"Breastfeeding Moms Protest H&M"

pearljamjen

Vedderfan10 wrote:

Then I shall bring a pineapple...I am not daft because I don't agree with you...ease up on your harsh words there...and I am not ashamed of my opinions or any stance I may take on an issue...My signature says it all - and I guess here it really does apply.

The fruit war is on!


And yeah, you need a reality check hun.

prism

pearljamjen wrote:

I agree! Reading this thread, I'm so baffled by some of the ignorant responses. They should be ashamed...if I ever meet animal and vedderfan at a meet-up I'll be tempted to throw an orange at their heads for being so daft. :rolleyes:

It has been said, you can't always plan for a newborn, you can only pump so much milk, a new mom shouldn't be a prisoner in her house, LOTS of people eat in public, why shouldn't a baby? A baby needs food when it needs food. If you have a problem with it, get over it!

thank you

you'd think by some of these responses that when a woman is breastfeeding in a public place that she stands up on a chair, whips off her shirt, then her bra, then proceeds to announce "everybody look at my boobies!"

i mean sure just cause that's what i used to do everytime i breastfed one of my kids in a public place

decides2dream

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

Neither have I. If I ever see a nipple while a woman is trying to breastfeed her child, I'll be quick to point out that the feeding works best when the nipple is in the child's mouth.

And yeah, one time a while before I had a child, I saw what looked like a woman trying to shove a baby under her sweatshirt. And then I realized she was just feeding it...lol.

I just think it's funny that breasts have become so sexualized that most people don't bat an eyelash at a nipple on a movie screen, but then are horrified by the idea of breastfeeding. :rolleyes:

i just don't *get* what is annoying, offensive, bothersome, etc...about a woman breastfeeding. how does it impact on anyone else's life, at ALL? and as i said earlier, i actually think it FAR 'healthier' for a child to see a woman breastfeeding and ask his/her mommy or daddy what the woman is doing and being told she is feeding her baby, how and why....makes much mopre sense than any other public display of breasts out there. i don't find it odd for older generations to question it b/c things were different for my mom's generation for example...but anyone under the age of say 50...yea, idon't get it. and for the record, my mother is quite the prude and i think she'd find public breastfeeding far more appropriate than ever getting to see a sexualized nipple on a movie screen.


btw - holy fuck please disregard my horrendous typos! hahahaha. i have a wireless keyboard and i think i need a new battery. letters don't 'register' when i type when the battery is on it's way out......

vedderfan10

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

I don't remember Janet Jackson breastfeeding a baby during the Super Bowl Halftime show.

I think I already addressed this, but you can't always count on a baby's schedule. (In fact, I just had to pause while writing this post because my 2 year old, who started sleeping through the night at 6 weeks, randomly woke up and started crying.) When you have a baby, life must go on and you have to take the baby with you.

Yet, somehow in the past (like ten years ago) women managed...managed to shop and have dinner without having to breastfeed. I am in no way implying that a woman has to be a "prisoner in her own home"...not an idea like that has entered my mind...Breastfeeding discretely in public is fine...like with a towel or blanket, but baring it for all to see just because you can? I do look away, and I do leave the immediate vicinity...no scenes are made and no comments are exchanged...

This issue (for me) is not about the health benefits of breast milk and I'm not saying women can't breastfeed in public. I am not immature or daft or need a reality check because I don't agree with your opinions. Nor am I making personal attacks...but I am who I am and say what I feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter dont mind...The women who get "militant" about this subject is what I find most annoying. Yeah, you can feed your kid. Big whoop...

Born.Mine.Die

Vedderfan10 wrote:

Yet, somehow in the past (like ten years ago) women managed...managed to shop and have dinner without having to breastfeed. I am in no way implying that a woman has to be a "prisoner in her own home"...not an idea like that has entered my mind...Breastfeeding discretely in public is fine...like with a towel or blanket, but baring it for all to see just because you can? I do look away, and I do leave the immediate vicinity...no scenes are made and no comments are exchanged...

Wow...
I agree...cover up! Thats almost all we ask..

Brain of J.Lo

Vedderfan10 wrote:

Yet, somehow in the past (like ten years ago) women managed...managed to shop and have dinner without having to breastfeed. I am in no way implying that a woman has to be a "prisoner in her own home"...not an idea like that has entered my mind...Breastfeeding discretely in public is fine...like with a towel or blanket, but baring it for all to see just because you can? I do look away, and I do leave the immediate vicinity...no scenes are made and no comments are exchanged...

I have literally never seen anyone breastfeed in public without being discreet.

For a long time, formula was erroneously viewed and promoted as the healthier option. A lot more mothers are choosing to breastfeed than they were ten years or so ago. More breastfeeding mothers = more mothers breastfeeding in public.

decides2dream

Vedderfan10 wrote:

Yet, somehow in the past (like ten years ago) women managed...managed to shop and have dinner without having to breastfeed. I am in no way implying that a woman has to be a "prisoner in her own home"...not an idea like that has entered my mind...Breastfeeding discretely in public is fine...like with a towel or blanket, but baring it for all to see just because you can? I do look away, and I do leave the immediate vicinity...no scenes are made and no comments are exchanged...

hmmmmm...never in my life have i seen a woman breastfeed in ANY manner besides discreetly. you either live in an area with a high # of exhibitionist women ...or simply some were publicly out to make a point? out at any mall, wherever...discretion is always the norm. the average woman does NOT want to draw attention to herself, she just wants to feed her baby. for the rare people you might encoutner, odd to say the least...but again, i far rather allow that than disallow the right to breastfeed publicly.

Brain of J.Lo

decides2dream wrote:

i just don't *get* what is annoying, offensive, bothersome, etc...about a woman breastfeeding. how does it impact on anyone else's life, at ALL? and as i said earlier, i actually think it FAR 'healthier' for a child to see a woman breastfeeding and ask his/her mommy or daddy what the woman is doing and being told she is feeding her baby, how and why....makes much mopre sense than any other public display of breasts out there. i don't find it odd for older generations to question it b/c things were different for my mom's generation for example...but anyone under the age of say 50...yea, idon't get it. and for the record, my mother is quite the prude and i think she'd find public breastfeeding far more appropriate than ever getting to see a sexualized nipple on a movie screen.


btw - holy fuck please disregard my horrendous typos! hahahaha. i have a wireless keyboard and i think i need a new battery. letters don't 'register' when i type when the battery is on it's way out......

I agree that it's healthier for a child to see breastfeeding than to hide it. My daughter already knows that breasts feed babies, because when she points to my chest and notices that there is something there that she doesn't have (breasts, lol), she asks "what's that?" I wasn't going to say "well, those are my hooters, honey. Daddy likes it when I wear low-cut tops." I tell her what they are, and what they're for...just like I do with anything else she asks about, lol.

Brain of J.Lo

Born.Mine.Die wrote:

Wow...
I agree...cover up! Thats almost all we ask..

Where are you people seeing a bunch of topless women running around feeding their kids? What exactly do you see that isn't covered?

decides2dream

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

Where are you people seeing a bunch of topless women running around feeding their kids? What exactly do you see that isn't covered?

i believe a good 10 years ago it was made legal in NYC for a woman to walk around topless, feeding a baby or not. i have not once seen a woman do so, however.

Brain of J.Lo

decides2dream wrote:

i believe a good 10 years ago it was made legal in NYC for a woman to walk around topless, feeding a baby or not. i have not once seen a woman do so, however.

I remember hearing about that! lol

pearljamjen

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

Where are you people seeing a bunch of topless women running around feeding their kids? What exactly do you see that isn't covered?

That's what I want to know! As it has been stated, most women cover with a blanket, and the BABY'S HEAD!! (DUH!) And they even have special clothes. Some people really need to get a clue. :rolleyes:

pearljamjen

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

I agree that it's healthier for a child to see breastfeeding than to hide it. My daughter already knows that breasts feed babies, because when she points to my chest and notices that there is something there that she doesn't have (breasts, lol), she asks "what's that?" I wasn't going to say "well, those are my hooters, honey. Daddy likes it when I wear low-cut tops." I tell her what they are, and what they're for...just like I do with anything else she asks about, lol.

HAHA!! You COULD point down there and say "this is my money maker" and point at your breasts and say "this is what I flashed on that video of 'girls gone wild!'"

vedderfan10

Edited my post on previous page...

Well, the situation in Vancouver and the breast-in in my community involve an awful lot of women who do not cover up...Lift their lulu lemon or MEC (like REI) and bare it all, this is almost the norm...And yeah, I went to a friend's place with a bunch of their friends (who we'd never met before) and we were all having breakfast around the table, and the mother of the baby just whipped out her boob, stuck the kid on and carried on talking...EVERYONE else was very uncomfortable...but that was clearly our problem...Oh my god! I was traumatized by a boob!!

prism

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

I have literally never seen anyone breastfeed in public without being discreet.

exactly.... most breastfeeding Moms keep a receiving blanket in the diaper bag just a they would diapers knowing that the baby may have to eat while they're out...at least i always did and everyone else i've ever seen nursing their baby in a public place


where did it even say in the orginal story that this Mom was exposing her breast for everyone to see?

Brain of J.Lo

Vedderfan10 wrote:

YThe women who get "militant" about this subject is what I find most annoying. Yeah, you can feed your kid. Big whoop...

The reason some people feel the need to be militant about, it is because mothers are often greeted with intolerance. The only way society is ever going to become reacquainted with the *actual* function of breasts is if they are confronted with it.

decides2dream

Vedderfan10 wrote:

Edited my post on previous page...

Well, the situation in Vancouver and the breast-in in my community involve an awful lot of women who do not cover up...Lift their lulu lemon or MEC (like REI) and bare it all, this is almost the norm...And yeah, I went to a friend's place with a bunch of their friends (who we'd never met before) and we were all having breakfast around the table, and the mother of the baby just whipped out her boob, stuck the kid on and carried on talking...EVERYONE else was very uncomfortable...but that was clearly our problem...Oh my god! I was traumatized by a boob!!

well, that IS odd but as you just said, seems the norm in your community/area, so i guess most aren't uncomfortable with it. i would find it odd to say the least ...but whatever. we are just so far removed from breasts being used for feeding that it makes us 'uncomfortable' and really, it shouldn't. obviously tribal cultures still walk around topless, both sexes, etc. obviously cutural and societal differences, degrees of modesty, prudishness, etc. if you were 'traumatized' by a boob, i would say that is your problem. being uncomfortable, i undertstnad...most of us are when in a new situation, exposure, etc. however, i still rather that than ever see public breastfeeding made illegal. as with all things, there are always some who take it to another level. i accept that, am ok with it, b/c i think the greater good is served by it's legality, and more and more people getting comfortable with it, etc. talking about extremes is not completely the 'norm'...and even if they 'whip it out' for a moment, soon enough a big fat baby head blocks the view in any case. c'est la vie......

Brain of J.Lo

Vedderfan10 wrote:

Edited my post on previous page...

Well, the situation in Vancouver and the breast-in in my community involve an awful lot of women who do not cover up...Lift their lulu lemon or MEC (like REI) and bare it all, this is almost the norm...And yeah, I went to a friend's place with a bunch of their friends (who we'd never met before) and we were all having breakfast around the table, and the mother of the baby just whipped out her boob, stuck the kid on and carried on talking...EVERYONE else was very uncomfortable...but that was clearly our problem...Oh my god! I was traumatized by a boob!!

A situation like you describe -- a protest -- isn't exactly the same as a woman feeding a hungry baby while going about her weekly errands. If they are being indiscreet in this situation, it is obviously for a purpose... But most women who are trying to feed an infant while accomplishing one or two other things simultaneously don't have the time to think about making a political statement.

Why was seeing a boob for a few seconds so traumatic? Do you feel uncomfortable when you see nudity in a movie?

vedderfan10

Well, we're all just a bunch of dope smoking hippies in BC...Clothing optional!

There are some women who breast feed in the wide open just to cause a stir and then get extremely confrontational and defensive if someone dare suggest they might like a blanket...I agree...don't often see breastfeeding in public and most of the time I don't notice because I don't go around looking for it...but these women who make a big stink about it...whatever...it's not about YOU, it's about feeding your freakin' baby! Those sorts are the ones that wrinkle my rankle!

prism

decides2dream wrote:

well, that IS odd but as you just said, seems the norm in your community/area, so i guess most aren't uncomfortable with it. i would find it odd to say the least ...but whatever. we are just so far removed from breasts being used for feeding that it makes us 'uncomfortable' and really, it shouldn't. obviously tribal cultures still walk around topless, both sexes, etc. obviously cutural and societal differences, degrees of modesty, prudishness, etc. if you were 'traumatized' by a boob, i would say that is your problem. being uncomfortable, i undertstnad...most of us are when in a new situation, exposure, etc. however, i still rather that than ever see public breastfeeding made illegal. as with all things, there are always some who take it to another level. i accept that, am ok with it, b/c i think the greater good is served by it's legality, and more and more people getting comfortable with it, etc. talking about extremes is not completely the 'norm'...and even if they 'whip it out' for a moment, soon enough a big fat baby head blocks the view in any case. c'est la vie......

i'm starting to think that some people rather than know that there's a breast hiding behind that nursing baby prefer to listen to that baby scream it's big fat baby head off until Mom takes it home to feed it rather than upset there puritanical lil world