Fuckin cops yo

Phantom Pain

Trailer wrote:

Dude I like cops about as much as you do... but when I've been pulled over I turn into the most polite, charming motherfucker you can imagine. You definitely should have had your car and radio off and been waiting for him to approach before you did anything. ESPECIALLY with highway patrolmen in a different state!

Exactly

"Yes sir" "No sir"

"Do you want a donut ?"

1STmammal2wearPants

you could have done things a bit differently, but the guy was a dickhead no doubt. people that say you gotta respect the police, get a fucking life, there's plenty of em that abuse their powers just like priests do.....no one is exempt unless they're God. Get a life! The kid did fuck up, but to bow down to a cop just because he's a cop, he could be a bad seed. Respect the law, but the law isn't above the law.

Phantom Pain

1STmammal2wearPants wrote:

you could have done things a bit differently, but the guy was a dickhead no doubt. people that say you gotta respect the police, get a fucking life, there's plenty of em that abuse their powers just like priests do.....no one is exempt unless they're God. Get a life! The kid did fuck up, but to bow down to a cop just because he's a cop, he could be a bad seed. Respect the law, but the law isn't above the law.

All cops can be dicks if you give them reason to

I don't bow down..but have respect fom the beginning you'll be in better shape

norm

Phantom Pain wrote:

All cops can be dicks if you give them reason to

I don't bow down..but have respect fom the beginning you'll be in better shape

kill 'em with kindness



a dickhead cop WANTS you to be petulant...it gives him a reason to be a dickhead

Motown322

1STmammal2wearPants wrote:

you could have done things a bit differently, but the guy was a dickhead no doubt. people that say you gotta respect the police, get a fucking life, there's plenty of em that abuse their powers just like priests do.....no one is exempt unless they're God. Get a life! The kid did fuck up, but to bow down to a cop just because he's a cop, he could be a bad seed. Respect the law, but the law isn't above the law.

He could've done things a lot differently... and my guess is that's why he got dealt the hand he did by this particular cop. There wasn't ANY respect for the officer as he approached the car. Apparently listening to the Giants get their asses handed to them was more important to him than dealing with the matter at hand. At that point, the officer has been at the window about 10 seconds and already had his mind made up. And sure, any random cop that stops you "could" be a bad seed... but that's irrelevant. Why put him on the defensive with dumb shit right off the bat? A little courtesy and respect goes a long way.

I don't think that the cop "abused" his power here. This guy didn't signal, but when you're doing 12 over it's a fantastic reason to get popped. Wrong moves #1 and #2. Then he freely acknowledges that he's got an inoperative headlight... wrong move #3. THEN he's got the radio blasting... wrong move #4. And we won't even get into the idiotic move of getting out of the car and approaching the cruiser. So right here you've got someone with a piss-poor attitude with 4 potential violations that can't even be bothered to stop listening to the ball game. If this kid plays the stop by the book, I'd be willing to bet he gets off with an equipment or moving violation... fine and no points.

He made his own bed on this one, IMO.

Poncier

chadwick wrote:

this sucks.
that cop is a prick.
he cant search your car like that.
not to my notion anyway.
what gave him probable cause?

He can search the car for the headlight being out if he wants. Once there is any reason to be pulled over (there were 3 in this case), a search can be executed.

jasonw

I'm not saying that this is the case here, but now that i'm a little more grown up i see how immature people are who just blindly hate police, and sadly a lot of adults think this way.

g under p

Say what's the cop/statetrooper's name so I'll be cool the next time I travel through Virginia?

Peace

Motown322

Poncier wrote:

He can search the car for the headlight being out if he wants. Once there is any reason to be pulled over (there were 3 in this case), a search can be executed.

And once the guy made the brilliant decision to get out of the car and approach the cop, there was no way it wasn't going to get searched.

Put yourself in the cop's shoes: You just stopped some guy that was throwing attitude (maybe not verbally but DEFINITELY through his actions) and handed him 4 tickets. He then gets out of his car and approaches you. You HAVE to think worst-case scenario at that point. The second you don't treat every situation worst-case is the second that you might get shot. He was absolutely justified in cuffing this kid and searching the car.

Phantom Pain

Motown322 wrote:

And once the guy made the brilliant decision to get out of the car and approach the cop, there was no way it wasn't going to get searched.

Put yourself in the cop's shoes: You just stopped some guy that was throwing attitude (maybe not verbally but DEFINITELY through his actions) and handed him 4 tickets. He then gets out of his car and approaches you. You HAVE to think worst-case scenario at that point. The second you don't treat every situation worst-case is the second that you might get shot. He was absolutely justified in cuffing this kid and searching the car.

Once you approach the cop all bets are off...you never approach the cop

I wouldn't be surprised if the cop doesn't pull his gun out and tell you to get down

Anything can happen

g under p

cutback wrote:

dude grow the fuck up

when you're pulled over, put the car in park, turn off the egnition INCLUDING THE RADIO :rolleyes: and keep both hands on the wheen until the cop approaches

and don't be an idiot and get out of the car....you were asking for whatever he gace you at that point

I agree here and if this is at night turn on your inside lights. The easier you make things for the stop the easier he or she may go with tickets and such. I got out of a $246 TICKET for speeding (56-45 double for construction zone) in Palm Beach FL earlier this year by doing all those things and the fact that the officer realized I wasn't or hadn't been drinking.

He let me go, I couldn't believe it.

Peace

PureandEasy

pjhawks wrote:

what he said - the lack of respect for cops is disgraceful - especially in the Philly area. time for the cops to start getting tougher on punks.

exactly. Maybe that's where my anger comes from. Seeing cop after cop funeral kind of jades a law abiding citizen just a bit. The lack of respect for cops makes me sick.

oh and by the way, it's what SHE said

mickeyrat

Phantom Pain wrote:

Exactly

"Yes sir" "No sir"

"Do you want a donut ?"

Maybe not the donut part. but that was funny

HailHailVitalogy

Motown322 wrote:

Exactly. Cut the "everyone is out to get me" shit... you made this whole stop a lot harder on yourself by:

-- Not turning the car off (especially the radio) when you pulled over
-- Taking off your seatbelt and rooting around for your registration before the cop got to the door

I'm not saying I don't speed... I just don't whine like a little bitch when I get a ticket for it. And unless you're on the expressway, you know damn well the speed limit isn't 67mph anyway. Playing the "I'm not from around here" card isn't going to get you anywhere on that, so you can shit-can that one from your deck from here on out. I'll be the first to admit that there are some bad cops out there... I'm not sure that this was one of them. Seems to me that you gave him a lot of ammo to work with that you could've avoided.

You already went through the hassle of a reckless driving ticket and a suspension... my advice? Lose the attitude, slow down, and play the game. You may not think that a police officer "deserves" your respect, but a little goes a long way. You just got 4 examples of what showing none will get you.

PLUS, why did you sign the ticket if he wrote down the wrong speed? You're going to have a hell of a time contesting that one if you signed off on it. And please don't tell me "I didn't read it until after I signed it", because it just proves my point.

Well guy, if YOU didn't know ...all over Virginia highways can be either 55 or 65, and change within a half mile of each other, which happens exactly in that area.

The radio was just on, there was minimum volume if there was any at all. When a cop pulls you over, you know the registration is the thing they want so why not have it handy? The only way I can reach across the car is if my seatbelt is off.

And I'm not fuckin playing the "everyones trying to get me game"...I don't believe in that...I'm just stating the fact that I hate cops who abuse their power. You seem to forget that he wrote 77 instead of 67, which is a huge difference in Virginia, which you wouldn't understand cause your in Detroit. I didn't notice the MPH change until I handed it back to him and looked over the tickets. AND I did show respect, I didn't show respect when I saw the wrong MPH down and he completely ignored it. So maybe you should read the WHOLE fuckin story before you start bashing me.

I don't have an attitude in everyday life...I have an attitude when I get fucked with the wrong way. Ask many people even on this board who I have known for years now.

MrBrian

In Florida a state trooper pulled me over for speeding. 55 in a 45.

Did I deserve a ticket? Yeah, maybe I was over the limit, but the road was clear, it was late at night, I was not running in and out of lanes, I was not running red lights. So I asked him, with respect, if he had to write me up. He was a bit of a power hungry cop, he tells me "no matter what, you are getting a ticket" ,I spoke to him with respect, he spoke down to me. He said he would throw me in jail blah blah blah. I guess it's a crime to ask questions?

anyway, this trooper gave me a lecture about how teens die from speeding and so on. I told him, firstly i'm not a teen. He got upset about that, threw the ticket at me and walked back to him car.

I got out of my ride, said "excuse me officer" and gave him a list of stats on the amount of murders taking place and rapes. I told him that he needed to concentrate on dealing with those dangers. He kinda puffed and said "follow the rules of the road" (or something like that, this was a few years ago now)

I say fine, get back into my car and watch the cop pull away into the middle of an intersection, not turn signals. So I start my car, chase him down (not fast) flash him, pull him over and tell him "Excuse me officer, you made a left through that intersection, no signals, now how do I write you a ticket?"

He was pretty shocked, embarrassed and said in a soft voice "ah ah, report me" and he drove off very slowly.
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Now I've come across some very nice police officers, I've also met some very bad ones. I'm good to the good ones, but rip into the bad ones.

Just because they have a gun and a badge, does not give them the right to treat you badly, it does not give them the right to throw you around, it does not give them the right to speak to you anyway they want.

Phantom Pain

mickeyrat wrote:

Maybe not the donut part. but that was funny

Cop watches as a guy staggers out of a bar and heads to his car to drive drunk...

Cop : "You've been drinking you and shouldn't drive"

Drunk Guy : "How you know Im drunk?"

Cop: "Your eyes are blood shot and glassy"

Drunk: "Well you must have a too many donuts...your eyes are glazed"

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

HailHailVitalogy

Motown322 wrote:

And once the guy made the brilliant decision to get out of the car and approach the cop, there was no way it wasn't going to get searched.

Put yourself in the cop's shoes: You just stopped some guy that was throwing attitude (maybe not verbally but DEFINITELY through his actions) and handed him 4 tickets. He then gets out of his car and approaches you. You HAVE to think worst-case scenario at that point. The second you don't treat every situation worst-case is the second that you might get shot. He was absolutely justified in cuffing this kid and searching the car.

I agree with you on that, I knew what I was doing. But it got me so angry that I'm getting fucked again because of a corrupt cop. Yeah the first time I got fucked I was doing 81, which in NY is just a speeding ticket not reckless driving which in the state of VA is on the same level as a DUI/DWI...maybe everyone should take that in consideration. Last time it cost me 3500, and wiped out my savings. This time around I don't have any more than $300. So that is where the anger comes in...I KNEW i was setting myself up once I stepped out but just understand how much last time this fucked me up. Plus now I have a loan to pay off for school, and a family that got fucked with the stock market.

Let me also AGAIN state, that I was polite until I read 77 instead of 67...the radio wasnt BLASTING it was at a minimal volume that I didn't even notice. When I got pulled over i turned it all the way left thinking it was off and I was just thinking about where my registration was.

Thankyou for the people who actually read my posts and understand what the situation was.


EDIT: my inside lights were on...it was my dad's car so I didn't know the headlight was out until he told me when I left his house

MrBrian

Poncier wrote:

He can search the car for the headlight being out if he wants. Once there is any reason to be pulled over (there were 3 in this case), a search can be executed.

Are you an idiot? Does it make sense to you that a cop has the right to search your car if your headlight is broken?
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also, obviously you should turn off your radio and car when pulled over, and don't move around too much. Be nice, be cool.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Signal, and gently pull the car over....stop, turn off the engine, and put on the 4 ways, and turn off the radio. Get out your information, and have it ready if you can without taking off the seatbelt, otherwise leave your seatbelt on, roll down your window before he gets there, and put your hands on the steering wheel where they are visible. This is the routine, and it saves a lot of that grey areas where the cop gets annoyed before even speaking with you.

Slip Kid

PureandEasy wrote:

oh and learn how to fucking drive.

I concur

sounds like u are reckless if you been getting into all this trouble within a year