She cheated on him with you, and I'm pretty sure she'd do it again. She doesn't know what she wants and you have to realize that.
Exactly. She was banging you when she had a "boyfriend"... guess what's gonna happen if you're the "boyfriend"? I'd be willing to bet you're not the first guy she's banged while dating this guy... just the latest. She needs constant male attention and sounds like a headcase.
Hate to be so blunt, but IMO this sounds like the classic case I've seen many times before. Run away because it's gonna be nothing more than a mindfuck for you, as it sounds like you're already kind of emotionally attached.
Ok, so I've been seeing this girl for probably a month now. I met her out at the bar one night, but come to find out I went to college with her. I never knew her in college, but she recognized me. Anyways, we really hit it off and got really drunk. Long story short she gave me her phone number and we had long phone conversations like 3 times. After one of them she texted me and said she had a boyfriend, so I was like what the fuck. Anyways, she said she still wanted to hang out and get a drink the next night. We go out the next night and get totally blitzed of jager and what not, and had a great time. We go back to my place and have sex. Anyways, we started hanging out regularly, but we only had sex when she's drunk because she felt guilty. Her boyfriend of 2 years was a piece of shit and rarely called her treating her like shit. So, finally she decides to break up with him and we still hung out for a while. Then she just stoped calling me for like 2 weeks, so I sent her a long message on myspace explaining that it really bothers me. She apologized and has been better since. We started hanging out again (and sleeping together), but last night we went to the bar and we both got really drunk. She started crying and told me she's not over it yet. I just don't know what the fuck to do, because I really like this girl. I know she really likes me too, but is just confused.
P.S. I can't believe I just posted this on a message board.
Oxxys im going threw the same thing at the moment,this girls been fucking me around for months, split up and got back with me twice a week for the last four months,and its all over the fact shes not over here x, everyone was telling me to stay clear of her and i didnt listen cos im a stupid fuck, she came up to me in uni on monday being all nice and i just told her to "FUCK OFF" which made me feel better,do yourself a favor.
Ok, so I've been seeing this girl for probably a month now. I met her out at the bar one night, but come to find out I went to college with her. I never knew her in college, but she recognized me. Anyways, we really hit it off and got really drunk. Long story short she gave me her phone number and we had long phone conversations like 3 times. After one of them she texted me and said she had a boyfriend, so I was like what the fuck. Anyways, she said she still wanted to hang out and get a drink the next night. We go out the next night and get totally blitzed of jager and what not, and had a great time. We go back to my place and have sex. Anyways, we started hanging out regularly, but we only had sex when she's drunk because she felt guilty. Her boyfriend of 2 years was a piece of shit and rarely called her treating her like shit. So, finally she decides to break up with him and we still hung out for a while. Then she just stoped calling me for like 2 weeks, so I sent her a long message on myspace explaining that it really bothers me. She apologized and has been better since. We started hanging out again (and sleeping together), but last night we went to the bar and we both got really drunk. She started crying and told me she's not over it yet. I just don't know what the fuck to do, because I really like this girl. I know she really likes me too, but is just confused.
P.S. I can't believe I just posted this on a message board.
you were a stepping stone. she was bored with her relationship, but too comfortable to leave and risk the unknown. but you provided a chance to try it out. she knew who you were, but was also distant enough it would be easy to leave and not complicate things. she got to try out sex and see if she liked being with somebody else, she got to reassure herself that she could get other guys. so she dumped the bf. and now she's free and doesn't want to get tied down again right away by you. she IS over it. but she wants to have some fun now, not go from one longterm boyfriend to another.
you were a stepping stone. she was bored with her relationship, but too comfortable to leave and risk the unknown. but you provided a chance to try it out. she knew who you were, but was also distant enough it would be easy to leave and not complicate things. she got to try out sex and see if she liked being with somebody else, she got to reassure herself that she could get other guys. so she dumped the bf. and now she's free and doesn't want to get tied down again right away by you. she IS over it. but she wants to have some fun now, not go from one longterm boyfriend to another.
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and every one of her decisions were made while intoxicated... or so the story goes.
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you were a stepping stone. she was bored with her relationship, but too comfortable to leave and risk the unknown. but you provided a chance to try it out. she knew who you were, but was also distant enough it would be easy to leave and not complicate things. she got to try out sex and see if she liked being with somebody else, she got to reassure herself that she could get other guys. so she dumped the bf. and now she's free and doesn't want to get tied down again right away by you. she IS over it. but she wants to have some fun now, not go from one longterm boyfriend to another.
What are you? Psychic now? :rolleyes:
That COULD be what she's thinking, but you could also be wrong. oooh that's right WRONG!
Oxxys you like her, that's apparent. Truth is regardless of how you feel about her and whatever it is that she is doing right now, you deserve to be with someone that is honest with you about their feelings, not confused and exclusive. So keep going with it, by all means, but I suspect you'll come away hurt and bitter if you do and there's enough of those cynical fuckers in the world already. Might be better to cool it on the screwing and the getting drunk together, be a friend and let her do whatever it is she needs to do to move on with her life, without you as her lover.
Oxxys you like her, that's apparent. Truth is regardless of how you feel about her and whatever it is that she is doing right now, you deserve to be with someone that is honest with you about their feelings, not confused and exclusive. So keep going with it, by all means, but I suspect you'll come away hurt and bitter if you do and there's enough of those cynical fuckers in the world already. Might be better to cool it on the screwing and the getting drunk together, be a friend and let her do whatever it is she needs to do to move on with her life, without you as her lover.
funny, same advice i'd have given. he wants more than she does and he's going to get hurt.
I still don't understand why everyone is down on this chick... I mean, I haven't heard HER side of this story. I'm at least willing to give her the benefit of the doubt in her absense and tell Oxxxxy to give her the space she requires... and quit mixing booze in the mess and let her sort things out.
Oxxxy... dude... if you consider yourself her friend.. act like one. Be more concerned about her well being, than yours. That's what friends do.
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possible. just my educated guess. what's got your panties in a twist?
Your educated guesswork is flawed. No wait, it's subjective.
I find it tiresome and an oversimplification and it bothers me that your fans just lap it up. Human interaction is more complicated than that and it doesn't always get down to all women are just waiting to screw a guy over. Same as I have to accept that not all men are arseholes.
funny, same advice i'd have given. he wants more than she does and he's going to get hurt.
The difference as I see it is that you seem to be coming from the premise that she's fucked up and deliberately and maliciously attempting to ruin this guys life because she's got some heinous character flaws or something.
Right now she doesn't know what she wants as far as I can see and it's possible that she will also get hurt. So I guess what we disagree on is motivation and intent.
I still don't understand why everyone is down of this chick... I mean, I haven't heard HER side of this story. I'm at least willing to give her the benefit of the doubt in her absense and tell Oxxxxy to give her the space she requires... and quit mixing booze in the mess and let her sort things out.
Oxxxy... dude... if you consider yourself her friend.. act like one. Be more concerned about her well being, than yours. That's what friends do.
Much as I hate to find myself agreeing with you yet again, I do.
I'm not down on her and I don't know what her side of the story is.
The situation as it stands from Oxxy's perspective as far as I can see though is that regardless of her motivations he is struggling with what is happening, what has happened so far and I cannot see a happy ending for either of them. Although it's possible I guess. Stranger things have happened.
Being friends is probably the best course of action to take.
Your educated guesswork is flawed. No wait, it's subjective.
I find it tiresome and an oversimplification and it bothers me that your fans just lap it up. Human interaction is more complicated than that and it doesn't always get down to all women are just waiting to screw a guy over. Same as I have to accept that not all men are arseholes.
of course it's subjective. so what? id be surprised if i had "fans." some of the things i say resonate with some people, but i rather doubt that makes them fans. just that they have experiences that are similar to what i am saying.
furthermore, where did i say she was waiting to screw the guy over? i dont think she set out to hurt him. i think she set out to get what she wanted and he was just collateral damage. this principle applies across gender lines. it's human behavior and men do it as much as women. i wonder how many times i have to repeat this for you to wrap your feeble mind around it, or if you and your ilk just love having me around to serve as a punching bad for all your hatred and indignation at men.
The difference as I see it is that you seem to be coming from the premise that she's fucked up and deliberately and maliciously attempting to ruin this guys life because she's got some heinous character flaws or something.
Right now she doesn't know what she wants as far as I can see and it's possible that she will also get hurt. So I guess what we disagree on is motivation and intent.
i SEEM to be. that sounds subjective doesnt it? becos it is.
i dont think she's fucked up or malicious or trying to ruin his life. i think she's doing what she wants and i fully support it. hell, im in the same state of mind i suspect she is... feeling trapped and just wanting to have some fun. i'm all for her pursuing that. i just think the dude needs to be real. she doesn't want him. she used him, probably totally subconsciously and with no bad intentions, but using nonetheless. now he wants a relationship and she wants to have fun. so him trying to convince himself she just needs a little space and then he'll have a shot is likely to do nothing but hurt him. she's not what he's looking for and he's not what she's looking for. she wants fun, he wants commitment. nothing wrong with either. they're just mismatched. and him thinking she's going to come around to him is only going to cause him to miss out on other opportunities and then have his heart broken while she gets it out of her system.
of course it's subjective. so what? id be surprised if i had "fans." some of the things i say resonate with some people, but i rather doubt that makes them fans. just that they have experiences that are similar to what i am saying.
furthermore, where did i say she was waiting to screw the guy over? i dont think she set out to hurt him. i think she set out to get what she wanted and he was just collateral damage. this principle applies across gender lines. it's human behavior and men do it as much as women. i wonder how many times i have to repeat this for you to wrap your feeble mind around it, or if you and your ilk just love having me around to serve as a punching bad for all your hatred and indignation at men.
i SEEM to be. that sounds subjective doesnt it? becos it is.
i dont think she's fucked up or malicious or trying to ruin his life. i think she's doing what she wants and i fully support it. hell, im in the same state of mind i suspect she is... feeling trapped and just wanting to have some fun. i'm all for her pursuing that. i just think the dude needs to be real. she doesn't want him. she used him, probably totally subconsciously and with no bad intentions, but using nonetheless. now he wants a relationship and she wants to have fun. so him trying to convince himself she just needs a little space and then he'll have a shot is likely to do nothing but hurt him. she's not what he's looking for and he's not what she's looking for. she wants fun, he wants commitment. nothing wrong with either. they're just mismatched. and him thinking she's going to come around to him is only going to cause him to miss out on other opportunities and then have his heart broken while she gets it out of her system.
It's my way of saying that talking to you about anything seems to be a complete and utter waste of my time and I'm over it.
hey man, since you had such strong and disgusted opinions on things i didnt actually say, i was kind of curious what you might have to say about the things i actually did say. but if you'd rather ignore them and just cling to the perception that you love so much that i just hate women and use it to rationalize the fact that you project all your bitterness towards men onto me, that's cool too.
hey man, since you had such strong and disgusted opinions on things i didnt actually say, i was kind of curious what you might have to say about the things i actually did say. but if you'd rather ignore them and just cling to the perception that you love so much that i just hate women and use it to rationalize the fact that you project all your bitterness towards men onto me, that's cool too.
Seriously I know you love to have the last word but are you really gonna turn this into yet another personal attack? I should have put money on it.
Before you get yourself all worked up into another unecessary attack on me, just to make yourself feel better or whatever gratification it is that you get from them, you've completely missed the point YET AGAIN.
For whatever reason, you and I cannot communicate with each other. I don't attribute that to any heinous character flaw on your part OR mine. I just see it for what it is and I cannot be bothered trying to rectify it any longer.
Seriously I know you love to have the last word but are you really gonna turn this into yet another personal attack? I should have put money on it.
Before you get yourself all worked up into another unecessary attack on me, just to make yourself feel better or whatever gratification it is that you get from them, you've completely missed the point YET AGAIN.
For whatever reason, you and I cannot communicate with each other. I don't attribute that to any heinous character flaw on your part OR mine. I just see it for what it is and I cannot be bothered trying to rectify it any longer.
perhaps part of the problem is that when i posted a legitimate, albeit pessimistic, interpretation of the events, the only response you could muster was sarcasm and all-caps screaming that i was wrong?
im capable of respectfully considering and debating your views if you are willing to respectfully debate mine.
perhaps part of the problem is that when i posted a legitimate, albeit pessimistic, interpretation of the events, the only response you could muster was sarcasm and all-caps screaming that i was wrong?
im capable of respectfully considering and debating your views if you are willing to respectfully debate mine.
Yeah, that's bound to be it. It's me. It's not you. :rolleyes:
As I see it, you are not capable, for whatever reason, of even understanding what I'm saying or my motivations let along being respectful or considerate of me or them. I know I sure as hell don't understand you. I've tried. Something goes radically wrong and I cannot change it seemingly.
Again, that's just how it is.
I'm sure whenever I speak to you it sounds like Borg or something so why even bother? I don't get you, you don't get me. Let's move on hey. It's boring, distressing and a complete and utter waste of time for both of us and I'm quite sure everyone else is over it too.
As I see it, you are not capable, for whatever reason, of even understanding what I'm saying or my motivations let along being respectful or considerate of me or them. I know I sure as hell don't understand you. I've tried. Something goes radically wrong and I cannot change it seemingly.
Again, that's just how it is.
I'm sure whenever I speak to you it sounds like Borg or something so why even bother? I don't get you, you don't get me. Let's move on hey. It's boring, distressing and a complete and utter waste of time for both of us and I'm quite sure everyone else is over it too.
i dont think that's true. i dont even know what borg is. and we only have this problem when i start talking about my views on relations between the sexes.
but no, i am not capable of understanding what you are saying or what your motivations are. becos you have not said anything about my actual post, only the post you thought i wrote based on attitudes that you imagine i hold that are, in fact, not true. which is how we got here. as i said, i'd love to hear your thoughts on what i actually wrote.
Ok, so I've been seeing this girl for probably a month now. I met her out at the bar one night, but come to find out I went to college with her. I never knew her in college, but she recognized me. Anyways, we really hit it off and got really drunk. Long story short she gave me her phone number and we had long phone conversations like 3 times. After one of them she texted me and said she had a boyfriend, so I was like what the fuck. Anyways, she said she still wanted to hang out and get a drink the next night. We go out the next night and get totally blitzed of jager and what not, and had a great time. We go back to my place and have sex. Anyways, we started hanging out regularly, but we only had sex when she's drunk because she felt guilty. Her boyfriend of 2 years was a piece of shit and rarely called her treating her like shit. So, finally she decides to break up with him and we still hung out for a while. Then she just stoped calling me for like 2 weeks, so I sent her a long message on myspace explaining that it really bothers me. She apologized and has been better since. We started hanging out again (and sleeping together), but last night we went to the bar and we both got really drunk. She started crying and told me she's not over it yet. I just don't know what the fuck to do, because I really like this girl. I know she really likes me too, but is just confused.
P.S. I can't believe I just posted this on a message board.
well...you posted it....
And as a woman? I say run....as fast as you can. She's using you/used you as the next "lilly pad" to jump to so that she wouldn't be alone. Anyone who has to jump from one relationship and/or just can't spend time alone before ending another relationship has issues. I did it when I was younger and it took me a few failed relationships to realize that was a big part of the failure.
run...just fuckin' run.
believe it or not, we don't "need" anything. that is only the spoiled brat in us trying to fill some temporary solution to an emptyness that does not exist.
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You know the older you get.. the less you put up with when it comes to dating... soon you start easily seeing the red flags of the psychos and jerks...
there are plenty of fish in the sea.. I know sounds so cliche... but true
Amen to that......
believe it or not, we don't "need" anything. that is only the spoiled brat in us trying to fill some temporary solution to an emptyness that does not exist.
I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
And as a woman? I say run....as fast as you can. She's using you/used you as the next "lilly pad" to jump to so that she wouldn't be alone. Anyone who has to jump from one relationship and/or just can't spend time alone before ending another relationship has issues. I did it when I was younger and it took me a few failed relationships to realize that was a big part of the failure.
run...just fuckin' run.
you better delete this. if jeanie finds out that a woman agrees it is possible he is being used as i suggested, she might go catatonic. her worldview is based on the assumption that anything i say that involves women and sexual relations is wrong by default.
of course, i know that it's me, becos when you're a woman, it's NEVER you
In this life there are winners and losers in any given situation. So it's NEVER all the man or all the woman. And it's never ALL the women or ALL the men.
i dont think that's true. i dont even know what borg is. and we only have this problem when i start talking about my views on relations between the sexes.
The Borg are a fictional pseudo-race of cyborgs depicted in Star Trek. They have their own language. So I guess I'm saying whenever we get to this subject I am speaking french (if you prefer) and you are speaking swahili.
but no, i am not capable of understanding what you are saying or what your motivations are. becos you have not said anything about my actual post, only the post you thought i wrote based on attitudes that you imagine i hold that are, in fact, not true. which is how we got here. as i said, i'd love to hear your thoughts on what i actually wrote.
And there in lies the problem. Whatever it is you are trying to say is lost on me, just as whatever it is that I am trying to say is lost on you. Then it just gets down to this he said, she said bullshit. Responding to whatever we think the other is saying. As I said it's pointless. I don't think you do want to hear my thoughts on what you actually wrote because I objected to the pessimism and generalization of what you said and you took issue with that straight up. Any humor on my part was lost on you and now we just dig a bigger hole. It's futile. You keep coming at the whole man/woman issue from a place of pessimism and I will learn to ignore you. I think it's the only way really.
you better delete this. if jeanie finds out that a woman agrees it is possible he is being used as i suggested, she might go catatonic. her worldview is based on the assumption that anything i say that involves women and sexual relations is wrong by default.
Did I not also tell Oxxy to give up on the sexual side of the relationship? That he was better off out of it?
So would that not tend to indicate that to some degree I agree with what Whiz is saying?
But if it helps you to think I am way off, because it supports your superiority complex, knock yourself out.
The Borg are a fictional pseudo-race of cyborgs depicted in Star Trek. They have their own language. So I guess I'm saying whenever we get to this subject I am speaking french (if you prefer) and you are speaking swahili.
And there in lies the problem. Whatever it is you are trying to say is lost on me, just as whatever it is that I am trying to say is lost on you. Then it just gets down to this he said, she said bullshit. Responding to whatever we think the other is saying. As I said it's pointless. I don't think you do want to hear my thoughts on what you actually wrote because I objected to the pessimism and generalization of what you said and you took issue with that straight up. Any humor on my part was lost on you and now we just dig a bigger hole. It's futile. You keep coming at the whole man/woman issue from a place of pessimism and I will learn to ignore you. I think it's the only way really.
i took issue with the fact that you attributed things to me that i did not say. i would be curious to hear your reasons for why my cynicism is unfounded. as to the generalization... there were no generalizations in my post. i only said what i felt was happening in this particular situation based on the facts he presented interpreted in the light of my experiences and perceptions. i never said anything about anyone else, nor did i claim my interpretation was the only correct one. i would think by now that people would automatically read the "in my opinion" disclaimer they always want me to include in my posts.
you better delete this. if jeanie finds out that a woman agrees it is possible he is being used as i suggested, she might go catatonic. her worldview is based on the assumption that anything i say that involves women and sexual relations is wrong by default.
:eek:
seriously...yup, you have a harsh opinion on women but 90% of the time, I agree with you. women are insane most of the time. I think both sexes play their share of games and it's because of their own hang-ups. hell, I was seeing someone a year ago who was proffessing love to me before he went to court for his divorce and is now engaged to a girl he started seeing before he had the sack to break up with me. We've all done weak things, it's just a matter of seeing it for yourself, admitting it and learning from it. shit, I still am.
believe it or not, we don't "need" anything. that is only the spoiled brat in us trying to fill some temporary solution to an emptyness that does not exist.
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Did I not also tell Oxxy to give up on the sexual side of the relationship? That he was better off out of it?
So would that not tend to indicate that to some degree I agree with what Whiz is saying?
But if it helps you to think I am way off, because it supports your superiority complex, knock yourself out.
that is exactly my point. we agree on this. yet in your first post you said i was wrong. so who's the one getting personal? it's not that what i say is wrong, it's that you don't like the way i say it becos of your unfounded assumptions about me and my attitudes towards women.
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Exactly. She was banging you when she had a "boyfriend"... guess what's gonna happen if you're the "boyfriend"? I'd be willing to bet you're not the first guy she's banged while dating this guy... just the latest. She needs constant male attention and sounds like a headcase.
Hate to be so blunt, but IMO this sounds like the classic case I've seen many times before. Run away because it's gonna be nothing more than a mindfuck for you, as it sounds like you're already kind of emotionally attached.
you'd be surprised. not far off from that.
you were a stepping stone. she was bored with her relationship, but too comfortable to leave and risk the unknown. but you provided a chance to try it out. she knew who you were, but was also distant enough it would be easy to leave and not complicate things. she got to try out sex and see if she liked being with somebody else, she got to reassure herself that she could get other guys. so she dumped the bf. and now she's free and doesn't want to get tied down again right away by you. she IS over it. but she wants to have some fun now, not go from one longterm boyfriend to another.
I always do that to my ex-girlfriends and I never hear from them again.
and every one of her decisions were made while intoxicated... or so the story goes.
Hail, Hail!!!
What are you? Psychic now? :rolleyes:
That COULD be what she's thinking, but you could also be wrong. oooh that's right WRONG!
Oxxys you like her, that's apparent. Truth is regardless of how you feel about her and whatever it is that she is doing right now, you deserve to be with someone that is honest with you about their feelings, not confused and exclusive. So keep going with it, by all means, but I suspect you'll come away hurt and bitter if you do and there's enough of those cynical fuckers in the world already. Might be better to cool it on the screwing and the getting drunk together, be a friend and let her do whatever it is she needs to do to move on with her life, without you as her lover.
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possible. just my educated guess. what's got your panties in a twist?
funny, same advice i'd have given. he wants more than she does and he's going to get hurt.
Oxxxy... dude... if you consider yourself her friend.. act like one. Be more concerned about her well being, than yours. That's what friends do.
Hail, Hail!!!
Your educated guesswork is flawed. No wait, it's subjective.
I find it tiresome and an oversimplification and it bothers me that your fans just lap it up. Human interaction is more complicated than that and it doesn't always get down to all women are just waiting to screw a guy over. Same as I have to accept that not all men are arseholes.
The difference as I see it is that you seem to be coming from the premise that she's fucked up and deliberately and maliciously attempting to ruin this guys life because she's got some heinous character flaws or something.
Right now she doesn't know what she wants as far as I can see and it's possible that she will also get hurt. So I guess what we disagree on is motivation and intent.
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Much as I hate to find myself agreeing with you yet again, I do.
I'm not down on her and I don't know what her side of the story is.
The situation as it stands from Oxxy's perspective as far as I can see though is that regardless of her motivations he is struggling with what is happening, what has happened so far and I cannot see a happy ending for either of them. Although it's possible I guess. Stranger things have happened.
Being friends is probably the best course of action to take.
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of course it's subjective. so what? id be surprised if i had "fans." some of the things i say resonate with some people, but i rather doubt that makes them fans. just that they have experiences that are similar to what i am saying.
furthermore, where did i say she was waiting to screw the guy over? i dont think she set out to hurt him. i think she set out to get what she wanted and he was just collateral damage. this principle applies across gender lines. it's human behavior and men do it as much as women. i wonder how many times i have to repeat this for you to wrap your feeble mind around it, or if you and your ilk just love having me around to serve as a punching bad for all your hatred and indignation at men.
i SEEM to be. that sounds subjective doesnt it? becos it is.
i dont think she's fucked up or malicious or trying to ruin his life. i think she's doing what she wants and i fully support it. hell, im in the same state of mind i suspect she is... feeling trapped and just wanting to have some fun. i'm all for her pursuing that. i just think the dude needs to be real. she doesn't want him. she used him, probably totally subconsciously and with no bad intentions, but using nonetheless. now he wants a relationship and she wants to have fun. so him trying to convince himself she just needs a little space and then he'll have a shot is likely to do nothing but hurt him. she's not what he's looking for and he's not what she's looking for. she wants fun, he wants commitment. nothing wrong with either. they're just mismatched. and him thinking she's going to come around to him is only going to cause him to miss out on other opportunities and then have his heart broken while she gets it out of her system.
**sigh** just forget I said anything.
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is that your way of saying "sorry i jumped on you and made rash judgments about what you were saying that were unfounded."
....or you could keep kicking. :rolleyes:
It's my way of saying that talking to you about anything seems to be a complete and utter waste of my time and I'm over it.
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hey man, since you had such strong and disgusted opinions on things i didnt actually say, i was kind of curious what you might have to say about the things i actually did say. but if you'd rather ignore them and just cling to the perception that you love so much that i just hate women and use it to rationalize the fact that you project all your bitterness towards men onto me, that's cool too.
Seriously I know you love to have the last word but are you really gonna turn this into yet another personal attack? I should have put money on it.
Before you get yourself all worked up into another unecessary attack on me, just to make yourself feel better or whatever gratification it is that you get from them, you've completely missed the point YET AGAIN.
For whatever reason, you and I cannot communicate with each other. I don't attribute that to any heinous character flaw on your part OR mine. I just see it for what it is and I cannot be bothered trying to rectify it any longer.
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perhaps part of the problem is that when i posted a legitimate, albeit pessimistic, interpretation of the events, the only response you could muster was sarcasm and all-caps screaming that i was wrong?
im capable of respectfully considering and debating your views if you are willing to respectfully debate mine.
Yeah, that's bound to be it. It's me. It's not you. :rolleyes:
As I see it, you are not capable, for whatever reason, of even understanding what I'm saying or my motivations let along being respectful or considerate of me or them. I know I sure as hell don't understand you. I've tried. Something goes radically wrong and I cannot change it seemingly.
Again, that's just how it is.
I'm sure whenever I speak to you it sounds like Borg or something so why even bother? I don't get you, you don't get me. Let's move on hey. It's boring, distressing and a complete and utter waste of time for both of us and I'm quite sure everyone else is over it too.
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please, point me to the post where i took the first provocative shot.
of course, i know that it's me, becos when you're a woman, it's NEVER you
i dont think that's true. i dont even know what borg is. and we only have this problem when i start talking about my views on relations between the sexes.
but no, i am not capable of understanding what you are saying or what your motivations are. becos you have not said anything about my actual post, only the post you thought i wrote based on attitudes that you imagine i hold that are, in fact, not true. which is how we got here. as i said, i'd love to hear your thoughts on what i actually wrote.
well...you posted it....
And as a woman? I say run....as fast as you can. She's using you/used you as the next "lilly pad" to jump to so that she wouldn't be alone. Anyone who has to jump from one relationship and/or just can't spend time alone before ending another relationship has issues. I did it when I was younger and it took me a few failed relationships to realize that was a big part of the failure.
run...just fuckin' run.
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Amen to that......
I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
you better delete this. if jeanie finds out that a woman agrees it is possible he is being used as i suggested, she might go catatonic. her worldview is based on the assumption that anything i say that involves women and sexual relations is wrong by default.
It isn't one post, it's a running theme, which I'm sure you're aware of.
In this life there are winners and losers in any given situation. So it's NEVER all the man or all the woman. And it's never ALL the women or ALL the men.
The Borg are a fictional pseudo-race of cyborgs depicted in Star Trek. They have their own language. So I guess I'm saying whenever we get to this subject I am speaking french (if you prefer) and you are speaking swahili.
And there in lies the problem. Whatever it is you are trying to say is lost on me, just as whatever it is that I am trying to say is lost on you. Then it just gets down to this he said, she said bullshit. Responding to whatever we think the other is saying. As I said it's pointless. I don't think you do want to hear my thoughts on what you actually wrote because I objected to the pessimism and generalization of what you said and you took issue with that straight up. Any humor on my part was lost on you and now we just dig a bigger hole. It's futile. You keep coming at the whole man/woman issue from a place of pessimism and I will learn to ignore you. I think it's the only way really.
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Did I not also tell Oxxy to give up on the sexual side of the relationship? That he was better off out of it?
So would that not tend to indicate that to some degree I agree with what Whiz is saying?
But if it helps you to think I am way off, because it supports your superiority complex, knock yourself out.
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i think in that case you'd be speaking geek
i took issue with the fact that you attributed things to me that i did not say. i would be curious to hear your reasons for why my cynicism is unfounded. as to the generalization... there were no generalizations in my post. i only said what i felt was happening in this particular situation based on the facts he presented interpreted in the light of my experiences and perceptions. i never said anything about anyone else, nor did i claim my interpretation was the only correct one. i would think by now that people would automatically read the "in my opinion" disclaimer they always want me to include in my posts.
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seriously...yup, you have a harsh opinion on women but 90% of the time, I agree with you. women are insane most of the time. I think both sexes play their share of games and it's because of their own hang-ups. hell, I was seeing someone a year ago who was proffessing love to me before he went to court for his divorce and is now engaged to a girl he started seeing before he had the sack to break up with me. We've all done weak things, it's just a matter of seeing it for yourself, admitting it and learning from it. shit, I still am.
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that is exactly my point. we agree on this. yet in your first post you said i was wrong. so who's the one getting personal? it's not that what i say is wrong, it's that you don't like the way i say it becos of your unfounded assumptions about me and my attitudes towards women.