anyways i think whats going on here is that some of you guys dont understand what its like here in vancouver, and i didnt really realize it until this thread, but i guess its going on here more often than wherever y'all are from. im from here and walk around malls and outdoors a lot, and in defense of vedderfan10, i do see a lot of suckling babies, with the mother not covering anything. just the side boob or full boob with the baby stuck on it. my girlfriend sees it too. i think its just a difference of location and practice. it can make some people awkward and you guys have to understand that at least. i say, feed the baby, but put the cape or whatever on and have the little one drink/eat under there. of course they can feed in public, but i guess vancouver women are a little more free with the boobs.
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There are some women who breast feed in the wide open just to cause a stir and then get extremely confrontational and defensive if someone dare suggest they might like a blanket...I agree...don't often see breastfeeding in public and most of the time I don't notice because I don't go around looking for it...but these women who make a big stink about it...whatever...it's not about YOU, it's about feeding your freakin' baby! Those sorts are the ones that wrinkle my rankle!
there is always 'some' whatever...in any group, any situation. also, you now state what many/most have been saying here all along. so basically, you do agree...it's a non-issue since most DO so discreetly, etc. you don't notice it b/c most ARE discreet. earlier posts did not present this view, at all. saying you find breastfeeding 'annoying' strikes me as an odd comment as best. and hey, i am all for verying opinions, more power to ya! just like most things tho, i am glad that most of these kinds of opinions do not affect the law. you're in canuck-land in any case.
anyways i think whats going on here is that some of you guys dont understand what its like here in vancouver, and i didnt really realize it until this thread, but i guess its going on here more often than wherever y'all are from. im from here and walk around malls and outdoors a lot, and in defense of vedderfan10, i do see a lot of suckling babies, with the mother not covering anything. just the side boob or full boob with the baby stuck on it. my girlfriend sees it too. i think its just a difference of location and practice. it can make some people awkward and you guys have to understand that at least. i say, feed the baby, but put the cape or whatever on and have the little one drink/eat under there. of course they can feed in public, but i guess vancouver women are a little more free with the boobs.
firstly, hey there!
secondly, definitely sounds like a different environment, but still...none the less, i still don't get the 'big deal' of it. sure, first couple times might be disconcerting, but i don't see a problem with it even like that. that's what they are meant for, and yea...i don't personally have a problem with it, even if it were like that everywhere. might actually be 'good' to see em as nature intended more often. seriously tho, seems like you do have a freer, more open environment thewre....not a bad thing, and obviously, a-ok for most.
Well, we're all just a bunch of dope smoking hippies in BC...Clothing optional!
There are some women who breast feed in the wide open just to cause a stir and then get extremely confrontational and defensive if someone dare suggest they might like a blanket...I agree...don't often see breastfeeding in public and most of the time I don't notice because I don't go around looking for it...but these women who make a big stink about it...whatever...it's not about YOU, it's about feeding your freakin' baby! Those sorts are the ones that wrinkle my rankle!
But ultimately, it becomes about the mother, rather than the baby. The mother is the one who is chastised, belittled, questioned, etc. when a situation does arise. No one picks on the baby for being hungry. They just reprimand the mother for the way she is feeding the baby.
Why was seeing a boob for a few seconds so traumatic? Do you feel uncomfortable when you see nudity in a movie?
Because it was...I dunno...it was...well, none of us knew where to look..and it was for more than a few seconds. She didn't even try to cover up after she uncovered..the rest of us were "Oh! Is that a bird outside!" "Crap! I dropped my fork!" 'My foot itches" "I think I heard the dog throw up outside!" It was obvious everyone was uncomfortable and she was so oblivious to it...it kinda felt it was a private moment between her and her baby and we shouldn't have been there....Now, had we been at her house, well, that would be something we'd need to get over, I guess. I won't even considering telling someone how to behave in their own home...
anyways i think whats going on here is that some of you guys dont understand what its like here in vancouver, and i didnt really realize it until this thread, but i guess its going on here more often than wherever y'all are from. im from here and walk around malls and outdoors a lot, and in defense of vedderfan10, i do see a lot of suckling babies, with the mother not covering anything. just the side boob or full boob with the baby stuck on it. my girlfriend sees it too. i think its just a difference of location and practice. it can make some people awkward and you guys have to understand that at least. i say, feed the baby, but put the cape or whatever on and have the little one drink/eat under there. of course they can feed in public, but i guess vancouver women are a little more free with the boobs.
In most of the world outside of the US, people are more free with the boob. And in most of the world, no one bats an eyelash.
Because it was...I dunno...it was...well, none of us knew where to look..and it was for more than a few seconds. She didn't even try to cover up after she uncovered..the rest of us were "Oh! Is that a bird outside!" "Crap! I dropped my fork!" 'My foot itches" "I think I heard the dog throw up outside!" It was obvious everyone was uncomfortable and she was so oblivious to it...it kinda felt it was a private moment between her and her baby and we shouldn't have been there....Now, had we been at her house, well, that would be something we'd need to get over, I guess. I won't even considering telling someone how to behave in their own home...
You didn't know where to look? What would you have been looking at if her breast wasn't exposed? That might have been a good start.
I like that she was so cavalier about it. Maybe next time that happens, you and the rest of the people in your group won't be so surprised or uncomfortable.
anyways i think whats going on here is that some of you guys dont understand what its like here in vancouver, and i didnt really realize it until this thread, but i guess its going on here more often than wherever y'all are from. im from here and walk around malls and outdoors a lot, and in defense of vedderfan10, i do see a lot of suckling babies, with the mother not covering anything. just the side boob or full boob with the baby stuck on it. my girlfriend sees it too. i think its just a difference of location and practice. it can make some people awkward and you guys have to understand that at least. i say, feed the baby, but put the cape or whatever on and have the little one drink/eat under there. of course they can feed in public, but i guess vancouver women are a little more free with the boobs.
i've never once in Vancouver seen any Mom breastfeeding her kid without being covered.....nor ever when i was living in Victoria and at that time i was breastfeeding my son.
maybe these women are just leaving their boobs hanging out just because they know it'll upset you and vedderfan10
maybe these women are just leaving their boobs hanging out just because they know it'll upset you and vedderfan10
Yes...it's a big conspiracy...they do it just to piss me off (and restlesssoul)...those women and their swinging udders!
Of course breastfeeding isn't about me...I'd rather waste my time on yelling at people who think the local dog park is their ashtray...do they not know that puppies eat everything that's on the ground....not that I have a puppy, but other people do....
Seriously...breastfeed your kids...toddlers with food smeared all over their faces and all in their hair...That can really make me queasy....even when I was a toddler myself, actually. And yes, I look away...or move to another table...Since I've been on the meds and have a new outlook on life, I'm not so confrontational...
Boobs for everyone!!!
And with that...me and my ample non-lactating breasts are going to hit the hay...It's been fun! I still think you're all cool...but I will be bringing pineapples to the next meet up ...
should people start demanding that all women going to the beach wear a cape too? afterall they might happen to see the side of a boobie!
HAHA! I laughed when I read that. I pictured nursing moms every where dressed as super-heroes with a cape!
Yeah...and I laughed when vedderfan said he was traumatized by seeing a breast. If that's the case then I feel quite sorry for his girlfriend/wife. Or if she is a woman, I wonder what she does when she looks in the mirror! :eek:
And with that...me and my ample non-lactating breasts are going to hit the hay...It's been fun! I still think you're all cool...but I will be bringing pineapples to the next meet up ...
Were you at the meet-up for the EV shows in Van in April? If so, I KNEW I shoulda packed extra fruit in my suitcase. Next time, then.
Yeah...and I laughed when vedderfan said he was traumatized by seeing a breast. If that's the case then I feel quite sorry for his girlfriend/wife. Or if she is a woman, I wonder what she does when she looks in the mirror! :eek:
Vedderfan10 is very much a she...and I was joking about being traumatized...having never seen a woman breastfeeding at a table full of people who were obviously very uncomfortable, we were all kind of shocked, I guess. And it was so completely unexpected! I think we all wanted to laugh...and actually, it's something that our friends (who's place it was) and us joke about all the time (esp. now that they have their own kid)...
What do I do when I look in a mirror? Why, I wear a cape. My Looking In the Mirror cape...
Were you at the meet-up for the EV shows in Van in April? If so, I KNEW I shoulda packed extra fruit in my suitcase. Next time, then.
I organized the meet-up (with much help from some really cool people) in Vancouver...why do you ask? Were you breastfeeding? Did I glare at you? Well, next time I'll be wearing my Hiding Fruit Under my Cape cape...be on guard!
HAHA! I laughed when I read that. I pictured nursing moms every where dressed as super-heroes with a cape!
Yeah...and I laughed when vedderfan said he was traumatized by seeing a breast. If that's the case then I feel quite sorry for his girlfriend/wife. Or if she is a woman, I wonder what she does when she looks in the mirror! :eek:
i know...and it's so not fair...i never got a cape when i was nursing my kids...all i ever got were some medals that said "Super Mom" that attached to my nipple rings!
i know...and it's so not fair...i never got a cape when i was nursing my kids...all i ever got were some medals that said "Super Mom" that attached to my nipple rings!
SUPER MOM! dah dah dah dah Mommy power!
haha nipple rings huh? I wonder what animal and vedderfan would say?
I organized the meet-up (with much help from some really cool people) in Vancouver...why do you ask? Were you breastfeeding? Did I glare at you? Well, next time I'll be wearing my Hiding Fruit Under my Cape cape...be on guard!
I wasn't breastfeeding; just walking around letting them hang out just for the heck of it. got me some free drinks it did.
My fruit-throwing skills are the best...so look out!
I don't have a problem with breastfeeding. If I see a woman breastfeeding, I just turn my head. It's fairly simple.
But I don't really agree with the angry breastfeeding moms protesting in front of the store. A talk with the manager probably would have solved the problem, especially if H&M has a policy that allows breastfeeding. If not, further steps are still possible.
Yes, breastfeeding is natural but as someone pointed out many things are. If you talk to a naturist, he'll tell you it's perfectly normal and natural to walk around naked. And he's right too. Yet society seems to have a problem with that, it's even illegal.
My point is that although it's natural and normal, some people will not like it and disagree and these people are not ignorant. And a little respect from both sides is appropriate and I think this is the case most of the time. If it's not, is it really necessary to gather a bunch of breastfeeding women to protest? Or sue :rolleyes:
I think if she sues her real motives become apparent.
I have literally never seen anyone breastfeed in public without being discreet.
For a long time, formula was erroneously viewed and promoted as the healthier option. A lot more mothers are choosing to breastfeed than they were ten years or so ago. More breastfeeding mothers = more mothers breastfeeding in public.
hmmmmm...never in my life have i seen a woman breastfeed in ANY manner besides discreetly. you either live in an area with a high # of exhibitionist women ...or simply some were publicly out to make a point? out at any mall, wherever...discretion is always the norm. the average woman does NOT want to draw attention to herself, she just wants to feed her baby. for the rare people you might encoutner, odd to say the least...but again, i far rather allow that than disallow the right to breastfeed publicly.
Except for the topics here where woman hold a breastfeeding sit-in and become a spectacle on their own. :rolleyes:
Discretely, I don't think anyone here has a problem with. It is the lets gather as many breastfeeding woman with their babies together to make a point. Come one, there are far worse things in this world to focus your energy on. Cover up and don't do it in masses and all is well.
You didn't know where to look? What would you have been looking at if her breast wasn't exposed? That might have been a good start.
I like that she was so cavalier about it. Maybe next time that happens, you and the rest of the people in your group won't be so surprised or uncomfortable.
See, and I see it differently; the mother was extremely rude to her guests.
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anyways i think whats going on here is that some of you guys dont understand what its like here in vancouver, and i didnt really realize it until this thread, but i guess its going on here more often than wherever y'all are from. im from here and walk around malls and outdoors a lot, and in defense of vedderfan10, i do see a lot of suckling babies, with the mother not covering anything. just the side boob or full boob with the baby stuck on it. my girlfriend sees it too. i think its just a difference of location and practice. it can make some people awkward and you guys have to understand that at least. i say, feed the baby, but put the cape or whatever on and have the little one drink/eat under there. of course they can feed in public, but i guess vancouver women are a little more free with the boobs.
there is always 'some' whatever...in any group, any situation. also, you now state what many/most have been saying here all along. so basically, you do agree...it's a non-issue since most DO so discreetly, etc. you don't notice it b/c most ARE discreet. earlier posts did not present this view, at all. saying you find breastfeeding 'annoying' strikes me as an odd comment as best. and hey, i am all for verying opinions, more power to ya! just like most things tho, i am glad that most of these kinds of opinions do not affect the law.
btw - breastfeeding ain't about YOU either.
firstly, hey there!
secondly, definitely sounds like a different environment, but still...none the less, i still don't get the 'big deal' of it. sure, first couple times might be disconcerting, but i don't see a problem with it even like that. that's what they are meant for, and yea...i don't personally have a problem with it, even if it were like that everywhere. might actually be 'good' to see em as nature intended more often.
Let's just breathe...
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But ultimately, it becomes about the mother, rather than the baby. The mother is the one who is chastised, belittled, questioned, etc. when a situation does arise. No one picks on the baby for being hungry. They just reprimand the mother for the way she is feeding the baby.
Because it was...I dunno...it was...well, none of us knew where to look..and it was for more than a few seconds. She didn't even try to cover up after she uncovered..the rest of us were "Oh! Is that a bird outside!" "Crap! I dropped my fork!" 'My foot itches" "I think I heard the dog throw up outside!" It was obvious everyone was uncomfortable and she was so oblivious to it...it kinda felt it was a private moment between her and her baby and we shouldn't have been there....Now, had we been at her house, well, that would be something we'd need to get over, I guess. I won't even considering telling someone how to behave in their own home...
In most of the world outside of the US, people are more free with the boob. And in most of the world, no one bats an eyelash.
You didn't know where to look? What would you have been looking at if her breast wasn't exposed? That might have been a good start.
I like that she was so cavalier about it. Maybe next time that happens, you and the rest of the people in your group won't be so surprised or uncomfortable.
i've never once in Vancouver seen any Mom breastfeeding her kid without being covered.....nor ever when i was living in Victoria and at that time i was breastfeeding my son.
maybe these women are just leaving their boobs hanging out just because they know it'll upset you and vedderfan10
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trust me, im all for the boobs hanging out......just not with a kid slurping away.
B(.)(.)BS are good
but somehow not good for their intended purpose?
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no, they are good for that too, under a breastfeeding cape.
Yes...it's a big conspiracy...they do it just to piss me off (and restlesssoul)...those women and their swinging udders!
Of course breastfeeding isn't about me...I'd rather waste my time on yelling at people who think the local dog park is their ashtray...do they not know that puppies eat everything that's on the ground....not that I have a puppy, but other people do....
Seriously...breastfeed your kids...toddlers with food smeared all over their faces and all in their hair...That can really make me queasy....even when I was a toddler myself, actually. And yes, I look away...or move to another table...Since I've been on the meds and have a new outlook on life, I'm not so confrontational...
Boobs for everyone!!!
And with that...me and my ample non-lactating breasts are going to hit the hay...It's been fun! I still think you're all cool...but I will be bringing pineapples to the next meet up
what the hell is a breastfeeding cape?
should people start demanding that all women going to the beach wear a cape too? afterall they might happen to see the side of a boobie!
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HAHA! I laughed when I read that. I pictured nursing moms every where dressed as super-heroes with a cape!
Yeah...and I laughed when vedderfan said he was traumatized by seeing a breast. If that's the case then I feel quite sorry for his girlfriend/wife. Or if she is a woman, I wonder what she does when she looks in the mirror! :eek:
Were you at the meet-up for the EV shows in Van in April? If so, I KNEW I shoulda packed extra fruit in my suitcase. Next time, then.
Vedderfan10 is very much a she...and I was joking about being traumatized...having never seen a woman breastfeeding at a table full of people who were obviously very uncomfortable, we were all kind of shocked, I guess. And it was so completely unexpected! I think we all wanted to laugh...and actually, it's something that our friends (who's place it was) and us joke about all the time (esp. now that they have their own kid)...
What do I do when I look in a mirror? Why, I wear a cape. My Looking In the Mirror cape...
I organized the meet-up (with much help from some really cool people) in Vancouver...why do you ask? Were you breastfeeding? Did I glare at you? Well, next time I'll be wearing my Hiding Fruit Under my Cape cape...be on guard!
i know...and it's so not fair...i never got a cape when i was nursing my kids...all i ever got were some medals that said "Super Mom" that attached to my nipple rings!
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SUPER MOM! dah dah dah dah Mommy power!
haha nipple rings huh? I wonder what animal and vedderfan would say?
My fruit-throwing skills are the best...so look out!
animal will probably tell you "that's hot" and I'm gonna say..."whatever floats your boat"...and "owwwwwch".
I bet you got some free drinks...and Richard's Street is certainly the place for that type of behaviour. Capes are discouraged...
And...I used to shot-put pineapples in high school...but if you're that good...maybe I better bring out my melons!
OK...I'm really tired...I have to go...
i guess now no one will ever know what they would say since i had them removed after i stopped nursing the youngest kidlet
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But I don't really agree with the angry breastfeeding moms protesting in front of the store. A talk with the manager probably would have solved the problem, especially if H&M has a policy that allows breastfeeding. If not, further steps are still possible.
Yes, breastfeeding is natural but as someone pointed out many things are. If you talk to a naturist, he'll tell you it's perfectly normal and natural to walk around naked. And he's right too. Yet society seems to have a problem with that, it's even illegal.
My point is that although it's natural and normal, some people will not like it and disagree and these people are not ignorant. And a little respect from both sides is appropriate and I think this is the case most of the time. If it's not, is it really necessary to gather a bunch of breastfeeding women to protest? Or sue :rolleyes:
I think if she sues her real motives become apparent.
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use them, mothers
http://www.mothersdirect.com.au/prod498.htm
for mothers "who want to put those around them at ease"
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GOOD:
http://www.balterbaby.com/images/nursing-notions/cape/nurse-cape.jpg
BAD:
http://celebnotes.com/images/mg601.jpg
Discretely, I don't think anyone here has a problem with. It is the lets gather as many breastfeeding woman with their babies together to make a point. Come one, there are far worse things in this world to focus your energy on. Cover up and don't do it in masses and all is well.
Where's her cape? :eek:
That's a pretty cool story. Irrelevent to this discussion, but still pretty cool!
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