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seriously...yup, you have a harsh opinion on women but 90% of the time, I agree with you. women are insane most of the time. I think both sexes play their share of games and it's because of their own hang-ups. hell, I was seeing someone a year ago who was proffessing love to me before he went to court for his divorce and is now engaged to a girl he started seeing before he had the sack to break up with me. We've all done weak things, it's just a matter of seeing it for yourself, admitting it and learning from it. shit, I still am.
i have a harsh opinion of humans in general. i just have more experience with the women becos i dont date guys
i have a harsh opinion of humans in general. i just have more experience with the women becos i dont date guys
see? there you go....humans just suck sometimes....it's why I like hanging with horses and my dogs.
and as for dating guys? see above...it's why I like hanging with horses and my dogs.
believe it or not, we don't "need" anything. that is only the spoiled brat in us trying to fill some temporary solution to an emptyness that does not exist.
I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
see? there you go....humans just suck sometimes....it's why I like hanging with horses and my dogs.
and as for dating guys? see above...it's why I like hanging with horses and my dogs.
this thread has gotten me sex on the brain... i read that as "i like banging with..." and was like "this thread just took a very unexpected turn!"
but yeah, i dont envy women either. we're no picnic to deal with either i'm sure. it's amazing anyone stays together at all. of course, statistically the vast majority don't.
i took issue with the fact that you attributed things to me that i did not say. i would be curious to hear your reasons for why my cynicism is unfounded. as to the generalization... there were no generalizations in my post. i only said what i felt was happening in this particular situation based on the facts he presented interpreted in the light of my experiences and perceptions. i never said anything about anyone else, nor did i claim my interpretation was the only correct one. i would think by now that people would automatically read the "in my opinion" disclaimer they always want me to include in my posts.
Did I? Or did you just perceive it that way based on your opinions of me?
If we're gonna get into automatic disclaimers then I'd like one thanks. WHENEVER I speak to you, I am not necessarily attacking you personally I am taking issue with what you say and the endless hang up that you can't seem to get past when it comes to women and a few other things but I digress. The language and terminology you use. Not you personally. If I use capital letters, I am not necessarily yelling at you, I am most likely just stressing a point (if you'd prefer I use bold I'll try to remember that for the future)
If you want to spend your life holding on to your cynicism because it works for you that's your decision, I personally find it weak minded and too easy but it's your life.
this thread has gotten me sex on the brain... i read that as "i like banging with..." and was like "this thread just took a very unexpected turn!"
but yeah, i dont envy women either. we're no picnic to deal with either i'm sure. it's amazing anyone stays together at all. of course, statistically the vast majority don't.
howl! I won't even type what I had originally had after "as for dating guys".
hence, I'm divorced and happily independent.
believe it or not, we don't "need" anything. that is only the spoiled brat in us trying to fill some temporary solution to an emptyness that does not exist.
I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
that is exactly my point. we agree on this. yet in your first post you said i was wrong. so who's the one getting personal? it's not that what i say is wrong, it's that you don't like the way i say it becos of your unfounded assumptions about me and my attitudes towards women.
I said you were wrong for thinking that you know what this girl is doing or thinking. Wrong for assuming what her motivations are. None of us know that. I'd venture to say she probably isn't even aware of them all herself.
You're right. I don't like the way you say it because it's usually heavily biased against women. There's no disclaimer. Women are bad. You make that point over and over. I find it tiresome. It would be like me continually bagging men because of my negative experiences and that's pathetic because NOT all men are arseholes.
Ok, so I've been seeing this girl for probably a month now. I met her out at the bar one night, but come to find out I went to college with her. I never knew her in college, but she recognized me. Anyways, we really hit it off and got really drunk. Long story short she gave me her phone number and we had long phone conversations like 3 times. After one of them she texted me and said she had a boyfriend, so I was like what the fuck. Anyways, she said she still wanted to hang out and get a drink the next night. We go out the next night and get totally blitzed of jager and what not, and had a great time. We go back to my place and have sex. Anyways, we started hanging out regularly, but we only had sex when she's drunk because she felt guilty. Her boyfriend of 2 years was a piece of shit and rarely called her treating her like shit. So, finally she decides to break up with him and we still hung out for a while. Then she just stoped calling me for like 2 weeks, so I sent her a long message on myspace explaining that it really bothers me. She apologized and has been better since. We started hanging out again (and sleeping together), but last night we went to the bar and we both got really drunk. She started crying and told me she's not over it yet. I just don't know what the fuck to do, because I really like this girl. I know she really likes me too, but is just confused.
P.S. I can't believe I just posted this on a message board.
Ok, this is pretty simple really. If she can cheat on her boyfriend, she can cheat on you. Being drunk is no excuse. Nor is him treating her like shit. She chooses that for herself. If a man treats a woman like crap, and she doesn't get herself immediately out of the situation, then she is allowing herself to be treated that way. Same can be said for men.
I hate when when guys/girls bitch and moan about how bad men/woman are and that they always get shafted and why can't anyone be honest, decent, honourable etc. Because we ask for it. We wonder how it is we always seem to end up with the same kinda person and get crapped on by them, it's because we choose it. If you choose this girl, knowing full well she doesn't have to decency or self respect enough to get out of a bad relationship, and just cheats on him instead and justifies it with "he's an arsehole anyway"........ well then, you are asking to be treated with the same lack of consideration. You're kinda lucky that you get such blatant and obvious warning signs about the kind of girl she is. Take advantage of it.
I said you were wrong for thinking that you know what this girl is doing or thinking. Wrong for assuming what her motivations are. None of us know that. I'd venture to say she probably isn't even aware of them all herself.
here we are again. show me where i claim to KNOW what she is goind or thinking. in fact, before you did here, *I* said i doubted she was entirely conscious of her motives or wants in the situation.
You're right. I don't like the way you say it because it's usually heavily biased against women. There's no disclaimer. Women are bad. You make that point over and over. I find it tiresome.
*sigh* let's try this again. this is what you are imagining about me and i have said it to you time and again. i am not biased against women. i shall say it again... the same point i made a few pages back that you prefer to ignore becos it blows this notion up... it's not women that are bad. it is human beings. i piss guys off in threads too becos i say men are pieces of shit who only want sex. quit acting like im persecuting your sex. im persecuting your species. i detest everyone equally.
Ok, this is pretty simple really. If she can cheat on her boyfriend, she can cheat on you. Being drunk is no excuse. Nor is him treating her like shit. She chooses that for herself. If a man treats a woman like crap, and she doesn't get herself immediately out of the situation, then she is allowing herself to be treated that way. Same can be said for men.
I hate when when guys/girls bitch and moan about how bad men/woman are and that they always get shafted and why can't anyone be honest, decent, honourable etc. Because we ask for it. We wonder how it is we always seem to end up with the same kinda person and get crapped on by them, it's because we choose it. If you choose this girl, knowing full well she doesn't have to decency or self respect enough to get out of a bad relationship, and just cheats on him instead and justifies it with "he's an arsehole anyway"........ well then, you are asking to be treated with the same lack of consideration. You're kinda lucky that you get such blatant and obvious warning signs about the kind of girl she is. Take advantage of it.
Brilliantly said... no good will come from this. This girl has been going out with a guy for 2 years who never calls her or hangs out with her? And she's stuck with him WHY? Then she breaks up with him and gets back with him? Actions like this are a serious sign of having no respect in YOURSELF and it's also a sign that she has issues. If that's what you're looking for in a girl, then by all means pursue it and best of luck to you both. If you're looking for a healthy relationship, then run!
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Brilliantly said... no good will come from this. This girl has been going out with a guy for 2 years who never calls her or hangs out with her? And she's stuck with him WHY? Then she breaks up with him and gets back with him? Actions like this are a serious sign of having no respect in YOURSELF and it's also a sign that she has issues. If that's what you're looking for in a girl, then by all means pursue it and best of luck to you both. If you're looking for a healthy relationship, then run!
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The problem is... we don't know this for sure. We are getting only one side of this story. We cannot say for certain that the boyfriend is a dick. We can only take the information provided at face value... recieved from a source with a specific objective in mind. As an example... I bet that you are the worst girlfriend/wife in the world... according to the gal that has her eye on your mate... as she relates her story to her friends.
And as for the gal... again... we don't know. All we know... from the statements that have been made... is she got drunk and had sex with our friend, here. That act alone... is it possible that it left her with feelings of guilt... regret... confusion?
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I'm not calling Oxxxy a liar... i'm just pointing out the fact that he represents one third of the story... from a very specific point of view. I cannot give any real advice untile I hear from the other two parties. That ain't gonna happen... so, the only advice I can give Oxxxy is to give the gal the space she requires to sort thing out for herself.
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Hail, Hail!!!
Ok, so I've been seeing this girl for probably a month now. I met her out at the bar one night, but come to find out I went to college with her. I never knew her in college, but she recognized me. Anyways, we really hit it off and got really drunk. Long story short she gave me her phone number and we had long phone conversations like 3 times. After one of them she texted me and said she had a boyfriend, so I was like what the fuck. Anyways, she said she still wanted to hang out and get a drink the next night. We go out the next night and get totally blitzed of jager and what not, and had a great time. We go back to my place and have sex. Anyways, we started hanging out regularly, but we only had sex when she's drunk because she felt guilty. Her boyfriend of 2 years was a piece of shit and rarely called her treating her like shit. So, finally she decides to break up with him and we still hung out for a while. Then she just stoped calling me for like 2 weeks, so I sent her a long message on myspace explaining that it really bothers me. She apologized and has been better since. We started hanging out again (and sleeping together), but last night we went to the bar and we both got really drunk. She started crying and told me she's not over it yet. I just don't know what the fuck to do, because I really like this girl. I know she really likes me too, but is just confused.
P.S. I can't believe I just posted this on a message board.
Okay I haven't read all the responses. I realized you finally posted your question and just read it.
I really hate hearing about people cheating. It's so fucked up. I would say your relationship started with lies, it's going to end up the same way. Why would get involved with someone whos clearly in a relationship? It's disrespectful and wrong. You should have ended it when you found out. That's my opinion....
I find it tiresome and an oversimplification and it bothers me that your fans just lap it up. Human interaction is more complicated than that and it doesn't always get down to all women are just waiting to screw a guy over.
don't forget he is a guy after all, and in the beginning of this thread we discussed how guys are simple. so of course guys will look at it plainly....without taking anything else into consideration like we women would.
Okay I haven't read all the responses. I realized you finally posted your question and just read it.
I really hate hearing about people cheating. It's so fucked up. I would say your relationship started with lies, it's going to end up the same way. Why would get involved with someone whos clearly in a relationship? It's disrespectful and wrong. You should have ended it when you found out. That's my opinion....
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Then, here's a story you'll like...
I met a gal (at a bar) and we went out on a couple of dates.. the usual dinner, drinks, dancing thing. After about a month, she tells me she is engaged. She was just scared about getting married and just did this crazy thing. Of course, I was upset and told her I wasn't going to be a part of this (mainly because I'm one of those people who try to avoid drama bullshit). At that time, I thought she was crazy.
Years later... I understand her. She wasn't a psycho or crazy... she was just a scared young woman that didn't know what to do.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
furthermore, where did i say she was waiting to screw the guy over? i dont think she set out to hurt him. i think she set out to get what she wanted and he was just collateral damage. this principle applies across gender lines. it's human behavior and men do it as much as women. i wonder how many times i have to repeat this for you to wrap your feeble mind around it, or if you and your ilk just love having me around to serve as a punching bad for all your hatred and indignation at men.
maybe you should make it your signature
whilst i do understand you dislike both genders for treating each other like shit for the majority of time, however i have to say that you direct your anger more towards women. you are biased, you try to help men and be nice to men when they've got problems with women, yet when it's another way round you don't do that. another reason why women think you dislike them more then men is because of the derogatory lyrics you recite.
in the beginning of this thread i said that i'm straight forward...well there you go, i say what i see and i'm not trying to attack you.
I agree with you. women are insane most of the time.
ouh yeah, i think women are much sweeter then men, sure they can get bitchy, but when they are nice they are really nice, especially to the boyfriend they are with!
and if you want to dig up shit on women i'm going to dig up shit on men, like for example mens insecurity and posessivness.......so let's not go there
here we are again. show me where i claim to KNOW what she is goind or thinking. in fact, before you did here, *I* said i doubted she was entirely conscious of her motives or wants in the situation.
*sigh* let's try this again. this is what you are imagining about me and i have said it to you time and again. i am not biased against women. i shall say it again... the same point i made a few pages back that you prefer to ignore becos it blows this notion up... it's not women that are bad. it is human beings. i piss guys off in threads too becos i say men are pieces of shit who only want sex. quit acting like im persecuting your sex. im persecuting your species. i detest everyone equally.
go right ahead. see if i stop you. odds are i will agree with you. ask audiodave or jeremy.
hell, that was one hell of enjoyable read. you'll make pretty damn good lawyer one day.
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Then, here's a story you'll like...
I met a gal (at a bar) and we went out on a couple of dates.. the usual dinner, drinks, dancing thing. After about a month, she tells me she is engaged. She was just scared about getting married and just did this crazy thing. Of course, I was upset and told her I wasn't going to be a part of this (mainly because I'm one of those people who try to avoid drama bullshit). At that time, I thought she was crazy.
Years later... I understand her. She wasn't a psycho or crazy... she was just a scared young woman that didn't know what to do.
I dunno that I liked that story. ;-)
I really don't understand that kind of behavior. If I was scared to get married or whatever, the LAST thing I'd be doing is banging some other dude or going to dinner and dancing with him. I'd be confiding in my partner about my fears or talking to my friends and having dinner with them. I really think its low when people go to bars and pick up dates when they are involved... scared, confused or not, don't you have friends or family to talk to????
I dunno that I liked that story. ;-)
I really don't understand that kind of behavior. If I was scared to get married or whatever, the LAST thing I'd be doing is banging some other dude or going to dinner and dancing with him. I'd be confiding in my partner about my fears or talking to my friends and having dinner with them. I really think its low when people go to bars and pick up dates when they are involved... scared, confused or not, don't you have friends or family to talk to????
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Yeah... I know. I mean, I like sex... but, I hate drama. And there are plenty of single gals I can be banging, so there's no need for me to get tangled up in some bullshit third party web.
Her story was she had moved to California for her work and was marrying some guy she met at the office. She was nice and smart and pretty... but, just overwhelmed with the whole marriage thing.
As for friends or family... I don't know because I never met any of them. But, I know there is not one member of my family i would talk to about some of the crap I go through. And very few friends. Sometimes, it's easier to talk to someone that does not know your history... you know? And does not have a bias.
And really.. all i could do was to tell her that she needed to get away and think long and hard about her feelings and decide whether or not this marriage with this particular guy was what she needed at this point in her life. If she felt she was being overwhelmed and swept up with all the engagement wedding bullshit.. she needed to apply the brakes and figure out if this was where she wanted to go.
Ultimately.. i have no idea what happened. I like to imagine she went to the beach and sat and watched the Sun set and thought very deeply about it. But, I bet she couldn't reach the shoreline and got pulled into the churning mess that comes with wedding plans. I hope she is happy.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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Yeah... I know. I mean, I like sex... but, I hate drama. And there are plenty of single gals I can be banging, so there's no need for me to get tangled up in some bullshit third party web.
Her story was she had moved to California for her work and was marrying some guy she met at the office. She was nice and smart and pretty... but, just overwhelmed with the whole marriage thing.
As for friends or family... I don't know because I never met any of them. But, I know there is not one member of my family i would talk to about some of the crap I go through. And very few friends. Sometimes, it's easier to talk to someone that does not know your history... you know? And does not have a bias.
And really.. all i could do was to tell her that she needed to get away and think long and hard about her feelings and decide whether or not this marriage with this particular guy was what she needed at this point in her life. If she felt she was being overwhelmed and swept up with all the engagement wedding bullshit.. she needed to apply the brakes and figure out if this was where she wanted to go.
Ultimately.. i have no idea what happened. I like to imagine she went to the beach and sat and watched the Sun set and thought very deeply about it. But, I bet she couldn't reach the shoreline and got pulled into the churning mess that comes with wedding plans. I hope she is happy.
yea seriously, that is some drama. I'm thinking that if she is feeling like that and so available to other men, that she should probably break it off. Maybe I'm only like this, but when I have issues in my relationship the absolute LAST thing I'd ever do is get involved in another! I guess I'm lucky too bc I have a lot of friends to mull this stuff over with and of course, the pit too.
whilst i do understand you dislike both genders for treating each other like shit for the majority of time, however i have to say that you direct your anger more towards women. you are biased, you try to help men and be nice to men when they've got problems with women, yet when it's another way round you don't do that. another reason why women think you dislike them more then men is because of the derogatory lyrics you recite.
in the beginning of this thread i said that i'm straight forward...well there you go, i say what i see and i'm not trying to attack you.
i talk about women more becos ive tried dating them, so i have more experience. i havent tried hooking up with guys, so i dont have as much advice or comfort for women with such problems. i doubt anyone would consider my words to the OP in this thread to be "nice."
i cited a few hip hop lyrics once. that was fun. apparently it left quite an impression.
ouh yeah, i think women are much sweeter then men, sure they can get bitchy, but when they are nice they are really nice, especially to the boyfriend they are with!
and if you want to dig up shit on women i'm going to dig up shit on men, like for example mens insecurity and posessivness.......so let's not go there
hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. (most threads i enter are proof of this)
hell hath no monster like a jealous/insecure man. (i am proof of this)
i talk about women more becos ive tried dating them, so i have more experience. i havent tried hooking up with guys, so i dont have as much advice or comfort for women with such problems. i doubt anyone would consider my words to the OP in this thread to be "nice."
i cited a few hip hop lyrics once. that was fun. apparently it left quite an impression.
yep it's certainly made a disgusting impression on me for being insulting to women and generally being hip hop
erm...i think your words were okto OP, they weren't nice, but reasonable , i'm just saying be a little nicer to women pleeeassssee, can you try it for me?
yep it's certainly made a disgusting impression on me for being insulting to women and generally being hip hop
erm...i think your words were okto OP, they weren't nice, but reasonable , i'm just saying be a little nicer to women pleeeassssee, can you try it for me?
im not nice to anyone. why should women get special treatment? id hate to be sexist and treat women one way and men another.
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The problem is... we don't know this for sure. We are getting only one side of this story. We cannot say for certain that the boyfriend is a dick. We can only take the information provided at face value... recieved from a source with a specific objective in mind. As an example... I bet that you are the worst girlfriend/wife in the world... according to the gal that has her eye on your mate... as she relates her story to her friends.
And as for the gal... again... we don't know. All we know... from the statements that have been made... is she got drunk and had sex with our friend, here. That act alone... is it possible that it left her with feelings of guilt... regret... confusion?
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I'm not calling Oxxxy a liar... i'm just pointing out the fact that he represents one third of the story... from a very specific point of view. I cannot give any real advice untile I hear from the other two parties. That ain't gonna happen... so, the only advice I can give Oxxxy is to give the gal the space she requires to sort thing out for herself.
I know what ya mean but he did say she was crying so it does indicate that either she or the relationship have issues... either way, it's not a good situation for him to get himself into. If it's her with the issues, he should run, if it's the relationship he should run too cos he'll just be rebound. The whole situation anyway is crap... she has a boyfriend, that's all ya need to know about the story. If she's interested in oxxy as much as she says she is, the boyfriend would be gone, end of story.
If oxxy is being realistic about this and realises that he deserves someone JUST for him, he'd see that too. I wouldn't want to go out with a man who was torn between me and another woman... I just don't see how that could work or how I could put up with that.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. (most threads i enter are proof of this)
hell hath no monster like a jealous/insecure man. (i am proof of this)
True and True... just don't scorn us and there'll be no fury
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
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i have a harsh opinion of humans in general. i just have more experience with the women becos i dont date guys
see? there you go....humans just suck sometimes....it's why I like hanging with horses and my dogs.
and as for dating guys? see above...it's why I like hanging with horses and my dogs.
I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
this thread has gotten me sex on the brain... i read that as "i like banging with..." and was like "this thread just took a very unexpected turn!"
but yeah, i dont envy women either. we're no picnic to deal with either i'm sure. it's amazing anyone stays together at all. of course, statistically the vast majority don't.
yeah, ok if that helps.
Did I? Or did you just perceive it that way based on your opinions of me?
If we're gonna get into automatic disclaimers then I'd like one thanks. WHENEVER I speak to you, I am not necessarily attacking you personally I am taking issue with what you say and the endless hang up that you can't seem to get past when it comes to women and a few other things but I digress. The language and terminology you use. Not you personally. If I use capital letters, I am not necessarily yelling at you, I am most likely just stressing a point (if you'd prefer I use bold I'll try to remember that for the future)
If you want to spend your life holding on to your cynicism because it works for you that's your decision, I personally find it weak minded and too easy but it's your life.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
howl! I won't even type what I had originally had after "as for dating guys".
hence, I'm divorced and happily independent.
I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
I said you were wrong for thinking that you know what this girl is doing or thinking. Wrong for assuming what her motivations are. None of us know that. I'd venture to say she probably isn't even aware of them all herself.
You're right. I don't like the way you say it because it's usually heavily biased against women. There's no disclaimer. Women are bad. You make that point over and over. I find it tiresome. It would be like me continually bagging men because of my negative experiences and that's pathetic because NOT all men are arseholes.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
Ok, this is pretty simple really. If she can cheat on her boyfriend, she can cheat on you. Being drunk is no excuse. Nor is him treating her like shit. She chooses that for herself. If a man treats a woman like crap, and she doesn't get herself immediately out of the situation, then she is allowing herself to be treated that way. Same can be said for men.
I hate when when guys/girls bitch and moan about how bad men/woman are and that they always get shafted and why can't anyone be honest, decent, honourable etc. Because we ask for it. We wonder how it is we always seem to end up with the same kinda person and get crapped on by them, it's because we choose it. If you choose this girl, knowing full well she doesn't have to decency or self respect enough to get out of a bad relationship, and just cheats on him instead and justifies it with "he's an arsehole anyway"........ well then, you are asking to be treated with the same lack of consideration. You're kinda lucky that you get such blatant and obvious warning signs about the kind of girl she is. Take advantage of it.
here we are again. show me where i claim to KNOW what she is goind or thinking. in fact, before you did here, *I* said i doubted she was entirely conscious of her motives or wants in the situation.
*sigh* let's try this again. this is what you are imagining about me and i have said it to you time and again. i am not biased against women. i shall say it again... the same point i made a few pages back that you prefer to ignore becos it blows this notion up... it's not women that are bad. it is human beings. i piss guys off in threads too becos i say men are pieces of shit who only want sex. quit acting like im persecuting your sex. im persecuting your species. i detest everyone equally.
go right ahead. see if i stop you. odds are i will agree with you. ask audiodave or jeremy.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
The problem is... we don't know this for sure. We are getting only one side of this story. We cannot say for certain that the boyfriend is a dick. We can only take the information provided at face value... recieved from a source with a specific objective in mind. As an example... I bet that you are the worst girlfriend/wife in the world... according to the gal that has her eye on your mate... as she relates her story to her friends.
And as for the gal... again... we don't know. All we know... from the statements that have been made... is she got drunk and had sex with our friend, here. That act alone... is it possible that it left her with feelings of guilt... regret... confusion?
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I'm not calling Oxxxy a liar... i'm just pointing out the fact that he represents one third of the story... from a very specific point of view. I cannot give any real advice untile I hear from the other two parties. That ain't gonna happen... so, the only advice I can give Oxxxy is to give the gal the space she requires to sort thing out for herself.
Hail, Hail!!!
Okay I haven't read all the responses. I realized you finally posted your question and just read it.
I really hate hearing about people cheating. It's so fucked up. I would say your relationship started with lies, it's going to end up the same way. Why would get involved with someone whos clearly in a relationship? It's disrespectful and wrong. You should have ended it when you found out. That's my opinion....
haha, that's one hilarious line
don't forget he is a guy after all, and in the beginning of this thread we discussed how guys are simple. so of course guys will look at it plainly....without taking anything else into consideration like we women would.
oh they do
Then, here's a story you'll like...
I met a gal (at a bar) and we went out on a couple of dates.. the usual dinner, drinks, dancing thing. After about a month, she tells me she is engaged. She was just scared about getting married and just did this crazy thing. Of course, I was upset and told her I wasn't going to be a part of this (mainly because I'm one of those people who try to avoid drama bullshit). At that time, I thought she was crazy.
Years later... I understand her. She wasn't a psycho or crazy... she was just a scared young woman that didn't know what to do.
Hail, Hail!!!
maybe you should make it your signature
whilst i do understand you dislike both genders for treating each other like shit for the majority of time, however i have to say that you direct your anger more towards women. you are biased, you try to help men and be nice to men when they've got problems with women, yet when it's another way round you don't do that. another reason why women think you dislike them more then men is because of the derogatory lyrics you recite.
in the beginning of this thread i said that i'm straight forward...well there you go, i say what i see and i'm not trying to attack you.
In Soulsinging's defence though you were sarcastic and you did write your letters in capitals, which i find offensive when someone does it to me.
ouh yeah, i think women are much sweeter then men, sure they can get bitchy, but when they are nice they are really nice, especially to the boyfriend they are with!
and if you want to dig up shit on women i'm going to dig up shit on men, like for example mens insecurity and posessivness.......so let's not go there
hell, that was one hell of enjoyable read. you'll make pretty damn good lawyer one day.
I dunno that I liked that story. ;-)
I really don't understand that kind of behavior. If I was scared to get married or whatever, the LAST thing I'd be doing is banging some other dude or going to dinner and dancing with him. I'd be confiding in my partner about my fears or talking to my friends and having dinner with them. I really think its low when people go to bars and pick up dates when they are involved... scared, confused or not, don't you have friends or family to talk to????
Yeah... I know. I mean, I like sex... but, I hate drama. And there are plenty of single gals I can be banging, so there's no need for me to get tangled up in some bullshit third party web.
Her story was she had moved to California for her work and was marrying some guy she met at the office. She was nice and smart and pretty... but, just overwhelmed with the whole marriage thing.
As for friends or family... I don't know because I never met any of them. But, I know there is not one member of my family i would talk to about some of the crap I go through. And very few friends. Sometimes, it's easier to talk to someone that does not know your history... you know? And does not have a bias.
And really.. all i could do was to tell her that she needed to get away and think long and hard about her feelings and decide whether or not this marriage with this particular guy was what she needed at this point in her life. If she felt she was being overwhelmed and swept up with all the engagement wedding bullshit.. she needed to apply the brakes and figure out if this was where she wanted to go.
Ultimately.. i have no idea what happened. I like to imagine she went to the beach and sat and watched the Sun set and thought very deeply about it. But, I bet she couldn't reach the shoreline and got pulled into the churning mess that comes with wedding plans. I hope she is happy.
Hail, Hail!!!
yea seriously, that is some drama. I'm thinking that if she is feeling like that and so available to other men, that she should probably break it off. Maybe I'm only like this, but when I have issues in my relationship the absolute LAST thing I'd ever do is get involved in another! I guess I'm lucky too bc I have a lot of friends to mull this stuff over with and of course, the pit too.
i talk about women more becos ive tried dating them, so i have more experience. i havent tried hooking up with guys, so i dont have as much advice or comfort for women with such problems. i doubt anyone would consider my words to the OP in this thread to be "nice."
i cited a few hip hop lyrics once. that was fun. apparently it left quite an impression.
hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. (most threads i enter are proof of this)
hell hath no monster like a jealous/insecure man. (i am proof of this)
yep it's certainly made a disgusting impression on me
erm...i think your words were okto OP, they weren't nice, but reasonable , i'm just saying be a little nicer to women
im not nice to anyone. why should women get special treatment? id hate to be sexist and treat women one way and men another.
hip hop is awesome.
ok, just make sure you do treat everyone equally.
nah hip hop is nothing compared to blues
I know what ya mean but he did say she was crying so it does indicate that either she or the relationship have issues... either way, it's not a good situation for him to get himself into. If it's her with the issues, he should run, if it's the relationship he should run too cos he'll just be rebound. The whole situation anyway is crap... she has a boyfriend, that's all ya need to know about the story. If she's interested in oxxy as much as she says she is, the boyfriend would be gone, end of story.
If oxxy is being realistic about this and realises that he deserves someone JUST for him, he'd see that too. I wouldn't want to go out with a man who was torn between me and another woman... I just don't see how that could work or how I could put up with that.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you