Why do gay people think they can say whatever they want?

boxwine_in_hell

Turn the tables on the gay men. Just say "Next time will you please call me BEFORE you start sucking cock."

Get_Right

dunkman wrote:

... i grabbed his nuts and said "technically you dont need these..."

that is fookin hilarious!

RolandTD20Kdrummer

The same as Blondes can get away with saying ditzy things I suppose?

Flamboyant and off the cuff is pretty much gay-speak for guys anyways.

writersu

Heineken Helen wrote:

oh yeh, there's them people too... who like having friends from different minorities to make themselves look good... or maybe they really do like them?

well, then it would be a different story; if they actually liked them, I mean. That is their choice and then not my business........

and I know neither is the people who were just trying to look cool, but I think there is a point in life when we become too old to try to look cool, because (as for me), there is NO point in trying...............

writersu

soulsinging wrote:

im not sure what that second paragraph proves. but as to the first, isn't being able to call you close-minded bigots the same as you wanting to be able to call people faggots? the only difference is society has deemed one worse than the other and you're still living in the stone age and can't accept it.

It's fine to have a different---way different opinion than me, or others who think like me, but I personally do NOT call people faggots, not to them, not behind their backs..........nothing. I do not approve of their lifestyle but that IS the thing; it is THEIR lifestyle and it ends there with me not having it be mine if I so disagree..................and to that end, I can chose to not have people in my life that are gay. Right or wrong, that is as much my decision as is their way to live and maybe THEY chose not to be around people like ME. Just because I said that I don't want to be around them, doesn't mean I am superior to them at all. I maybe am more rare than the other people who may share my views on certain things, because I have always pointed out anytime here I have posted or anytime in my life where someone has asked me a question that I answered with a direct answer that came from my personal convictions, that I can say my truth, and then just agree to disagree without needing to be "right" or "wrong". Neither is true as in this is a black picture or this is a white poster........views are just that; views.......personal views. If I have to make someone else agree, then I must not be so secure in them to need that.

But the original question was asking why "gays" were so rude to say things that straight people would get reamed for and no one corrects them. I answered that as I did as everyone else did here as well.

My second paragraph has a lot to do with the subject because I said there is that possibilty that they are allowed that by people who just want them around to make themselves look more evolved.

soulsinging

writersu wrote:

It's fine to have a different---way different opinion than me, or others who think like me, but I personally do NOT call people faggots, not to them, not behind their backs..........nothing. I do not approve of their lifestyle but that IS the thing; it is THEIR lifestyle and it ends there with me not having it be mine if I so disagree..................and to that end, I can chose to not have people in my life that are gay. Right or wrong, that is as much my decision as is their way to live and maybe THEY chose not to be around people like ME. Just because I said that I don't want to be around them, doesn't mean I am superior to them at all. I maybe am more rare than the other people who may share my views on certain things, because I have always pointed out anytime here I have posted or anytime in my life where someone has asked me a question that I answered with a direct answer that came from my personal convictions, that I can say my truth, and then just agree to disagree without needing to be "right" or "wrong". Neither is true as in this is a black picture or this is a white poster........views are just that; views.......personal views. If I have to make someone else agree, then I must not be so secure in them to need that.

But the original question was asking why "gays" were so rude to say things that straight people would get reamed for and no one corrects them. I answered that as I did as everyone else did here as well.

My second paragraph has a lot to do with the subject because I said there is that possibilty that they are allowed that by people who just want them around to make themselves look more evolved.

or maybe they just like the people and enjoy spending time with them and don't feel compelled to shut a good friend out of their lives just becos they're gay? what, pray tell, would you do if your child told you he was gay? no longer associate with them? just curious.

soulsinging

Heineken Helen wrote:

Hmm... actually yeh, I suppose gay men have no reason to be afraid of women. Straight men would be more inclined to be polite cos at some stage, if they don't want to shag you, they're going to want to shag your friend gay men know they're never gonna be in that situation.

you are finally wising up!

writersu

soulsinging wrote:

or maybe they just like the people and enjoy spending time with them and don't feel compelled to shut a good friend out of their lives just becos they're gay? what, pray tell, would you do if your child told you he was gay? no longer associate with them? just curious.

And, in my fault of prejudice of arrogant people I guess I have a hard time weeding those people out from the others because it is hard for me to see if some of them are sincere. I am (or try to be and hope I am) polite but yet not phony and I do not trust people who treat everyone with that, "oh, my God! You are so awesome!" attitude. That said, I do talk to all kinds of people as if I know them, in a friendly manner, but to stroke someone's feathers just to make yourself part of the show and to hell with making them feel better, then that misses the point. Do you know the point I am trying to make? Do you know those kinds of people who do that, like shmooze others? That is what I mean. And thanks for reminding me that there are times I need to look deeper at people before I make assessments on their intentions regardless of their stature of wealth. Unfortuneately, I have not seen nor known too many people who were wealthy and kind.

As for your question of my kids, well that is really a hard one.

Right now, I can say, well, of course I would NOT approve, and I would let them know I didn't, and all that would follow with that conviction, like their "partner" not being included in family things, whatever. But that is coming from THIS place I stand, the one that is answering a hypothetical question. If that were my reality, I can't say what my thoughts would be because my children are in my soul too deeply to say they would be cut off, you know?

Just like my views on the war, which I know is not a popular one, my views will always change when they apply directly to me. Like in the latter case, I can say this war is needed. But change it up and put one of MY boys there, and I am sure that my stance would need to change in order to accomodate the emotional pull of it.

I have had enough go on in my life to know there are no absolutes that I can stand on forever, just for now. And I do always admit that.

soulsinging

writersu wrote:

And, in my fault of prejudice of arrogant people I guess I have a hard time weeding those people out from the others because it is hard for me to see if some of them are sincere. I am (or try to be and hope I am) polite but yet not phony and I do not trust people who treat everyone with that, "oh, my God! You are so awesome!" attitude. That said, I do talk to all kinds of people as if I know them, in a friendly manner, but to stroke someone's feathers just to make yourself part of the show and to hell with making them feel better, then that misses the point. Do you know the point I am trying to make? Do you know those kinds of people who do that, like shmooze others? That is what I mean. And thanks for reminding me that there are times I need to look deeper at people before I make assessments on their intentions regardless of their stature of wealth. Unfortuneately, I have not seen nor known too many people who were wealthy and kind.

As for your question of my kids, well that is really a hard one.

Right now, I can say, well, of course I would NOT approve, and I would let them know I didn't, and all that would follow with that conviction, like their "partner" not being included in family things, whatever. But that is coming from THIS place I stand, the one that is answering a hypothetical question. If that were my reality, I can't say what my thoughts would be because my children are in my soul too deeply to say they would be cut off, you know?

Just like my views on the war, which I know is not a popular one, my views will always change when they apply directly to me. Like in the latter case, I can say this war is needed. But change it up and put one of MY boys there, and I am sure that my stance would need to change in order to accomodate the emotional pull of it.

I have had enough go on in my life to know there are no absolutes that I can stand on forever, just for now. And I do always admit that.

i'm impressed by your candor.

i think you need a certain hardness or aggressiveness to get rich, so there may be something to what you say. and i do know the people you refer to, though i think their intentions are usually good and not consciously selfish.

elmer

Heineken Helen wrote:

Hmm... actually yeh, I suppose gay men have no reason to be afraid of women. Straight men would be more inclined to be polite cos at some stage, if they don't want to shag you, they're going to want to shag your friend gay men know they're never gonna be in that situation.

Helenoidium, you are quite delightful, but your views are terribly unsound.

Are all inclinations to be 'polite' just self-regarding?

westsidepie

yosi wrote:

Maybe because those people are homophobic and try and overcompensate for their homophobia by allowing gay people to get away with being insulting.

It may not be that the person who points that the comment is offensive, is homophobic. It could be they are afraid of being accused of being homophobic, and incurring a kind of reverse margalization. I lived in SF for many years, and saw this scene played out many times. Gay person makes offensive comment. Person the comment is directed at points out the comment is offensive. Gay person accuses the person who points out their own rude behavior of being a prude, homophobic, etc. Mind you, this social interaction is more general, as someone pointed out, than just being limited to the gay community. For example, when I was younger, I worked in an office where one of my co-workers thought it was funny to draw pictures on birthday cards of the birthday person having sex with animal, utensils, being gangbanged, etc. If anyone in the office pointed out that this was really inappropriate, the rest of the office would isolate that person.

Heineken Helen

elmer wrote:

Helenoidium, you are quite delightful, but your views are terribly unsound.

Are all inclinations to be 'polite' just self-regarding?

no, they're not... but I've been listening to the men on this board for FAR too long!

writersu

soulsinging wrote:

i'm impressed by your candor.

i think you need a certain hardness or aggressiveness to get rich, so there may be something to what you say. and i do know the people you refer to, though i think their intentions are usually good and not consciously selfish.

Thanks; I certainly take that as a complement. I hope I always have a conscious view of my own shortcomings as well as my strengths because I don't think a person can really add anything to life or the world if they live in a way that sees themself as either too important or too insignificant.

There are probably a lot of good people out there, like you say but unfortuneately, it's the assholes in the world that stick out.

Today I thought that while (believe it or not) while I was listening to Moody radio. I like to listen to this black pastor, Tony Evans because he is a straight shooter. Anyway, after there was a talk show (and I was cleaning) so I kept it on. Well, the guy was talking to some "hollywood" movie expert discussing "faith in Hollywood", and they brought up Russell Crowe's faith. Well, they started to tell the story of him wanting to get baptized, because of his son getting baptized and they then said, "well, I don't know whether or not he has made a 'profession of faith' or has a 'personal relationship with Jesus' but that is a start." And then they were talking about some people who say that being a kind, good person, could not in any way be if there were no God. Then I got mad and said, "what the hell, what about just because as human beings it is an innate trait to help each other out?" (I believe in God and I think that still.) I got so mad and I am sure I swore and
after I swore, I said, "it's not the non Christians that I fear, it's the Christians who make stupid statements like that".
So that said, I know there are all kinds of people from all different places who make the rest of the people look bad, in all areas, genders, gender preferences, (yes, I said that),income brackets, professions, and political arenas, etc. We have to look beyond those people in order to see the people who are similar externally but extremely different internally so that we don't persecute a whole group.

Thanks for reminding me to see beyond the immediate discussion to see that there are deeper levels that need to be thought of always.

DS1119

Unfortunately this seems to be the norm more and more. I don't get it. It seems when you are part of a minority, or at least view yourself as part of a minority, all sense of decency goes out the window.

pandora

hmmm. now that I think about it ...
we blondes are in the minority too explains a lot

Dissidentman

DS1119 wrote:

Unfortunately this seems to be the norm more and more. I don't get it. It seems when you are part of a minority, or at least view yourself as part of a minority, all sense of decency goes out the window.

Trolling on page 98 again?

DS1119

Dissidentman wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Unfortunately this seems to be the norm more and more. I don't get it. It seems when you are part of a minority, or at least view yourself as part of a minority, all sense of decency goes out the window.

Trolling on page 98 again?

NO!!!!! Legitimate topic.

dimitrispearljam

pandora wrote:

hmmm. now that I think about it ...
we blondes are in the minority too explains a lot

:thumbup:

81

the thing that pisses me off, is they think they can just go around grabbing boobs. fuck you jobu

Snakeduck

DS1119 wrote:

Unfortunately this seems to be the norm more and more. I don't get it. It seems when you are part of a minority, or at least view yourself as part of a minority, all sense of decency goes out the window.

Obviously this applies to the midget minority as well...