hey, lbc, if you're out there...tito is on "celebrity apprentice" tonight!
Thanks Mook , I watched it on tivo. I'm kind of a realty show wacko.
My early prediction is Gene Simmons wins it, because that guy could sell ice to eskimos!! LOL
same here on the reality show thing, lbc. i look forward to seeing more of tito as the show goes on. i hope he goes far into the season. oh, and gene simmons was making no sense with the people he was calling. crazy how many wealthy people one man can know and convince to do things. ice to eskimos, indeed!
so, i'm still a little perplexed about why griffin vs. guida isn't getting more recognition than it has. seems strange as many were calling it the potential fight of the year afterward. so mmaweekly.com also has a poll set up with the following results after close to 30,000 votes. again, i'm shocked to see griffin vs. guida at only 2 %. there's some great matches on the list, but even griffin vs. edgar is polling low. maybe i just have a bias for the LW's. in any case, it's nice to see tyson griffin nominated for all three of his fights, and clay guida nominated for two of his. both are well deserving guys.
MATT SERRA CONFIRMS HE IS FIGHTING GSP
Friday, January 04, 2008
MMAWeekly.com
Matt Serra on Friday confirmed to NBCSports.com that he will meet Georges St-Pierre for the Ultimate Fighting Championship welterweight title when the UFC makes its Canadian debut in April in Montreal.
Serra defeated St-Pierre for the title in Houston in April of 2007. He had been scheduled to make his first defense of the belt against Matt Hughes at UFC 79 on Dec. 29, but a herniated disc forced him to withdraw from the bout.
Instead, St-Pierre stepped in on short notice and defeated Hughes for the interim title. Following the bout, St-Pierre refused to wear the belt, saying, “Matt Serra is the real champion,” and would not wear the belt until he defeated the Long Island, N.Y. native.
Serra said that his back has been rapidly improving and he is excited about defending the championship.
The event is tentatively scheduled for April 19 at the Bell Centre.
gina caranno will be back for next elitexc show. mostly i am posting this little blurb about gina because i was pissed that i couldn't make a comment on it at the mmajunkie site. this happens over and over and i'm so sick of it. anytime women's mma gets brought up, and particularly in gina's case, it's never taken seriously by more than maybe 5% of the people who respond. i can't imagine how frustrating it has to be for the women involved in mma that they are treated so poorly by their male counterparts and especially the fans. there were so many sexist remarks and negative comments they shut the comments section down as usual.
it would have been nice to be able to just post a comment that i was happy to see gina back in action and on a main card again. i wanted to point out that tara larosa, though, a well established and excellent fighter, started off her career 4-1. all of her wins came against opponents with losing records, with her lone loss being to the only opponent who actually had a winning record. gina, on the other hand, has won her first five mma bouts, with only one of her opponents having a losing record.
tara's able to make 135 much easier than gina could (if she could) because of body type and size. gina should be fighting in the 150-160 range, but there are hardly any quality opponents for her at this stage in her career to fight there. most compete at 135. the "trouble" she has making weight was, in one case, a matter of her weighing in fully clothed and being 1/4 pound over...which was of course met with cheers of "take it off" by the meatheads in the audience.
it would have been nice to make these points about the write up, but unfortunately there are people who follow this sport and still don't get it. some of them would be the first ones to be up in arms when people criticize mixed martial arts, and there are plenty enough who do, but they are also the first ones to treat female mma as a joke and say that women shouldn't be "allowed" to compete on the same cards as men. hypocrites! instead they just focus on looks and forget about women puting in the same hard work and having as good as or better skills than some men...some women's matches i've seen have put their male counterparts to shame.
hey, i look at the girls as much as the next guy, just like the girls do with the men, but at least the men get credit for their hard work once they've competed. the women still have to deal with the bullshit, even if they put on the fight of the night...which gina and julie kedzie did last year on a card that was otherwise filled with men.
in any case, i look forward to gina's next fight and seeing what improvements she has made in her ground game. if tara larosa is still "talking" when gina has a little more experience, i also look forward to gina using her superior muay thai to knock tara out and shut her and the critics up once and for all.
apology for rant. mookie angry. :mad:
January 5, 2008
Gina Carano Booked for Feb. 16 EliteXC Show
January 5, 2008
Gina Carano (5-0), EliteXC’s most marketed female fighter, will be part of the organization’s Feb. 16 show, the organization announced on Friday.
Carano will be part of the night’s televised main card, which airs live on Showtime at 10 p.m. ET. The show, which features a main event of Kimbo Slice vs. Tank Abbott, is expected to take place in Miami, Fla. — possibly at the University of Miami Arena.
An opponent for Carano has not yet been named.
Carano, 25, posted a 12-1-1 record in Muay Thai competitions before making her MMA debut — which just happened to be the first-ever state-sanctioned female fight — in June 2006. She’s a perfect 5-0 in MMA fights, winning two via decision and two via knockout. At a September EliteXC event, she earned her first career submission victory via rear-naked choke over Tonya Evinger.
Although she’s arguably the sport’s best-known female fighter, Carano and EliteXC have been the target of recent criticism for the way her career has been handled. Critics claim that the organization hand picks favorable match-ups — rather than the best match-ups — for her fights. They also cite the organization’s decision to create a special weight class (140 lbs.) for Carano — a weight she’s had trouble making.
Tara LaRosa, perhaps the sport’s top female fighter, has been one of Carano’s biggest critics. She also recently confirmed she’s been in talks with EliteXC about a possible contract.
Carano, the daughter of former Dallas Cowboys quarterback Glenn Carano, can be seen on the upcoming reincarnation of “American Gladiators.” She’ll be one of the show’s “gladiators” (with the name “Crush”). The show, which is hosted by Hulk Hogan and Laila Ali, debuts with a two-hour premiere tomorrow at 9 p.m. ET/PT on NBC. One-hour episodes will then air weekly on Mondays at 8 p.m. ET/PT.
i can't wait to finally see a women's fight! over the last few weeks, i've been trying to think of a fun way to get some exercise, and i've seriously been considering starting some kickboxing or MMA lessons!
tara's able to make 135 much easier than gina could (if she could) because of body type and size. gina should be fighting in the 150-160 range, but there are hardly any quality opponents for her at this stage in her career to fight there. most compete at 135. the "trouble" she has making weight was, in one case, a matter of her weighing in fully clothed and being 1/4 pound over...which was of course met with cheers of "take it off" by the meatheads in the audience.
really? she would really fight at 150-160?? she looks so much smaller than that! geez... at my current weight, i'd be fighting the likes of Chuck Liddel! and even with a weight cut, i'm not sure i'd be able to get down to as little as that....
you mean they don't just bust out the white towel when the girls have to get re-weighed?
hey, i look at the girls as much as the next guy, just like the girls do with the men, but at least the men get credit for their hard work once they've competed. the women still have to deal with the bullshit, even if they put on the fight of the night...which gina and julie kedzie did last year on a card that was otherwise filled with men.
lol... this reminds me of a conversation i had with a coworker a few days ago... we were talking about UFC, and he asked who my favorite fighters were, to which i of course replied "GSP and Roger Huerta"... and then i realized that they are the two prettiest boys of the lot, and it made me wonder if their looks have somehow swayed my opinion of them... made me feel kinda bad... although i still love Cro Cop, and he's not that hot...
oh... and for the record... gina's gorgeous!
~~*~~ ...i surfaced and all of my being was enlightend... ~~*~~
Happyhappyjoyjoy!!!!! I am so there with you Ceg!!!
ps Happy to be back. I'll join the fantasy league and get my UFC 80 picks in as soon as i get the invite from Mooks!
invite sent! ...and welcome back! i saw your post in the other thread. that is shitty about the comcast thing. we'll have to look around to see if we can find those matches for you. the clementi / guillard match is also definitely worth watching, but yeah, chuck and wanderlei was epic, and gsp showed why he is the best. by far the two best parts of the show.
8/10, eh? we would have had four of us in the top hundred i'm sure! that's pretty impressive. maybe someday they will have a group trip to an event as a prize for the winning league!
just a couple of women's mma matches for you, ceg...
this one is one some don't like, perhaps because there's not really much striking to speak of, but it gives you an idea as to how a women's match works in terms of grappling scrambles, submission attempts and escapes, and the flexibilty that some women are able to incorprate into their jiu-jitsu skils that a lot of men can't match...personally i thought it was a fun match to watch, especially with the japanese commentary! haha...
Julie Kedzie Vs. Gina Carano (2007) - kedzie known more for her ground game and gina known for her stand up and it shows...:) very fluid and powerful muay thai.
most would probabaly say that megumi "mega megu" fujii and tara larosa are probabaly at the top of the ranks when it comes to mixed martial arts, but mega is small and fights just around 110-115?, while tara fights at 135 and i think she has fought higher before. for gina to make 135, i think it's just too tough on her body. if i can find them, i'll post them later, but tara had a couple of great fights over the last couple of years with amanda buckner and kelly kobald.
it just seems weird to me that someone at 15-1, like tara, would be "calling out" a 5-0 fighter at the beginning of her career without provocation. i guess it's for the publicity so that she can attach herself to the name that gina's made for herself in muay thai and on the reality shows and what not. i think gina's popularity is often a double edged sword.
oh yes, i agree, gina is hot. there's a lot of cute female fighters out there too...so just like the guys i guess you could say it's a draw for some of us, but ultimately you keep watching because of skills and performances... (right? )
edit: and what i should have said before was that gina's normal weight is around 160...so ideally maybe 145-150 would be a more accurate place where she should be fighting.
so after watching the carano vs. kedzie match again, i started to get curious about who is actually ranked top in the world in women's mma at the moment...
found this list of rankings (all weight classes included) from fightmatrix.com not sure how accurate it is to some, but an indicator in any case...
Women (Open) fighter ranks as of 1/2/2008:
1 Tara Larosa - Last Fight: 11/24/2007 [HookNShoot]
2 Yuka Tsuji - Last Fight: 12/26/2007 [Smack Girl]
3 Megumi Fujii - Last Fight: 12/26/2007 [Smack Girl]
4 Amanda Buckner - Last Fight: 4/14/2007 [BodogFIGHT]
5 Miku Matsumoto - Last Fight: 12/22/2007 [DEEP]
6 Takayo Hashi - Last Fight: 9/6/2007 [Smack Girl]
7 Hisae Watanabe - Last Fight: 12/12/2007 [DEEP]
8 Kanako Takeshita - Last Fight: 12/26/2007 [Smack Girl]
9 Shayna Baszler - Last Fight: 10/26/2007 [EliteXC]
10 Gina Carano - Last Fight: 9/15/2007 [EliteXC]
11 Su Hi Ham - Last Fight: 12/26/2007 [Smack Girl]
12 Julie Kedzie - Last Fight: 9/29/2007 [HookNShoot]
13 Roxanne Modafferi - Last Fight: 5/27/2007 [K-GRACE]
14 Satoko Shinash - Last Fight: 12/26/2007 [Smack Girl]
15 Lisa Ward - Last Fight: 11/3/2007 [FatalFemmes]
the fight network hands out a couple of honours for the year in mma...
THE WINNERS’ CIRCLE
Silva Named FOTY; Huerta, Guida Honored for Memorable Dec. 8 Bout
By Loretta Hunt and Brian Knapp
The Fight Network
TFN FIGHTER OF THE YEAR: Anderson Silva
The Fight Network’s MMA scribes consider 2007 the year of “The Spider.” Brazilian Anderson Silva was the sole survivor among the Ultimate Fighting Championship’s five division leaders to walk into the year with his title and leave with it at its end.
Silva (20-4, 12 KOs) enjoyed mild success in Japan’s PRIDE Fighting Championships but found a new home in the UFC. He switched camps two times before settling with Black House in late 2006, four months after he demolished “The Ultimate Fighter” veteran Chris Leben in a lithe 49 seconds at a UFC Fight Night.
In February, the Muay Thai purist brushed aside disappointment and amply handled opponent Travis Lutter after the Texan failed to make weight and the bout was downgraded to a non-title affair. Though Lutter (9-4) was the only man to put the wiry striker on the canvas, the versatile Silva was a sea of calm from his back, as he clamped a triangle choke on Lutter’s bald head and drew out the submission with punishing elbows.
Nine-time King of Pancrase Nate Marquardt (25-7-2) seemed a worthy spoiler to Silva’s reign in July, but the Colorado native experienced no ease in trying to take down the 32-year-old knockout artist. After a brief struggle, it was Marquardt who was forced to fend off a first-round flurry from his back. The bout was stopped at the 4:50 mark of round one.
Silva’s coup d’etat came in October, when he dismantled hometown favorite Rich Franklin in just over a round. His stand-up ferocity – in and out of the UFC – currently lacks an equal.
Honorable Mention: Quinton “Rampage” Jackson, Randy Couture
TFN FIGHT OF THE YEAR: Clay Guida vs. Roger Huerta
When Roger Huerta (20-1-1) made the cover of Sports Illustrated in May – a landmark moment in mixed martial arts history – his naysayers came out of the woodwork. They saw a fabricated star with more style than substance, more hype than ability. Clay Guida (22-9), the crazy-haired Chicagoan with seemingly boundless energy and a proven track record, would expose Huerta as a fraud, or so they thought.
They met inside the Octagon on a Saturday night in December, the main event at “The Ultimate Fighter 5” Live Finale. And for two rounds, Guida proved Huerta’s detractors right, as he built a substantial lead in the fight with superior wrestling and relentless pressure.
Huerta, however, had other ideas. The 24-year-old Dave Menne protégé survived a harrowing second round in which he was stunned by a haymaker and waited for an opportunity to turn the tide. Early in round three, Huerta dazed Guida with a crisp left knee, and the pendulum swung. Soon after, Huerta took Guida’s back and secured the rear-naked choke for the tapout. The fight ended 10:31 after it began. Huerta was reduced to tears.
The victory capped an unbeaten year for Huerta, who has emerged as the centerpiece in the UFC’s eventual incursion into the Mexican market. He delivered four of his five wins by stoppage, including his 19-second TKO victory over John Halverson at UFC 67 in February. Only Leonard Garcia – a Greg Jackson disciple who has yet to be stopped in 13 career bouts – took him the distance.
Guida, meanwhile, lost three of his four fights in 2007, though few could match his level of competition. He went to war with Huerta, rising contender Tyson Griffin and the American Top Team’s Din Thomas and Marcus Aurelio. Together, they have a combined record of 65-14-1.
Honorable Mention: Tyson Griffin vs. Frankie Edgar (UFC 67 - Feb. 3, Las Vegas), Georges St. Pierre vs. Matt Hughes (UFC 79 - Dec. 29, Las Vegas)
just a couple of women's mma matches for you, ceg...
this one is one some don't like, perhaps because there's not really much striking to speak of, but it gives you an idea as to how a women's match works in terms of grappling scrambles, submission attempts and escapes, and the flexibilty that some women are able to incorprate into their jiu-jitsu skils that a lot of men can't match...personally i thought it was a fun match to watch, especially with the japanese commentary! haha...
you're right! the women are very flexible... makes it tough to see what was going on... just a tangle of arms and legs! i like the japanese commentary... good practice for me to try and follow the action myself...
Julie Kedzie Vs. Gina Carano (2007) - kedzie known more for her ground game and gina known for her stand up and it shows...:) very fluid and powerful muay thai.
As good as any men's fight i've ever seen! thanks so much for posting it... wow, can Julie take a punch, or what?? the only difference in the women that i noticed in this fight was a slight reluctance in the gound and pound... for example, when Gina dropped Julie at the end of the 2nd round, she didn't pounce on her an finish her like i would have expected...
and another heart-warming ending... brought a little tear to my eye!
~~*~~ ...i surfaced and all of my being was enlightend... ~~*~~
so, there were four of us who got our picks in on time for UFC 79, and invites need to be sent out to releash, and accbootlaggoddess. beachdweller did not get the invite in time to make picks. an invite was sent to pearljamfan99 so he is signing up...leaving us 3 spots left for the league. also, i think pearljamfan99's buddy is a plant from another league to bring our overall score down and prevent us from winning group prizes! just speculating...but 13?!?! i mean, i know there's bad luck, but 13?!?!
UFC® 79 NEMESIS :: LEAGUE RESULTS
The Evolution Fight Club
Rank - Player - Total Points Awarded
1 All Manador - 168
2 battery - 130
3 Loveboatcapt0226 - 121
4 DAKATAK - 13
5 beachdweller - No Play
hats off to civ eng girl!
Mook-
He was trying to get his picks in before the PPV, and it wold only let him pick 1 or 2 fights, and it wouldn't let me pick at all. Peace, J
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01/04/2008
A Champ Never Forgets: Silva Gives Back in a Big Way
By Thomas Gerbasi
Considered to one of the best, if not the best, fighters in the world, pound for pound, UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva can also be considered one of the best human beings in the world, pound for pound, as he has decided to donate his entire portion of the proceeds from a recent UFC auction to the Ronald McDonald House.
For Brazil’s Silva - who defends his title against Dan Henderson in the main event of UFC 82 on March 1st at the Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio – it’s a way of not only giving back to those less fortunate, but to remember where he came from, as his first job as a young man was at McDonald’s.
Now, the monies Silva gathered from the UFC auction, which saw the gloves he wore in his UFC 77 win over Rich Franklin go for $7,150, and the fight-worn trunks from UFC 77 go for $3,500, will go towards helping improve the health and well-being of children and their families in need.
Such selflessness is the true measure of a champion and a man – and the definition of Anderson Silva.
~~*~~ ...i surfaced and all of my being was enlightend... ~~*~~
you're right! the women are very flexible... makes it tough to see what was going on... just a tangle of arms and legs! i like the japanese commentary... good practice for me to try and follow the action myself...
As good as any men's fight i've ever seen! thanks so much for posting it... wow, can Julie take a punch, or what?? the only difference in the women that i noticed in this fight was a slight reluctance in the gound and pound... for example, when Gina dropped Julie at the end of the 2nd round, she didn't pounce on her an finish her like i would have expected...
and another heart-warming ending... brought a little tear to my eye!
that's good to hear, ceg. i really enjoyed that fight too, and for me, it rivals most of the men's matches from last year for sure!. you could tell that julie really didn't want to have much to do with the stand up as she was backing away constantly, and especially in the first round. the two head kicks and the big right hands would have finished the fight against most fighters, but julie showed great heart! i thought the fight was over after that knockdown you mentioned. i'm wondering if gina just didn't want to take a chance on getting caught in julie's guard if she rushed in and julie happended to recover...not so sure what she was thinking there, but she has had no problem using ground and pound in the past. her first win was a pretty brutal ground and pound finish in the first minute of the fight. (it was the first sanctioned women's mma match in nevada, and both fighters were making their mma debuts.) in any case, kudos to julie for hanging in there and staying in the fight for the duration.
the ending was awesome! they didn't show the whole interview part at the end, but it was a great show of respect the way they hugged and raised each other's hands at the end. you could hear steve maz saying that it was an honour to ref the fight. it was funny when the scorecards were read and the two 29-28's made gina smirk at the camera...then julie did the same to her coaches on the 30-27 score. gina was fairly passive in the last round, so i can see how they might score that one for julie. she also had a nice arm triangle roll but couldn't quite get her hooks in to keep the hold..then gina stood up and landed that beautiful big overhand right while julie was down...and she still came back for more!
during the interview in the cage post fight, julie had to jokingly ask the guy doing the interview to repeat his question as she said "what was the question? i just got hit in the head a lot." gina had good things to say about julie's toughness and julie said the same, saying that she'd read all the interviews and internet postings about gina not being very tough, but that as someone who'd faced some of the tougher fighters out there, that gina was one of the toughest.
anyway...it was an ending you'd like to see after every match. mutual respect and admiration, and compliments to each other on a great competition.
julie is fighting again at the beginning of february, this time against gina's last opponent, tonya evinger. gina comes back later on in the month to go for her 6th straight win on the 16th. i don't know if i'll get to see the first one (i hope so), but gina's fight will definitely be on the fight network, so i can't wait!
more bad luck for thales...:( i think this is the third time they've tried to make this match, but once again we'll have to see who faces marquardt.
01/08/2008
Broken Hand Scraps Leites from UFC 81 Card
Thomas Gerbasi, UFC - A broken right hand suffered in training Monday has forced middleweight contender Thales Leites to withdraw from his UFC 81 bout against Nate Marquardt. Leites, winner of three in a row in the Octagon, will undergo surgery on the hand later this week.
more bad luck for thales...:( i think this is the third time they've tried to make this match, but once again we'll have to see who faces marquardt.
01/08/2008
Broken Hand Scraps Leites from UFC 81 Card
Thomas Gerbasi, UFC - A broken right hand suffered in training Monday has forced middleweight contender Thales Leites to withdraw from his UFC 81 bout against Nate Marquardt. Leites, winner of three in a row in the Octagon, will undergo surgery on the hand later this week.
Too bad for Thales. :( That would have been a great fight to see. The recovery from hand surgery will take awhile so I would be surprised if we saw Thales fight before the fall of this year.
that was one that i was looking forward to as well. thales has a lot of potential and getting matched up with a veteran like marquardt would have been a good test for him. he'll have a long time off now until the fall, eh?
they've found a relacement quickly, though, and a very surprising one at that - the "jeremy horn train" rolls through vegas for the match...
Jeremy Horn vs. Nate Marquardt at UFC 81
January 9, 2008
With Thales Leites scratched from a UFC 81 fight with Nate Marquardt (25-7-2 MMA, 4-1 UFC) due to a broken right hand, 100-fight veteran Jeremy Horn (79-16-5 MMA, 6-4 UFC) has been tapped as a late replacement.
UFC.com today posted the announcement.
UFC 81 takes place Feb. 2 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas and airs live on pay-per-view.
Marquardt, a former top middleweight contender, was set to return from his July 2007 loss to UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva against surging 185-pound contender Leites. However, for the second time, Leites had to withdrawal from a bout with the Team Jackson fighter. Marquardt and Leites were originally set to fight in October 2006, but Leites couldn’t enter the country due to problems with his travel documentation.
Now injured, Leites will be replaced by Horn, arguably the busiest fighter in mixed-martial-arts history. Since turning professional in March 1996, Horn has fought 100 times, facing a virtual who’s who of MMA. Horn made his UFC debut in May 1998 with a submission loss to Frank Shamrock in a title fight. Seven years later, he got a shot at Chuck Liddell’s title but suffered a fourth-round TKO.
Horn last competed in the UFC in May 2006, when he defeated Chael Sonnen with a second-round submission. He’s since gone 1-2 outside the organization fighting for the International Fight League and Art of War. In September, he lost via triangle choke to Jorge Santiago; it was his first submission loss in more than six years.
His fight with Marquardt will be on the UFC 81’s televised card.
Mook-
He was trying to get his picks in before the PPV, and it wold only let him pick 1 or 2 fights, and it wouldn't let me pick at all. Peace, J
hey j, it's showing on my league list that your invite is still pending. i don't know if there was a mistake or not, but i re-sent the invite to you just in case.
still 5 spots left on the "super team" ...and just over a week until the UFC is across the pond. i think i'll review my picks and the picks for the fight night today to make sure they're not too crazy! i know me and ceg are almost completely opposite on our picks for ufc 80!
also, all kinds of crazy rumours are swirling about the montreal card that include names like rich franklin vs. travis lutter, sean sherk vs. winner of penn vs. stevenson for the LW title, mauricio rua (rua confirmed this himself in an interview recently so it looks like he's almost a lock), diego sanchez, and either lyoto machida vs. tito ortiz or rashad evans vs. thiago silva. i'm sure we'll get some more confrimation on these soon, but it looks like it will be a doozie! of course it's more likely that these will get split in half for the london show and montreal show.
also, all kinds of crazy rumours are swirling about the montreal card that include names like rich franklin vs. travis lutter, sean sherk vs. winner of penn vs. stevenson for the LW title, mauricio rua (rua confirmed this himself in an interview recently so it looks like he's almost a lock), diego sanchez, and either lyoto machida vs. tito ortiz or rashad evans vs. thiago silva. i'm sure we'll get some more confrimation on these soon, but it looks like it will be a doozie! of course it's more likely that these will get split in half for the london show and montreal show.
in closing...
GSP!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :cool:
there... i used 'em all up.
~~*~~ ...i surfaced and all of my being was enlightend... ~~*~~
i know! i would use one as well if i weren't quoting you, ceg, because UFC 84 (the rumoured card) is starting to look CRAZY SILLY!!! ...and there's still the possibility that rich franklin will be facing travis lutter! edit: (rich may now be taking time off to be with his family after his father's passing.) i'd heard alves vs. parisyan was happening in denver, but today reports came out that they're working in it for montreal!!! alves!!!
UFC 84, April 19, 2008 - Bell Centre, Montréal, Quebec, Canada - PPV
Georges St-Pierre Vs. Matt Serra - WW Championship
Sean Sherk Vs. BJ Penn or Joe Stevenson - LW Championship
Mauricio Rua Vs. TBA
Karo Parisyan Vs. Thiago Alves
Patrick Côté Vs. TBA (pending clearance after match with Drew McFedries)
Jason MacDonald Vs. TBA
Sam Stout Vs. TBA
Jonathan Goulet Vs. TBA
Mark Bocek Vs. TBA
UFC 84, April 19, 2008 - Bell Centre, Montréal, Quebec, Canada - PPV
Georges St-Pierre Vs. Matt Serra - WW Championship
Sean Sherk Vs. BJ Penn or Joe Stevenson - LW Championship
Mauricio Rua Vs. TBA
Karo Parisyan Vs. Thiago Alves
Patrick Côté Vs. TBA (pending clearance after match with Drew McFedries)
Jason MacDonald Vs. TBA
Sam Stout Vs. TBA
Jonathan Goulet Vs. TBA
Mark Bocek Vs. TBA
(LMAO!! that was supposed to be a maple leaf... it looked right on my screen, but it got messed up when it posted.... )
damn, this is going to be good.... so, do you think that the 19th is set as the date? should i book a room? i guess i could, and change it if we have to...
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My early prediction is Gene Simmons wins it, because that guy could sell ice to eskimos!! LOL
from mmaweekly.com...
Total 27348 votes cast.
Roger Huerta vs Clay Guida 17.31%
Nick Diaz vs Takanori Gomi 16.85%
Chris Horodecki vs. Shad Lierley 12.78%
Frank Shamrock vs Phil Baroni 11.87%
Chuck Liddell vs Wanderlei Silva 11.27%
Robbie Lawler vs Murilo "Ninja" Rua 10.88%
Dan Henderson vs Wanderlei Silva 9.32%
Randy Couture vs Tim Sylvia 4.89%
Frankie Edgar vs Tyson Griffin 2.18%
Tyson Griffin vs Clay Guida 2.00%
Tyson Griffin vs. Thiago Tavares 0.65%
think Simpsons... where Lisa has a crush on Nelson....
"Nuke the whales?".... "Gotta nuke somethin'!".... "Touche"...
yay. yay. yay...... YAY!!!
as soon as this sucker is announced, i'm booking a hotel room for that weekend....
...i've even used it before is the worst thing....and now i can't think of the episode!!!
it would have been nice to be able to just post a comment that i was happy to see gina back in action and on a main card again. i wanted to point out that tara larosa, though, a well established and excellent fighter, started off her career 4-1. all of her wins came against opponents with losing records, with her lone loss being to the only opponent who actually had a winning record. gina, on the other hand, has won her first five mma bouts, with only one of her opponents having a losing record.
tara's able to make 135 much easier than gina could (if she could) because of body type and size. gina should be fighting in the 150-160 range, but there are hardly any quality opponents for her at this stage in her career to fight there. most compete at 135. the "trouble" she has making weight was, in one case, a matter of her weighing in fully clothed and being 1/4 pound over...which was of course met with cheers of "take it off" by the meatheads in the audience.
it would have been nice to make these points about the write up, but unfortunately there are people who follow this sport and still don't get it. some of them would be the first ones to be up in arms when people criticize mixed martial arts, and there are plenty enough who do, but they are also the first ones to treat female mma as a joke and say that women shouldn't be "allowed" to compete on the same cards as men. hypocrites! instead they just focus on looks and forget about women puting in the same hard work and having as good as or better skills than some men...some women's matches i've seen have put their male counterparts to shame.
hey, i look at the girls as much as the next guy, just like the girls do with the men, but at least the men get credit for their hard work once they've competed. the women still have to deal with the bullshit, even if they put on the fight of the night...which gina and julie kedzie did last year on a card that was otherwise filled with men.
in any case, i look forward to gina's next fight and seeing what improvements she has made in her ground game. if tara larosa is still "talking" when gina has a little more experience, i also look forward to gina using her superior muay thai to knock tara out and shut her and the critics up once and for all.
apology for rant. mookie angry. :mad:
January 5, 2008
Gina Carano Booked for Feb. 16 EliteXC Show
January 5, 2008
Gina Carano (5-0), EliteXC’s most marketed female fighter, will be part of the organization’s Feb. 16 show, the organization announced on Friday.
Carano will be part of the night’s televised main card, which airs live on Showtime at 10 p.m. ET. The show, which features a main event of Kimbo Slice vs. Tank Abbott, is expected to take place in Miami, Fla. — possibly at the University of Miami Arena.
An opponent for Carano has not yet been named.
Carano, 25, posted a 12-1-1 record in Muay Thai competitions before making her MMA debut — which just happened to be the first-ever state-sanctioned female fight — in June 2006. She’s a perfect 5-0 in MMA fights, winning two via decision and two via knockout. At a September EliteXC event, she earned her first career submission victory via rear-naked choke over Tonya Evinger.
Although she’s arguably the sport’s best-known female fighter, Carano and EliteXC have been the target of recent criticism for the way her career has been handled. Critics claim that the organization hand picks favorable match-ups — rather than the best match-ups — for her fights. They also cite the organization’s decision to create a special weight class (140 lbs.) for Carano — a weight she’s had trouble making.
Tara LaRosa, perhaps the sport’s top female fighter, has been one of Carano’s biggest critics. She also recently confirmed she’s been in talks with EliteXC about a possible contract.
Carano, the daughter of former Dallas Cowboys quarterback Glenn Carano, can be seen on the upcoming reincarnation of “American Gladiators.” She’ll be one of the show’s “gladiators” (with the name “Crush”). The show, which is hosted by Hulk Hogan and Laila Ali, debuts with a two-hour premiere tomorrow at 9 p.m. ET/PT on NBC. One-hour episodes will then air weekly on Mondays at 8 p.m. ET/PT.
http://mmajunkie.com/2008/01/05/gina-carano-booked-for-feb-16-elitexc-show/
really? she would really fight at 150-160?? she looks so much smaller than that! geez... at my current weight, i'd be fighting the likes of Chuck Liddel!
you mean they don't just bust out the white towel when the girls have to get re-weighed?
lol... this reminds me of a conversation i had with a coworker a few days ago... we were talking about UFC, and he asked who my favorite fighters were, to which i of course replied "GSP and Roger Huerta"... and then i realized that they are the two prettiest boys of the lot, and it made me wonder if their looks have somehow swayed my opinion of them... made me feel kinda bad...
oh... and for the record... gina's gorgeous!
Happyhappyjoyjoy!!!!! I am so there with you Ceg!!!
ps Happy to be back. I'll join the fantasy league and get my UFC 80 picks in as soon as i get the invite from Mooks!
invite sent!
8/10, eh? we would have had four of us in the top hundred i'm sure! that's pretty impressive.
for now, though, montreal!
this one is one some don't like, perhaps because there's not really much striking to speak of, but it gives you an idea as to how a women's match works in terms of grappling scrambles, submission attempts and escapes, and the flexibilty that some women are able to incorprate into their jiu-jitsu skils that a lot of men can't match...personally i thought it was a fun match to watch, especially with the japanese commentary! haha...
Miku Matsumoto vs. Carina Damm (2006)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp4xqkTJvUI
Julie Kedzie Vs. Gina Carano (2007) - kedzie known more for her ground game and gina known for her stand up and it shows...:) very fluid and powerful muay thai.
part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMvW-c3GjvE
part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mGNDmMixGk
most would probabaly say that megumi "mega megu" fujii and tara larosa are probabaly at the top of the ranks when it comes to mixed martial arts, but mega is small and fights just around 110-115?, while tara fights at 135 and i think she has fought higher before. for gina to make 135, i think it's just too tough on her body. if i can find them, i'll post them later, but tara had a couple of great fights over the last couple of years with amanda buckner and kelly kobald.
it just seems weird to me that someone at 15-1, like tara, would be "calling out" a 5-0 fighter at the beginning of her career without provocation. i guess it's for the publicity so that she can attach herself to the name that gina's made for herself in muay thai and on the reality shows and what not. i think gina's popularity is often a double edged sword.
oh yes, i agree, gina is hot.
edit: and what i should have said before was that gina's normal weight is around 160...so ideally maybe 145-150 would be a more accurate place where she should be fighting.
found this list of rankings (all weight classes included) from fightmatrix.com not sure how accurate it is to some, but an indicator in any case...
Women (Open) fighter ranks as of 1/2/2008:
1 Tara Larosa - Last Fight: 11/24/2007 [HookNShoot]
2 Yuka Tsuji - Last Fight: 12/26/2007 [Smack Girl]
3 Megumi Fujii - Last Fight: 12/26/2007 [Smack Girl]
4 Amanda Buckner - Last Fight: 4/14/2007 [BodogFIGHT]
5 Miku Matsumoto - Last Fight: 12/22/2007 [DEEP]
6 Takayo Hashi - Last Fight: 9/6/2007 [Smack Girl]
7 Hisae Watanabe - Last Fight: 12/12/2007 [DEEP]
8 Kanako Takeshita - Last Fight: 12/26/2007 [Smack Girl]
9 Shayna Baszler - Last Fight: 10/26/2007 [EliteXC]
10 Gina Carano - Last Fight: 9/15/2007 [EliteXC]
11 Su Hi Ham - Last Fight: 12/26/2007 [Smack Girl]
12 Julie Kedzie - Last Fight: 9/29/2007 [HookNShoot]
13 Roxanne Modafferi - Last Fight: 5/27/2007 [K-GRACE]
14 Satoko Shinash - Last Fight: 12/26/2007 [Smack Girl]
15 Lisa Ward - Last Fight: 11/3/2007 [FatalFemmes]
THE WINNERS’ CIRCLE
Silva Named FOTY; Huerta, Guida Honored for Memorable Dec. 8 Bout
By Loretta Hunt and Brian Knapp
The Fight Network
TFN FIGHTER OF THE YEAR: Anderson Silva
The Fight Network’s MMA scribes consider 2007 the year of “The Spider.” Brazilian Anderson Silva was the sole survivor among the Ultimate Fighting Championship’s five division leaders to walk into the year with his title and leave with it at its end.
Silva (20-4, 12 KOs) enjoyed mild success in Japan’s PRIDE Fighting Championships but found a new home in the UFC. He switched camps two times before settling with Black House in late 2006, four months after he demolished “The Ultimate Fighter” veteran Chris Leben in a lithe 49 seconds at a UFC Fight Night.
In February, the Muay Thai purist brushed aside disappointment and amply handled opponent Travis Lutter after the Texan failed to make weight and the bout was downgraded to a non-title affair. Though Lutter (9-4) was the only man to put the wiry striker on the canvas, the versatile Silva was a sea of calm from his back, as he clamped a triangle choke on Lutter’s bald head and drew out the submission with punishing elbows.
Nine-time King of Pancrase Nate Marquardt (25-7-2) seemed a worthy spoiler to Silva’s reign in July, but the Colorado native experienced no ease in trying to take down the 32-year-old knockout artist. After a brief struggle, it was Marquardt who was forced to fend off a first-round flurry from his back. The bout was stopped at the 4:50 mark of round one.
Silva’s coup d’etat came in October, when he dismantled hometown favorite Rich Franklin in just over a round. His stand-up ferocity – in and out of the UFC – currently lacks an equal.
Honorable Mention: Quinton “Rampage” Jackson, Randy Couture
TFN FIGHT OF THE YEAR: Clay Guida vs. Roger Huerta
When Roger Huerta (20-1-1) made the cover of Sports Illustrated in May – a landmark moment in mixed martial arts history – his naysayers came out of the woodwork. They saw a fabricated star with more style than substance, more hype than ability. Clay Guida (22-9), the crazy-haired Chicagoan with seemingly boundless energy and a proven track record, would expose Huerta as a fraud, or so they thought.
They met inside the Octagon on a Saturday night in December, the main event at “The Ultimate Fighter 5” Live Finale. And for two rounds, Guida proved Huerta’s detractors right, as he built a substantial lead in the fight with superior wrestling and relentless pressure.
Huerta, however, had other ideas. The 24-year-old Dave Menne protégé survived a harrowing second round in which he was stunned by a haymaker and waited for an opportunity to turn the tide. Early in round three, Huerta dazed Guida with a crisp left knee, and the pendulum swung. Soon after, Huerta took Guida’s back and secured the rear-naked choke for the tapout. The fight ended 10:31 after it began. Huerta was reduced to tears.
The victory capped an unbeaten year for Huerta, who has emerged as the centerpiece in the UFC’s eventual incursion into the Mexican market. He delivered four of his five wins by stoppage, including his 19-second TKO victory over John Halverson at UFC 67 in February. Only Leonard Garcia – a Greg Jackson disciple who has yet to be stopped in 13 career bouts – took him the distance.
Guida, meanwhile, lost three of his four fights in 2007, though few could match his level of competition. He went to war with Huerta, rising contender Tyson Griffin and the American Top Team’s Din Thomas and Marcus Aurelio. Together, they have a combined record of 65-14-1.
Honorable Mention: Tyson Griffin vs. Frankie Edgar (UFC 67 - Feb. 3, Las Vegas), Georges St. Pierre vs. Matt Hughes (UFC 79 - Dec. 29, Las Vegas)
http://thefightnetwork.com/news_detail.php?nid=5853
you're right! the women are very flexible... makes it tough to see what was going on... just a tangle of arms and legs!
As good as any men's fight i've ever seen!
and another heart-warming ending... brought a little tear to my eye!
welcome back!!
ohhh! the fantasy league is heating up!! LET'S GET IT ON!!
Mook-
He was trying to get his picks in before the PPV, and it wold only let him pick 1 or 2 fights, and it wouldn't let me pick at all. Peace, J
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agreed, ceg. She looks beautiful on american gladitors. And really ripped . . . her legs are crazy!
:d just kidding around, j. sorry that he couldn't get his picks in on time. now, it makes sense to me!
plenty of time this time, so good luck. watch me get less than 13 this time now...it would serve me right! haha
01/04/2008
A Champ Never Forgets: Silva Gives Back in a Big Way
By Thomas Gerbasi
Considered to one of the best, if not the best, fighters in the world, pound for pound, UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva can also be considered one of the best human beings in the world, pound for pound, as he has decided to donate his entire portion of the proceeds from a recent UFC auction to the Ronald McDonald House.
For Brazil’s Silva - who defends his title against Dan Henderson in the main event of UFC 82 on March 1st at the Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio – it’s a way of not only giving back to those less fortunate, but to remember where he came from, as his first job as a young man was at McDonald’s.
Now, the monies Silva gathered from the UFC auction, which saw the gloves he wore in his UFC 77 win over Rich Franklin go for $7,150, and the fight-worn trunks from UFC 77 go for $3,500, will go towards helping improve the health and well-being of children and their families in need.
Such selflessness is the true measure of a champion and a man – and the definition of Anderson Silva.
that's good to hear, ceg.
the ending was awesome! they didn't show the whole interview part at the end, but it was a great show of respect the way they hugged and raised each other's hands at the end. you could hear steve maz saying that it was an honour to ref the fight. it was funny when the scorecards were read and the two 29-28's made gina smirk at the camera...then julie did the same to her coaches on the 30-27 score.
during the interview in the cage post fight, julie had to jokingly ask the guy doing the interview to repeat his question as she said "what was the question? i just got hit in the head a lot." gina had good things to say about julie's toughness and julie said the same, saying that she'd read all the interviews and internet postings about gina not being very tough, but that as someone who'd faced some of the tougher fighters out there, that gina was one of the toughest.
anyway...it was an ending you'd like to see after every match. mutual respect and admiration, and compliments to each other on a great competition.
julie is fighting again at the beginning of february, this time against gina's last opponent, tonya evinger. gina comes back later on in the month to go for her 6th straight win on the 16th. i don't know if i'll get to see the first one (i hope so), but gina's fight will definitely be on the fight network, so i can't wait!
01/08/2008
Broken Hand Scraps Leites from UFC 81 Card
Thomas Gerbasi, UFC - A broken right hand suffered in training Monday has forced middleweight contender Thales Leites to withdraw from his UFC 81 bout against Nate Marquardt. Leites, winner of three in a row in the Octagon, will undergo surgery on the hand later this week.
Too bad for Thales. :( That would have been a great fight to see. The recovery from hand surgery will take awhile so I would be surprised if we saw Thales fight before the fall of this year.
they've found a relacement quickly, though, and a very surprising one at that - the "jeremy horn train" rolls through vegas for the match...
Jeremy Horn vs. Nate Marquardt at UFC 81
January 9, 2008
With Thales Leites scratched from a UFC 81 fight with Nate Marquardt (25-7-2 MMA, 4-1 UFC) due to a broken right hand, 100-fight veteran Jeremy Horn (79-16-5 MMA, 6-4 UFC) has been tapped as a late replacement.
UFC.com today posted the announcement.
UFC 81 takes place Feb. 2 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas and airs live on pay-per-view.
Marquardt, a former top middleweight contender, was set to return from his July 2007 loss to UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva against surging 185-pound contender Leites. However, for the second time, Leites had to withdrawal from a bout with the Team Jackson fighter. Marquardt and Leites were originally set to fight in October 2006, but Leites couldn’t enter the country due to problems with his travel documentation.
Now injured, Leites will be replaced by Horn, arguably the busiest fighter in mixed-martial-arts history. Since turning professional in March 1996, Horn has fought 100 times, facing a virtual who’s who of MMA. Horn made his UFC debut in May 1998 with a submission loss to Frank Shamrock in a title fight. Seven years later, he got a shot at Chuck Liddell’s title but suffered a fourth-round TKO.
Horn last competed in the UFC in May 2006, when he defeated Chael Sonnen with a second-round submission. He’s since gone 1-2 outside the organization fighting for the International Fight League and Art of War. In September, he lost via triangle choke to Jorge Santiago; it was his first submission loss in more than six years.
His fight with Marquardt will be on the UFC 81’s televised card.
http://mmajunkie.com/2008/01/09/jeremy-horn-vs-nate-marquardt-at-ufc-81/
hey j, it's showing on my league list that your invite is still pending. i don't know if there was a mistake or not, but i re-sent the invite to you just in case.
still 5 spots left on the "super team"
also, all kinds of crazy rumours are swirling about the montreal card that include names like rich franklin vs. travis lutter, sean sherk vs. winner of penn vs. stevenson for the LW title, mauricio rua (rua confirmed this himself in an interview recently so it looks like he's almost a lock), diego sanchez, and either lyoto machida vs. tito ortiz or rashad evans vs. thiago silva. i'm sure we'll get some more confrimation on these soon, but it looks like it will be a doozie!
in closing...
GSP!
:eek: :eek: :eek:
there... i used 'em all up.
i know! i would use one as well if i weren't quoting you, ceg, because UFC 84 (the rumoured card) is starting to look CRAZY SILLY!!! ...and there's still the possibility that rich franklin will be facing travis lutter! edit: (rich may now be taking time off to be with his family after his father's passing.) i'd heard alves vs. parisyan was happening in denver, but today reports came out that they're working in it for montreal!!! alves!!!
UFC 84, April 19, 2008 - Bell Centre, Montréal, Quebec, Canada - PPV
Georges St-Pierre Vs. Matt Serra - WW Championship
Sean Sherk Vs. BJ Penn or Joe Stevenson - LW Championship
Mauricio Rua Vs. TBA
Karo Parisyan Vs. Thiago Alves
Patrick Côté Vs. TBA (pending clearance after match with Drew McFedries)
Jason MacDonald Vs. TBA
Sam Stout Vs. TBA
Jonathan Goulet Vs. TBA
Mark Bocek Vs. TBA
oh, canada!!!!!
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(LMAO!! that was supposed to be a maple leaf... it looked right on my screen, but it got messed up when it posted....
damn, this is going to be good.... so, do you think that the 19th is set as the date? should i book a room? i guess i could, and change it if we have to...