what does this saying mean to you?

Pacomc79

gue_barium wrote:

"Nice guys finish last."

I've never really been able to fathom the logic behind this old saying.

defeatism and lack of confidence. It's a cop out.

It's admitting failure or trying to some how feel better about yourself after some woman has ruined your confidence. You have to rise above that crap, realize what you have and who you are and go find the next one. Guys that seemingly get lots of women get rejected constantly they just shrug it off and go on to the next one. Nice Guys Finish Last means you put too many eggs in one basket. Never compromise who you are, simply be confident in yourself and your abilities and eventually you will succede. It took me a lot of time to figure that shit out.

fada

I hear it mainly it sport and it berates the fact that you would have to get rutless to win

Spunkie

This expression reminds me of Jeff. He's the guy that would walk away, if his "friend saw you first".

He's probably so damn nice that he'd listen to my apology for dissing him by minimizing how terrific I think his is.

libragirl

Phantom Pain wrote:

Usually the nice guys are the ones that get shit on

Or the ones that dont get the girl, they'd rather go for the asshole rather then the nice guy

what he said^

In my experience I find it's true.

writersu

gue_barium wrote:

"Nice guys finish last."

I've never really been able to fathom the logic behind this old saying.

I think it means that if you are a nice guy you will lose out because the creeps of the world are faster and more into winning than us nice guys who would bump into people and stop to say, "I'm sorry"...........

That expression is most often said after someone screws you over and you are bitter. Still, I think that "nice guys finish last" because we are still alive in the end. Hopefully all of the assholes in the world will die out first on their own poison............

libragirl

writersu wrote:

I think it means that if you are a nice guy you will lose out because the creeps of the world are faster and more into winning than us nice guys who would bump into people and stop to say, "I'm sorry"...........

That expression is most often said after someone screws you over and you are bitter. Still, I think that "nice guys finish last" because we are still alive in the end. Hopefully all of the assholes in the world will die out first on their own poison............

well said...

satansbedbugs

girls are silly, they go for the asshole every time. They

have sex with you then break your heart. Oh, girls when will you learn? Give a nice guy a break, eh

soulsinging

satansbedbugs wrote:

girls are silly, they go for the asshole every time. They

have sex with you then break your heart. Oh, girls when will you learn? Give a nice guy a break, eh

why do guys keep confusing sex with love?

gue_barium

soulsinging wrote:

why do guys keep confusing sex with love?

Mother withheld affection?

writersu

satansbedbugs wrote:

girls are silly, they go for the asshole every time. They

have sex with you then break your heart. Oh, girls when will you learn? Give a nice guy a break, eh

Bad guys are better in bed, nice guys are usually better to marry.

Good for you to all of the girls who can get both..........

TrixieCat

Ok...I thought about this today.
I don't think it has to do with only men having their hearts ripped out by some girl that wants to be with a jerk.
I think it has more to do with not being assertive and standing up for yourself. Not being the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.
You can either be passive and let the world pass you buy or you can grab the bull by the horns.
Just my thoughts.

jamie uk

You're all onto it, ..Cory Flanders would say..'the meek shall inherit the earth'. Thing is, if you want something,..you have to grit your teeth, be a bit nasty and take it..nice guys have trouble doing that. When I was plaing semi-serious football, I found with experience I had to almost alter my mind state for certain games...I had to become something I wasn't usually, I had to become nasty, mean, thoughtless, selfish..otherwise, if you're polite and kind..the bad guys knock you out of the way, and take the prize...or the girl, whichever way you look at it.

Make sense??? Didn't think so.

TrixieCat

jamie uk wrote:

You're all onto it, ..Cory Flanders would say..'the meek shall inherit the earth'. Thing is, if you want something,..you have to grit your teeth, be a bit nasty and take it..nice guys have trouble doing that. When I was plaing semi-serious football, I found with experience I had to almost alter my mind state for certain games...I had to become something I wasn't usually, I had to become nasty, mean, thoughtless, selfish..otherwise, if you're polite and kind..the bad guys knock you out of the way, and take the prize...or the girl, whichever way you look at it.

Make sense??? Didn't think so.

You are making some sense there Jamie. Aggressive doesn't always mean nasty. But I don't think that is what you meant.
I guess it is different for different events.
Times it is ok to be nasty/aggressive:
playing footie
someone gets on your case in a parking lot

Times to be aggessive:
going for a job or client
going after a guy/girl

A mentor of mine told me years ago that if you are not going to do it, someone will.

prism

TrixieCat wrote:

Ok...I thought about this today.
I don't think it has to do with only men having their hearts ripped out by some girl that wants to be with a jerk.
I think it has more to do with not being assertive and standing up for yourself. Not being the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.
You can either be passive and let the world pass you buy or you can grab the bull by the horns.
Just my thoughts.

aha! apparently I should be grabbing a bull by the horns instead of his balls? what didn't someone tell me this sooner?

rarghrargh-brownstar

I never got it either.....good call.

I think it means, that two guys are in a race. The friendlier guy stops to drink some lemonade, whilst creating a rapport with the onlookers/drink-giving-outers. He was friendly.......he was nice.


He finished last.

duh.

TrixieCat

prism wrote:

aha! apparently I should be grabbing a bull by the horns instead of his balls? what didn't someone tell me this sooner?

Yes, Prism..horns good, balls bad.

Restless Soul

gue_barium wrote:

Is that true, though, or is that just coming from somebody's bitterness?

I think its true but is also from bitterness from A LOT of nice guys. It's a bit unfair on them I know.

I mean I know one guy who is perfectly nice, earns a lot, has good conversation, solvent, has own car and hair, but he can never get a girlfriend. I don't know why but maybe it's because he is slightly "boring".

But when I say boring I don't mean boring as in boring personality, I mean boring as in he doesn't fire a girl's imagination. A boring persona maybe? I think that's the problem with nice guys. You can imagine them paying all the bills on time and driving carefully, and treating you right as well (which counts for a lot). But you can't see him being spontaneous, taking you roughly up against a wall or something lol.

It's a sad but true fact that nice men don't satisfy a girl's "inner cave girl" need for a bit of action sometimes. Take Eddie for example. He's definitely someone who you can see is a nice person but is not a "nice guy". He has a mean and moody side and you just don't know what he's thinking, or what he's going to do next. He's not predictable, (even though in reality he could be). He just doesn't come across that way. It's not in his "persona".

I don't know if I'm answering the question right or anything, it's just my take on it as a female who is often attracted to "bad guys" - which is not a good thing btw. I hope I grow out of it soon!

Heineken Helen

Restless Soul wrote:

I think its true but is also from bitterness from A LOT of nice guys. It's a bit unfair on them I know.

I mean I know one guy who is perfectly nice, earns a lot, has good conversation, solvent, has own car and hair, but he can never get a girlfriend. I don't know why but maybe it's because he is slightly "boring".

But when I say boring I don't mean boring as in boring personality, I mean boring as in he doesn't fire a girl's imagination. A boring persona maybe? I think that's the problem with nice guys. You can imagine them paying all the bills on time and driving carefully, and treating you right as well (which counts for a lot). But you can't see him being spontaneous, taking you roughly up against a wall or something lol.

It's a sad but true fact that nice men don't satisfy a girl's "inner cave girl" need for a bit of action sometimes. Take Eddie for example. He's definitely someone who you can see is a nice person but is not a "nice guy". He has a mean and moody side and you just don't know what he's thinking, or what he's going to do next. He's not predictable, (even though in reality he could be). He just doesn't come across that way. It's not in his "persona".

I don't know if I'm answering the question right or anything, it's just my take on it as a female who is often attracted to "bad guys" - which is not a good thing btw. I hope I grow out of it soon!

hmm... no that may be a good description! Cos even though I want a nice guy, I still want excitement in my life... and spontanaeity is definitely underrated. I don't want to find someone who's JUST looking for the wife, house and kids. I want someone to have fun with and be adventurous... and I don't see that in sitting in watching dvd's on a Friday night or saving up for college funds

Restless Soul

justjoshingu wrote:

i went up to the same girl and said, "hey this friday, wear something nice about 7pm, we're going out to eat at xyz place" there was nothing from her but a big smile and an ok. i wasnt rude to her but i wasnt exactly nice. there was a lot more of me not really paying attention when she was talking. looking at another girl that walked by. no please, or thank you's to anyone helping us when we went out to eat or went to the movies (my picks). we generally did what i wanted to. the chemistry between us was almost instantly better. until i found out that her life ambition was to be a female body builder and be a triathlete. i mean really, fuck that.

This is exactly what I was talking about, lol!

Indian Summer

Nice guys finish first...after college. The bitchy women gotta whore around with the assholes first...then when they're left all alone and vulnerable, they get with the nice guy they should have been with all along.