why do men have to be so feckin obvious?

TrixieCat

soulsinging wrote:

it's called a blowjob. be generous.

That had better be a top shelf drink....no well pour.

I think Jamie was just trying to say what he thought the equivalent argument was..and using a bit of exageration to make his point. He doesn't seem like someone that would keep score in that regard.

South of Seattle

rarghrargh-brownstar wrote:

hey now...us gals have to be nice now. I guess you could say that. Lots of beautiful shorties out there tho!!!

She's 100% correct!

rarghrargh-brownstar

South of Seattle wrote:

She's 100% correct!

hey you aint short......

maybe brown and handsome though....;)

rarghrargh-brownstar

Jeanie wrote:

oh ra-ra! :( I'm so confused and now I think I've upset you and I didn't mean to do that at all. Don't cry. Conor knows I'm just playing with him. I'm just kidding around.
I think all the people on the pit are lovely, and cute too, but it's not really relevant, because mostly I just like them as people which is what makes them beautiful. Don't pack up your ball and go home. I think I've just misunderstood you and you me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHjFxJVeCQs

Friends?

I just saw this. Yeah I love different opinions too!!! They make you grow and look at things differently. Sometimes just verify what you already know even more deeply... I got confused too....I just wrote something quickly and then felt really bad. well whatever....I am sure no one is traumatized (me included)....just dont like being vicious thats all. And personal attacks I try to stay away from. I guess I am paranoid about "hurting" people, and its more difficult here as communication isnt the best. But I am glad we got that all cleared up. Thanks to you.

Youre sweet!!! Thanks...that lil dude always makes things better!!! :cool:


Ok I am out. Have a good noight everyone.

catefrances

TrixieCat wrote:

That had better be a top shelf drink....no well pour.

I think Jamie was just trying to say what he thought the equivalent argument was..and using a bit of exageration to make his point. He doesn't seem like someone that would keep score in that regard.

well no offense trix, but id prefer to hear from jamie what is going on in jamie's head and what it was he meant by what he posted. and no one mentioned scorekeeping.

soulsinging

catefrances wrote:

conor, if you read my posts concerning the original topic you will see that i admitted to checking out guys' arses. i have not come down on guys for perving. if i had in fact called guys pigs for engaging in such activity, that would make me a hypocrite, now wouldnt it? no one ever got hurt from a good perv. sure some people jump on their high horse and feel violated and i just dont care. if i see something worth my attention then so be it. tis a bit difficult appreciating the art if one doesn't look.;) now if the perv is accompanied by lascivious leering and obscene comments then that is an entirely different kettle of fish.

how is that kettle of fish different from leading a guy on for free drinks. at least that scenario costs the dude money. what does a guy leering or making rude comments cost you?

catefrances

soulsinging wrote:

how is that kettle of fish different from leading a guy on for free drinks. at least that scenario costs the dude money. what does a guy leering or making rude comments cost you?

how is a man making lascivious leers and comments at a girl a different kettle of fish from just checking a girl out? i know youre not that stupid conor.

and it costs me nothing conor, but if he keeps it up or is particularly crude, insisting its harmless and whats up with you, you uptight bitch, are you a dyke?, when she objects, then it just may cost him a couple of teeth and/or his ability to procreate.

oh and if a guy is too clueless to be able to read the signals or misinterprets whats going on in front of him then what can you do?

soulsinging

catefrances wrote:

how is a man making lascivious leers and comments at a girl a different kettle of fish from just checking a girl out? i know youre not that stupid conor.

and it costs me nothing conor, but if he keeps it up or is particularly crude, insisting its harmless and whats up with you, you uptight bitch, are you a dyke?, when she objects, then it just may cost him a couple of teeth and/or his ability to procreate.

oh and if a guy is too clueless to be able to read the signals or misinterprets whats going on in front of him then what can you do?

how is a man leering at you so different from a girl calculatedly using a man to get a free drink? yes, if the guy is consistently harassing you after you ask him to stop, he's in the wrong; and if the other guy keeps buying the same girl drinks as she walks away, then he's an idiot.

but if a guy is leering at you and/or makes a crude comment as you pass, how is that so much more awful than a girl sizing up the bar, picking out the guy with the lowest self esteem who looks like the easiest target, and then taking him for a round of drinks before flouncing away back to her friends to laugh at the poor sucker? neither is particularly admirable and both humiliate and degrade the object. so why do you cheer on the girl and threaten to knock the teeth out of the guy?

catefrances

soulsinging wrote:

how is a man leering at you so different from a girl calculatedly using a man to get a free drink? yes, if the guy is consistently harassing you after you ask him to stop, he's in the wrong; and if the other guy keeps buying the same girl drinks as she walks away, then he's an idiot.

but if a guy is leering at you and/or makes a crude comment as you pass, how is that so much more awful than a girl sizing up the bar, picking out the guy with the lowest self esteem who looks like the easiest target, and then taking him for a round of drinks before flouncing away back to her friends to laugh at the poor sucker? neither is particularly admirable and both humiliate and degrade the object. so why do you cheer on the girl and threaten to knock the teeth out of the guy?

conor conor conor pretend you're a girl, okay? youre walking down the street and this guy looks you up and down, licks his lips suggestively and says something to you, you didnt even know was physically possible. his actions repulse you. and you continue walking but just that little bit faster to put as much ground between you and he as possible.
now imagine youre in a bar (you're the guy this time, think you can manage that ). you notice a girl, she catches your eye. she smiles. you smile back. she starts to walk across the room to you and you think yes, shes cute. score!!!. she may well be thinking the same thing about you. she asks you to buy her a drink. or conversely you offer to buy her one. either way, you make the decision to buy or not buy the drink. she thanks you and walks away. you stand there maybe feeling like a fool and a little bit used. however it was you who made the decision whether or not to buy the drink.


see the difference?

soulsinging

catefrances wrote:

conor conor conor pretend you're a girl, okay? youre walking down the street and this guy looks you up and down, licks his lips suggestively and says something to you, you didnt even know was physically possible. his actions repulse you. and you continue walking but just that little bit faster to put as much ground between you and he as possible.
now imagine youre in a bar (you're the guy this time, think you can manage that ). you notice a girl, she catches your eye. she smiles. you smile back. she starts to walk across the room to you and you think yes, shes cute. score!!!. she may well be thinking the same thing about you. she asks you to buy her a drink. or conversely you offer to buy her one. either way, you make the decision to buy or not buy the drink. she thanks you and walks away. you stand there maybe feeling like a fool and a little bit used. however it was you who made the decision whether or not to buy the drink.


see the difference?

yeah, i'm out a few dollars and you're out nothing but a few extra calories due to walking faster.

and you can stop the condescension with my name. you're not my mother, so i'd appreciate if you stopped acting like it.

catefrances

soulsinging wrote:

yeah, i'm out a few dollars and you're out nothing but a few extra calories due to walking faster.

and you can stop the condescension with my name. you're not my mother, so i'd appreciate if you stopped acting like it.

oh oh i feel so wounded conor. :rolleyes:

and btw, if i was being condescending, i would have called you baby or spoken presumingly for you.

brainofPJ

dunkman wrote:

if you were wearing a low cut top then its ok to stare... i mean why else do women wear such clothing... to get ogled.

this goes back to my Summer Cleavage thread... women wear tops and short skirts to show off parts of their body... so i look... quite simple really

oh definitely.

and if you look good Helen, then i'm taking a gander.

Blackeyedangel

Holy fuck you guys are like little pre-schoolers.

Can't you all admit that some guys are creepy weirdos, and some girls are skanky whore bags and be done with this thread.

catefrances

Blackeyedangel wrote:

Holy fuck you guys are like little pre-schoolers.

Can't you all admit that some guys are creepy weirdos, and some girls are skanky whore bags and be done with this thread.

yes. i can admit that actually.

Blackeyedangel

catefrances wrote:

yes. i can admit that actually.

yay. party time!

jamie uk

catefrances wrote:

so you buy them a drink because why exactly jamie...?

I was speaking metaphorically,..in reality I'm far to mean to buy any woman a drink.

catefrances

Blackeyedangel wrote:

yay. party time!

im not a party girl.

Heineken Helen

soulsinging wrote:

and just to prove that i'm not a total woman-hating misogynist, i'll say that this makes perfect sense to me. i don't blame you. i'd hate being a woman and having to deal with that. and i'd be scared shitless of rowdy, aggressive men in groups while i was alone.

thank you soulsinging, I'm glad someone understood what I was trying to say. Just that sometimes it can be intimidating and sinister. I'm sure it's not meant to be that way... but that's how it can be.

Heineken Helen

bostonlou wrote:

you probably had toilet paper hanging out of your skirt

SKIRT? Ya think I wear a skirt to work? On a building site? hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Heineken Helen

MattCameronKicksButt wrote:

You're very bitter.

I will ask you one question. When a woman says she likes to have a lot of sex, do you think she's a slag? (Maybe not you personally but how many men do you know that would think that)? It's okay for a man to say it.

I still don't think all women are respected equally.

I understand what you mean though.

(Poor Helen,, this was supposed to be a light hearted thread).

it's ok... it had already turned by the time I left work Friday... so I knew what to expect this morning.