and no one has the right to tell me as a breastfeeding mother how to bring up my child.
Yes, that's why I've been for compromise since the beginning of this thread. That's why I said I think a little discretion goes a long way.
you dont get it do you collin. a brestfeeding mothers primary and only concern now that i think about it is feeding her child. shes not particularly interested in what others think of what she is doing. she is feeding her child just as those other parents are feeding theres. tis only the modus operandi that differs. and if parents cant answer a question about breastfeeding then they seriously need to reevaluate their skills.
I understand how important a child is to a mother. But having a child does not give you the right to trample over other people's right. The owner of a restaurant has the right to ask you to cover up. A boob is a boob, right? Perhaps you need to re-evaluate your breastfeeding skills if you can't feed your child with a blanket, or if you can't feed your child somewhere more private.
You are on someone's else property. Yes, you do have a right to feed your child but the owner has rights too.
Again, that's why I'm all for compromise and a little discretion.
I have been reading through this thread and jeez Collin you sure are taking a beating. I am with you on this one though, I agree that a mother has a right to feed her child but there really should be an amount of discretion involved. Respect is a two way thing and if you want respect as a mother who wants to breastfeed her child in public you should have respect for the people around you.
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Yes, that's why I've been for compromise since the beginning of this thread. That's why I said I think a little discretion goes a long way.
I understand how important a child is to a mother. But having a child does not give you the right to trample over other people's right. The owner of a restaurant has the right to ask you to cover up. A boob is a boob, right? Perhaps you need to re-evaluate your breastfeeding skills if you can't feed your child with a blanket, or if you can't feed your child somewhere more private.
You are on someone's else property. Yes, you do have a right to feed your child but the owner has rights too.
Again, that's why I'm all for compromise and a little discretion.
hmm collin there are so many things i want to say here, but i shall choose to use a massive amount of discretion so we can have a civilised conversation.
are restaurants and places where the PUBLIC gather really considered private property in the same sense as peoples homes? can a proprietor claim privacy the way a person in their home can? i think not.
have you actually seen a woman breastfeed in public? i have. and i have also actually perpetrated such a disgusting act. it has always been done and observed to be done with the utmost discretion. this was done clearly with people such as yourself in mind. nursing mothers are well aware of how narrrowminded and puritanical people can get when the breast is used for the sustinence of a child. tis like people are having their eyes poked out. and for what? why? and where does this attitude come from?
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I have been reading through this thread and jeez Collin you sure are taking a beating. I am with you on this one though, I agree that a mother has a right to feed her child but there really should be an amount of discretion involved. Respect is a two way thing and if you want respect as a mother who wants to breastfeed her child in public you should have respect for the people around you.
whoever said discretion is not required? what do you dissenters think? that a woman will just whip her massive lactating breast out for all to see(even those sensitive souls who ogle little miss perky tits bouncing topless along the sand) and attach her baby? discretion has always been the key. when you mention blankets, exactly what is it you mean by this? how do you think the mother, trying to juggle her child and eat her meal(if she is in the middle of it) whilst engaging in much needed conversation with her lover will accomplish this discretionary action? what happens if the blanket falls to the floor? is she obliged to retireve it upsetting her babys feeding to do so?
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whoever said discretion is not required? what do you dissenters think? that a woman will just whip her massive lactating breast out for all to see(even those sensitive souls who ogle little miss perky tits bouncing topless along the sand) and attach her baby? discretion has always been the key. when you mention blankets, exactly what is it you mean by this? how do you think the mother, trying to juggle her child and eat her meal(if she is in the middle of it) whilst engaging in much needed conversation with her lover will accomplish this discretionary action? what happens if the blanket falls to the floor? is she obliged to retireve it upsetting her babys feeding to do so?
I never mentioned blankets, all I said was descretion which could mean anything from just leaving a department store to find a quiet area that is more suitable.
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I never mentioned blankets, all I said was descretion which could mean anything from just leaving a department store to find a quiet area that is more suitable.
oh i know you didnt mention blankets. i am still pissed off with collin and so it carried over when i was replying to your post.
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oh i know you didnt mention blankets. i am still pissed off with collin and so it carried over when i was replying to your post.
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are restaurants and places where the PUBLIC gather really considered private property in the same sense as peoples homes? can a proprietor claim privacy the way a person in their home can? i think not.
Actually, yes. Here anyway. I don't know about Australia.
have you actually seen a woman breastfeed in public? i have. and i have also actually perpetrated such a disgusting act. it has always been done and observed to be done with the utmost discretion. this was done clearly with people such as yourself in mind. nursing mothers are well aware of how narrrowminded and puritanical people can get when the breast is used for the sustinence of a child. tis like people are having their eyes poked out. and for what? why? and where does this attitude come from?
Yes, I have seen women breastfeeding. In fact, I saw it last week, the mother was sitting on the couch that's right behind me as I type this. I actually went up to her hand her a bag she had asked for. I think it's sad you think it's a disgusting act, Cate. Really, it's very natural and normal.
Thanks for calling me narrowminded and puritanical. If you had read my posts you'd see I have no problem with breastfeeding. I do, however, acknowledge that some people do.
So before you judge me, you might actually want to read what I wrote.
whoever said discretion is not required? what do you dissenters think? that a woman will just whip her massive lactating breast out for all to see(even those sensitive souls who ogle little miss perky tits bouncing topless along the sand) and attach her baby? discretion has always been the key. when you mention blankets, exactly what is it you mean by this? how do you think the mother, trying to juggle her child and eat her meal(if she is in the middle of it) whilst engaging in much needed conversation with her lover will accomplish this discretionary action? what happens if the blanket falls to the floor? is she obliged to retireve it upsetting her babys feeding to do so?
I have seen women pull their breast out and left it completely exposed for quite a while before they actually put their child to it. As an adult I know to avert my eyes, but as a teenage boy I was mortally embarrassed - I guess that is a difficult feeling to describe to a woman. So really we are talking about two different types of mother, those who do use discretion (the vast majority) and those who have absolutely no regard for their surroundings and the people who may be there.
Actually, yes. Here anyway. I don't know about Australia.
Yes, I have seen women breastfeeding. In fact, I saw it last week, the mother was sitting on the couch that's right behind me as I type this. I actually went up to her hand her a bag she had asked for. I think it's sad you think it's a disgusting act, Cate. Really, it's very natural and normal.
i think its sad you thought i was serious. especially considering the tone and content of all my previous posts.
Thanks for calling me narrowminded and puritanical. If you had read my posts you'd see I have no problem with breastfeeding. I do, however, acknowledge that some people do.
So before you judge me, you might actually want to read what I wrote.
please show me where i wrote collin you are narrowminded and puritanical? i dont believe i did. i cannot help it if you misconstrue the target of my words as being you.
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whoever said discretion is not required? what do you dissenters think? that a woman will just whip her massive lactating breast out for all to see(even those sensitive souls who ogle little miss perky tits bouncing topless along the sand) and attach her baby? discretion has always been the key. when you mention blankets, exactly what is it you mean by this? how do you think the mother, trying to juggle her child and eat her meal(if she is in the middle of it) whilst engaging in much needed conversation with her lover will accomplish this discretionary action? what happens if the blanket falls to the floor? is she obliged to retireve it upsetting her babys feeding to do so?
Look, I never mentioned blanket until a few posts ago. I never said women should use blankets either.
All I asked is if using a blanket is that difficult to do when you're in a restaurant or whatever. Apparently it is.
And by the way if her lover is next to her I'd think he could help out, like putting the blanket in its place, picking it up when it falls... What kind of a father would let his partner handle that all on her own when he's just sitting there?
I have seen women pull their breast out and left it completely exposed for quite a while before they actually put their child to it. As an adult I know to avert my eyes, but as a teenage boy I was mortally embarrassed - I guess that is a difficult feeling to describe to a woman. So really we are talking about two different types of mother, those who do use discretion (the vast majority) and those who have absolutely no regard for their surroundings and the people who may be there.
oh yes ive had my breast out without my child attached. cause you what? sometimes you have to help the milk come. sometimes a baby will not attach itself until it can taste its mothers milk on the nipple. sometimes a tiny baby is overwhelmed by this large object that may well smother them and will not attach itself directly and so needs its mother help. and sometimes this happens while the breast is exposed swinging in the breeze.
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i think its sad you thought i was serious. especially considering the tone and content of all my previous posts.
Well, likewise.
please show me where i wrote collin you are narrowminded and puritanical? i dont believe i did. i cannot help it if you misconstrue the target of my words as being you.
So what did you mean with "people such as yourself ".
And yes, you can help it. I've got 200 pages right next to me on how to make your texts as clear as possible
Look, I never mentioned blanket until a few posts ago. I never said women should use blankets either.
All I asked is if using a blanket is that difficult to do when you're in a restaurant or whatever. Apparently it is.
And by the way if her lover is next to her I'd think he could help out, like putting the blanket in its place, picking it up when it falls... What kind of a father would let his partner handle that all on her own when he's just sitting there?
saometimes a blanket is a hindrance collin, thats all i meant. we want this to be as simple a procedure as possible to reduce stress for both mother and baby.
perhaps the father knows his partner well enough from experince to know that the dropped blanket is not a problem as far as she can see it. and men fussing around her will annoy her more than the tsk tsks of offended patrons. fuck knows the father of my children knew better than to 'come to my aid' whilst i was feeding his children unless i asked for it specifically.
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oh yes ive had my breast out without my child attached. cause you what? sometimes you have to help the milk come. sometimes a baby will not attach itself until it can taste its mothers milk on the nipple. sometimes a tiny baby is overwhelmed by this large object that may well smother them and will not attach itself directly and so needs its mother help. and sometimes this happens while the breast is exposed swinging in the breeze.
Funny how the vast majority of women manage just fine with showing some discretion, and really you wouldn't mind doing that while sitting a few feet away from a 14 year old boy whilst holding conversation? Well fair enough, I can't argue with that I guess.
saometimes a blanket is a hindrance collin, thats all i meant. we want this to be as simple a procedure as possible to reduce stress for both mother and baby.
perhaps the father knows his partner well enough from experince to know that the dropped blanket is not a problem as far as she can see it. and men fussing around her will annoy her more than the tsk tsks of offended patrons. fuck knows the father of my children knew better than to 'come to my aid' whilst i was feeding his children unless i asked for it specifically.
Fair enough, but it was you who said that a breastfeeding mother's primary and only concern is feeding her child.
But at the same times she needs to eat while feeding her daughter and talk to her partner as well?
So what did you mean with "people such as yourself ".
And yes, you can help it. I've got 200 pages right next to me on how to make your texts as clear as possible
this is what i said collin: have you actually seen a woman breastfeed in public? i have. and i have also actually perpetrated such a disgusting act. it has always been done and observed to be done with the utmost discretion. this was done clearly with people such as yourself in mind. nursing mothers are well aware of how narrrowminded and puritanical people can get when the breast is used for the sustinence of a child. tis like people are having their eyes poked out. and for what? why? and where does this attitude come from?
did you deliberately ignore the sentence before the one you quoted to boost your ire?
nope sorry collin as good as i am, i am beyond interpretting text for you. its a skill we all must learn. and learn correctly in order to avoid misconstruing someones intent.
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Funny how the vast majority of women manage just fine with showing some discretion, and really you wouldn't mind doing that while sitting a few feet away from a 14 year old boy whilst holding conversation? Well fair enough, I can't argue with that I guess.
is this 14 year old boy in my dining party?
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this is what i said collin: have you actually seen a woman breastfeed in public? i have. and i have also actually perpetrated such a disgusting act. it has always been done and observed to be done with the utmost discretion. this was done clearly with people such as yourself in mind. nursing mothers are well aware of how narrrowminded and puritanical people can get when the breast is used for the sustinence of a child. tis like people are having their eyes poked out. and for what? why? and where does this attitude come from?
did you deliberately ignore the sentence before the one you quoted to boost your ire?
nope sorry collin as good as i am, i am beyond interpretting text for you. its a skill we all must learn. and learn correctly in order to avoid misconstruing someones intent.
I read what you wrote. No, I didn't. (I didn't ignore ...)
it has always been done and observed to be done with the utmost discretion.
"this (= breastfeeding with utmost discretion) was done clearly with people such as yourself in mind. (I have repeatedly said I don't have a problem with it, that I look away, that I won't comment on it whether it is done discretely or not)."
And then you continue with:
nursing mothers are well aware (= could easily be linked to "done with people such as yourself in mind") of how narrrowminded and puritanical people can get when the breast is used for the sustinence of a child.
Sometimes, Cate, there's a misunderstanding regardless of how skilled a person is in writing clearly or interpreting text. In that case one can only ask for further explanation.
So, I still don't know what you mean by "people such as yourself", because the way I see it, it doesn't make sense.
Perhaps I should reminds you that English isn't my native language and I do miss certain things, nuances... that native speakers would pick up.
whats your point? that because my only concern is for my child therefore i cant eat or talk with my lover whilst attending to that concern?
i have many skills collin. one of them is multi-tasking.
You said it's a mother's only concern. If a mother can talk and eat while feeding her child, she can certainly put on blanket on her child as well. Perhaps she'll have to shut up for a moment (ay, there's the rub ) or maybe she'll have to put her fork down for a minute... but it should be possible.
I have seen women pull their breast out and left it completely exposed for quite a while before they actually put their child to it. As an adult I know to avert my eyes, but as a teenage boy I was mortally embarrassed - I guess that is a difficult feeling to describe to a woman. So really we are talking about two different types of mother, those who do use discretion (the vast majority) and those who have absolutely no regard for their surroundings and the people who may be there.
Isn't that funny because I've had exactly the same experience with men and their dicks.
Constantly showing them to me, dropping their pants and pissing in front of me, beating off in front of me.
I guess it's a difficult feeling to describe to a man. As an adult I've learned to make a big noise about it and name that perversion loudly and calmly but I can say that as a young girl I found it very distressing and extremely threatening.
So I guess we're talking about two different kinds of men also. Those that use discretion and those that are dirty, perverted letches with absolutely no regard for anybody but themselves and their own sexual gratification.
(And no I'm not joking, I'm deadly serious, just in case someone wants to come along and misread and assume and put words in my mouth yet again.)
Bottom line for me is, I don't judge all men by the bad behaviour of a few and as an adult I can even see that there are possibly reasons for such offensive behaviour. AND frankly I find a man exposing his penis not even in the same ball park as a woman exposing her breast in order to feed. I had to get over it, make a judgement call about each incident and the person involved and not allow it to colour my view of all men or place unreasonable expectations upon them. Maybe you could try doing the same?
it has always been done and observed to be done with the utmost discretion.
"this (= breastfeeding with utmost discretion) was done clearly with people such as yourself in mind. (I have repeatedly said I don't have a problem with it, that I look away, that I won't comment on it whether it is done discretely or not)."
And then you continue with:
nursing mothers are well aware (= could easily be linked to "done with people such as yourself in mind") of how narrrowminded and puritanical people can get when the breast is used for the sustinence of a child.
Sometimes, Cate, there's a misunderstanding regardless of how skilled a person is in writely clearly or interpreting text. In that case one can only ask for further explanation.
So, I still don't know what you mean by "people such as yourself", because the way I see it, it doesn't make sense.
Perhaps I should reminds you that English isn't my native language and I do miss certain things, nuances... that native speakers would pick up.
i am well aware that english is not your first language collin.
people such as yourself = people who have a problem with mothers breastfeeding in public. you have just stated that this is not the case in regards to your attitude. therefore i shall respectfully(in this instance) defer to my good graces and apologise for MY misunderstanding.
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You said it's a mother's only concern. If a mother can talk and eat while feeding her child, she can certainly put on blanket on her child as well. Perhaps she'll have to shut up for a moment (ay, there's the rub ) or maybe she'll have to put her fork down for a minute... but it should be possible.
i believe ive already addressed this issue collin.
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i am well aware that english is not your first language collin.
people such as yourself = people who have a problem with mothers breastfeeding in public. you have just stated that this is not the case. therefore i shall respectfully(in this instance) defer to my good graces and apologise for MY misunderstanding.
then no. why would i care? i have no doubt that a 14 year old familiar enough to me to dine with, would also be familiar enough with my breastfeeding to deal with it. tis only when we make a big deal out of something ii becomes so.
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Isn't that funny because I've had exactly the same experience with men and their dicks.
Constantly showing them to me, dropping their pants and pissing in front of me, beating off in front of me.
I guess it's a difficult feeling to describe to a man. As an adult I've learned to make a big noise about it and name that perversion loudly and calmly but I can say that as a young girl I found it very distressing and extremely threatening.
So I guess we're talking about two different kinds of men also. Those that use discretion and those that are dirty, perverted letches with absolutely no regard for anybody but themselves and their own sexual gratification.
I can't believe you possibly think the two situations are comparable.
Bottom line for me is, I don't judge all men by the bad behaviour of a few and as an adult I can even see that there are possibly reasons for such offensive behaviour. AND frankly I find a man exposing his penis not even in the same ball park as a woman exposing her breast in order to feed. I had to get over it, make a judgement call about each incident and the person involved and not allow it to colour my view of all men or place unreasonable expectations upon them. Maybe you could try doing the same?
And quite clearly I have done the same by stating that the vast majority of women do show discretion. This is possibly the most ridiculous post in this entire thread.
then no. why would i care? i have no doubt that a 14 year old familiar enough to me to dine with, would also be familiar enough with my breastfeeding to deal with it. tis only when we make a big deal out of something ii becomes so.
Well this all comes down to repect for other people's feelings, as an adult you would be able to deal with the awkwardness of the situation far better than a young teenage boy. And also, in this situation, you don't know them that well, in this situation they are say, your friend's son who has spent barely any time around you and has never seen you breastfeed.
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Yes, that's why I've been for compromise since the beginning of this thread. That's why I said I think a little discretion goes a long way.
I understand how important a child is to a mother. But having a child does not give you the right to trample over other people's right. The owner of a restaurant has the right to ask you to cover up. A boob is a boob, right? Perhaps you need to re-evaluate your breastfeeding skills if you can't feed your child with a blanket, or if you can't feed your child somewhere more private.
You are on someone's else property. Yes, you do have a right to feed your child but the owner has rights too.
Again, that's why I'm all for compromise and a little discretion.
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hmm collin there are so many things i want to say here, but i shall choose to use a massive amount of discretion so we can have a civilised conversation.
are restaurants and places where the PUBLIC gather really considered private property in the same sense as peoples homes? can a proprietor claim privacy the way a person in their home can? i think not.
have you actually seen a woman breastfeed in public? i have. and i have also actually perpetrated such a disgusting act. it has always been done and observed to be done with the utmost discretion. this was done clearly with people such as yourself in mind. nursing mothers are well aware of how narrrowminded and puritanical people can get when the breast is used for the sustinence of a child. tis like people are having their eyes poked out. and for what? why? and where does this attitude come from?
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whoever said discretion is not required? what do you dissenters think? that a woman will just whip her massive lactating breast out for all to see(even those sensitive souls who ogle little miss perky tits bouncing topless along the sand) and attach her baby? discretion has always been the key. when you mention blankets, exactly what is it you mean by this? how do you think the mother, trying to juggle her child and eat her meal(if she is in the middle of it) whilst engaging in much needed conversation with her lover will accomplish this discretionary action? what happens if the blanket falls to the floor? is she obliged to retireve it upsetting her babys feeding to do so?
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I never mentioned blankets, all I said was descretion which could mean anything from just leaving a department store to find a quiet area that is more suitable.
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oh i know you didnt mention blankets. i am still pissed off with collin and so it carried over when i was replying to your post.
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Actually, yes. Here anyway. I don't know about Australia.
Yes, I have seen women breastfeeding. In fact, I saw it last week, the mother was sitting on the couch that's right behind me as I type this. I actually went up to her hand her a bag she had asked for. I think it's sad you think it's a disgusting act, Cate. Really, it's very natural and normal.
Thanks for calling me narrowminded and puritanical. If you had read my posts you'd see I have no problem with breastfeeding. I do, however, acknowledge that some people do.
So before you judge me, you might actually want to read what I wrote.
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I have seen women pull their breast out and left it completely exposed for quite a while before they actually put their child to it. As an adult I know to avert my eyes, but as a teenage boy I was mortally embarrassed - I guess that is a difficult feeling to describe to a woman. So really we are talking about two different types of mother, those who do use discretion (the vast majority) and those who have absolutely no regard for their surroundings and the people who may be there.
i think its sad you thought i was serious. especially considering the tone and content of all my previous posts.
please show me where i wrote collin you are narrowminded and puritanical? i dont believe i did. i cannot help it if you misconstrue the target of my words as being you.
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Look, I never mentioned blanket until a few posts ago. I never said women should use blankets either.
All I asked is if using a blanket is that difficult to do when you're in a restaurant or whatever. Apparently it is.
And by the way if her lover is next to her I'd think he could help out, like putting the blanket in its place, picking it up when it falls... What kind of a father would let his partner handle that all on her own when he's just sitting there?
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oh yes ive had my breast out without my child attached. cause you what? sometimes you have to help the milk come. sometimes a baby will not attach itself until it can taste its mothers milk on the nipple. sometimes a tiny baby is overwhelmed by this large object that may well smother them and will not attach itself directly and so needs its mother help. and sometimes this happens while the breast is exposed swinging in the breeze.
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Well, likewise.
So what did you mean with "people such as yourself ".
And yes, you can help it. I've got 200 pages right next to me on how to make your texts as clear as possible
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saometimes a blanket is a hindrance collin, thats all i meant. we want this to be as simple a procedure as possible to reduce stress for both mother and baby.
perhaps the father knows his partner well enough from experince to know that the dropped blanket is not a problem as far as she can see it. and men fussing around her will annoy her more than the tsk tsks of offended patrons. fuck knows the father of my children knew better than to 'come to my aid' whilst i was feeding his children unless i asked for it specifically.
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Funny how the vast majority of women manage just fine with showing some discretion, and really you wouldn't mind doing that while sitting a few feet away from a 14 year old boy whilst holding conversation? Well fair enough, I can't argue with that I guess.
Fair enough, but it was you who said that a breastfeeding mother's primary and only concern is feeding her child.
But at the same times she needs to eat while feeding her daughter and talk to her partner as well?
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this is what i said collin:
have you actually seen a woman breastfeed in public? i have. and i have also actually perpetrated such a disgusting act. it has always been done and observed to be done with the utmost discretion. this was done clearly with people such as yourself in mind. nursing mothers are well aware of how narrrowminded and puritanical people can get when the breast is used for the sustinence of a child. tis like people are having their eyes poked out. and for what? why? and where does this attitude come from?
did you deliberately ignore the sentence before the one you quoted to boost your ire?
nope sorry collin as good as i am, i am beyond interpretting text for you. its a skill we all must learn. and learn correctly in order to avoid misconstruing someones intent.
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is this 14 year old boy in my dining party?
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whats your point? that because my only concern is for my child therefore i cant eat or talk with my lover whilst attending to that concern?
i have many skills collin. one of them is multi-tasking.
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I read what you wrote. No, I didn't. (I didn't ignore ...)
it has always been done and observed to be done with the utmost discretion.
"this (= breastfeeding with utmost discretion) was done clearly with people such as yourself in mind. (I have repeatedly said I don't have a problem with it, that I look away, that I won't comment on it whether it is done discretely or not)."
And then you continue with:
nursing mothers are well aware (= could easily be linked to "done with people such as yourself in mind") of how narrrowminded and puritanical people can get when the breast is used for the sustinence of a child.
Sometimes, Cate, there's a misunderstanding regardless of how skilled a person is in writing clearly or interpreting text. In that case one can only ask for further explanation.
So, I still don't know what you mean by "people such as yourself", because the way I see it, it doesn't make sense.
Perhaps I should reminds you that English isn't my native language and I do miss certain things, nuances... that native speakers would pick up.
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You said it's a mother's only concern. If a mother can talk and eat while feeding her child, she can certainly put on blanket on her child as well. Perhaps she'll have to shut up for a moment (ay, there's the rub
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Isn't that funny because I've had exactly the same experience with men and their dicks.
Constantly showing them to me, dropping their pants and pissing in front of me, beating off in front of me.
I guess it's a difficult feeling to describe to a man. As an adult I've learned to make a big noise about it and name that perversion loudly and calmly but I can say that as a young girl I found it very distressing and extremely threatening.
So I guess we're talking about two different kinds of men also. Those that use discretion and those that are dirty, perverted letches with absolutely no regard for anybody but themselves and their own sexual gratification.
(And no I'm not joking, I'm deadly serious, just in case someone wants to come along and misread and assume and put words in my mouth yet again.)
Bottom line for me is, I don't judge all men by the bad behaviour of a few and as an adult I can even see that there are possibly reasons for such offensive behaviour. AND frankly I find a man exposing his penis not even in the same ball park as a woman exposing her breast in order to feed. I had to get over it, make a judgement call about each incident and the person involved and not allow it to colour my view of all men or place unreasonable expectations upon them. Maybe you could try doing the same?
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i am well aware that english is not your first language collin.
people such as yourself = people who have a problem with mothers breastfeeding in public. you have just stated that this is not the case in regards to your attitude. therefore i shall respectfully(in this instance) defer to my good graces and apologise for MY misunderstanding.
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i believe ive already addressed this issue collin.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
For the sake of this example, yes.
No problem.
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then no. why would i care? i have no doubt that a 14 year old familiar enough to me to dine with, would also be familiar enough with my breastfeeding to deal with it. tis only when we make a big deal out of something ii becomes so.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I can't believe you possibly think the two situations are comparable.
And quite clearly I have done the same by stating that the vast majority of women do show discretion. This is possibly the most ridiculous post in this entire thread.
Well this all comes down to repect for other people's feelings, as an adult you would be able to deal with the awkwardness of the situation far better than a young teenage boy. And also, in this situation, you don't know them that well, in this situation they are say, your friend's son who has spent barely any time around you and has never seen you breastfeed.