open relationships

decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
edited March 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
recipe for disaster.....or doable with the right couple/open minds?



thoughts?
just a conversation starter for a grey monday afternoon...........;)
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  • upina2001upina2001 Indiana Posts: 764
    trouble.

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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    upina2001 wrote:
    trouble.



    but in a good way or a bad way?
    and really...how bad, is it good?
    ;)




    just playing devil's advocate.
    :D
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  • mindimindi Posts: 1,862
    I think they can work.
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  • No thanks. :)



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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    unless you are totally emotionless someone is going to get hurt.

    It's just all kinds of a bad idea.

    Just not worth it.
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  • patrickredeyespatrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    unless you are totally emotionless someone is going to get hurt.

    It's just all kinds of a bad idea.

    Just not worth it.


    excellent answer.
  • anothercloneanotherclone Posts: 1,688
    Being in a relationship with one person is hard enough.

    It just seems so complicated to me.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    unless you are totally emotionless someone is going to get hurt.

    It's just all kinds of a bad idea.

    Just not worth it.



    do ya really think one truly needs to be emotionless really? i mean, seriously.....can one not seperate sex and love? obviously, it is the norm NOT to do such, so stands to reason that there's overall a good reason for it not being the 'norm'...but truly....i think some couples could handle it, enjoy it, maybe even thrive? dunno. serious amount of trust, and dare i say trust in your bond/love to do so though. probably why for most, "all kinds of a bad idea." :p
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  • Being in a relationship with one person is hard enough.

    Funnily enough, that's what my boyfriend says about me.

    *Edit* (That wasn't meant to sound as self depracating as it did. More of a joke).
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Not for me.
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  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    I have never been interested in an exclusively sexual relationship. I've got to be in love. I do believe you can be in love with more than one person, but not equally committed to more. Our society is not designed like that and perhaps it's written in us. So, given all of this... PacoXXXX is right. Someone is bound to get hurt, namely the person who receives less commitment.

    That's my hard earned wisdom :)
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    I think it rarely works out. But for some people it might be perfect. Not for me, though.
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  • markymark550markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,175
    I think that some couple can be in an open relationship, but I would bet that the majority could not handle this type of relationship. My reasoning for that would be that in most cases I don't think that both persons can differentiate between sex and love. If this is true, it more than likely spells disaster for the relationship.

    I know that personally I could not be in an open relationship.
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    No way!

    I'm the jealous type, wouldn't be able to handle my woman with another man. Now if I was optioned to be with other women, then I might be down for it, ONLY for the sex but then again I might become emotionally connected with the new person too. So I'll just say no to void the troubles.

    Yeah, basically it's a no do for me.
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  • All depends on the couple...I would say some are ok with it, and most are not.

    Also, I don't think it's something you'd wanna try to add into a relationship that's already been exclusive for a long time. You won't grow stronger as a couple by sleeping with other people.

    I think it's just a simple issue of sacrifice, and focusing on what's most important to you. People get bored with having the same sex partner for a long time so they wanna have sex with different people, but at the same time, they want the security of having someone who's always there for them in other ways besides sex. Typically, you can't have both, so you should just pick one.
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    My wife has always told me to bang as many chics as I want.........

    just don't come home afterwards ;)

    I guess if both parties agree to it, it can work

    Are we talking swinging or just open as in I met some guy at the bar and now I can't walk straight
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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    My wife has always told me to bang as many chics as I want.........

    just don't come home afterwards ;)

    I guess if both parties agree to it, it can work

    Are we talking swinging or just open as in I met some guy at the bar and now I can't walk straight



    hahahahaha....awesome advice!



    as to your Q, i don't know. i am not actually looking for 'advice'....just curious what people may think. does it make a difference in your mind if it's swinging or a guy-at-the-bar-can't-walk-straight scenario? :p


    how about an added twist: what about if the love of your life, your best friend couldn't perform sexually anymore...and gave you permission for casual sex? or, what if it actually turned him/her on? i am thinking along the lines of that great film breaking the waves.


    :)
    good answers thus far, those that delved into some what-ifs and whys of it, both good and bad........
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  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    open


    as in my bedroom door is always open
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    My wife has always told me to bang as many chics as I want.........

    just don't come home afterwards ;)

    I guess if both parties agree to it, it can work

    Are we talking swinging or just open as in I met some guy at the bar and now I can't walk straight
    Haha LOL I think we're talking about swingin' but that will probably leave you "open" to other relations once you get involve in the swinging of things. ;)
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    hahahahaha....awesome advice!



    as to your Q, i don't know. i am not actually looking for 'advice'....just curious what people may think. does it make a difference in your mind if it's swinging or a guy-at-the-bar-can't-walk-straight scenario? :p


    how about an added twist: what about if the love of your life, your best friend couldn't perform sexually anymore...and gave you permission for casual sex? or, what if it actually turned him/her on? i am thinking along the lines of that great film breaking the waves.


    :)
    good answers thus far, those that delved into some what-ifs and whys of it, both good and bad........

    I think it makes a difference for if it was a swinging relationship or open

    The swinging is usually done together as a couple, but opne to me is like i said more random and a personal decision...which I would not like

    The other question about not being able to perform would be a tough one

    I saw that scenario on that HBO show where the guy would go to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch because his wife so sick and couldnt perform and she gave him permission

    The one scenario I cannot figure out is a guy who likes to watch his wife get railed by some dude :eek:
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    hahahahaha....awesome advice!



    as to your Q, i don't know. i am not actually looking for 'advice'....just curious what people may think. does it make a difference in your mind if it's swinging or a guy-at-the-bar-can't-walk-straight scenario? :p


    how about an added twist: what about if the love of your life, your best friend couldn't perform sexually anymore...and gave you permission for casual sex? or, what if it actually turned him/her on? i am thinking along the lines of that great film breaking the waves.


    :)
    good answers thus far, those that delved into some what-ifs and whys of it, both good and bad........

    damn girl pretty wild convo for a monday morn....:eek:

    i think there are rare people that can do this but i think most people would eventually want just one lover....:)

    as for the twist....if i became a paraplegic after i was married, i wouldn't have a problem if my wife found someone to "satisfy" her.....i'd probably hate it, but my problems shouldn't prevent her from living a full life.....:)
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    cutback wrote:
    as for the twist....if i became a paraplegic after i was married, i wouldn't have a problem if my wife found someone to "satisfy" her.....i'd probably hate it, but my problems shouldn't prevent her from living a full life.....:)

    PM'ing you my cell number

    ;)
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    PM'ing you my cell number

    ;)

    :p :eek:
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    cutback wrote:
    damn girl pretty wild convo for a monday morn....:eek:

    i think there are rare people that can do this but i think most people would eventually want just one lover....:)

    as for the twist....if i became a paraplegic after i was married, i wouldn't have a problem if my wife found someone to "satisfy" her.....i'd probably hate it, but my problems shouldn't prevent her from living a full life.....:)



    :D
    i try.


    was discussing the flick breaking the waves....and let's face it, it IS a pretty damn interesting convo b/c really, how many truly DO live such a lifestyle, and/or pull it off, are happy? dunno. doesn't get much talk in normal convo, so figured it was perfect abnormal convo for the AET.


    in the flick i reference, he had a bad acident, and HE actually asks her to go off and be with other men...that HE wants to know all about it. it's actually an act of love, in the film anyway.


    in real life....takes all kinds, eh? if it makes you happy....both of you...whether swinging, random hook-ups for one/both, whatever blows your hair back......no harm, no foul. to some degree, i would think...wow, what a strong/commited relationship....to be able to find that balance. i do agree with the overall assessment, VERY few could handle it.




    phantom...i am curious, why is that scenario so *off* to you? wouldn't it just be another sort of sexual fantasy/fetish? sure...again...maybe not it for MOST, but none the less.....



    btw - cutback, does it really have to be that dramatic? parapalegic? what about if you just can't get it going? :p




    oooooooooooooooo...another thought!
    wouldn't it be *better* than the countless relationships fractured/damaged by infidelity? hmmmmm...i wonder. obviously there ARE relationships that manage to be faithful for life...but there also obviously are many that are not. thoughts spin round my head........
    there's a Q to ponder! can't say i could answer either really......but i'll think about it.


    and yes, slow day thus far, hahaha. the calm before the storm to be sure!
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    btw - cutback, does it really have to be that dramatic? parapalegic? what about if you just can't get it going? :p


    me?!?! no way!!....;) :p:D
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    cutback wrote:
    me?!?! no way!!....;) :p:D



    haha!
    i don't click links at work, but i can see by quoting, good stuff! :p


    and of course, i certainly didn't mean *you*...but the hypothetical you. :D
    i also added more food for thought to the post. haha.
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876


    was discussing the flick breaking the waves....and let's face it, it IS a pretty damn interesting convo b/c really, how many truly DO live such a lifestyle, and/or pull it off, are happy? dunno. doesn't get much talk in normal convo, so figured it was perfect abnormal convo for the AET.

    phantom...i am curious, why is that scenario so *off* to you? wouldn't it just be another sort of sexual fantasy/fetish? sure...again...maybe not it for MOST, but none the less.....

    I never heard of that movie....sounds interesting

    Not sure if I could handle my wife going out to be with another guy...I think i would rather be alone or try to find someone who can be with me minus the sex...not an easy thing to do

    I guess I dont like the whole watching my wife with another guy thing because it is not a turn on for me at all ! I'm sure some people enjoy it like you said a "fantasy or fetish" but I would not want to see it

    Now my wife with another woman.....different story :p
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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    I never heard of that movie....sounds interesting

    Not sure if I could handle my wife going out to be with another guy...I think i would rather be alone or try to find someone who can be with me minus the sex...not an easy thing to do

    I guess I dont like the whole watching my wife with another guy thing because it is not a turn on for me at all ! I'm sure some people enjoy it like you said a "fantasy or fetish" but I would not want to see it

    Now my wife with another woman.....different story :p


    oh i hear ya...i don't think most would like it at all, let alone be turned on. but they are out there! haha.


    and see, men love the idea of a woman with a woman, but really......wouldn't you have the same concerns...she might fall in love, etc? why is that so different?


    btw - you don't have to watch, maybe she'd just come and tell you about it...as a form of foreplay? :p absolutely tho, i would guess an 'acquired taste' in regards to preferences...and probably not a wildly popular one at that. i was just curious why you zoomed on just that one scenario and said, nuhuh...where the rest you seemed to address more fully.
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  • cutback wrote:
    me?!?! no way!!....;) :p:D

    Well that was disappointing. ;)
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    cutback wrote:
    me?!?! no way!!....;) :p:D
    eventually that little bunny will stop just like us. ;)
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