Counting calories and macro-nutrient ratios absolutely works. Most people don't do it, which is why most people fail when trying to lose fat and/or stay fit. Many people don't have to because they're meso or ectomorphs, but not everyone is so lucky.
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Ok, I've never really tried dieting or anything like that... but the only time I find I lose weight is by keeping myself busy. Usually when I'm not trying but my lifestyle is just pretty quick
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Counting calories and macro-nutrient ratios absolutely works. Most people don't do it, which is why most people fail when trying to lose fat and/or stay fit. Many people don't have to because they're meso or ectomorphs, but not everyone is so lucky.
absolutely, a food diary IS an excellent tool! the one and only time i ever followed a traditional diet, i kept a food diary. i didn't keep track of calories, but carbs...but more importantyl, just keeping track of the food you consume, how much, what exactly, etc...is truly helpful/illuminating. and it worked wonderfully well! if only i didn't go back to my wicked ways.....:p
anyhoo, i don't do the diary thing anymore...but it DID, and still does, influence me, in that i am sooo much more aware of what and how much i eat, much more mindful of what i intake. sure some days, or just some meals...i say fuck it ....but more often than not it helps me stay focused on eating healthfully. nowadays, i record my weight and gain/loss fluctuations daily, and once a week tally em up. it's enought to keep me focused on my eating/general health...and my goals. the food diary eventually just got to be too 'much' but recording my weight has been good, perhaps not as disciplined, but i think more livable long-term. and yea, down 5.5 pounds thus far this month.
Counting calories and macro-nutrient ratios absolutely works. Most people don't do it, which is why most people fail when trying to lose fat and/or stay fit. Many people don't have to because they're meso or ectomorphs, but not everyone is so lucky.
I don't count calories. This is a "food anthropologist" log. It is more about behavior and hunger rather than losing weight, etc. The nutritionist I went to had me fill them out. Basically you log the time, what you ate, what you were doing while you ate it, and why you ate it. Then the most important part is that you rate your hunger on a scale of 0 to 10 before and after each eating. 0 is like you are so hungry you will die. 10 is so full you will explode and die. The goal is to be around 5, which is neutral. So before you eat you should be a 3-4 and after you should be a 6-7. And if it's been 4 hours and you haven't eaten you should. The "doing" part is important to make sure you are eating mindfully- i.e. not watching TV or working but rather concentrating on eating.
wow... honestly I can't imagine how I could lose weight unless it was somehow fun. I'm completely disorganised so to have to note all that stuff, I wouldn't even last a day.
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wow... honestly I can't imagine how I could lose weight unless it was somehow fun. I'm completely disorganised so to have to note all that stuff, I wouldn't even last a day.
actually, I think it is kinda fun. but I'm a dork.
I don't count calories. This is a "food anthropologist" log. It is more about behavior and hunger rather than losing weight, etc. The nutritionist I went to had me fill them out. Basically you log the time, what you ate, what you were doing while you ate it, and why you ate it. Then the most important part is that you rate your hunger on a scale of 0 to 10 before and after each eating. 0 is like you are so hungry you will die. 10 is so full you will explode and die. The goal is to be around 5, which is neutral. So before you eat you should be a 3-4 and after you should be a 6-7. And if it's been 4 hours and you haven't eaten you should. The "doing" part is important to make sure you are eating mindfully- i.e. not watching TV or working but rather concentrating on eating.
This is very good and specific advice, thank you (and your nutritionist)
... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
I don't count calories. This is a "food anthropologist" log. It is more about behavior and hunger rather than losing weight, etc. The nutritionist I went to had me fill them out. Basically you log the time, what you ate, what you were doing while you ate it, and why you ate it. Then the most important part is that you rate your hunger on a scale of 0 to 10 before and after each eating. 0 is like you are so hungry you will die. 10 is so full you will explode and die. The goal is to be around 5, which is neutral. So before you eat you should be a 3-4 and after you should be a 6-7. And if it's been 4 hours and you haven't eaten you should. The "doing" part is important to make sure you are eating mindfully- i.e. not watching TV or working but rather concentrating on eating.
Yea that is also very helpful I'm sure. Everyone will find something different to work for them. For me, I basically eat the same set of meals for each type of day I go through (lifting day, non-lifting day, and refeed day). It's extremely mechanical, but in my case, it works. Of course, I have an occasional day where I go out and eat different stuff, but that's not planned or anything.
Yea that is also very helpful I'm sure. Everyone will find something different to work for them. For me, I basically eat the same set of meals for each type of day I go through (lifting day, non-lifting day, and refeed day). It's extremely mechanical, but in my case, it works. Of course, I have an occasional day where I go out and eat different stuff, but that's not planned or anything.
right it's like you eat a certain way unless there's some reason not to. I've always been like that. problem was that I got a bit away from it in school- no schedule, late nights working, and a boyfriend who was used to always eating out.
right it's like you eat a certain way unless there's some reason not to. I've always been like that. problem was that I got a bit away from it in school- no schedule, late nights working, and a boyfriend who was used to always eating out.
Yea boyfriends ruin everything...which is why I've never had one.
actually, I think it is kinda fun. but I'm a dork.
no that's cool... it's good that you think it's fun. Like I said I'm completely disorganised so anything that involves being organised just really isn't enjoyable for me so I've different ways of going about things... but definitely if it's fun for you that makes it all the better
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I didn't read this whole thread, but I think you really really need some help. Counseling, psychiatry, something. I'm going on my second semester in Psych and you def. need some help. It's not a bad thing, but get it and get it now.
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I didn't read this whole thread, but I think you really really need some help. Counseling, psychiatry, something. I'm going on my second semester in Psych and you def. need some help. It's not a bad thing, but get it and get it now.
:eek:
Thats a little harsh. A lot of women have body issues. GTD, is very smart, I think she was venting to us, sometimes this can be an outlet..
I didn't read this whole thread, but I think you really really need some help. Counseling, psychiatry, something. I'm going on my second semester in Psych and you def. need some help. It's not a bad thing, but get it and get it now.
eh, she's taking undergrad psychology classes, every college kid who takes psych 101 thinks everyone should get "help."
but you've admitted it yourself too. You have an excuse ready for every suggestion thrown at you. You've said there are no tailors in Boston and that you'd have to go to Thailand to get clothes made? :eek: We've all seen your pictures and you're as pretty as anybody else here so there really is no need for the low self esteem
I'm not trying to be harsh here but from all your threads you know yourself that it runs deeper than simply not being able to find the right jeans.
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eh, she's taking undergrad psychology classes, every college kid who takes psych 101 thinks everyone should get "help."
eh, I've known for a long time that you have needed help. Sure, come and vent here to a certain point, but there has got to be a time where a message board just isn't enough for you to get the help you need. My taking psych classes just opens my eyes to a LOT of different things.
Also, last time I checked, I'm not a "kid". Unless 28 is the new 18.
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eh, I've known for a long time that you have needed help.
So is that the recommended psychiatric response then?
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Helen, I think YOU need help for your addiction to debating!
And why do you say that then?
Just thought it was an odd thing to say for somebody who is into psychiatry.
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Helen You've said there are no tailors in Boston and that you'd have to go to Thailand to get clothes made? :eek:
there are tailors, they just don't make clothes from scratch. the day we talked about this I put a question about it up on the boston yelp board and I got 5 responses: vietnam, thailand, vietnam, vietnam, vietnam.
The "poor me" syndrome really does get old after a while. People have to learn to help themselves.
I agree. I mean, I can certainly sympathize with GTD... we all have certain issues with ourselves and go through periods where the self-esteem might not be sky-high. But time and time again, people here have tried to help and offer suggestions only to be met with excuses and reasons why "that" won't work...
If you want to rant, fine. Open up a Word document and pour it out. But people here have offered up some great suggestions and they get continually dismissed. I'd also think about getting some help, even if it's just to talk to someone (insurance will more than likely cover it, so no $$$$$ excuses ) about this stuff... it's not healthy.
I don't know you and I've never seen a picture. But I can't for one second believe that you're the Quasimodo that you paint yourself to be. But guess what? If that's what you think of yourself, it's the way people are going to see you.
Yes. Get help and get it now. You can change a screen name a million times, it doesn't cover up who the person is.
The "poor me" syndrome really does get old after a while. People have to learn to help themselves.
dude, that is just unnecessary. I am the LEAST "poor me" person I have ever met. I take complete responsibility for everything I do right or wrong in my life. I am CONSTANTLY forcing myself to improve in every area of life. I would really tell you off right now if it were allowed. I love how you are high and mighty enough to judge me negatively for no reason at all. What have I said in this thread that harms you or anyone else? (and therefore would justify you bashing my character as you have).
(and I really hate how on this board people can sit there and bash someone's character just because for whatever reason they don't like you and yet you can't say anything in rebuttal without getting banned. I think someone should ban purplechick- isn't what she just said to me akin to "name calling"?)
I am CONSTANTLY forcing myself to improve in every area of life.
That might be part of the problem right there. Everything was constantly focused on getting through school with a 4.0... then it was getting in shape... then it was getting a job... then it was finding a boyfriend... then it was getting back in shape... then it's having a meltdown because you don't want to go out with friends because someone might see you and hating yourself because of it... it seems that it all stems from some crazy belief that you're not good enough.
That's where talking to a professional might come in. I'm not saying this to be mean or pile on, but there's got to be something more deep-rooted than "oh, i'm a few pounds overweight". Hell, if that's it, join the fucking club. I've been a charter member of that one for 15 years.
That might be part of the problem right there. Everything was constantly focused on getting through school with a 4.0... then it was getting in shape... then it was getting a job... then it was finding a boyfriend... then it was getting back in shape... then it's having a meltdown because you don't want to go out with friends because someone might see you and hating yourself because of it... it seems that it all stems from some crazy belief that you're not good enough.
That's where talking to a professional might come in. I'm not saying this to be mean or pile on, but there's got to be something more deep-rooted than "oh, i'm a few pounds overweight". Hell, if that's it, join the fucking club. I've been a charter member of that one for 15 years.
This is true GTD... I'm FAR from having a go at you... I like you! BUT your low self esteem is unwarranted and unnecessary. The 'issues' you talk about can't be the real issues at all... you need to learn to have a sunnier outlook on life and just enjoy it... cos before you know it, it's over :(
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Ok, I've never really tried dieting or anything like that... but the only time I find I lose weight is by keeping myself busy. Usually when I'm not trying but my lifestyle is just pretty quick
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
absolutely, a food diary IS an excellent tool! the one and only time i ever followed a traditional diet, i kept a food diary. i didn't keep track of calories, but carbs...but more importantyl, just keeping track of the food you consume, how much, what exactly, etc...is truly helpful/illuminating. and it worked wonderfully well! if only i didn't go back to my wicked ways.....:p
anyhoo, i don't do the diary thing anymore...but it DID, and still does, influence me, in that i am sooo much more aware of what and how much i eat, much more mindful of what i intake. sure some days, or just some meals...i say fuck it
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I don't count calories. This is a "food anthropologist" log. It is more about behavior and hunger rather than losing weight, etc. The nutritionist I went to had me fill them out. Basically you log the time, what you ate, what you were doing while you ate it, and why you ate it. Then the most important part is that you rate your hunger on a scale of 0 to 10 before and after each eating. 0 is like you are so hungry you will die. 10 is so full you will explode and die. The goal is to be around 5, which is neutral. So before you eat you should be a 3-4 and after you should be a 6-7. And if it's been 4 hours and you haven't eaten you should. The "doing" part is important to make sure you are eating mindfully- i.e. not watching TV or working but rather concentrating on eating.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
actually, I think it is kinda fun. but I'm a dork.
This is very good and specific advice, thank you (and your nutritionist)
right it's like you eat a certain way unless there's some reason not to. I've always been like that. problem was that I got a bit away from it in school- no schedule, late nights working, and a boyfriend who was used to always eating out.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
"do gay midgets come out of the cupboard"
~CreedDisease~
10/27/06
:eek:
Thats a little harsh. A lot of women have body issues. GTD, is very smart, I think she was venting to us, sometimes this can be an outlet..
wow, thats a pretty gutsy move saying that...
eh, she's taking undergrad psychology classes, every college kid who takes psych 101 thinks everyone should get "help."
I'm not trying to be harsh here but from all your threads you know yourself that it runs deeper than simply not being able to find the right jeans.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
eh, I've known for a long time that you have needed help. Sure, come and vent here to a certain point, but there has got to be a time where a message board just isn't enough for you to get the help you need. My taking psych classes just opens my eyes to a LOT of different things.
Also, last time I checked, I'm not a "kid". Unless 28 is the new 18.
"do gay midgets come out of the cupboard"
~CreedDisease~
10/27/06
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Just thought it was an odd thing to say for somebody who is into psychiatry.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
there are tailors, they just don't make clothes from scratch. the day we talked about this I put a question about it up on the boston yelp board and I got 5 responses: vietnam, thailand, vietnam, vietnam, vietnam.
Yes. Get help and get it now. You can change a screen name a million times, it doesn't cover up who the person is.
The "poor me" syndrome really does get old after a while. People have to learn to help themselves.
"do gay midgets come out of the cupboard"
~CreedDisease~
10/27/06
I agree. I mean, I can certainly sympathize with GTD... we all have certain issues with ourselves and go through periods where the self-esteem might not be sky-high. But time and time again, people here have tried to help and offer suggestions only to be met with excuses and reasons why "that" won't work...
If you want to rant, fine. Open up a Word document and pour it out. But people here have offered up some great suggestions and they get continually dismissed. I'd also think about getting some help, even if it's just to talk to someone (insurance will more than likely cover it, so no $$$$$ excuses
I don't know you and I've never seen a picture. But I can't for one second believe that you're the Quasimodo that you paint yourself to be. But guess what? If that's what you think of yourself, it's the way people are going to see you.
dude, that is just unnecessary. I am the LEAST "poor me" person I have ever met. I take complete responsibility for everything I do right or wrong in my life. I am CONSTANTLY forcing myself to improve in every area of life. I would really tell you off right now if it were allowed. I love how you are high and mighty enough to judge me negatively for no reason at all. What have I said in this thread that harms you or anyone else? (and therefore would justify you bashing my character as you have).
(and I really hate how on this board people can sit there and bash someone's character just because for whatever reason they don't like you and yet you can't say anything in rebuttal without getting banned. I think someone should ban purplechick- isn't what she just said to me akin to "name calling"?)
That might be part of the problem right there. Everything was constantly focused on getting through school with a 4.0... then it was getting in shape... then it was getting a job... then it was finding a boyfriend... then it was getting back in shape... then it's having a meltdown because you don't want to go out with friends because someone might see you and hating yourself because of it... it seems that it all stems from some crazy belief that you're not good enough.
That's where talking to a professional might come in. I'm not saying this to be mean or pile on, but there's got to be something more deep-rooted than "oh, i'm a few pounds overweight". Hell, if that's it, join the fucking club. I've been a charter member of that one for 15 years.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you