I know this is a double standard but.....

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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    anyhoo....from MY reading if gtfgirl's posts, i seem to recall her stating to share your ideas, and experiences that you had outside her presence..and then gave the girl on the subway scenario. so she did not suggest that a woman finds a man ignoring her and oogling another woman in her presnece sexy...i don't think many would, and most would find it disrespectful....altho like ANYthing, i am sure there are many who DO like it. humiliation IS quite a popular, even if underground...sexual fantasy. :p point is, it's sharing thoughts.....not actions. and yes, again, any woman confident in herself, her sexual identity, her relationship...doesn't feel 'threatened' by such. on the contrary...it's another degree of intimacy..sharing such thoughts. if one wants to think BS, so be it...doesn't change the fact that it IS true, for many.

    There's a big difference with knowing your partner has fantasies about other people and talking about it occasionally and asking your partner to tell you about it whenever he/she has them. Some days the only thing on my mind is sex; the streets are filled with beautiful girls, I'm surrounded by models on the train, auditoria are crowded with the most beautiful girls... If my girl asked me to tell me all the fantasies and thoughts about other girls I had that day... I'd be talking all night about other girls.

    Let's be realistic here, only a very small percentage of people would like that.

    Perhaps some of the ladies here are underestimating how many fantasies we really have :D
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • Dylan StoneDylan Stone Posts: 1,145
    catch22 wrote:

    2. what do you want? names and addresses? these are old college friends, professional coworkers, fellow law students, other people and friends from all walks of life and all ages. this isn't like my high school drama team or anything. i'm not sure what you were looking for... some way to pigeonhole me, i'm sure. so let's see what you can come up with.


    did you miss the part where i was clear i was sarcastic with this question?

    Sorry. Jeez. :o

    AND...i never said I was never jealous or insecure. Sure i am!

    What can I tell you?

    I think I've said enough. If you don't believe what i wrote.. that's ok. It's all good.

    Ha. Considering the how much i've already said on here... it's just as well if people think I'm bullshitting. I'm rare to expose myself on here.



    Yeah. On second thought. You're right and it's all bullshit. :)
    .
  • WhizbangWhizbang Posts: 1,314
    Saturnal wrote:
    lol

    Whiz has no time for your bullshit, gents.

    ::calls in WHEB and requests Maneater::

    uhm...correction....it was WAAF and I was merely the instigator for that call, I stood by innocently and laughed hysterically hearing Becca make that call!!!
    believe it or not, we don't "need" anything. that is only the spoiled brat in us trying to fill some temporary solution to an emptyness that does not exist.

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  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    did you miss the part where i was clear i was sarcastic with this question?

    Sorry. Jeez. :o

    AND...i never said I was never jealous or insecure. Sure i am!

    What can I tell you?

    I think I've said enough. If you don't believe what i wrote.. that's ok. It's all good.

    Ha. Considering the how much i've already said on here... it's just as well if people think I'm bullshitting. I'm rare to expose myself on here.

    Yeah. On second thought. You're right and it's all bullshit. :)

    you haven't exposed yourself. truly exposing yourself would be.... wait, you wanted to hear our fantasies right? :)
    and like that... he's gone.
  • Dylan StoneDylan Stone Posts: 1,145
    Collin wrote:
    Let's be realistic here, only a very small percentage of people would like that.

    Perhaps some of the ladies here are underestimating how many fantasies we really have :D


    Yeah. What you said. I don't think anyone wants to hear 4 hours daily about 12 hours thinking of fucking 17 different chicks. Just saying there is something to be said for the understanding that those desires exist and using them to help add fuel to the fires.

    ;)
  • Dylan StoneDylan Stone Posts: 1,145
    catch22 wrote:
    you haven't exposed yourself. truly exposing yourself would be.... wait, you wanted to hear our fantasies right? :)

    Ah ha ha. :)
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Collin wrote:
    There's a big difference with knowing your partner has fantasies about other people and talking about it occasionally and asking your partner to tell you about it whenever he/she has them. Some days the only thing on my mind is sex; the streets are filled with beautiful girls, I'm surrounded by models on the train, auditoria are crowded with the most beautiful girls... If my girl asked me to tell me all the fantasies and thoughts about other girls I had that day... I'd be talking all night about other girls.

    Let's be realistic here, only a very small percentage of people would like that.

    Perhaps some of the ladies here are underestimating how many fantasies we really have :D


    and did i specify sharing EVERY one? nope. we all have some things to yourselves and for ourselves. just b/c your partner may ask you to share...doesn't suggest you have to share EVERYthing.


    and perhaps some of you gentlemen are underestimating just how many women have such open minds...and how many fantasties WE may have.

    again..indeed...it does go both ways.
    i think men have continued to carry on this 'delicate flower' sensibility in regards to women for far too long. try up out, open up...what have you got to lose? you live and you learn. the longer you are with someone, trust someone, grow confident in yourself and your relationship...the more at ease you feel with truly sharing yourself.


    anyhoo...really, it's simple. if your sexlife is unsatisifying......YOU change it! read, watch ;).....educate yourself. communicate. be open about your desires, a little at a time if need be. go slowly...work on progress and pleasing your partner....and they will want to do more to please you, etc.

    obviously...enter into a relationship with someone compatible. if sexual freedom is indeed important to you, well then, go with a like-minded indivudal. and while it's all well and good to joke and fantasize about a 'double-standard' and having your cake and eating it too...realistically, don't enter a relationship with someone who expects fidelity and just wish it away to be different. it's all choice.

    and sorry there i go again...being serious......:p shame on me. sex IS serious business. serious FUN. :D
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  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    Yeah. What you said. I don't think anyone wants to hear 4 hours daily about 12 hours thinking of fucking 17 different chicks.

    that's what i thought. that's why i said bullshit. i assumed you meant you were all cool with and wanting to hear about every instance of us wanting to screw other girls. and there are a LOT. like, dozens daily.

    there's a world of difference between generically saying "i want him to share his fantasies with me" and saying what you said about wanting to hear about how turned on he was by the hottie on the bus. cos that to me, indicates the description i just quoted. we must not have been on the same page.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • WhizbangWhizbang Posts: 1,314
    Collin wrote:
    There's a big difference with knowing your partner has fantasies about other people and talking about it occasionally and asking your partner to tell you about it whenever he/she has them. Some days the only thing on my mind is sex; the streets are filled with beautiful girls, I'm surrounded by models on the train, auditoria are crowded with the most beautiful girls... If my girl asked me to tell me all the fantasies and thoughts about other girls I had that day... I'd be talking all night about other girls.

    Let's be realistic here, only a very small percentage of people would like that.

    Perhaps some of the ladies here are underestimating how many fantasies we really have :D

    which I agree...we very well may be underestimating. But I think you gentlemen are underestimating how many fantasies women really have. We do have them, plent of them. Sadly, society has many of us so uptight that we think if we let someone in on the dirty little thoughts we have, we'd be outcast as a whore.

    Some fantasies are better left to yourself. Your own nirvana, your own personal spank bank. Some are much better shared with your S.O.

    Outwardly flirting with or oggling/drooling over the opposite sex in front of your SO and leaving your SO to stew over it is just plain rude in my book. I've dated, been head-over-heels for someone, done my share of one night stands, been married. I'm confident enough in myself to know that men look and so do women. If I'm secure in a relationship, no amount of him admiring and looking or telling me he got a semi-chub seeing a hot woman that day is going to make me jealous. Jealousy is derived from insecurity. If he wants to risk losing what he has with me, I ask that he do me the courtesy of having the sack to leave before he does it.

    I may also joke about not wanting flowers/candy. It's not to say I never want anything romantic. Guys are ready to go at a moment's notice...well, sometimes women are too.
    believe it or not, we don't "need" anything. that is only the spoiled brat in us trying to fill some temporary solution to an emptyness that does not exist.

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  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    I love this board...lol. :D
  • writersuwritersu Posts: 1,867
    Married should be able to sleep with other women.
    Just for the sex, hardcore sex with no strings.
    We are not built to only be with one girl. I am faithful and I always will be but FUCK!! Its hard man. (No pun intended).
    My wife is gonna whip my ass if she reads this.


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  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    I love this board...lol. :D

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  • WhizbangWhizbang Posts: 1,314
    catch22 wrote:
    truly exposing yourself would be.... wait, you wanted to hear our fantasies right? :)

    uhmmm....go on? this is working for me at the moment, keep going... ;)
    believe it or not, we don't "need" anything. that is only the spoiled brat in us trying to fill some temporary solution to an emptyness that does not exist.

    I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29

    Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    and did i specify sharing EVERY one? nope. we all have some things to yourselves and for ourselves. just b/c your partner may ask you to share...doesn't suggest you have to share EVERYthing.

    and perhaps some of you gentlemen are underestimating just how many women have such open minds...and how many fantasties WE may have.

    again..indeed...it does go both ways.
    i think men have continued to carry on this 'delicate flower' sensibility in regards to women for far too long. try up out, open up...what have you got to lose? you live and you learn. the longer you are with someone, trust someone, grow confident in yourself and your relationship...the more at ease you feel with truly sharing yourself.

    I was referring to GTFLYGIRL's post in which she said 'talk ALL about it' and don't hide it because you think women are delicate little flowers.

    I think very little people would like to hear ALL about it. You seem to agree and I think catch22 agrees as well and GTFLYGIRL too.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • TrailerTrailer Posts: 1,431
    My whole take is that women are fighting for equality in everything.. from the workplace to the bedroom. Most of the women I know are just as horny as the guys.

    With that said, I don't think a lot of them would like to hear about who their men want to fuck. You'd have to be in a strong, healthy, and understanding relationship for that to work. Same can be said about men.. I wouldn't want to hear about how my girlfriend wants to fuck the guy she works with.:eek: Unless we had been together for a long time, and our sex life was starting to get really boring.. then maybe I could see using that to arouse the stimilus.
    Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    Whizbang wrote:
    uhmmm....go on? this is working for me at the moment, keep going... ;)

    why are all the board vixens trying to get me banned?

    :D
    and like that... he's gone.
  • WhizbangWhizbang Posts: 1,314
    catch22 wrote:
    why are all the board vixens trying to get me banned?

    :D

    my bad....no, no banning....pm it to me then... ;)
    believe it or not, we don't "need" anything. that is only the spoiled brat in us trying to fill some temporary solution to an emptyness that does not exist.

    I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29

    Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    i think men have continued to carry on this 'delicate flower' sensibility in regards to women for far too long.

    We live a world apart, really.

    The more I post here the more I realise how different the collective mentality of our nations are. Maybe it's an age gap too.

    This delicate flower idea is not really alive here, at least not among my friends and people I know...
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • Dylan StoneDylan Stone Posts: 1,145
    catch22 wrote:
    that's what i thought. that's why i said bullshit. i assumed you meant you were all cool with and wanting to hear about every instance of us wanting to screw other girls. and there are a LOT. like, dozens daily.

    there's a world of difference between generically saying "i want him to share his fantasies with me" and saying what you said about wanting to hear about how turned on he was by the hottie on the bus. cos that to me, indicates the description i just quoted. we must not have been on the same page.

    Just as much as i would want to hear about something BIG that happened at work. Not about every damn phone call. Something a bit extraordinary... bring it.

    At the right time in the right place, hopefully.

    ;)
  • ... but I know I am going to put a bit of a damper on all this chat. I wanted to add to the mix something that's not been mentioned (or at least I didn't read it yet). There's been no mention of sexual addiction, obsession or compulsion. Let me add I am no expert on the matter, but did study it during my pursuit for a degree in sociology. My suggestion to anyone thinking about acting out their sexual fantasies in ways that might be hurtful to one's s.o.- or one's self - would be to read any number of books by Patrick Carnes, Ph.D.

    I'm just saying. Sex - depending on one's history/experiences - isn't always wonderful, natural and positive.

    I know that is "too serious", but whatever.

    And good for all of you people who have a healthy sexual appetite and attitude !
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    GTFLYGIRL wrote:
    Two questions...one honest and second sarcastic.

    1. Honestly...if you would care to respond? Approximately how old are you?

    2. Who the hell have you been hanging out with???

    And...for the record... ha... cyberspace.

    For many, many, many of us... this board is ANYTHING but anonymous!!! :D

    ANYTHING BUT!!!! :D

    Anyone want to vouch that i am the real me??


    Can you see the real me????? ;)

    I'll vouch... the GTFLYGIRL you see on this board is as real as the one I know in real life... if anything she may pull some punches here for those who may not be strong enough to handle her in all her glory... :D
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    catch22 wrote:
    1. i can tell you exactly how old i am: 26.

    2. what do you want? names and addresses? these are old college friends, professional coworkers, fellow law students, other people and friends from all walks of life and all ages. this isn't like my high school drama team or anything. i'm not sure what you were looking for... some way to pigeonhole me, i'm sure. so let's see what you can come up with.

    i'm sure you're the real you, i just suspect you are vastly simplifying and overstating things here, as i have been in various points of this thread. i find it almost impossible to believe you are the only human being utterly immune to jealousy and insecurity and that it never bothers you in the least to hear someone you love talking in detail about how badly they want to fuck other people. if that is the case, hats off to you. you're a rare specimen. but to most of us guys trying to get laid in the real world, it's all about playing the odds. and the odds are that unless you want to have a REALLY bad week, when you're with your girl, you check other girls out VERY discreetly and you keep your mouth shut about finding any of them attractive.

    Oh, so you've met her then?

















    You wish! :p:D
  • writersuwritersu Posts: 1,867
    ... but I know I am going to put a bit of a damper on all this chat. I wanted to add to the mix something that's not been mentioned (or at least I didn't read it yet). There's been no mention of sexual addiction, obsession or compulsion. Let me add I am no expert on the matter, but did study it during my pursuit for a degree in sociology. My suggestion to anyone thinking about acting out their sexual fantasies in ways that might be hurtful to one's s.o.- or one's self - would be to read any number of books by Patrick Carnes, Ph.D.

    I'm just saying. Sex - depending on one's history/experiences - isn't always wonderful, natural and positive.

    I know that is "too serious", but whatever.

    And good for all of you people who have a healthy sexual appetite and attitude !


    it's so funny you say that because I have thought of guys I knew when I was young and thought "what would they be like now?" and then realized that if I did decide to go that route, if they were disappointing then I would lose my self respect and have wasted the whole experience on an unworthy person ........
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  • stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
    wow, we're still stuck on this thread huh?

    Thank you for the fantasies you fine ladies have created for me upon reading this thread caue lets face it..having met some of you and hung with others even more...yea...:D:D:D Pearl Jam hotties rule!

    now lets live out our fantasies...or let me keep fantasizing, whatever works for yall, lol
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  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    ... but I know I am going to put a bit of a damper on all this chat. I wanted to add to the mix something that's not been mentioned (or at least I didn't read it yet). There's been no mention of sexual addiction, obsession or compulsion. Let me add I am no expert on the matter, but did study it during my pursuit for a degree in sociology. My suggestion to anyone thinking about acting out their sexual fantasies in ways that might be hurtful to one's s.o.- or one's self - would be to read any number of books by Patrick Carnes, Ph.D.

    I'm just saying. Sex - depending on one's history/experiences - isn't always wonderful, natural and positive.

    I know that is "too serious", but whatever.

    And good for all of you people who have a healthy sexual appetite and attitude !

    it's a distinct possibility with me. i've got all kinds of addictions already and spent 13 years of hard time in the catholic school system, so you know i've got issues ;)
    and like that... he's gone.
  • in_hiding79in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    catch22 wrote:
    why are all the board vixens trying to get me banned?

    :D


    hahahahahahaaha :D
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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Collin wrote:
    I was referring to GTFLYGIRL's post in which she said 'talk ALL about it' and don't hide it because you think women are delicate little flowers.

    I think very little people would like to hear ALL about it. You seem to agree and I think catch22 agrees as well and GTFLYGIRL too.


    well, i am not going to go back and quote her post, but MY understanding of her saying 'talk ALL about it'...she was referring to telling her ALL about the one particular incident, the hot chick on the subway...and was not actually referencing to tell ALL about every, single sexual fantasy. might be my incorrect inference..or yours...but i think it may be yours. ;)





    and whiz...i tried to get the book, and it was out of stock. :(
    my borders books coupon wasd expiring today, so i will wait for another coupon.....and then i shall order it. :) very inspired reading i imagine from what i looked into on amazon. nice suggestion.


    and scb...you now make me curious. i too know gtfgirl in 'real life'...so wonder if you are a fellow NYer and/or if we ever met. hmmmm. next tour or next meet-up! :)
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  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    well, i am not going to go back and quote her post, but MY understanding of her saying 'talk ALL about it'...she was referring to telling her ALL about the one particular incident, the hot chick on the subway...and was not actually referencing to tell ALL about every, single sexual fantasy. might be my incorrect inference..or yours...but i think it may be yours. ;)

    and whiz...i tried to get the book, and it was out of stock. :(
    my borders books coupon wasd expiring today, so i will wait for another coupon.....and then i shall order it. :) very inspired reading i imagine from what i looked into on amazon. nice suggestion.

    and scb...you now make me curious. i too know gtfgirl in 'real life'...so wonder if you are a fellow NYer and/or if we ever met. hmmmm. next tour or next meet-up! :)

    collin and i made the same inference. must be a guy thing. we get like deer in headlights when a woman wants to know what we're thinking. it's like freezing when you hear that 'click' as you step on a landmine... you know pain is coming next but hope maybe if you're really quiet, you can somehow be saved!

    borders and their damn coupons are bankrupting me! last year i got 30% off of $1000 worth of books i never would have bought without those damn things :) i'm curious about this mystery book that is so controversial just the title would get someone banned?
    and like that... he's gone.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    catch22 wrote:
    collin and i made the same inference. must be a guy thing. we get like deer in headlights when a woman wants to know what we're thinking. it's like freezing when you hear that 'click' as you step on a landmine... you know pain is coming next but hope maybe if you're really quiet, you can somehow be saved!

    borders and their damn coupons are bankrupting me! last year i got 30% off of $1000 worth of books i never would have bought without those damn things :) i'm curious about this mystery book that is so controversial just the title would get someone banned?




    maybe it's a young, single guy thing. i know my husband LOVES when i want to know what's on his mind...and vice versa. we both willingly ASK...and share. in fact, the other night this thread inspired a very inspired discussion. ;)


    someone earlier made mention...i think trailer? about being in a long, commited relationship being the most probable way for such exchanges to occur. i DO believe it is very possible with newer relationships, just depends on those involved...but i will say, overall...i agree. that well-established trust and intimacy.....and keeping up the variety.....just adds to more trust and intimacy...and sure, racy passion and fun. it really is a win-win situation, and amazing how much you can surprise yourself, and your partner...and how much 'new'..and exciting, fun things you can learn, share, experiement, etc...with someone sooo long a part of your life.



    btw - the title would not get one banned. whizbang is simply being appropriate in an ALL-ages forum and not putting a title easily looked up, and possibly ordered...in the hands of minors who really should not be reading, or accessing such. how novel, someone respecting the board guidelines eh? ;)


    enjoy the rest of your sunday all.....off for italian.
    btw - good flick, the new woody allen vicky christina barcelona. hubby and i saw it today, and let's just say it fits in quite nicely with this thread topic.
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