I used to eat a banana every day for the potassium (and because it gave me enough energy to get through a late-day work out), and my trainer freaked out and told me that I would never lose a pound if I ate bananas. I've since learned he was overreacting as trainers often do, but I've been terrified of bananas ever since. I'll only eat them after a race, and possibly before a soccer game.
but as far as the fruit thing goes, I'm serious, look it up. fruit is good for you, but you can get way more fiber with less sugar from vegetables and whole grains. anything good you can get from a fruit, you can get better from a vegetable.
He probably just meant that bananas are one of the most fattening fruit's of all, along with Avacado. It doesn't mean it's ACTUALLY fattening. Certainly no more than peanuts, apparently. (I'm not sure about other types of nuts).
Could you not make a nice salad with maybe raw bean sprouts, celery, and... whatever? I had this the other day and it was really nice. I can't remember what else was in it though.
Maybe noodles? They're basicly just made of water.
Instead of rice cakes Quaker makes a multi grain mini. They are yummy and you can eat a bunch of them.
I'm all about baby carrots.
Or....fat free cottage cheese with cinnamon and sweetener of your choice.
Nuts are healthy. But they are fattening.
And bottom line...It really IS... Calories IN vs calories out.
As my dad always said. You never see a fat prisoner of war. If you are burning 800 calories a day (at the gym alone) and consuming 1000 YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT. End of story.
When I really want/have to lose weight I try to keep myself as close to calorie neutral as possible. Might not be the best way to do things. But it's science.VERY SIMPLE SCIENCE.
that's not true in the LEAST. it is ESSENTIAL for healthy eating habits to eat something efficient every 4-5 hours, or else 1) you get overly hungry and pig out when you do get to eat and to compound that 2) your body thinks it needs to store up for long periods so your metabolism slows way down and you gain fat. No one has gone by the "no snacking between meals" axiom for decades.
I know a guy who eats *once* a day. He is the fattest person I know.
If you eat every 4-5 hours, it's called a MEAL. You don't need to snack in between them.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
GTD, I honestly don't think you'll lose a pound or will be that healthy if you keep following the advice you are given. For someone who lives where supposedly the best doctors of the country are, you sure have met your string of shitty doctors/trainers/psychologists.
... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
You should eat (approx) 5 - 6 400 calorie (balanced meals) every 3 hours if you want to see the quickest results. That's 5 meals a day for women 6 meals a day for men. Around 4 hours if no protein goes in, your body will start to burn muscle tissue looking for aminos, lose muscle gain fat...
Eat this many times a day, and you will not need to snack on anything. This is what all the leanest people in the world do.
"burn the fat feed the muscle" by Tom Venuto. Read it... twice. That's how it is done.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
This too much fruit thing is bullshit.
Total Bullshit.
Evry year during the holidays I eat bad for obvious reasons, but after I get back on my healthy eat habits.
five days a week for breakfast I have protein shake with a whole banana, whole orange, 5 strawberries and a handful of blueberries mixed with protein. For lunch have a huge salad mixed with all healthy stuff, oil and Vin.
As a snack I use my juicer to make a drink out of Carrots, Celery, Cuks, and other stuff.
Point is that even in the summer I eat a lot of fruit (alot of Bananas) and i stay pretty fit.
I don't buy that to manyfruits shit. Yea they have a lot of sugar but its different. EAT HEALHY YOU WILL BE HEATHY PERIOD.
Pretend you are a cave man. Ever see one thats fat? LOL
Oh I eat plenty of CHicken and other meats. I eat plenty of assorted nuts b/c I own a nut store.
BTW...GTD you said you eat nuts at work. What kind? Reason I ask is that most nuts you buy from say PLanters are cooked in oil. Same say you cook french fries. FYI Healthy nuts are raw ones
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
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As a snack I use my juicer to make a drink out of Carrots, Celery, Cuks, and other stuff.
You're taking out all the good stuff. All that fiber is whats going to give you the best thermic effect by eating, also makes you fuller on less cals, and keeps the metabolism accelerated. If you're in the single digit bodyfat range with this method congrats on the genetic gifting, and by all means juice away.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
You're taking out all the good stuff. All that fiber is whats going to give you the best thermic effect by eating, also makes you fuller on less cals, and keeps the metabolism accelerated. If you're in the single digit bodyfat range with this method congrats on the genetic gifting, and by all means juice away.
I freeze the rest for soups.
I am in no way the low body fat type. Even in my best shape I have a little belly. Its just how I am built.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Fruits aren't fattening per se, but they are not good to take in quantity, or much at all when trying to dramatically shed fat. It slows down the process a bit.
To exclude them longterm from the diet is a bad idea for sure though.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Low-fat triscuits are good too. With some peanut butter on them.
any trans fats in those things?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
You're taking out all the good stuff. All that fiber is whats going to give you the best thermic effect by eating, also makes you fuller on less cals, and keeps the metabolism accelerated. If you're in the single digit bodyfat range with this method congrats on the genetic gifting, and by all means juice away.
Absolutely true. I recently took out almost all liquid calories from my diet, and it makes a difference in how much I can eat and still burn fat. The thermic effect is definitely noticeable and awesome. The only times I get liquid calories now are surrounding my workouts.
Fruits aren't fattening per se, but they are not good to take in quantity, or much at all when trying to dramatically shed fat. It slows down the process a bit.
To exclude them longterm from the diet is a bad idea for sure though.
Well shit man.....everyone says different things. You seem to know your shit so give me some advice.
I work out four to five days a week.
I eat fruit and veggies everyday.
What should I include or deny??????
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
I haven't tried that yet. I don't think Mozzarella is too high in fat. I eat them sometimes with cheddar cheese. I know that's not too good. I love cheese though.
I haven't tried that yet. I don't think Mozzarella is too high in fat. I eat them sometimes with cheddar cheese. I know that's not too good. I love cheese though.
Just finished up some cheese on toast, 3 slices made with Irish Carberry Chedder.:)
Yummy.:)
Well shit man.....everyone says different things. You seem to know your shit so give me some advice.
I work out four to five days a week.
I eat fruit and veggies everyday.
What should I include or deny??????
No one can really answer that except you, because everyone will react differently to eating fruit. Are you losing fat by eating what you're eating now? If so, don't change a thing (provided the other stuff you're eating isn't crap). Just limit the fruit (and whatever else) as you see fit based on your results, not on science.
In general though, I'd say get more veggies than fruit for sure.
I haven't tried that yet. I don't think Mozzarella is too high in fat. I eat them sometimes with cheddar cheese. I know that's not too good. I love cheese though.
I don't know about "Oh...Polly-O is bad cheese" or anything.
Some people on this board are waaaay to radical with their dietary restrictions for me...however...
Polly-o part skim mozzarella on a regular triscuit is like heaven on earth.
i once read a magazine article that global warming was a myth... i also read another one that said it was definitely happening... its called opinion.
i read one of your threads looking for advice on whether you should play the guitar again after a 10 year break... people gave advice and you shot them down on that thread as well...
you've asked for advice from people on a healthy snack and yet you've read scientific magazines proclaiming 1 piece of fruit per day is enough and that fruit should only be a locally available fruit, etc etc etc.
dont ask for advice if the advice received is always going to be routinely debunked by you every time.
surely that scientific magazine gave an indication of what was an OK snack for you. or ask a qualified nutritionist... instead of asking us folks here on the forum.. after all, we appear to be very unhelpful :(
all excellent points....however, GTD has posted like this for YEARS. this is what she does here. perhaps it's a game for her? think up topics to ask *advice* for, and be able to shoot down each ad every one? i'd imagine it makes the workday pass more quickly.
truly, not having a go at you GTD, but you have to admit, if you look at 95% of the threads you start requesting advice, observe them objectively...you'd recognize the pattern. i mean, that's how so many of us *recognize* you time and again. it's kinda fun in a bizarre, twisted, message pit way.....
that said, i too will agree with FRUIT...and yes, LOTS of it! i eat a ton of fruit a day! i also eat a large variety. the more 'color' in your diet, the better. so on any given day....i'll eat a few clementines, a banana....and at least a cup of mixed berries - strawberries, blueberries, blackberries and raspberries. also, i definitely eat a serving of nuts, usually wasabi almonds - YUM......and a single serving of string cheese. all very portable, portion-controlled and HEALTHY snacks. helps me maintain my weight very well, good nutrition and my skin looks fantastic too. i'd also suggest a good, healthy cereal...such as kashi go lean.....eat it dry....protein bars, even granola bars if you check labels carefully, etc. there are LOTs of excellent snack options. i actually eat the berries/cheese/nuts as my lunch most days.
I agree with D2D ^
Berries are such a great snack and sooooo tasty! When I go to work at the bar on Friday and Saturday nights, I'll take an 18 oz. package of blueberries and snack guilt-free all night while my coworkers eat Dorito's and slim jims. I like to snack on nuts if there's only a tiny bit in front of me. I have trouble with self-control, so I seriously can't have more than 1 or 2 tbsp. of nuts around or I'll eat the whole thing.
I'm not a "fruity" person, I prefer veggies over fruit as a snack.
I like to snack on green/red/yellow peppers. Cut them into slices and throw them in a ziploc bag.
Also:
English cucumbers (more flavor)
radishes
wheat crackers with sliced avocado (little salt/pepper)
sugar snap peas (yes, I know "sugar")...it is still green and healthier than chips
I like turkey jerky but the only downfall is high sodium so I take a couple pieces to curb hunger.
There are a lot of very good ideas being given in this thread - and I know it's already been said about GTD shooting each and everyone of them down - but as she has already mentioned her health issues are so very very complicated that none of our layperson's advice can possibly incorporate all of her various issues.
it is easy to say "eat fresh fruit and veggies daily" and "snack on low/non fat foods" but - reality-wise, it seems extremely unlikely that if taking the advice of her professionals and exercising at the rate she claims she is still overweight, with health issues.
I am not trying to attack you GTD - I am just suggesting that you look objectively at what you do/eat through the day and differentiate between what you "aught" to do/eat, and what you REALLY do/eat.
I notice that in your exercise threads, you often claim to walk/run each day - yet you acknowledge that you wont work out in "bad weather"
Look, ordinarily I would say if you feel good - it doesn't matter what you LOOK like..but you seem unhappy about just about everything.
being obsessive, and stressed over all of the minutia of the day can lead to acne, heart issues, breathing issues, weight gain, insomnia, and a myriad of other health issues.
I would like to tell you that relaxation is the key - but I am sure you already "DO ALL YOU CAN TO RELAX" or some such statement...sigh, I hope that most of your posts are contrary-insidious fun and not based in a reality.
well - good luck with finding snacks that fit your criteria...having an eating disorder is not fun (I am not saying you have one, GTD - I am actually just sharing my own experiences: therefore I don't really need you to comment as if this is advice or an observation regarding you on the next part of this posting) - it messes with all stages of your self esteem and your social awareness. My metabolic rate is shot to pieces, and it has taken me years to deal with my own body's rhythm - I still flounder and slide back into restricting foods...I understand your statements about eating very little and gaining weight - it is an experience I have had, however I was so severely malnourished prior to the weight gain, that I lost much of my hair and my teeth became quite loose.
IF YOU WANT A PLATE OF MY BEEF SWELLINGTON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE COVERCHARGE.
ok, but she always posts about eating healthy and gaining weight... nuts are certainly healthy but not that great for weight control, especially if eaten by the handful.
actually...ok, only ONE study, but it was considered rather *significant*...showed that eating one serving of nuts per day actually IS good for weight control. had two groups eat the EXACT same calories, same amount of exercise....excpt one group ate say 180 additional calories per day in the form of one serving of nuts per day. the group that ate MORE calories thru nuts actually lost more weight than the group without.
food for thought.
eating A handful = good. eating handFULLS....not too good.
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He probably just meant that bananas are one of the most fattening fruit's of all, along with Avacado. It doesn't mean it's ACTUALLY fattening. Certainly no more than peanuts, apparently. (I'm not sure about other types of nuts).
Could you not make a nice salad with maybe raw bean sprouts, celery, and... whatever? I had this the other day and it was really nice. I can't remember what else was in it though.
Maybe noodles? They're basicly just made of water.
I'm all about baby carrots.
Or....fat free cottage cheese with cinnamon and sweetener of your choice.
Nuts are healthy. But they are fattening.
And bottom line...It really IS... Calories IN vs calories out.
As my dad always said. You never see a fat prisoner of war. If you are burning 800 calories a day (at the gym alone) and consuming 1000 YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT. End of story.
When I really want/have to lose weight I try to keep myself as close to calorie neutral as possible. Might not be the best way to do things. But it's science.VERY SIMPLE SCIENCE.
Remember the POW?
If you eat every 4-5 hours, it's called a MEAL. You don't need to snack in between them.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Eat this many times a day, and you will not need to snack on anything. This is what all the leanest people in the world do.
"burn the fat feed the muscle" by Tom Venuto. Read it... twice. That's how it is done.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Total Bullshit.
Evry year during the holidays I eat bad for obvious reasons, but after I get back on my healthy eat habits.
five days a week for breakfast I have protein shake with a whole banana, whole orange, 5 strawberries and a handful of blueberries mixed with protein. For lunch have a huge salad mixed with all healthy stuff, oil and Vin.
As a snack I use my juicer to make a drink out of Carrots, Celery, Cuks, and other stuff.
Point is that even in the summer I eat a lot of fruit (alot of Bananas) and i stay pretty fit.
I don't buy that to manyfruits shit. Yea they have a lot of sugar but its different. EAT HEALHY YOU WILL BE HEATHY PERIOD.
Pretend you are a cave man. Ever see one thats fat? LOL
Oh I eat plenty of CHicken and other meats. I eat plenty of assorted nuts b/c I own a nut store.
BTW...GTD you said you eat nuts at work. What kind? Reason I ask is that most nuts you buy from say PLanters are cooked in oil. Same say you cook french fries. FYI Healthy nuts are raw ones
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
You're taking out all the good stuff. All that fiber is whats going to give you the best thermic effect by eating, also makes you fuller on less cals, and keeps the metabolism accelerated. If you're in the single digit bodyfat range with this method congrats on the genetic gifting, and by all means juice away.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa14.htm
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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I freeze the rest for soups.
I am in no way the low body fat type. Even in my best shape I have a little belly. Its just how I am built.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
I don't understand.
Laman's terms for me please.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Fruits aren't fattening per se, but they are not good to take in quantity, or much at all when trying to dramatically shed fat. It slows down the process a bit.
To exclude them longterm from the diet is a bad idea for sure though.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
any trans fats in those things?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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Well shit man.....everyone says different things. You seem to know your shit so give me some advice.
I work out four to five days a week.
I eat fruit and veggies everyday.
What should I include or deny??????
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Mmmmmmmmm... Triscuits. YUM!
Triscuits with part skim mozzarella cheese. That is so yummy. Maybe not so dietetic or anything. But GOOD!!
Just finished up some cheese on toast, 3 slices made with Irish Carberry Chedder.:)
Yummy.:)
In general though, I'd say get more veggies than fruit for sure.
I don't know about "Oh...Polly-O is bad cheese" or anything.
Some people on this board are waaaay to radical with their dietary restrictions for me...however...
Polly-o part skim mozzarella on a regular triscuit is like heaven on earth.
I enjoyed my chocolate bunny without any guilt
all excellent points....however, GTD has posted like this for YEARS. this is what she does here. perhaps it's a game for her? think up topics to ask *advice* for, and be able to shoot down each ad every one? i'd imagine it makes the workday pass more quickly.
truly, not having a go at you GTD, but you have to admit, if you look at 95% of the threads you start requesting advice, observe them objectively...you'd recognize the pattern. i mean, that's how so many of us *recognize* you time and again.
that said, i too will agree with FRUIT...and yes, LOTS of it! i eat a ton of fruit a day! i also eat a large variety. the more 'color' in your diet, the better. so on any given day....i'll eat a few clementines, a banana....and at least a cup of mixed berries - strawberries, blueberries, blackberries and raspberries. also, i definitely eat a serving of nuts, usually wasabi almonds - YUM......and a single serving of string cheese. all very portable, portion-controlled and HEALTHY snacks. helps me maintain my weight very well, good nutrition and my skin looks fantastic too. i'd also suggest a good, healthy cereal...such as kashi go lean.....eat it dry....protein bars, even granola bars if you check labels carefully, etc. there are LOTs of excellent snack options. i actually eat the berries/cheese/nuts as my lunch most days.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Berries are such a great snack and sooooo tasty! When I go to work at the bar on Friday and Saturday nights, I'll take an 18 oz. package of blueberries and snack guilt-free all night while my coworkers eat Dorito's and slim jims. I like to snack on nuts if there's only a tiny bit in front of me. I have trouble with self-control, so I seriously can't have more than 1 or 2 tbsp. of nuts around or I'll eat the whole thing.
I like to snack on green/red/yellow peppers. Cut them into slices and throw them in a ziploc bag.
Also:
English cucumbers (more flavor)
radishes
wheat crackers with sliced avocado (little salt/pepper)
sugar snap peas (yes, I know "sugar")...it is still green and healthier than chips
I like turkey jerky but the only downfall is high sodium so I take a couple pieces to curb hunger.
it is easy to say "eat fresh fruit and veggies daily" and "snack on low/non fat foods" but - reality-wise, it seems extremely unlikely that if taking the advice of her professionals and exercising at the rate she claims she is still overweight, with health issues.
I am not trying to attack you GTD - I am just suggesting that you look objectively at what you do/eat through the day and differentiate between what you "aught" to do/eat, and what you REALLY do/eat.
I notice that in your exercise threads, you often claim to walk/run each day - yet you acknowledge that you wont work out in "bad weather"
Look, ordinarily I would say if you feel good - it doesn't matter what you LOOK like..but you seem unhappy about just about everything.
being obsessive, and stressed over all of the minutia of the day can lead to acne, heart issues, breathing issues, weight gain, insomnia, and a myriad of other health issues.
I would like to tell you that relaxation is the key - but I am sure you already "DO ALL YOU CAN TO RELAX" or some such statement...sigh, I hope that most of your posts are contrary-insidious fun and not based in a reality.
well - good luck with finding snacks that fit your criteria...having an eating disorder is not fun (I am not saying you have one, GTD - I am actually just sharing my own experiences: therefore I don't really need you to comment as if this is advice or an observation regarding you on the next part of this posting) - it messes with all stages of your self esteem and your social awareness. My metabolic rate is shot to pieces, and it has taken me years to deal with my own body's rhythm - I still flounder and slide back into restricting foods...I understand your statements about eating very little and gaining weight - it is an experience I have had, however I was so severely malnourished prior to the weight gain, that I lost much of my hair and my teeth became quite loose.
actually...ok, only ONE study, but it was considered rather *significant*...showed that eating one serving of nuts per day actually IS good for weight control. had two groups eat the EXACT same calories, same amount of exercise....excpt one group ate say 180 additional calories per day in the form of one serving of nuts per day. the group that ate MORE calories thru nuts actually lost more weight than the group without.
food for thought.
eating A handful = good. eating handFULLS....not too good.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow