I've never really been able to fathom the logic behind this old saying.
defeatism and lack of confidence. It's a cop out.
It's admitting failure or trying to some how feel better about yourself after some woman has ruined your confidence. You have to rise above that crap, realize what you have and who you are and go find the next one. Guys that seemingly get lots of women get rejected constantly they just shrug it off and go on to the next one. Nice Guys Finish Last means you put too many eggs in one basket. Never compromise who you are, simply be confident in yourself and your abilities and eventually you will succede. It took me a lot of time to figure that shit out.
My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
I've never really been able to fathom the logic behind this old saying.
I think it means that if you are a nice guy you will lose out because the creeps of the world are faster and more into winning than us nice guys who would bump into people and stop to say, "I'm sorry"...........
That expression is most often said after someone screws you over and you are bitter. Still, I think that "nice guys finish last" because we are still alive in the end. Hopefully all of the assholes in the world will die out first on their own poison............
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
I think it means that if you are a nice guy you will lose out because the creeps of the world are faster and more into winning than us nice guys who would bump into people and stop to say, "I'm sorry"...........
That expression is most often said after someone screws you over and you are bitter. Still, I think that "nice guys finish last" because we are still alive in the end. Hopefully all of the assholes in the world will die out first on their own poison............
well said...
These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
Ok...I thought about this today.
I don't think it has to do with only men having their hearts ripped out by some girl that wants to be with a jerk.
I think it has more to do with not being assertive and standing up for yourself. Not being the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.
You can either be passive and let the world pass you buy or you can grab the bull by the horns.
Just my thoughts.
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
You're all onto it, ..Cory Flanders would say..'the meek shall inherit the earth'. Thing is, if you want something,..you have to grit your teeth, be a bit nasty and take it..nice guys have trouble doing that. When I was plaing semi-serious football, I found with experience I had to almost alter my mind state for certain games...I had to become something I wasn't usually, I had to become nasty, mean, thoughtless, selfish..otherwise, if you're polite and kind..the bad guys knock you out of the way, and take the prize...or the girl, whichever way you look at it.
You're all onto it, ..Cory Flanders would say..'the meek shall inherit the earth'. Thing is, if you want something,..you have to grit your teeth, be a bit nasty and take it..nice guys have trouble doing that. When I was plaing semi-serious football, I found with experience I had to almost alter my mind state for certain games...I had to become something I wasn't usually, I had to become nasty, mean, thoughtless, selfish..otherwise, if you're polite and kind..the bad guys knock you out of the way, and take the prize...or the girl, whichever way you look at it.
Make sense??? Didn't think so.
You are making some sense there Jamie. Aggressive doesn't always mean nasty. But I don't think that is what you meant.
I guess it is different for different events.
Times it is ok to be nasty/aggressive:
playing footie
someone gets on your case in a parking lot
Times to be aggessive:
going for a job or client
going after a guy/girl
A mentor of mine told me years ago that if you are not going to do it, someone will.
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
Ok...I thought about this today.
I don't think it has to do with only men having their hearts ripped out by some girl that wants to be with a jerk.
I think it has more to do with not being assertive and standing up for yourself. Not being the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.
You can either be passive and let the world pass you buy or you can grab the bull by the horns.
Just my thoughts.
aha! apparently I should be grabbing a bull by the horns instead of his balls? what didn't someone tell me this sooner?
I think it means, that two guys are in a race. The friendlier guy stops to drink some lemonade, whilst creating a rapport with the onlookers/drink-giving-outers. He was friendly.......he was nice.
Is that true, though, or is that just coming from somebody's bitterness?
I think its true but is also from bitterness from A LOT of nice guys. It's a bit unfair on them I know.
I mean I know one guy who is perfectly nice, earns a lot, has good conversation, solvent, has own car and hair, but he can never get a girlfriend. I don't know why but maybe it's because he is slightly "boring".
But when I say boring I don't mean boring as in boring personality, I mean boring as in he doesn't fire a girl's imagination. A boring persona maybe? I think that's the problem with nice guys. You can imagine them paying all the bills on time and driving carefully, and treating you right as well (which counts for a lot). But you can't see him being spontaneous, taking you roughly up against a wall or something lol.
It's a sad but true fact that nice men don't satisfy a girl's "inner cave girl" need for a bit of action sometimes. Take Eddie for example. He's definitely someone who you can see is a nice person but is not a "nice guy". He has a mean and moody side and you just don't know what he's thinking, or what he's going to do next. He's not predictable, (even though in reality he could be). He just doesn't come across that way. It's not in his "persona".
I don't know if I'm answering the question right or anything, it's just my take on it as a female who is often attracted to "bad guys" - which is not a good thing btw. I hope I grow out of it soon!
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London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
I think its true but is also from bitterness from A LOT of nice guys. It's a bit unfair on them I know.
I mean I know one guy who is perfectly nice, earns a lot, has good conversation, solvent, has own car and hair, but he can never get a girlfriend. I don't know why but maybe it's because he is slightly "boring".
But when I say boring I don't mean boring as in boring personality, I mean boring as in he doesn't fire a girl's imagination. A boring persona maybe? I think that's the problem with nice guys. You can imagine them paying all the bills on time and driving carefully, and treating you right as well (which counts for a lot). But you can't see him being spontaneous, taking you roughly up against a wall or something lol.
It's a sad but true fact that nice men don't satisfy a girl's "inner cave girl" need for a bit of action sometimes. Take Eddie for example. He's definitely someone who you can see is a nice person but is not a "nice guy". He has a mean and moody side and you just don't know what he's thinking, or what he's going to do next. He's not predictable, (even though in reality he could be). He just doesn't come across that way. It's not in his "persona".
I don't know if I'm answering the question right or anything, it's just my take on it as a female who is often attracted to "bad guys" - which is not a good thing btw. I hope I grow out of it soon!
hmm... no that may be a good description! Cos even though I want a nice guy, I still want excitement in my life... and spontanaeity is definitely underrated. I don't want to find someone who's JUST looking for the wife, house and kids. I want someone to have fun with and be adventurous... and I don't see that in sitting in watching dvd's on a Friday night or saving up for college funds
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
i went up to the same girl and said, "hey this friday, wear something nice about 7pm, we're going out to eat at xyz place" there was nothing from her but a big smile and an ok. i wasnt rude to her but i wasnt exactly nice. there was a lot more of me not really paying attention when she was talking. looking at another girl that walked by. no please, or thank you's to anyone helping us when we went out to eat or went to the movies (my picks). we generally did what i wanted to. the chemistry between us was almost instantly better. until i found out that her life ambition was to be a female body builder and be a triathlete. i mean really, fuck that.
This is exactly what I was talking about, lol!
"We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan --- London, Brixton, 14 July 1993 London, Wembley, 1996 London, Wembley, 18 June 2007 London, O2, 18 August 2009 London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012 Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
Nice guys finish first...after college. The bitchy women gotta whore around with the assholes first...then when they're left all alone and vulnerable, they get with the nice guy they should have been with all along.
Nice guys finish first...after college. The bitchy women gotta whore around with the assholes first...then when they're left all alone and vulnerable, they get with the nice guy they should have been with all along.
so ya reckon the bitchy women shoulda been with the nice guys? nope, when everyone grows up, the nice people find eachother.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
so ya reckon the bitchy women shoulda been with the nice guys? nope, when everyone grows up, the nice people find eachother.
I'm hoping I'll meet someone 'nice' some day.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
audiodave, that's true... could be why I'm still single although I'm not entirely sure I fall under the 'nice' category anyway
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
I meant EXCEPT you, Dunk. We have an open relationship, remember? You said you liked swinging.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
I think its true but is also from bitterness from A LOT of nice guys. It's a bit unfair on them I know.
I mean I know one guy who is perfectly nice, earns a lot, has good conversation, solvent, has own car and hair, but he can never get a girlfriend. I don't know why but maybe it's because he is slightly "boring".
But when I say boring I don't mean boring as in boring personality, I mean boring as in he doesn't fire a girl's imagination. A boring persona maybe? I think that's the problem with nice guys. You can imagine them paying all the bills on time and driving carefully, and treating you right as well (which counts for a lot). But you can't see him being spontaneous, taking you roughly up against a wall or something lol.
It's a sad but true fact that nice men don't satisfy a girl's "inner cave girl" need for a bit of action sometimes. Take Eddie for example. He's definitely someone who you can see is a nice person but is not a "nice guy". He has a mean and moody side and you just don't know what he's thinking, or what he's going to do next. He's not predictable, (even though in reality he could be). He just doesn't come across that way. It's not in his "persona".
I don't know if I'm answering the question right or anything, it's just my take on it as a female who is often attracted to "bad guys" - which is not a good thing btw. I hope I grow out of it soon!
well said. that goes both ways too. cos i hear nice girls complain about getting dumped for bitches and it's for the same reaons. like the perfectly sweet girl i've got now, who is just plain kinda boring.
I think it means, that two guys are in a race. The friendlier guy stops to drink some lemonade, whilst creating a rapport with the onlookers/drink-giving-outers. He was friendly.......he was nice.
I think it means, that two guys are in a race. The friendlier guy stops to drink some lemonade, whilst creating a rapport with the onlookers/drink-giving-outers. He was friendly.......he was nice.
He finished last.
duh.
i'm not either, but i do like your imagination, and your weird train of thought.
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defeatism and lack of confidence. It's a cop out.
It's admitting failure or trying to some how feel better about yourself after some woman has ruined your confidence. You have to rise above that crap, realize what you have and who you are and go find the next one. Guys that seemingly get lots of women get rejected constantly they just shrug it off and go on to the next one. Nice Guys Finish Last means you put too many eggs in one basket. Never compromise who you are, simply be confident in yourself and your abilities and eventually you will succede. It took me a lot of time to figure that shit out.
He's probably so damn nice that he'd listen to my apology for dissing him by minimizing how terrific I think his is.
what he said^
In my experience I find it's true.
I think it means that if you are a nice guy you will lose out because the creeps of the world are faster and more into winning than us nice guys who would bump into people and stop to say, "I'm sorry"...........
That expression is most often said after someone screws you over and you are bitter. Still, I think that "nice guys finish last" because we are still alive in the end. Hopefully all of the assholes in the world will die out first on their own poison............
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
well said...
have sex with you then break your heart. Oh, girls when will you learn? Give a nice guy a break, eh
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Bad guys are better in bed, nice guys are usually better to marry.
Good for you to all of the girls who can get both..........
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
I don't think it has to do with only men having their hearts ripped out by some girl that wants to be with a jerk.
I think it has more to do with not being assertive and standing up for yourself. Not being the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.
You can either be passive and let the world pass you buy or you can grab the bull by the horns.
Just my thoughts.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
Make sense??? Didn't think so.
I guess it is different for different events.
Times it is ok to be nasty/aggressive:
playing footie
someone gets on your case in a parking lot
Times to be aggessive:
going for a job or client
going after a guy/girl
A mentor of mine told me years ago that if you are not going to do it, someone will.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
aha! apparently I should be grabbing a bull by the horns instead of his balls? what didn't someone tell me this sooner?
angels share laughter
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
I think it means, that two guys are in a race. The friendlier guy stops to drink some lemonade, whilst creating a rapport with the onlookers/drink-giving-outers. He was friendly.......he was nice.
He finished last.
duh.
Yes, Prism..horns good, balls bad.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
I think its true but is also from bitterness from A LOT of nice guys. It's a bit unfair on them I know.
I mean I know one guy who is perfectly nice, earns a lot, has good conversation, solvent, has own car and hair, but he can never get a girlfriend. I don't know why but maybe it's because he is slightly "boring".
But when I say boring I don't mean boring as in boring personality, I mean boring as in he doesn't fire a girl's imagination. A boring persona maybe? I think that's the problem with nice guys. You can imagine them paying all the bills on time and driving carefully, and treating you right as well (which counts for a lot). But you can't see him being spontaneous, taking you roughly up against a wall or something lol.
It's a sad but true fact that nice men don't satisfy a girl's "inner cave girl" need for a bit of action sometimes. Take Eddie for example. He's definitely someone who you can see is a nice person but is not a "nice guy". He has a mean and moody side and you just don't know what he's thinking, or what he's going to do next. He's not predictable, (even though in reality he could be). He just doesn't come across that way. It's not in his "persona".
I don't know if I'm answering the question right or anything, it's just my take on it as a female who is often attracted to "bad guys" - which is not a good thing btw. I hope I grow out of it soon!
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London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
London, Wembley, 1996
London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
London, O2, 18 August 2009
London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
This is exactly what I was talking about, lol!
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London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
London, Wembley, 1996
London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
London, O2, 18 August 2009
London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I'm hoping I'll meet someone 'nice' some day.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
You probably have. But they usually already have a partner.
I don't wanna think, I wanna feel
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audiodave, that's true... could be why I'm still single
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
you've met me
I meant EXCEPT you, Dunk. We have an open relationship, remember? You said you liked swinging.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
well said. that goes both ways too. cos i hear nice girls complain about getting dumped for bitches and it's for the same reaons. like the perfectly sweet girl i've got now, who is just plain kinda boring.
no.
i'm not either, but i do like your imagination, and your weird train of thought.