasm. ( sorry i know i'm being a bit too open in here ) it's not that he wants to please me, it's that he wants to know that he is great in bed for his own self-gratification.
why would you ever want to be with a man like that?
if you truly think ALL he does is motivated purely for his own selfish reasons, why bother?
when i think of open relationships...i think of commited, loving relationships....who simply agree to sexual openness, in whatever form they mutually decide it will take. it's completely open and honest, and yes...respectful. we are ALL selfish creatures and have selfish, self-preserving desires too...part of being human...but that doesn't mean we always act in selfish ways.
from what you say, he just sounds plain selfish...so where's the upside there?
and hey, if HE wants an open relationship and you don't...wel that's that, isn't it? it has to be agreed on one way or another....or move on.
personally, Ive been trying to get my wife to go with the military policy of don't ask don't tell
she wont ask and I wont tell.
so far no dice though!
obviously you clearly don't love your wife then.
in all seriousness though...if two people agree to it, like it, aren't jealous....certainly is possible! anything is! however, i would guess most open relationshis are a bit more 'open' about it all....as in details. how else do you say you're going out? otherwise, you'd be introducing lies into the relationship, no?
just a question to anyone ...this or any thread...i never understand why opinions are asked for and then people fight over them. to each his own opinion, no?
It would be boring and threads wouldn't last too long if people didn't debate..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
why would you ever want to be with a man like that?
if you truly think ALL he does is motivated purely for his own selfish reasons, why bother?
when i think of open relationships...i think of commited, loving relationships....who simply agree to sexual openness, in whatever form they mutually decide it will take. it's completely open and honest, and yes...respectful. we are ALL selfish creatures and have selfish, self-preserving desires too...part of being human...but that doesn't mean we always act in selfish ways.
from what you say, he just sounds plain selfish...so where's the upside there?
and hey, if HE wants an open relationship and you don't...wel that's that, isn't it? it has to be agreed on one way or another....or move on.
i am moving on, i just wanted to see what everyone else thought of the whole issue. eh, it's just the fact that this is the 4th guy that i meet with whom it didn't work out and lasted only for few months. i really wish i could get some strength to be friends with someone first, which is what i will try to do from now on......but it's easier said than done.
why would you ever want to be with a man like that?
if you truly think ALL he does is motivated purely for his own selfish reasons, why bother?
when i think of open relationships...i think of commited, loving relationships....who simply agree to sexual openness, in whatever form they mutually decide it will take. it's completely open and honest, and yes...respectful. we are ALL selfish creatures and have selfish, self-preserving desires too...part of being human...but that doesn't mean we always act in selfish ways.
from what you say, he just sounds plain selfish...so where's the upside there?.
But we don't judge others, right?
Oh God that felt good... I think I'm getting a raging clue.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
i am moving on, i just wanted to see what everyone else thought of the whole issue. eh, it's just the fact that this is the 4th guy that i meet with whom it didn't work out and lasted only for few months. i really wish i could get some strength to be friends with someone first, which is what i will try to do from now on......but it's easier said than done.
well to me, that's not really about 'open relationships' and more about simply a selfish prick.
but i do hear ya, and understand....it hurts when love doesn't work out, but better to know now, eh? bottomline....ANY choice in a relationship needs to be mutual and fully respected....b/c it's TWO involved, and not just one selfish prick.
Oh God that felt good... I think I'm getting a raging clue.
huh?
i am making a judgment/assessment on HER information, what she thinks...and what we think she should do. i am not making vast generalizations about people i don't know, relationships i have no idea about....and saying no way could it be real love, etc. not the same thing to me, obviously. if you think that makes me hypocritical, so be it. i don't...and i couldn't care less in any case. read the post again, and it clearly is based on HER assessments, and her beliefs...
glad it made you feel good tho. why i have no idea honestly...but i am all for feeling good.
funny you should say this i think the guy i'm with is selfish by nature. sure he is not selfish when it comes to sex and pleasing me but that's only because as a man if he doesn't please a woman sexually then it means he failed as a man, that's why the fucker is trying really hard to get me to orgasm. ( sorry i know i'm being a bit too open in here ) it's not that he wants to please me, it's that he wants to know that he is great in bed for his own self-gratification.
So ultimately he is selfish from what you described and also wants to fuck other women aside from you..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
open relationship - as described to me by that guy:
i have open relationships where i have the main girlfriend who i see more than the others, but i also have other say 4 or 5 or something girlfriends. and with everyone of them i'm involved emotionally......
Oh man, I wish I had game like that when I was single....seems like the 'main girlfriend' gets the shortest end of the stick as the other women presumably are more interested in the fucking and less in the relationship aspect..lol..wow..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
Oh man, I wish I had game like that when I was single....seems like the 'main girlfriend' gets the shortest end of the stick as the other women presumably are more interested in the fucking and less in the relationship aspect..lol..wow..
actually, it sounds like what dating used to be, before everyone started to fuck their GFs/BFs.
i know my mom always said she didn't understand why couples got 'exclusive' so fast...monagamous...b/c your single years should be about dating, meeting and getting to know lots of different people, trying them out until you found your one right person to marry. i didn't have the heart to tell her the world was filled with pre-marital sexual relationships! :eek: not something my mother would ever be comofrtable with!
So ultimately he is selfish from what you described and also wants to fuck other women aside from you..
and ultimately i'm a fool for rushing into things with the first person i'm physically attracted i should really take my time, let men chase me because i deserve far more that what i got over the years.....but anyway back to open relationships
i really wish i could get some strength to be friends with someone first, which is what i will try to do from now on......but it's easier said than done.
I agree, take it slow..don't go right for the sausage, no matter how tempting it might be ..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
i am making a judgment/assessment on HER information, what she thinks...and what we think she should do. i am not making vast generalizations about people i don't know, relationships i have no idea about....and saying no way could it be real love, etc. not the same thing to me, obviously. if you think that makes me hypocritical, so be it. i don't...and i couldn't care less in any case. read the post again, and it clearly is based on HER assessments, and her beliefs...
glad it made you feel good tho. why i have no idea honestly...but i am all for feeling good.
Look, this debate is all in fun.. and because I've got nothing better to do on a Tuesday night. I've no intention of calling you a hypocrite. It was a joke.
But to be fair, you have no more information about this relationship or this guy's motivations for doing what he does, than I have about the relationships which have helped me form my own opinions.. relationships involving people I knew. You based your judgments on a few lines on a message board.
I'm out.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Comments
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
agree with part i bolded.
*edited for complete clarity, better?
me, i am all about whatever a couple chooses for their own happiness. the pursuit of happiness is a selfish endeavor, period. i simply think the vast majority are uncomfortable with it, and thus have to label it.....like most things. c'est la vie.
and it's probably no more difficult to sustain than apparently monogamy is for many.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Huh? Not that I care but that's exactly what I said, and you didn't like it. :rolleyes:
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
hahahaha
yeah where is the smut!!!
Sorry....
Geeeet yer tits out
Geeeet yer tits out
Geeeet yer tits out for the lads!
Better?
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
um.......i don't think so. your post was loaded with judgemental language and completely dismissive of the possibility of being in love and having an open relationship. my interpretation of champ's post, completely different.
also realize, you posted first....champ saw my response...so he more carefully crafted his remarks for my inevitable response.
in complete honesty, i agree with his overall thought...but his tone, especially about being selfish and an excuse....not quite right imo, however, didn't want to nitpik the small detail. overall, i agree with his points. he said if they are 100% agreed upon and happy, it's a-ok...so yea, i forgive his other, slanted rhetoric.
what i don't understand is, truly...even if you cannot imagine it for yourselves, you cannot imagine some couple being truly, fully in love......and yet enjoying the occasional roll in the hay with someone else, no strings, no emotions? people have mindless sex, fuck buddies aoften when single, during dry spells romantically, etc....so who's to say after finding that great love, if you both approve...you can't indulge in the occasional romp for the sheer newness/different factor? i mean, i don't really know of course...but i don't imagine many open relationships sustaining long-term sex relationships alongside...i always thought of it as one-night stands, no emotional involvement...just pure sex. and hey, who knows...details of that encounter shared with a partner could be even more of a sharing bond? i really don't know....just saying, i am certainly open to the possibility that there ARE couples who can and do....and are happy and completely in love.
*edit
actually, mongamous relationships *prove* this to be true all the time! the partner who cheats, says it meant nothing and the couple rebounds...only difference is, one is based in deceit, the other is open and honest. the numbers for unfaithful spouses is pretty damn staggering, so it sure seems like many manage to love, and then still want sex elsewhere too. not saying that is 'right'...just kinda makes the point that open relationships aren't so 'wrong'....
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
hahaha hahahaha
MUCH
just a question to anyone ...this or any thread...i never understand why opinions are asked for and then people fight over them. to each his own opinion, no?
that's hilarious!i was pleasantly surprised to see this kind of come back
OK so we agreed about the 'have your cake and eat it' and 'it's an excuse for just getting more mindless fucking', but you prefer his comment because it ended with the P.C. liberal, overcompromising nice-ness of 'But everyone's got a right to a different style'?
I hope that everyone I know knows that I am the least judgmental person in the world, and hey, we are on a message board.. I wouldn't ever challenge someone in such a relationship.. Live and let live.
How far do you take that though? On a message board, is it not ok to fall on one side of the divide or does everything have to be 'OK.. as long as you're happy?'
By your reckoning I may as well say 'Well ya know, George Bush was a good president. I don't agree with his policies but he has the right to run the country in any way he sees fit.... who am I to judge?'
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
who's fighting?
seriously?
i am as calm as anything. i consider it debate, not fighting. and it's not even the opinion i am debating per se, it's the reason behind the opinion, the thought process that i am personally interested in.
i find ALL subjects based on human nature, relationships, fascinating....and i especially enjoy discussions regarding issues that are considered outside the norm.
and i know i said i didn't want to debate
notice any of my posts in abortion debates, the recent prop 8 thread....and sure, open relationships or just about any topic of the human psyche.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
she wont ask and I wont tell.
so far no dice though!
funny you should say this i think the guy i'm with is selfish by nature. sure he is not selfish when it comes to sex and pleasing me but that's only because as a man if he doesn't please a woman sexually then it means he failed as a man, that's why the fucker is trying really hard to get me to orgasm. ( sorry i know i'm being a bit too open in here ) it's not that he wants to please me, it's that he wants to know that he is great in bed for his own self-gratification.
you can say whatever you like...when did i say otherwise?
if i found your post judgemental and you say it isn't...tis my inference, no? did i ever say you were 'wrong'....i merely questioned you, or anyone, on it.
and i don't consider it PC, i personally consider it right. if people are in no way harming others, are making a mutually consentual decision and they say it makes them happy...you bet, i am for it and believe it.
again, just like your comparison of porn stars with open relationships....comparing this to george bush is a bad comparision imo. you of course can say whatever you want...but in such instances, since he is an elected official, was bound to the american people, and his actions dirrectly effect millions of people....not at all the same.
judge whatever you want....and all i said is i don't appreciate judgements in such instances of personal choice/relationships...but that in no way hinders your rights to say and do as you please.
btw - i also fully support, on a message board and in life...taking a stand for issues you believe in. and here or in real life, i will happily discuss said topics with like-minded and not-so-like-minded individuals.....it's interesting conversation to me.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
i have open relationships where i have the main girlfriend who i see more than the others, but i also have other say 4 or 5 or something girlfriends. and with everyone of them i'm involved emotionally......
I was going to end with 'excuse' but I learn from my mistakes and decided the last line was necessary..this place is brutal man, you ought to know..you gotta pick your battles wisely
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
why would you ever want to be with a man like that?
if you truly think ALL he does is motivated purely for his own selfish reasons, why bother?
when i think of open relationships...i think of commited, loving relationships....who simply agree to sexual openness, in whatever form they mutually decide it will take. it's completely open and honest, and yes...respectful. we are ALL selfish creatures and have selfish, self-preserving desires too...part of being human...but that doesn't mean we always act in selfish ways.
from what you say, he just sounds plain selfish...so where's the upside there?
and hey, if HE wants an open relationship and you don't...wel that's that, isn't it? it has to be agreed on one way or another....or move on.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
obviously you clearly don't love your wife then.
in all seriousness though...if two people agree to it, like it, aren't jealous....certainly is possible! anything is! however, i would guess most open relationshis are a bit more 'open' about it all....as in details. how else do you say you're going out? otherwise, you'd be introducing lies into the relationship, no?
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
It would be boring and threads wouldn't last too long if people didn't debate..
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
i am moving on, i just wanted to see what everyone else thought of the whole issue. eh, it's just the fact that this is the 4th guy that i meet with whom it didn't work out and lasted only for few months. i really wish i could get some strength to be friends with someone first, which is what i will try to do from now on......but it's easier said than done.
But we don't judge others, right?
Oh God that felt good... I think I'm getting a raging clue.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
well to me, that's not really about 'open relationships' and more about simply a selfish prick.
but i do hear ya, and understand....it hurts when love doesn't work out, but better to know now, eh? bottomline....ANY choice in a relationship needs to be mutual and fully respected....b/c it's TWO involved, and not just one selfish prick.
huh?
i am making a judgment/assessment on HER information, what she thinks...and what we think she should do. i am not making vast generalizations about people i don't know, relationships i have no idea about....and saying no way could it be real love, etc. not the same thing to me, obviously. if you think that makes me hypocritical, so be it. i don't...and i couldn't care less in any case.
glad it made you feel good tho.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
So ultimately he is selfish from what you described and also wants to fuck other women aside from you..
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
Oh man, I wish I had game like that when I was single....seems like the 'main girlfriend' gets the shortest end of the stick as the other women presumably are more interested in the fucking and less in the relationship aspect..lol..wow..
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
actually, it sounds like what dating used to be, before everyone started to fuck their GFs/BFs.
i know my mom always said she didn't understand why couples got 'exclusive' so fast...monagamous...b/c your single years should be about dating, meeting and getting to know lots of different people, trying them out until you found your one right person to marry. i didn't have the heart to tell her the world was filled with pre-marital sexual relationships! :eek: not something my mother would ever be comofrtable with!
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
and ultimately i'm a fool for rushing into things with the first person i'm physically attracted i should really take my time, let men chase me because i deserve far more that what i got over the years.....but anyway back to open relationships
I agree, take it slow..don't go right for the sausage, no matter how tempting it might be
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
Look, this debate is all in fun.. and because I've got nothing better to do on a Tuesday night. I've no intention of calling you a hypocrite. It was a joke.
But to be fair, you have no more information about this relationship or this guy's motivations for doing what he does, than I have about the relationships which have helped me form my own opinions.. relationships involving people I knew. You based your judgments on a few lines on a message board.
I'm out.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison