I still think that men get blamed for failed marriages/relaitionships when it could have been the woman's fault. I don't know, but both cheat.
[size=-2]If my marriage fails I will get the blame for sure. But, not because I'm a cheater, rather because I'm a fiercely independent stubborn little thing who likes to fly under the radar leaving people completely confused on where they stand with me until I've had it with them. TMI??? Sorry, not trying to hijack. Just tucking a little frustration away in a hard to find place.[/size]
I do think women catch some blame for the failing of marriages. However, child custody hearings don't seem to reflect that. :rolleyes:
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i don't ready those magazines myself, it's like some chick circle-jerk of man bashing sometimes. i'd rather bash everybody regardless of gender, just cuz that's how i roll
men cheat, women cheat, there are assholes everywhere. HAPPY FRIDAY haha
Why would a man cheat if he could just have sex with the person he always want to have sex with? Because it doesn't work that way (assuming he's not a rapist). Females select the best mate, not men.
so...there's a good chance your husband/boyfriend doesn't really want to be with you, you just forced him into it?
i don't ready those magazines myself, it's like some chick circle-jerk of man bashing sometimes. i'd rather bash everybody regardless of gender, just cuz that's how i roll
men cheat, women cheat, there are assholes everywhere. HAPPY FRIDAY haha
so...there's a good chance your husband/boyfriend doesn't really want to be with you, you just forced him into it?
No. I'm saying you can literally go around your office right now, start asking guys to have sex with you, and you'll find 10 who are willing in about 2 minutes. I might do that for 2 years and not find one woman willing. I'm just saying there are instincts at play. They don't control us, so it's not completely involuntary, but that does play SOME role. And that role is not equal between us. That's all.
Like d2d said, bottom line....cheating is a choice for both men and women.
No. I'm saying you can literally go around your office right now, start asking guys to have sex with you, and you'll find 10 who are willing in about 2 minutes. I might do that for 2 years and not find one woman willing. I'm just saying there are instincts at play. They don't control us, so it's not completely involuntary, but that does play SOME role. And that role is not equal between us. That's all.
Like d2d said, bottom line....cheating is a choice for both men and women.
There is a girl here in the office that does that...I'm serious!!
And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
No. I'm saying you can literally go around your office right now, start asking guys to have sex with you, and you'll find 10 who are willing in about 2 minutes.
I've never really bought this whole men will have sex with anyone thing.
No. I'm saying you can literally go around your office right now, start asking guys to have sex with you, and you'll find 10 who are willing in about 2 minutes. I might do that for 2 years and not find one woman willing. I'm just saying there are instincts at play. They don't control us, so it's not completely involuntary, but that does play SOME role. And that role is not equal between us. That's all.
Like d2d said, bottom line....cheating is a choice for both men and women.
i think you grossly over or under? estimate both the average man's standards and womens..... and women's beauty. it is ALL soooo subjective.
I've never really bought this whole men will have sex with anyone thing.
I'm not saying that either. There are no absolutes here. It is all a choice with us ultimately. There are just many things that factor into making these choices, and instinct is one of them.
WHAT?? REALLY?? I always thought as long as she was female, men will have sex with her!
are you kidding me? if this is case why are women spending so much time/effort/money on having the perfect body, shaving their legs, getting rid of zits, getting rid of wrinkles, wearing slutty clothes, trying to be taller, trying to be shorter, whitening teeth, trying to be cleaner, shaving their armpits, going on diets, getting liposuction, getting boob jobs, wearing girdles...and then we're STILL not good enough to sleep with?
are you kidding me? if this is case why are women spending so much time/effort/money on having the perfect body, shaving their legs, getting rid of zits, getting rid of wrinkles, wearing slutty clothes, trying to be taller, trying to be shorter, whitening teeth, trying to be cleaner, shaving their armpits, going on diets, getting liposuction, getting boob jobs, wearing girdles...and then we're STILL not good enough to sleep with?
THose are women trying to snag a younger guy or a guy with money! Men will still have sex with any girl, now he might not call her the day after, but he will have sex with her!!
And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
THose are women trying to snag a younger guy or a guy with money! Men will still have sex with any girl, now he might not call her the day after, but he will have sex with her!!
I dunno I still don't buy it. men are repulsed by women's appearances pretty easily.
are you kidding me? if this is case why are women spending so much time/effort/money on having the perfect body, shaving their legs, getting rid of zits, getting rid of wrinkles, wearing slutty clothes, trying to be taller, trying to be shorter, whitening teeth, trying to be cleaner, shaving their armpits, going on diets, getting liposuction, getting boob jobs, wearing girdles...and then we're STILL not good enough to sleep with?
Men do most of those things too. Not a day goes by that I don't regret getting my implants.
"The leads are weak!"
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
not between ALL men and women, but sure some. even amongst men, or just women, i am sure the *needs* vary greatly. i think the rest is all cultural myth, or at most...lsight edge to male needs, but none the less...not a statistically significant enough difference. i think i't s acrutch, a copout, bullshit. it IS all choice. bottomline...it's no *excuse*....that's all.
You may be right that the ultimate choice is a concious educated decision to cheat in this day an age, but there is a lot more to it than that.
But anthropology tells us that the males main purpose for living is to procreate as often as possibe, while the female needs to abstain from procreating until the best suitor comes along.
This is true in the animal kingdom as well.
There is a lot more than "cultural myth" behind the males need to procreate-and even though we live in a modern society, some of the innate sub concious urges have evolved into the need for multiple sex partners, even after committing to one person. Just saying its a lot more complicated than you post suggests.
You may be right that the ultimate choice is a concious educated decision to cheat in this day an age, but there is a lot more to it than that.
But anthropology tells us that the males main purpose for living is to procreate as often as possibe, while the female needs to abstain from procreating until the best suitor comes along.
This is true in the animal kingdom as well.
There is a lot more than "cultural myth" behind the males need to procreate-and even though we live in a modern society, some of the innate sub concious urges have evolved into the need for multiple sex partners, even after committing to one person. Just saying its a lot more complicated than you post suggests.
i know all the *science* behind it, and i STILL say that even on that biological level, it ain't all that. agree...disagree...c'est la vie. i just don't think the difference is THAT substantive, and certainly not enough to cause *involuntary* need for cheating. i call copout/lamearse excuses/BS.
and NOT all animals follow that same drive, and vary within those sexual drives. some ARE *programmed* to be monogamous, others...not so much. so even within the *science* of it, i don't think enough substantive proof to correlate an *involuntary* need to fuck around. just my little ole opinion.
taking it a step further in our cultural climate, i DO agree, female infidelity is on the rise....not to do with anything bioligocal, and i'd guess everything to do with independence, having emotional and physical needs unmet, etc. so yes.....with a more level playing field, most of us like to fuck for fuck's sake if/when we can, depending on our own personal moral code, needs, desires, etc. so still...CHOICE.
btw - i don't think ANy of my posts masqueraded as saying any of it is *simply*...merely calling it out as it is, and when i hear bullshite...i call it. to say that cheating may be rooted in *involuntary* needs, i am sorry, is bullshit. even with that preprogrammed *drive*....i still say choice trumps anything involuntary, and instinct may be.....but there's STILL choice in it. no excuses, that's my only point.
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[size=-2]If my marriage fails I will get the blame for sure. But, not because I'm a cheater, rather because I'm a fiercely independent stubborn little thing who likes to fly under the radar leaving people completely confused on where they stand with me until I've had it with them. TMI???
I do think women catch some blame for the failing of marriages. However, child custody hearings don't seem to reflect that. :rolleyes:
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"We've laid the groundwork. It's like planting the seeds. And next year, it's spring." - Nader
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Prepare for tending to your garden, America.
i don't ready those magazines myself, it's like some chick circle-jerk of man bashing sometimes. i'd rather bash everybody regardless of gender, just cuz that's how i roll
men cheat, women cheat, there are assholes everywhere. HAPPY FRIDAY haha
so...there's a good chance your husband/boyfriend doesn't really want to be with you, you just forced him into it?
LOL!
Like d2d said, bottom line....cheating is a choice for both men and women.
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"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
There is a girl here in the office that does that...I'm serious!!
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
I've never really bought this whole men will have sex with anyone thing.
WHAT?? REALLY?? I always thought as long as she was female, men will have sex with her!
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
i think you grossly over or under? estimate both the average man's standards and womens..... and women's beauty.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
are you kidding me? if this is case why are women spending so much time/effort/money on having the perfect body, shaving their legs, getting rid of zits, getting rid of wrinkles, wearing slutty clothes, trying to be taller, trying to be shorter, whitening teeth, trying to be cleaner, shaving their armpits, going on diets, getting liposuction, getting boob jobs, wearing girdles...and then we're STILL not good enough to sleep with?
yeah this is what I meant...I'm a women and I can say I've been turned down way, way, way, way, way more times than I've been taken up.
THose are women trying to snag a younger guy or a guy with money! Men will still have sex with any girl, now he might not call her the day after, but he will have sex with her!!
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
You're kidding me, right?
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
I dunno I still don't buy it. men are repulsed by women's appearances pretty easily.
um, no.
they will still want to have sex with her!! Maybe not a relaitionship, but SEX will happen!!
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
Men do most of those things too. Not a day goes by that I don't regret getting my implants.
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
"What's your name?"
"FUCK YOU! THAT"S MY NAME!"
hehehehehe
You are so silly!!
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
I get what you're arguing, but I just don't buy it. I spent 4 years in college trying to hook up every drunken weekend and never could.
I find no truth in that...
Were you at an all girl's College?
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
no!
lol
this is so weird!!
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
You may be right that the ultimate choice is a concious educated decision to cheat in this day an age, but there is a lot more to it than that.
But anthropology tells us that the males main purpose for living is to procreate as often as possibe, while the female needs to abstain from procreating until the best suitor comes along.
This is true in the animal kingdom as well.
There is a lot more than "cultural myth" behind the males need to procreate-and even though we live in a modern society, some of the innate sub concious urges have evolved into the need for multiple sex partners, even after committing to one person. Just saying its a lot more complicated than you post suggests.
i know all the *science* behind it, and i STILL say that even on that biological level, it ain't all that.
and NOT all animals follow that same drive, and vary within those sexual drives. some ARE *programmed* to be monogamous, others...not so much. so even within the *science* of it, i don't think enough substantive proof to correlate an *involuntary* need to fuck around. just my little ole opinion.
taking it a step further in our cultural climate, i DO agree, female infidelity is on the rise....not to do with anything bioligocal, and i'd guess everything to do with independence, having emotional and physical needs unmet, etc. so yes.....with a more level playing field, most of us like to fuck for fuck's sake if/when we can, depending on our own personal moral code, needs, desires, etc. so still...CHOICE.
btw - i don't think ANy of my posts masqueraded as saying any of it is *simply*...merely calling it out as it is, and when i hear bullshite...i call it. to say that cheating may be rooted in *involuntary* needs, i am sorry, is bullshit. even with that preprogrammed *drive*....i still say choice trumps anything involuntary, and instinct may be.....but there's STILL choice in it. no excuses, that's my only point.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow