The Official Philadelphia Flyers Thread

The Fixer

Phantom Pain wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

Anyone been watching the van/sj series? Ryan Kesler plays how carter should play. They are pretty close in size. Huge difference in the passion, desire, and will to win. If carter played with half the intensity of kesler he would be one of the best forwards in the NHL. He's such a waste of talent.

EDIT: wish the flyers kept downie too. LOVE that dude. He's played great in the playoffs

You do know when Clarkie was still the GM he had signed Kesler to an offer sheet when he was a restricted free-agent

Van Matched obviously

How things would have been different

definitely don't remember that.

kesler is what carter should be. I really hope they trade him

Johnny Abruzzo

Phantom Pain wrote:

Horrible

WTF is that?

Phantom Pain

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

Horrible

WTF is that?

Sadly the Jersey's they'll be wearing

Even JVR had the pic on twitter

Phantom Pain

The Fixer wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

Anyone been watching the van/sj series? Ryan Kesler plays how carter should play. They are pretty close in size. Huge difference in the passion, desire, and will to win. If carter played with half the intensity of kesler he would be one of the best forwards in the NHL. He's such a waste of talent.

EDIT: wish the flyers kept downie too. LOVE that dude. He's played great in the playoffs

You do know when Clarkie was still the GM he had signed Kesler to an offer sheet when he was a restricted free-agent

Van Matched obviously

How things would have been different

definitely don't remember that.

kesler is what carter should be. I really hope they trade him

This was before Kesler was a stud like now

More of a yapper with potential when they offered him the contract

The Fixer

Phantom Pain wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

You do know when Clarkie was still the GM he had signed Kesler to an offer sheet when he was a restricted free-agent

Van Matched obviously

How things would have been different

definitely don't remember that.

kesler is what carter should be. I really hope they trade him

This was before Kesler was a stud like now

More of a yapper with potential when they offered him the contract

dude plays his ass off. Love it. a pleasure to watch

Phantom Pain

The Fixer wrote:

dude plays his ass off. Love it. a pleasure to watch

yeah..he started to play hockey and focus less on the other bs

would have been a great signing

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Phantom Pain wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

Horrible

WTF is that?

Sadly the Jersey's they'll be wearing

Even JVR had the pic on twitter

i sort of like it in a sick perverted way

Phantom Pain

you would

:P

Phantom Pain

Here's a list of the top 25 free agents and what they made last year

http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2011/04 ... ee-agents/


MyNHLtraderumors.com brings you it’s 2011 Top 25 NHL unrestricted free agents. In creating the list we didn’t just list rank on talent alone. We took into consideration: age, position, and likelihood of signing with a different team. Ie. Niklas Lidstrom and Teemu Selanne would make the list based on talent, but if they return next season it would only be with their ’10-’11 clubs.





# Player Pos. 2010-2011 Team 10-11 Cap # 2011-2012 Team
1 Brad Richards C Dallas Stars $7,800,000
2 Ilya Bryzgalov G Phoenix Coyotes $4,250,000
3 Christian Ehrhoff D Vancouver Canucks $3,100,000
4 Brooks Laich C/LW Washington Capitals $2,067,000
5 James Wisniewski D Montreal Canadiens $3,250,000
6 Joni Pitkanen D Carolina Hurricanes $4,000,000
7 Tomas Kaberle D Boston Bruins $4,250,000
8 Kevin Bieska D Vancouver Canucks $3,750,000
9 Tomas Fleischmann C/LW Colorado Avalanche $2,600,000
10 Jussi Jokinen LW Carolina Hurricanes $1,700,000
11 Tomas Vokoun G Florida Panthers $5,700,000
12 Michal Handzus C Los Angeles Kings $4,000,000
13 Andrei Markov D Montreal Canadiens $5,750,000
14 Curtis Glencross LW Calgary Flames $1,200,000 Re-signed with the Flames. 4 years, $10.2 million.
15 Ed Jovanovski D Phoenix Coyotes $6,500,000
16 Jason Arnott C Washington Capitals $4,500,000
17 Alex Tanguay LW Calgary Flames $1,700,000
18 Tim Connolly C Buffalo Sabres $4,500,000
19 Roman Hamrlik D Montreal Canadiens $5,500,000
20 Bryan McCabe D New York Rangers $5,750,000
21 Ville Leino LW Philadelphia Flyers $800,000
22 Milan Hejduk RW Colorado Avalanche $3,000,000 Re-signed with the Avalanche. 1 year, $2.6 million. Up to $3 million with bonuses.
23 Eric Brewer D Tampa Bay Lightning $4,250,000
24 Simon Gagne LW Tampa Bay Lightning $5,250,000
25 Tomas Kopecky

The Fixer

pretty ugly list. laich is probably the best fit at forward.

I could see gagne coming back on a cheap one year deal.

Phantom Pain

The Fixer wrote:

pretty ugly list. laich is probably the best fit at forward.

I could see gagne coming back on a cheap one year deal.

Laich is a nice fit for this team and style

I wouldnt mind Leino back

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Phantom Pain wrote:

Here's a list of the top 25 free agents and what they made last year

http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2011/04 ... ee-agents/


MyNHLtraderumors.com brings you it’s 2011 Top 25 NHL unrestricted free agents. In creating the list we didn’t just list rank on talent alone. We took into consideration: age, position, and likelihood of signing with a different team. Ie. Niklas Lidstrom and Teemu Selanne would make the list based on talent, but if they return next season it would only be with their ’10-’11 clubs.





# Player Pos. 2010-2011 Team 10-11 Cap # 2011-2012 Team
1 Brad Richards C Dallas Stars $7,800,000
2 Ilya Bryzgalov G Phoenix Coyotes $4,250,000
3 Christian Ehrhoff D Vancouver Canucks $3,100,000
4 Brooks Laich C/LW Washington Capitals $2,067,000
5 James Wisniewski D Montreal Canadiens $3,250,000
6 Joni Pitkanen D Carolina Hurricanes $4,000,000
7 Tomas Kaberle D Boston Bruins $4,250,000
8 Kevin Bieska D Vancouver Canucks $3,750,000
9 Tomas Fleischmann C/LW Colorado Avalanche $2,600,000
10 Jussi Jokinen LW Carolina Hurricanes $1,700,000
11 Tomas Vokoun G Florida Panthers $5,700,000
12 Michal Handzus C Los Angeles Kings $4,000,000
13 Andrei Markov D Montreal Canadiens $5,750,000
14 Curtis Glencross LW Calgary Flames $1,200,000 Re-signed with the Flames. 4 years, $10.2 million.
15 Ed Jovanovski D Phoenix Coyotes $6,500,000
16 Jason Arnott C Washington Capitals $4,500,000
17 Alex Tanguay LW Calgary Flames $1,700,000
18 Tim Connolly C Buffalo Sabres $4,500,000
19 Roman Hamrlik D Montreal Canadiens $5,500,000
20 Bryan McCabe D New York Rangers $5,750,000
21 Ville Leino LW Philadelphia Flyers $800,000
22 Milan Hejduk RW Colorado Avalanche $3,000,000 Re-signed with the Avalanche. 1 year, $2.6 million. Up to $3 million with bonuses.
23 Eric Brewer D Tampa Bay Lightning $4,250,000
24 Simon Gagne LW Tampa Bay Lightning $5,250,000
25 Tomas Kopecky

it's like a who's who of flyers past and presnt

Phantom Pain

Hated Pitkanen

MFCarissa

The Flyers have acquired Bryzgalov's negotiating rights. This doesn't make much sense, since they are up against the cap as it is, and Bryz wants top dollar.

The Fixer

MFCarissa wrote:

The Flyers have acquired Bryzgalov's negotiating rights. This doesn't make much sense, since they are up against the cap as it is, and Bryz wants top dollar.

Just saw this. They have made a lot of these moves in the past. Some have worked (timonen/hartnell) and some have not (hamhuis).

Hopefully carter is traded for a bag of pucks next

EDIT: looks like ed snider is going to have some money to burn after he dumps the cancer that is the sixers franchise. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Just got the email....hopefully they can sign him.

Phantom Pain

Gotta love them being aggressive

I heard the cap is going up also but either way someone has to be traded to make room

Bryzgalov this year in the playoffs: 0-4, 4.36 GAA, .879 SP%

2010 playoffs 3.44 GAA .906 SP% 3-4

Phantom Pain

Flyers acquire rights to Bryzgalov from Phoenix






By Tim Panaccio
CSNPhilly.com

Rich Winter, who has represented his share of competitive goalies over the years, doesn’t mince words about Ilya Bryzgalov.

“If your study his performance the last couple of years, the only Flyer goaltender to have a statistical performance like that was Bernie Parent,” Winter said of his newest client.

“Look at the best two seasons a Flyer goaltender ever had and the only one who ever had a performance like that was Parent in back-to-back seasons when the Flyers won the Stanley Cup.”

Parent posted a .933 save percentage in 1973-74 and .919 save percentage the next season – the only two years the Flyers won a Cup.

Bryzgalov posted a .920 save percentage in 2009-10 and .921 this past year in Phoenix.

On Tuesday night, the Flyers acquired the 30-year-old Bryzgalov’s negotiating rights from the Coyotes in exchange for left wing Matt Clackson, plus the Flyers’ third-round pick in 2012, and a conditional draft pick.

Once again, general manager Paul Holmgren is attempting to strike first before Bryzgalov becomes a free agent on July 1.

Holmgren has employed this move before – acquiring rights before free agency – going back to 2007 with Kimmo Timonen and Scott Hartnell.

He did it last summer, too, by trading for Evgeni Nabokov’s rights (from San Jose) at the NHL draft. The Flyers failed to sign Nabokov.

“We’re going to give it our best shot,” Holmgren said of Bryzgalov. “You give up an asset to get in early, so we have every intention of trying to get a deal done.”

Winter will be looking for a minimum of a four-year deal worth at least $5 million a season for Bryzgalov, who has six years of NHL experience.

“We’ll see what we can do,” Holmgren said of signing the Russian goalie. “He’s certainly not an old goaltender. I feel like he has a lot of good years left in him. We’ll see how it goes. When you get into a negotiation like this you are dealing with a salary cap and you try to get a number you can live with.”

For all practical purposes, the Flyers need to clear about $5 million in cap space, although the New York Post reported the cap may rise to as much as $63 million next season from its present level of $59.4.

In other words, the amount of space the Flyers need to sign Bryzgalov could decrease in the weeks ahead once the cap is set for 2011-12. Right now, the Flyers have less than $450,000 cap space going into next season.

“Once we know what the salary cap is for next year we’ll have a better idea of what we have to do down the road,” Holmgren said. “We have options.”

Holmgren and the organization have said in recent months they feel Sergei Bobrovsky is their goalie of the future, but needs another year or two of development.

Four or five years might be a stretch to sign Bryzgalov. Holmgren was asked during a conference call about whether he felt confident “Bob” was still his goalie of the future. This time, he seemed to back off on his earlier pronouncement that “Bob” was.

“I don’t know,” Holmgren replied. “We’ll see if we can get a deal done with Ilya. I still think the world of Sergei and I think he’s one of the top young goalies in our game.

“Having said that, and again as I said at the end of the year, we continue to try to make our team better. Right now, the position we’ve put ourselves in, negotiating with Ilya, if we can get him signed it’ll make our team better.”

Flyers chairman Ed Snider said last month he wants the goalie position solidified. It’s not a stretch to say that the club’s nagging question mark during so many years from the late 1990s till now has been in goal.

As good as Michael Leighton was in last June’s Cup Final against Chicago, he was mediocre in the Final while Antti Niemi was average and won the Cup for the Blackhawks.

“Our idea is to put ourselves in the position to win the Stanley Cup,” Holmgren said. “We haven’t really had an opportunity to talk to Ilya’s agent yet. Once we get the ball rolling there we’ll see if we can get him signed.

“If we do I think we’ll have one of the best goaltending tandems in the league. I feel confident in saying that, anyway.”

Bryzgalov made the Coyotes a competitive team – essentially carrying the club start to finish – in the Pacific Division which was easily the most competitive in the Western Conference.

In many ways, every game Bryzgalov started for Phoenix, which doesn’t have the talent of San Jose or even Los Angeles, forced him into almost a playoff mode. He represented his team’s best chance of winning on a nightly basis these past four seasons.

Bryzgalov appeared in 68 games last year with a 2.48 goals-against average and a .921 save percentage. He had seven shutouts (the Flyers had none last season).

He is a former runner-up for the Vezina Trophy (2009-10) and was the backup to J.S. Giguere in 2007 when Anaheim won the Cup. He’s played with both Chris Pronger and Sean O’Donnell.

In 27 career playoff games, he is 12-13 with a 2.55 GAA and .917 save percentage.

Winter, who found out about the trade late Tuesday, said he had an “inkling” that the Flyers might move to get his rights. Holmgren said he had not spoken to Winter yet.

One question is whether Bryzgalov can “mentor” Bobrovsky. As a source told CSNPhilly.com last month, this probably would not be Bryzgalov’s strong suit. Put it this way: goalie coach Jeff Reese has a tight relationship with “Bob.”

Yet, there’s something to say for Bobrovsky having a fellow Russian to lean on.

“I don’t know him that well – in fact I hardly know him at all,” Holmgren said of Bryzgalov.

“Just from talking to some of our guys … when Chris Pronger and Sean O’Donnell played with him he was a young kid behind [J.S.] Giguere. Some of the information we have on him from his days in Phoenix, it’s all good.

“He’s a team guy, and he must have gotten along pretty well with the guy who was playing behind him in Phoenix. I don’t see an issue with that. I think the fact that they’re both Russians probably would help.”

One thing Bryzgalov brings the Flyers is some pedigree. Again, he backstopped a team that was many degrees lesser than the Flyers.

“I know last season he and his team took Detroit to seven games in a hard-fought series, and this year was obviously not as good for Phoenix in the playoffs, but he’s one of the better goalies in the league,” Holmgren said.

“You can make the argument that he’s among the top 10 goalies in the league, if not higher.”

If the Flyers sign him, this will likely kill any chance of re-signing Ville Leino, who turned down offers from the club last season that would have guaranteed him $3 million a year.

Matt Read, the 24-year-old collegian the Flyers signed in May, has been slotted into Leino’s spot on the roster. Unless Leino signs for less money, he won’t be back.

“Obviously, we still have the intention of trying to sign Ville,” Holmgren said. “With the salary cap, you can only do so much. We’re trying to get the best team we can get to get ready for the 2011 season. We’ll see how it goes. There’s a lot of things that need to happen between now and July 1. We’re going to see what we can do.”

Holmgren wants to get a deal done with Bryzgalov before July 1 and ideally would like to have it announced by the NHL draft later this month.

Winter said Bryzgalov was “excited” at the news but … a contract is still a long ways off.

Winter has represented a number of NHL goalies, including Domink Hasek, Ron Hextall and Grant Fuhr.

Now he represents Bryzgalov, who could get an opportunity to play for a Cup in Philly.

“He’s carried teams,” Winter said.

Whether he carry the Flyers through the month of June remains to be seen.

fife

Maybe it just me but i don't Bryzalov as our goalie for 5 years. If bob is the goalie of the future then why not go for a Vokoun or someone like that who can mentor Bob.

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fife wrote:

Maybe it just me but i don't Bryzalov as our goalie for 5 years. If bob is the goalie of the future then why not go for a Vokoun or someone like that who can mentor Bob.

if this guy is as good as they are making him out to be, you ride him and either play bob 20 games a year or you trade him. being that they should get bob for cheap, i would keep him as the backup unless somebody offered up a lot of value for him.

i want to win now, not in 5 years